I'd be pretty shocked if after trading likely a 3rd rounder for a RB, they traded major assets for another. I think they'll aim a lot lower than Gordon.They very well may trade him......to Houston.
Would not shock me at all.
yes, Bell was a FA who was franchised... it didn't matter if he played or not because he would be an FA the following yr. Gordon has to be available the min 6 games or else hes not a FA. I don't see the Chargers increasing the offer and at this point its looking like a week 11 FF Return will be the case.iamkoza said:so bell had a loophole because he was francished right? gordon wasnt franchised. hadnt considered this until now
I do not believe the bolded is correct. It has been posted in this thread that he might need to report for as little as a single game, might need to report before week 9, or might need to report before week 13. There is no scenario I am aware of that forces him to report for a minimum of 6 games. That number is usually associated with players who need to accrue another season towards free agency. Gordon does not need to do that.yes, Bell was a FA who was franchised... it didn't matter if he played or not because he would be an FA the following yr. Gordon has to be available the min 6 games or else hes not a FA. I don't see the Chargers increasing the offer and at this point its looking like a week 11 FF Return will be the case.
I keep wondering about this myself. Thinking logically (tough to do here), he'd get 1/16th of his salary this year, roughly $350k, if he only played one game, and would be giving up about 5.25m. Does he really think he'll get 5.25m more guaranteed next year by doing this?I do not believe the bolded is correct. It has been posted in this thread that he might need to report for as little as a single game, might need to report before week 9, or might need to report before week 13. There is no scenario I am aware of that forces him to report for a minimum of 6 games. That number is usually associated with players who need to accrue another season towards free agency. Gordon does not need to do that.
He has to report to the team at some point to avoid his contract tolling and carrying over to next year. All of those links give rationales for why he might need to report for just 1 game, might need to report with 8 games remaining, or might need to report at least 30 days prior to the end of the regular season, which would be prior to week 13. Given that there is seemingly ambiguity, it seems likely that he and his agent will be conservative, and the most conservative of these is to hold out for no more than 8 games.I keep wondering about this myself. Thinking logically (tough to do here), he'd get 1/16th of his salary this year, roughly $350k, if he only played one game, and would be giving up about 5.25m. Does he really think he'll get 5.25m more guaranteed next year by doing this?
So what does he "need to do" to be an UFA next year, if that's his goal?
im surprised how loosely this beat reporter is reporting this. considering how 75% of his twitter followers are only looking to him for fantasy news on the chargers. this appears to be a total hunch to which he replied in his tweet thread that the $330k game checks are his reason for thnking he'll reportIn his 53-man roster projection Wednesday, ESPN's Eric Williams wrote to "expect" Melvin Gordon to end his holdout in time for Week 1.
Williams had nothing more to add to it than that, so it remains a bit mysterious. However, this is the real first sign of hope we've seen regarding Gordon possibly reporting to the team. He just doesn't seem to have much leverage here. It doesn't sound like the Chargers haven't budged much with their offer. Gordon might just be forced to play out the final year of his deal and look for a big-money contract elsewhere next offseason. This is different than the Le'Veon Bell situation because Bell wasn't technically even under contract during his holdout. Gordon has routinely been going around the fourth round in fantasy drafts of late.
SOURCE: ESPN.com
Aug 28, 2019, 9:56 AM ET
yeah he might be right, but that seems a little flimsy.im surprised how loosely this beat reporter is reporting this. considering how 75% of his twitter followers are only looking to him for fantasy news on the chargers. this appears to be a total hunch to which he replied in his tweet thread that the $330k game checks are his reason for thnking he'll report
He is a Chargers ESPN beat writer so he could have inside information but can't divulge his source. At least I would hope that is the case.im surprised how loosely this beat reporter is reporting this. considering how 75% of his twitter followers are only looking to him for fantasy news on the chargers. this appears to be a total hunch to which he replied in his tweet thread that the $330k game checks are his reason for thnking he'll report
prob looking to unload him from his fantasy team.In his 53-man roster projection Wednesday, ESPN's Eric Williams wrote to "expect" Melvin Gordon to end his holdout in time for Week 1.
Williams had nothing more to add to it than that, so it remains a bit mysterious. However, this is the real first sign of hope we've seen regarding Gordon possibly reporting to the team. He just doesn't seem to have much leverage here. It doesn't sound like the Chargers haven't budged much with their offer. Gordon might just be forced to play out the final year of his deal and look for a big-money contract elsewhere next offseason. This is different than the Le'Veon Bell situation because Bell wasn't technically even under contract during his holdout. Gordon has routinely been going around the fourth round in fantasy drafts of late.
SOURCE: ESPN.com
Aug 28, 2019, 9:56 AM ET
I hear ya man... try owning Gordon AND Zeke... yikes.As a dynasty owner, I like week 8 much more than before week 13.
Updating a previous item, ESPN's Eric Williams said it's "just a hunch" that he expects Melvin Gordon to end his holdout in time for Week 1.
In his latest 53-man roster projection for the Chargers, Williams wrote that he "expects" Gordon to end his holdout in time for the season opener. Williams left it at that and failed to expand on the statement. When pressed on Twitter, Williams stated it was "just a hunch" based on the fact Gordon would be forfeiting hundreds of thousands of dollars in game checks if he starts missing real action. It's been quiet on the Gordon front. Talks don't seem to be any closer, however.
SOURCE: Eric Williams on Twitter
Aug 28, 2019, 4:09 PM ET
Sought after, yes. At the price he wants, no.This one is truly up in the air. He will or won't. Just seems to me that some other team will pay him next year. Full year or not. Other options include Carlos Hyde who is hanging on by a tenuous thread in KC. Gordon will be a sought out resource at season's end. Like it or not.
yeah right. we shall see.Sought after, yes. At the price he wants, no.
Probably the worst bit of reporting I've ever seen. "yeah idk I think he shows" "PRINT IT JOHNNY!"In his 53-man roster projection Wednesday, ESPN's Eric Williams wrote to "expect" Melvin Gordon to end his holdout in time for Week 1.
Williams had nothing more to add to it than that, so it remains a bit mysterious. However, this is the real first sign of hope we've seen regarding Gordon possibly reporting to the team. He just doesn't seem to have much leverage here. It doesn't sound like the Chargers haven't budged much with their offer. Gordon might just be forced to play out the final year of his deal and look for a big-money contract elsewhere next offseason. This is different than the Le'Veon Bell situation because Bell wasn't technically even under contract during his holdout. Gordon has routinely been going around the fourth round in fantasy drafts of late.
SOURCE: ESPN.com
Aug 28, 2019, 9:56 AM ET
He's been covering the Chargers for ESPN since 2013. His hunch is probably a bit more valuable that most due to his access.A hunch......ok.
Great journalism there.
Would have been fine if he had just indicated it was a hunch in the original tweet.He came out after with a follow up tweet saying "it's just a hunch". Seems like he shouldn't have tweeted it all but that's the media environment we live in.
The last 5 big RB contracts were for Gurley, Freeman, Johnson, McKinnon, and Bell. The first four of those look like bad deals for the teams, and Bell's own head coach questioned giving him his contract this offseason. Looking at that recent track record, any team that pays a RB money comparable to those guys is likely going to regret it.Tell Gurley. He with all the question marks and all but vanishing when needed most. The Rams MAY have overpaid. Do we know? No. Will we soon know yes. They still paid it. and he has more question marks than Gordon...At this moment. Like I said we'll see. Bell cashed in as well and many will want to see how his running style works in NY/Jersey. They paid him handsomely to find out though. Question marks do not mean certainty. There lies the Risk. Gordon will be above the risk line for some teams I'd think.
If the chargers hadn't run him in the ground his numbers would have looked pretty pedestrian and the case that he somehow deserves Gurley/Bell/DJ money would look even more silly than it does now. Running him into the ground is the only reason the fantasy community thinks that he is much more talented than he really is.Chargers will run him into the ground if/when he shows up around week 10.
I'm not saying he is Gurly just that some team will overpay.If the chargers hadn't run him in the ground his numbers would have looked pretty pedestrian and the case that he somehow deserves Gurley/Bell/DJ money would look even more silly than it does now. Running him into the ground is the only reason the fantasy community thinks that he is much more talented than he really is.
If he's putting out his projections for the final roster - there's going to be some speculation involved.Tool said:He came out after with a follow up tweet saying "it's just a hunch". Seems like he shouldn't have tweeted it all but that's the media environment we live in.
Worth it though! I would have done the same.Took him at 4.1 last night. Took Julio, Tyreek, and Henry 1,2,3. Grabbed Ekeler probably way too early at 6.1.
Way I look at it is would you trade your 4th/6th for late 1st...Took him at 4.1 last night. Took Julio, Tyreek, and Henry 1,2,3. Grabbed Ekeler probably way too early at 6.1.
Well, more like for a chance at a 1st.Way I look at it is would you trade your 4th/6th for late 1st...
... think Leveon got his center to come over with him. Could be wrong. But I think there’s going to be more continuity there than we expect.Tell Gurley. He with all the question marks and all but vanishing when needed most. The Rams MAY have overpaid. Do we know? No. Will we soon know yes. They still paid it. and he has more question marks than Gordon...At this moment. Like I said we'll see. Bell cashed in as well and many will want to see how his running style works in NY/Jersey. They paid him handsomely to find out though. Question marks do not mean certainty. There lies the Risk. Gordon will be above the risk line for some teams I'd think.
You are wrong.... think Leveon got his center to come over with him. Could be wrong.
Cool. Thanks for the insight.You are wrong.
Well he didn’t take the Pitt Center with him. Jets just signed Khalil out of retirement recently.Cool. Thanks for the insight.
I swear there was some connection in that offense In regards to Bell. Coaching staff? Someone on the offensive line?
Im Googling around ... but I was sure there was SOMETHING in the offense that was a plus for Bell’s outlook.
Please feel free to type 3 words again if I’m wrong.
Kalil ... good center. Thought here was something else.Well he didn’t take the Pitt Center with him. Jets just signed Khalil out of retirement recently.
I don’t know of any connection.
Tom Telesco on Melvin Gordon holdout: "I'm disappointed it has lasted this long. I pride myself in having solutions to problems, and I haven't solved this one yet. We know what he means to our team, and even bigger than that what he means to our organization But the other side is we have a big game coming up this week with the Colts, and I'm confident in the players that we have on the field right now will play well
Pretty vanilla. Not upset at anyone really, maybe other than himself. Not nearly the drama we're seeing with Zeke. I've gotten the feeling that Gordon was just going to hold out as long as he could to get the biggest deal he could from the team, but that he'd end up reporting. Honestly, if he was offered a Freeman type deal, he should take it. Should have taken it weeks ago.
Sounds like a guy that doesn't even realize the biggest problem on the team is at LT. Rivers reads at the LOS have covered up the telesco incompetence at building even an average OL for years but the current group is the worst in a very long time. If(when) the chargers disappoint this season the mouth breathers and talking heads will say it is because of Gordon but the folks with half a brain will realize that the OL is pure trash.
I thought they had given him that permission a few days ago? Am I wrong about that?https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1167889647629787137
Gordon given permission to seek a trade.
Paging Houston to the red phone, perfect match for a 3rd round pick and Johnsonhttps://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1167889647629787137
Gordon given permission to seek a trade.
Nope, today is the first news about a tradeI thought they had given him that permission a few days ago? Am I wrong about that?
Tampa Bay then please. Thx in advance.Nope, today is the first news about a trade
I don't have an exact figure to quote, but it seems once permission to seek a trade is given, a trade usually follows like 90% of the time.https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1167889647629787137
Gordon given permission to seek a trade.
Giving ARod Flash seems unfair. That could be a very good fitI don't have an exact figure to quote, but it seems once permission to seek a trade is given, a trade usually follows like 90% of the time.
Tampa Bay makes the most sense, they'd need to structure a Gordon deal so that he'd almost make less money this year, but he'd likely be ok with that, if the long term money was top notch.
Who else makes sense?
Houston(Hyde isn't stopping interest)
Green Bay maybe(I like Jones, but they have the money, and Gordon is a local)
Jacksonville(no secret Fournette is on thin ice, though reports have been positive of late)
Miami(have money, don't seem to have a plan)
From a fantasy perspective, that would suck to have already drafted Aaron Jones!Giving ARod Flash seems unfair. That could be a very good fit