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Sleeper Alert: Rob Kelley - RB - WAS (2 Viewers)
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hamsterdam
Footballguy
I think the CS likes Thompson in his role. I do think it will expand a little in the event MJ goes down but I don't think they'll be running him 15-20 times a game.
I think Kelley would be the main beneficiary in regards to a role expansion.
I think Kelley would be the main beneficiary in regards to a role expansion.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'm picking up Kelley but here's the breakdown..
First set of data is a snap percentage, second utilization and third RZ utilization.
Thompson is great but his body won't hold up if he's being utilized 19 times a game.
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Target
Rush
Total
Jones
33%
58%
46%
66%
56%
41%
30%
8
14
19
24
16
16
10
0
19
19
Kelley
0%
0%
0%
0%
0%
12%
14%
0
0
0
0
0
5
5
1
4
5
Thom
67%
42%
48%
32%
32%
49%
59%
6
4
8
7
4
12
19
2
3
5
First set of data is a snap percentage, second utilization and third RZ utilization.
Thompson is great but his body won't hold up if he's being utilized 19 times a game.
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Target
Rush
Total
Jones
33%
58%
46%
66%
56%
41%
30%
8
14
19
24
16
16
10
0
19
19
Kelley
0%
0%
0%
0%
0%
12%
14%
0
0
0
0
0
5
5
1
4
5
Thom
67%
42%
48%
32%
32%
49%
59%
6
4
8
7
4
12
19
2
3
5
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In today's NFL it seems like it's more a matter of who's getting it done rather than "who's too small to hold up". It sure seems like the Redskins aren't concerned with his workload so long as he's carrying the mail for them. And while 19 touches seems like a lot, he only carried the ball 12 times - and to great effect. I also don't think they're going to smash him up the middle 12 times. More likely he runs around the outside (round the outside, round the outside for any of you Slim Shady fans)
I think Kelley will get more than the 5 touches a game he's received the last 2 games. but right now the trend seems to indicate Thompson has the most value in what really looks like a 3-headed monster.
Now watch - Jones will come out with another 100++ game like he's done every time we try to bury the guy.
That Washington backfield is the
that keeps on giving.
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Thompson has struggled mightily with injuries in college and in the NFL. Trust me, this guy isn't going to hold up if he's touching the ball more than what a COP back should. I'll lay out the injury history..In today's NFL it seems like it's more a matter of who's getting it done rather than "who's too small to hold up". It sure seems like the Redskins aren't concerned with his workload so long as he's carrying the mail for them.
I think Kelley will get more than the 5 touches a game he's received the last 2 games. but right now the trend seems to indicate Thompson has the most value in what really looks like a 3-headed monster.
Now watch - Jones will come out with another 100++ game like he's done every time we try to bury the guy.
That Washington backfield is the
He had back problems all through-out college and actually broke his back his junior year.
2012 - missed 6 games with an ACL tear
2013 - knee problems, ankle problems, torn labrum (missed 7 games)
2014 - ankle sprain
2015 - back contusion (missed 1 game but this bothered him), shoulder contusion, torn labrum (missed 2 games)
If I know this then the coaching staff sure as hell knows this.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yep - I've seen the list in the past as well.
But, he's playing well right now and the WAS coaches want to win games. I'm not going to assume responsibility or health consciousness on the part of an NFL coaching staff.
Right now it's anyone's guess what will happen. I again wish the Kelley owners luck. I wonder if this topic will still be as all over the place in week 14 as it is through 7 weeks.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I'm honestly a bit shocked that WAS hasn't gone out and picked up a RB. Ridley was there for the taking, but ATL just added him.
If I were the WAS staff and had to choose between MJones, Kelley and Thompson, I'd pick "D: none of the above".
If I were the WAS staff and had to choose between MJones, Kelley and Thompson, I'd pick "D: none of the above".
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That occurred to me - I thought he was only supposed to miss like 3 weeks though and that was at the end of August.
Any updates on him lately?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
groin pains
Footballguy
"If Matt has an issue where he can’t go, it would be Robert in the lead role, more likely," said Gruden.
Just found this this little blurb.
Just found this this little blurb.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
He needs to be rostered if you're in need of a spot start this week. Long-term he has a bye and a terrible schedule but this week vs. CIN he can be useful. CIN has allowed the 3rd most PPG to RBs in the last three weeks and I cannot imagine him being much worse than Crow last week (the backfield even profiles similarly).
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Weebs210
Footballguy
Grabbed him for now and dropped my defense. Will drop him most likely a minute before Sundays game as I am against the cja owner who is hurting for rb help. If Jones doesn't go he could be decent spot start for sure.
Just picked him up... with blocking another team in mind. However, if it looks like he'll start, I might use him over Ingram this week.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He's not a FA in any of my leagues (Matt jones owner has had him in both for a month)
I think Thompson is the better play regardless of who's "starting".
Especially PPR
I've been wrong before. Likely outcome is a "hot hand" approach.
I think Thompson is the better play regardless of who's "starting".
Especially PPR
I've been wrong before. Likely outcome is a "hot hand" approach.
Boone22
Footballguy
Coach Jay Gruden said Rob Kelley would start if Matt Jones (knee) can't play this week.
"If Matt has an issue where he can’t go, it would be Robert in the lead role, more likely," said Gruden. "Chris [Thompson] has such an important role as far as third downs that we need him in that, and he’s not a very big guy." It's not a surprise that the Redskins would give Kelley carries over Thompson, but he'll need Jones to not play to have value. There should be more on Jones' status Thursday.
"If Matt has an issue where he can’t go, it would be Robert in the lead role, more likely," said Gruden. "Chris [Thompson] has such an important role as far as third downs that we need him in that, and he’s not a very big guy." It's not a surprise that the Redskins would give Kelley carries over Thompson, but he'll need Jones to not play to have value. There should be more on Jones' status Thursday.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Hilariously enough, and I know no one gives a #### about my league but the dude I'm playing only has Quizz, CJA and Jones to choose from this week. I dropped my kicker for him in that league for obvious reason. I'll probably end up dropping him before kick-off but I am curious as to how severe Jones' injury is.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Quiz & CJA is a pretty good tandem if he's strong at WR & QB.
tell us more about your league - # of teams, how many points you've scored, do you have a blog or a newsletter I can subscribe to?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
So week 8 - congrats to those who picked up & held Kelleyfor 7 weeks. He's maybe finally going to get his shot to start.
Considering the saga that this topic has become, let's have fun & get some projections going!
Kelley: 16 carries, 64.5 RuYd, 1 Rec, 7 yards, I give him a 20% chance at a TD (Cousins seems to love to run in the red zone)
CThompson 8 carries, 36 RuYd, 6 receptions, 54 ReYd, 1 ReTd
Cousins 4 carries, 13 yards, 1 RuTd
because I was so down on Kelley, i'll send whoever is closest to kelly's Rushing yds, Receiving yds & TD totals a bottle of hot sauce on the house..
(Rules: US only - international shipping is insane for 1 bottle, no editing post with guess, obviously)
(I hope this is allowed?)
Go!
ETA: i'll honor it whether MJones plays or not. Whoever is closest in all 3. A bottle will be given away. The only question is to whom.
Considering the saga that this topic has become, let's have fun & get some projections going!
Kelley: 16 carries, 64.5 RuYd, 1 Rec, 7 yards, I give him a 20% chance at a TD (Cousins seems to love to run in the red zone)
CThompson 8 carries, 36 RuYd, 6 receptions, 54 ReYd, 1 ReTd
Cousins 4 carries, 13 yards, 1 RuTd
because I was so down on Kelley, i'll send whoever is closest to kelly's Rushing yds, Receiving yds & TD totals a bottle of hot sauce on the house..
(Rules: US only - international shipping is insane for 1 bottle, no editing post with guess, obviously)
(I hope this is allowed?)
Go!
ETA: i'll honor it whether MJones plays or not. Whoever is closest in all 3. A bottle will be given away. The only question is to whom.
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wormburner
Footballguy
If Kelley starts, I'll say 14 carries, 57 yards, 1 TD; 2 rec, 18 yards.Considering the saga that this topic has become, let's have fun & get some projections going!
Kelley: 16 carries, 64.5 RuYd, 1 Rec, 7 yards, I give him a 20% chance at a TD (Cousins seems to love to run in the red zone)
because I was so down on Kelley, i'll send whoever is closest to kelly's Rushing yds, Receiving yds & TD totals a bottle of hot sauce on the house.
I hope I'm the Lucky Dog!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
So far you're winning in a landslide.If Kelley starts, I'll say 14 carries, 57 yards, 1 TD; 2 rec, 18 yards.
I hope I'm the Lucky Dog!
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
53 CARRIES - 623 YARDS 49 REC 132 YARDS ` 12 TD `S
TartanLion
Footballguy
13 carries, 68 yards, 1td, 1 reception 9 yards.
If I win you can send the bottle to brohan SWC, Soulfly or Bobby Layne
If I win you can send the bottle to brohan SWC, Soulfly or Bobby Layne
wormburner
Footballguy
If he hits these numbers, I'll send you a six-pack and a bag of pork rinds to go with your hot sauce.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
All kidding aside, I just flew out of Dulles and saw a dude in dreads, but I doubt it was him.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
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crusty crab
Footballguy
They have Mack Brown on their Practice Squad. Keith Marshall is on IR right now. It was a close race between Kelley and Brown, who both surprised in preseason, for who would make the 53. That's probably why they're not rushing out trying to pick up a guy like Ridley.
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Gruden said they are taking everyone with them to London.
However, I believe was not on the practice field on Thursday.
Take all that for what you will. Jones doesn't look like a "go" but they haven't "ruled him out" either...
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Note: be sure to check other folks projections. In the event of a tie, the winner will be the person who posted 1st by timestamp.
groin pains
Footballguy
Jones was a 'No Go' at practice today.
Whoah, I just realized that I predicted almost the same statline as Bolts fan, except that we differ in receiving yards by 10. If Kelly nabs a second reception, you know I'm gonna be screaming for the defense to get him down. LOLNote: be sure to check other folks projections. In the event of a tie, the winner will be the person who posted 1st by timestamp.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Kelley - 14 carries 53 yds , 2 catches 17 yds, 0 tds
Love me some hot sauce
Love me some hot sauce
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
Why are people predicting stat lines? There isn't even news he's going to start over Jones...
Captain Hook
Footballguy
guess that was all you read ....
Coach Jay Gruden said Rob Kelley would start if Matt Jones (knee) can't play this week.
"If Matt has an issue where he can’t go, it would be Robert in the lead role, more likely," said Gruden. "Chris [Thompson] has such an important role as far as third downs that we need him in that, and he’s not a very big guy." It's not a surprise that the Redskins would give Kelley carries over Thompson, but he'll need Jones to not play to have value. There should be more on Jones' status Thursday.
