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13 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

I think you missed it, the real polls show Trump is up big. He told us via Twitter this week that the ones we see on TV are fake. 

Some reports during this pandemic more Trumplican/ Republicans are registering than Democrats . Get those friends and family who plan on voting for Biden registered and if possible do the mail in ballot option if you live in urban areas with dense populations. Your polling places are going to be so busy that many will stay home with long lines  In November, and that is what a Trump is counting on. I don’t care what any poll says I believe that too many Trump haters will stay home in November and he will be re-elected. I am tempted right now to place money on it in Las Vegas.

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Michael Beschloss @BeschlossDC · 3m

NBC News: Barr recommended to Trump that Stone’s sentence not be commuted.

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5 minutes ago, Slapdash said:

 

Michael Beschloss @BeschlossDC · 3m

NBC News: Barr recommended to Trump that Stone’s sentence not be commuted.

Theater. Barr would resign if it weren’t. He won’t.

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3 hours ago, dkp993 said:

jm, You’re one of the more centered Trump “supporters” here. I’d love your thoughts on this. Are actions like this something that would sway your vote?  
 

* I quoted supporters here because if I remember correctly you voted for him in the past and have considered voting for him this time.  

I won't lose sleep over Stone skipping jail.  California is talking about letting thousands of prisoners out to prevent COVID-19 spread.  As far as dangers to society go, he's at the bottom of the list.

But man, what a humungous $hit on our Justice system.  You can't pardon your buddy, regardless of how badly you feel he was set up.  You can't pardon a guy whose alleged crime is lying to cover for you.  I know people are heeing and hawing that this wasn't a surprise. 

I've been trending away from Trump for a while.  Honestly, if I didn't have such disdain for high level Democrats, it would be so much easier to turn on Trump.  In 2016, Trump was the lesser of two evils.  Sadly, in 2020, Biden will be the lesser of two evils.  Beats the hell out of Bernie/Warren. 

 

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1 hour ago, dozer said:

It’s embarrassing that anyone who claims to love America would believe this pack of lies.

For what it's worth, I think putting 67 year old's in jail over this during a pandemic--while we're talking about releasing criminals that are already jailed--is the wrong move.  If we're putting young criminals with worse crimes free--Stone's probably not any more of a risk to society than those people.

But man it bothers me on so many levels that the President is going to go and free his buddy.  Unacceptable. 

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2 minutes ago, jm192 said:

I won't lose sleep over Stone skipping jail.  California is talking about letting thousands of prisoners out to prevent COVID-19 spread.  As far as dangers to society go, he's at the bottom of the list.

But man, what a humungous $hit on our Justice system.  You can't pardon your buddy, regardless of how badly you feel he was set up.  You can't pardon a guy whose alleged crime is lying to cover for you.  I know people are heeing and hawing that this wasn't a surprise. 

I've been trending away from Trump for a while.  Honestly, if I didn't have such disdain for high level Democrats, it would be so much easier to turn on Trump.  In 2016, Trump was the lesser of two evils.  Sadly, in 2020, Biden will be the lesser of two evils.  Beats the hell out of Bernie/Warren. 

 

Well said.  

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Bill Kristol

"In Donald Trump's world Roger Stone is rewarded for lying and Lt. Col Vindman is punished for telling the truth"

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4 minutes ago, lazyike said:

Bill Kristol

"In Donald Trump's world Roger Stone is rewarded for lying and Lt. Col Vindman is punished for telling the truth"

And Stone is somehow a patriot while Vindman is a traitor.  Unreal.  

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5 hours ago, jm192 said:

I won't lose sleep over Stone skipping jail.  California is talking about letting thousands of prisoners out to prevent COVID-19 spread.  As far as dangers to society go, he's at the bottom of the list.

But man, what a humungous $hit on our Justice system.  You can't pardon your buddy, regardless of how badly you feel he was set up.  You can't pardon a guy whose alleged crime is lying to cover for you.  I know people are heeing and hawing that this wasn't a surprise. 

I've been trending away from Trump for a while.  Honestly, if I didn't have such disdain for high level Democrats, it would be so much easier to turn on Trump.  In 2016, Trump was the lesser of two evils.  Sadly, in 2020, Biden will be the lesser of two evils.  Beats the hell out of Bernie/Warren. 

 

Kudos to you.  I know many Trump supporters IRL and obviously some folks here.  I’ve lost all respect for the ones who don’t speak up.

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15 hours ago, zoonation said:

The op-ed will be another reminder that the Russia investigation was anything but a hoax.  

Sure it was.  It will be a reminder how low the Democrats stooped to overthrow a legitimate elected POTUS.

I'm sure it won't be the lowest, though.  We've seen and will see more despicable behavior from them in the future, especially if Trump gets re-elected.

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2 minutes ago, BladeRunner said:

Democrats stooped to overthrow a legitimate elected POTUS.

Remind me again the date the Democrats named Robert Mueller special counsel. 

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5 minutes ago, SoBeDad said:

Mueller's op-ed in the Washington Post has led Lindsey Graham to change his mind about Bob testifying before the Senate. Almost 18 months after the investigation concluded. What's Graham's game plan? I doubt if Mueller will willingly testify.

https://mobile.twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1282382774419238918?cxt=HHwWjMC19diV-MsjAAAA

Rats jumping ship?

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1 hour ago, SoBeDad said:

Mueller's op-ed in the Washington Post has led Lindsey Graham to change his mind about Bob testifying before the Senate. Almost 18 months after the investigation concluded. What's Graham's game plan? I doubt if Mueller will willingly testify.

https://mobile.twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1282382774419238918?cxt=HHwWjMC19diV-MsjAAAA

Mueller's Op Ed:  :lol:

The dude couldn't even remember where he was, what the case was about out and probably his last name.  This OPINION proves what again?  That Democrats will latch onto the red meat once again?  We already knew that.

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3 minutes ago, BladeRunner said:

Mueller's Op Ed:  :lol:

The dude couldn't even remember where he was, what the case was about out and probably his last name.  This OPINION proves what again?  That Democrats will latch onto the red meat once again?  We already knew that.

"He lied about the identity of his intermediary to WikiLeaks..He lied by denying he had communicated with the Trump campaign about the timing of WikiLeaks’ releases. He in fact updated senior campaign officials repeatedly about WikiLeaks.” -Mueller

https://mobile.twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1282124975353233410?cxt=HHwWgMC0xdHW6csjAAAA

Care to dispute any of those statements?

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34 minutes ago, BladeRunner said:

Mueller's Op Ed:  :lol:

The dude couldn't even remember where he was, what the case was about out and probably his last name.  This OPINION proves what again?  That Democrats will latch onto the red meat once again?  We already knew that.

Do you ever get tired of just flat out lying on this board?  Because claiming he couldn’t remember  those things is not what happened in that testimony.  His opinion is pretty much the most informed on this topic.

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2 hours ago, SoBeDad said:

"He lied about the identity of his intermediary to WikiLeaks..He lied by denying he had communicated with the Trump campaign about the timing of WikiLeaks’ releases. He in fact updated senior campaign officials repeatedly about WikiLeaks.” -Mueller

https://mobile.twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1282124975353233410?cxt=HHwWgMC0xdHW6csjAAAA

Care to dispute any of those statements?

I think it's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this was a witch hunt and an attempted coup by the left (and the Obama admin).  Durham's investigation will just be icing on the cake.

I think most Americans have seen and heard enough that it's turned them off from anything the left may say. 

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7 minutes ago, BladeRunner said:

I think it's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this was a witch hunt and an attempted coup by the left (and the Obama admin).  Durham's investigation will just be icing on the cake.

I think most Americans have seen and heard enough that it's turned them off from anything the left may say. 

Cool so the fact that it’s beyond a reasonable doubt at this point you should easily be able to point to the arrests and convictions.  Who where those again?  

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38 minutes ago, dkp993 said:

Cool so the fact that it’s beyond a reasonable doubt at this point you should easily be able to point to the arrests and convictions.  Who where those again?  

That's like going after Pablo Escobar and ending up convicting the drug dealer they nabbed on a corner in downtown Cleveland and declaring victory.

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Just now, BladeRunner said:

That's like going after Pablo Escobar and ending up convicting the drug dealer they got on a corner in downtown Cleveland.

So no arrests or convictions, zero.  But I thought it was beyond a reasonable doubt?   

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Seems swampy that the impeached President Trump pardoned the convicted felon Roger Stone.

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1 hour ago, BladeRunner said:

I think it's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this was a witch hunt and an attempted coup by the left (and the Obama admin).  Durham's investigation will just be icing on the cake.

I think most Americans have seen and heard enough that it's turned them off from anything the left may say. 

Awesome how court convicted felons like Stone are innocent but an investigation that has been tried by Faux News, Rush Limbaugh or some internet web site is called proven beyond reasonable doubt. No matter ,it never ends. :wall:

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2 hours ago, BladeRunner said:

I think it's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this was a witch hunt and an attempted coup by the left (and the Obama admin).  Durham's investigation will just be icing on the cake.

I think most Americans have seen and heard enough that it's turned them off from anything the left may say. 

More posting of just outright lies.  Link yo proof beyond a reasonable doubt please.

1 hour ago, dkp993 said:

So no arrests or convictions, zero.  But I thought it was beyond a reasonable doubt?   

Not only no arrests...literally nothing at all claiming as he did outside of right wing opinions.

Wait in Mueller, wait on Horowitz, wait on Durham (interesting that he cant come il with anything before the election.). Odd how the whole Mueller is taking too ljng and wasting money (he didn't) and this Durham investigation seems to have to real end.

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