The General
Footballguy
While the Peter Schiff one sucked the one with the dude who wrote a book about breathing which sounds boring as hell was actually very good and interesting. James Nestor from last week.
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Major
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Cosign on both points. Joe really needs to step up his knowledge of finance. Schiff is definitely not it but I'll assume Joe doesn't know any better.
I really enjoyed Saget's stories. Didn't realize what a low key stand up legend he is.
AAABatteries
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Binky The Doormat
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Thed new episode might ruffle some feathers.
Binky The Doormat
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
i assume he means abigail shrier, who appears to have written a book wondering if the transgender "craze" is taking over our girls, or something like that.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Abigail Shrier - a woman that wrote a book about the rise of transgender teens, especially girls. A bit of the argument was that there is too much not gone through with drs, parents, etc..
Interesting and eye opening talk for sure, but as they say - it's a hot topic and full of landmines that people don't want to talk about.
KarmaPolice
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
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I pretty much feel the exact opposite. I enjoyed listening to everything Schiff had to say and even though he monopolized the entire podcast was was a brute about it, Rogan did nothing but sidetrack Peter with jokes and worse, brought up previous topics that they discussed on the last podcast and Joe forgot he was already swayed by Schiff’s arguments.
I like Joe plenty but I don’t wanna hear his thoughts when people like Schiff are on his show. Shows with his friends and other comedians scratch that itch.
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Speaking of the Schiff podcast....
Hes predicting some very dark days ahead economically. Doom and gloom stuff with fears of socialism. Essentially states we’ve been kicking the can down the road for a long time.
This isn’t new thinking. I’ve heard this for a long time. I guess we all just hope it doesn’t happen to us?
Hes predicting some very dark days ahead economically. Doom and gloom stuff with fears of socialism. Essentially states we’ve been kicking the can down the road for a long time.
This isn’t new thinking. I’ve heard this for a long time. I guess we all just hope it doesn’t happen to us?
Well if it does happen, I for one can’t wait for Peter Schiff to let us know that he told us all about it for 2 hours and 56 minutes out of his 3 hour Joe Rogan podcast episode back in July of 2020.
FWIW - I also don’t care to hear much of Rogan’s take on topics that he’s not super knowledgeable in, but I want him to be able to ask a GD question when he feels it necessary without being talked over repeatedly and continually by his guest.
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I understand where you’re coming from. It’s just as a long time listener I’m not angry or annoyed with Joe, I’m just almost finished with caring about anything he says - mostly because I could repeat what his views are on wolves, hunting wild hogs, vitamin D deficiency, Aliens, stoned ape theory, weed, Bigfoot and fanny packs.
Doing the interview on zoom exacerbates the problem but you're right, Peter can’t help from blabbering all over himself and it is certainly off-putting.
Lion to myself
Footballguy
I liked the Schiff podcast a lot for the content but it was a hard listen at times because they weren’t in the same room.
Let’s hope Schiff is wrong but I do agree with a lot of his points. In particular, how we keep kicking the can down the road and how government ruined college.
The point he puts a lot of emphasis on is the dollar losing value because of our monetary policy, inflation and losing its status as the World currency. I’m not seeing that world currency thing happening anytime real soon (I’m no expert though). I’d like to know what he thinks is going to replace the dollar. Almost everyone is printing money just like us.
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The General
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His stuff on what the government should do with COVID was nonsense. I couldn't get past that and stopped listening.
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He also used some piss poor examples when trying to explain economics such as “expensive heroin”. I know what he was trying to explain and the value of heroin wasn’t his point but it distracted from it.
The General
Footballguy
He talked so fast and so much I couldn't get past the first 20 mins or so, don't think I got to this part. If I understood right he was bragging about moving to Puerto Rico so he didn't have to pay taxes. Guy sounded like a huge ballbag. I'm sure he had some valid points in there somewhere but big pass for me.
jplvr
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I sent a link to a friend of mine whose kid has allergies and asthma. Also going to need braces soon, but his mom is a dentist who is probably on top of everything. Still, I hope he listens to it. I'm probably going to buy that audible book myself.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I had a mixed reaction to this episode. While I didn't agree with a lot of schiffs points--I found them to be interesting. I did agree with his premise that the USA has been living on the monetary printing press for far too long--and this is going to come back and haunt us big time. As he said--we can print dollars--but we cannot print purchasing power. We've been arbitrarily printing money for years and other countries have been accepting it and sending us back goods--but the moment they realize that our money is worthless and we may never pay off our debt--we are going to be in for a huge awakening. With that said--my biggest issue with the episode was the obvious audio issues/delays. I actually found Joe to be more annoying than Schiff in this podcast. It kinda sounded like Joe kept asking the same question over and over again in different ways. How would you solve this? If you had a magic wand--what woud you do? ..etc. Joe usually counterpoints--but it just seemed like he kinda just wound Schiff up and said "go". I don't think that would have been the case had they been in the same room doing the interview/conversation.
Binky The Doormat
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He's been hawking gold and precious materials for years and years. I had several of his books from 10+ years ago preaching doom and gloom. Not saying it can never happen - but he stands to benefit. Super #### this slimy POS.
Charlie Harper
Footballguy
On Schiff.
I don't buy that less taxes and smaller government would benefit the people. Corporations right now are sitting on trillions of cash overseas. Despite having all time high stock market prior to covid and low unemployment rate the income gap continued to increase. CEOs and corporations have shown that they'll do what's best for themselves. If there's no government oversight I doubt CEO/corporations will willingly give away money. He completely absolves corporations of their role in taking money from the government and blames it solely on the government.
Can someone explain his worry about the US dollar? I feel he ignores that the world is a global economy and that other countries rely on the US to buy the goods they produce. If our money became worthless, they would have no one to buy their goods. Also, a lot of innovation starts in the US, so while we may not be producing physical goods the US does offer other things to the world economy. What am I missing?
Overall, he just seems like a heartless guy that just thinks of the world based on money only. I agree the government needs to reign in spending, but I don't think a pandemic is the time to do it.
I don't buy that less taxes and smaller government would benefit the people. Corporations right now are sitting on trillions of cash overseas. Despite having all time high stock market prior to covid and low unemployment rate the income gap continued to increase. CEOs and corporations have shown that they'll do what's best for themselves. If there's no government oversight I doubt CEO/corporations will willingly give away money. He completely absolves corporations of their role in taking money from the government and blames it solely on the government.
Can someone explain his worry about the US dollar? I feel he ignores that the world is a global economy and that other countries rely on the US to buy the goods they produce. If our money became worthless, they would have no one to buy their goods. Also, a lot of innovation starts in the US, so while we may not be producing physical goods the US does offer other things to the world economy. What am I missing?
Overall, he just seems like a heartless guy that just thinks of the world based on money only. I agree the government needs to reign in spending, but I don't think a pandemic is the time to do it.
jvdesigns2002
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I'm not an expert--but I'll try to sum it up as simple as possible. If we keep printing our dollar endlessly--the value of it will diminish and be diluted. Countries that sell us their goods will either have to raise their prices or will at some point be fed up with accepting a valueless dollar for their goods and labor. Being that a large foundation of our economy is built upon our printing presses--if this foundation gets eroded away--we are screwed. While I don't agree with Schiff on a lot of things--don't underestimate how much we've relied on our printing presses and the benefit we have of being the worlds reserve currency. Look at how it rescued our stock market. Without the fed--our stock market was 30-40% lower than it is now just a couple months ago. If we lose the power and status of the dollar--we are in for some big trouble.
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Charlie Harper
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If countries start raising prices wouldn't the US would just print more money AND because US demands drop countries would be forced to lower prices because of excess inventory?
If countries stop accepting a valueless dollar. Then they remove the #1 consumer for in the world. That woud lead to demand dropping and because countries have built their entire economy around cheap labor to build goods for the US they'd essentially be ruining their own economy?
Basically if US stopped buying goods, what countries would take it's place to replace that demand? I guess that's what my brain can't get over....simple supply and demand.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
If they raise prices and we print more dollars without increasing the wages of the masses here in the US- then what? When the government prints money it goes to the super wealthy disproportionately . If the typical citizen in the US is priced out of an item- demand for that item in quantity drops. So then what- the government will print more money and distribute it to the masses? No. Our government has kept Interest rates low for so long that a large majority of our country has very little in savings and their long term ability to be solid consumers is dropping. There is a reason why the super wealthy are sprinting to acquire assets because they understand that at some point the value of the dollar will drop like a rock and they don’t want to have their wealth eroded away by being too exposed to it
Charlie Harper
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jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
No--because as you print more--you dilute the value more--and you accelerate the process of our currency being valueless. The path we are on is a negative feedback loop. At some point we need to move our economy away from the printing press and actually start producing goods, pay off the debt, raise rates and actually keep some strength in our dollar. Even that process will be painful--but we can't just keep kicking this can down the road. It can and will haunt us if w e keep it up.
ren hoek
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I agree, the initial part of the broadcast was hard to watch and I love Schiff. But they eventually establish a nice back and forth. I watched the whole 3 hours, Schiff is definitely one of the rawest people out there.
Like I said I already liked Schiff. I get why people tuned out and disliked the video. Schiff for his part (~4:00) said he couldn’t even hear Joe once he started talking and basically had no feedback loop on his Skype setup. They already discussed it, they’re cool and they’ll have another show down the road (hopefully in person next time).
jvdesigns2002
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Disclaimer---the episode that I'm mentioning has some pretty heavy emotional moments. The newer podcast with David Choe is truly a journey. A combination of amazing stories, a window in the flawed mind of somebody battling mental health problems, funny moments--literally an entire roller coaster of emotions. Maybe I'm just soft--but there were moments where it got heavy and tough for me. I'd recommend listening to this one when your mind is in a place where you can focus and give it the attention it deserves. This one hit me kinda hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7T6__UbhBI&t=12037s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7T6__UbhBI&t=12037s
beer 30
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Timely bump, was just going to look for this thread. Just listened to the Bob Saget, Ben Shapiro and Oliver Stone.
Saget was good for the comedy history the two discussed, really liked the Shapiro interview because they got into some into some good point-counterpoint discussions about topical stuff and Stone is just a good listen, very interesting life he's lead.
Saget was good for the comedy history the two discussed, really liked the Shapiro interview because they got into some into some good point-counterpoint discussions about topical stuff and Stone is just a good listen, very interesting life he's lead.
ShamrockPride
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Really loved this one. It was my first foray into financial theory. He broke it down in ways that were really easy to understand. Would love to hear him in studio or another virtual platform where there's less video delay but this was still great.
Shapiro was good. It's nice seeing him with another highly respected/influential interviewer that there's a mutual respect for. That way he has to turn down the talking at 100mph/tool shtick and really engage in a back and forth, in which Rogan can bring it.
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I really like Shapiro but think he really hurts himself by acting like such a pompous, smart ### all the time.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Yep. I gave liked him the couple times he's been on Rogan, and he makes some decent points, but can't listen to much of his own podcast.
BassNBrew
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Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
We have entered day 1 of the 79 days of hell.
beer 30
Footballguy
For those wondering, Alex Jones did not appear on the show yesterday.
Just finished up the Tristan Harris (one of mains from Social Dilemma) pod. Fascinating/scary stuff, especially the ending.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
I’ve always found Rogan entertaining so I watched - I don’t really see anything in there that would be worthy of being pulled. Which part are you thinking about?
ETA - Let me be clear though - I disagree with a lot in the video. He makes an absurd claim that you don’t hear about those dying or in the hospital frequently being obese. We’ve heard that constantly from pretty much day 1.
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BroncoFreak_2K3
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I heard on Lex Fridman a few weeks ago then saw she was on Rogan, haven’t had a chance to listen yet but everyone said it’s been one of his best.
https://lexfridman.com/yeonmi-park/
dkp993
Footballguy
I’m sure it’s the same basic stories/experiences.
It’s really hard to comprehend honestly, and the stories are so wild you want to believe it’s exaggerated. Unfortunately they likely aren’t. Scary stuff.
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Pipes
Footballguy
#1691. Even if you can’t stand Rogan this is a must listen. Really eye opening how terrible the residents of North Korea really have it. I knew it was bad but this was eye opening.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Some of the best JRE talk I've heard, i really need to dig into his show more, I always thought he was just an MMA celebrity comedian but that Spotify deal sure got my attention and I have been pulling up a lot of his old shows with guests like Henry Rollins and he's just had a slew of interesting people over the years.
The first few minutes of this is like music to my ears, literally like the first time I heard a pop album in my childhood in the 80s. He captures it so well, how folks are acting smug and telling people that can't go to work or buy groceries any more, it is mind blowing what is happening right nw in this country and the "government control" and the passport discussion getting everyone to do what they want, it's scary sounding.
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