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Duke Johnson RB Dolphins (3 Viewers)
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Todem
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cubbie5150
Footballguy
Chargers defense have given up the 2nd most (depending on scoring) RB fantasy production so far. Give the kid some touches this week, and I bet he puts up RB2'ish numbers at worst.
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Gr00vus
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I don't think he is. He's pretty small. I wouldn't expect much goal line work for him even if he becomes the lead back.
Gr00vus
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Darryl Talley
Footballguy
This is the week or dropped.
Why can't he get Riddick or Dunbar type receptions?
Why can't he get Riddick or Dunbar type receptions?
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Todem
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ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
I think he takes it today. They are going to get smoked and he will play a lot.
hankey2mlh
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This Browns blog thinks so:
"After a pretty good showing in Week 2, Isaiah Crowell missed some opportunities in Week 3 and didn't seem to finish runs as well. His inability to convert at the goal line was a momentum-killer in the first half last week, and if Robert Turbin is able to go against the Ravens next week, don't be surprised to see him get opportunities right away. The Chargers are vulnerable against the run, but I think this could be the week that Duke Johnson is given the reigns as the team's lead back to see how he can perform."
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Yeah, that would have made a great day into an epic day (in PPR), but still pleased with the results.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Not getting the TD was ok for those trying to acquire him.
Any concerns moving forward? - Was this a one week situation with the Browns falling behind and vs SD at that? - Will Turbin start getting time?
Any concerns moving forward? - Was this a one week situation with the Browns falling behind and vs SD at that? - Will Turbin start getting time?
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Darryl Talley
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I can see the 8/31 being the norm, but he looks explosive as a receiver. How will teams stop that?
Lol @ that LB huffing and puffing on that TD reception.
Dion Lewis Lite.
Lol @ that LB huffing and puffing on that TD reception.
Dion Lewis Lite.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Most targets among RBs the last 2 weeks.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
God bless this post. It was basically the last thing I looked at before setting my lineup after agonizing between Duke and Rawls, so I decided to go with Duke. Would have lost one of my matchups and sweated the other one down to the wire last night with a 1-point win.
Congrats on your thought leadership.
Insein
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
I spent 25 ####### $ on Rawls so I had an RB2 this week meanwhile I had this guy on my bench all along. Im not bitter at all. But at least I won anyway.
Always win or lose based on your own gut calls. Bloom and every other "expert" can only speculate as to what any player will do on any given week.
Listen to their collective analysis but always form your own judgements and opinions based on your gut instinct and analysis. That way, when you make the wrong choice, or the right choice, you can only attribute it to you.
It's a really crappy feeling to bench a player based on someone else's thought process only to watch that player explode on your bench.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It was a great post but it also might mean his big day was just specific to playing San Diego.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Trying to sell high in .5 ppr redraft. I agree, his week 4 outburst was a match-up-specific thing. I also figure when (probably not if, I guess) Manziel takes over, the pass targets will dry up. Not sure I'll be able to get anything done, but I'm trying.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
That was much of my thinking (I'm a Charger homer). But regardless, you had to like what you saw from him if you're an owner. That goal line opportunity really surprised me. I doubt he gets many more of those - I figure Crowell or Turbin would get most of those chances. Seemed like they were going with the hot hand/and or trying to keep the Chargers from subbing in a goal line defensive package there.
Anyway, I'm sure there will be plenty of other opportunities to start this guy in PPR leagues this season. And if Crowell misses time, Johnson could be a solid RB 2.
Shutout
Footballguy
Fantasysports1
Footballguy
Think he should be a flex option in PPR at the least going forward. Dave Richard said the way they are using him he is going to get like 6-7 receptions a game. Any RB that gets that many receptions will have value. Duke has good upside if they use him enough in the run game because he will pile up yards through the air as well.
We Tigers
Footballguy
Possibly, but that's still pretty great given this year's RBs. Even that Woodhead-type usage makes him a solid play, especially as rosters get thin during bye weeks.
Riversco
Footballguy
Its strange that there seems to be more hype for Duke than Melvin Gordon.
1. Gordon is already the lead back. Duke isn't.
2. Gordon doesn't have the injury history. Duke gets hurt a lot.
3. Gordon catches a lot of balls, so you aren't losing anything there.
If you can, try to trade Duke for Gordon. Gordon's value seems pretty low right now.
1. Gordon is already the lead back. Duke isn't.
2. Gordon doesn't have the injury history. Duke gets hurt a lot.
3. Gordon catches a lot of balls, so you aren't losing anything there.
If you can, try to trade Duke for Gordon. Gordon's value seems pretty low right now.
shadyridr
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shadyridr
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Banger
Footballguy
I agree right now but I think Duke has a more realistic path to be more of a consistent workhorse than Woodhead does. Duke's snapcount has pretty consistently increased...31, 26, 40, 43 to a high of 54 (61% to Crowell's 34)...On the flipside in Woodhead's situation you have a rookie (Gordon) that like Duke is getting more comfortable and taking a bigger lionshare of the snapcount. Woodhead and Gordon's snapcount has been 42/36, 32/29, 34/28, 36/30 and this week 29/46. So it was basically a pretty even split until this week where Gordon got 61% of the snaps.
The staff seems to like Duke better than Crow and Turbin is an X factor at this point. I like the trend and the usage of Duke. Duke will hopefully never hit my lineup as he'd be my 4/5 RB but I think he's got a higher potential upside if things break right.
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timbrah_ho
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Woodhead owner here and thinking about dealing him even though he's traditionally been money in PPR. Gordon seems to be coming on more and was actually targeted more than Woodhead against PIT last Monday.
I think Duke's arrow is trending up whereas Woodhead is staying the same or even pointing slightly down with Gordon coming on. That said Duke's not "the man" yet and it might not happen until next year with Crow playing well and Turbin coming on...so I think he's going to have a lot of up and down games.
I think Duke's arrow is trending up whereas Woodhead is staying the same or even pointing slightly down with Gordon coming on. That said Duke's not "the man" yet and it might not happen until next year with Crow playing well and Turbin coming on...so I think he's going to have a lot of up and down games.
Banger
Footballguy
I just offered Woodhead for Duke and got turned down...we have a dynasty aspect and rookies have a bit more value.
I drafted both in both my leagues. Now I just have Duke left in one league, not because I don't like Woodhead. That's just how my trades have turned out. Surprisingly, people actually valued Woodhead as much as I did. I do like them both in PPR, and I see Duke as a Woodhead-lite. However, I will say that I think Duke has the higher upside this year with the bigger chance to end up the lead back.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I don't like the matchup this week but Duke is picking up steam. Fun player to watch, he's effective on the field, which Cleveland needs.
They do (IMO), but not in the traditional sense. Looking at the receptions/receiving yards/rec TDs a team has allowed to opposing RBs can be helpful when making lineup decisions with regards to receiving backs.
Riversco
Footballguy
Stick with Duke and you'll probably wind up cutting him once he gets injured.shadyridr said:
Gordon is getting better every week.
You could sell high on Duke / buy low on Gordon this week, and at some point probably will be able to sell high on Gordon and get another upgrade if you really dislike Gordon that much, because at some point Gordon is going to have a huge day.
kutta
Footballguy
Over the last three weeks he's the number 8 RB in my PPR league, and he's getting more involved each week. I would say there's pretty decent value in redraft leagues.
yeah, Johnson has value in PPR leagues.
