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Dynasty: Rashaad Penny, Seattle Seahawks

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On 4/15/2018 at 4:16 PM, Tecmo said:

What scares me most about Penny is the lack of power to his game.  I just don't see him breaking tackles. 

Don't get me wrong.  I love the acceleration, breakaway speed, and the occasional killer jump cuts.  I'll be drafting him if he makes it to 7,8.  I just wonder if this glaring weakness makes him share duties?

He led the nation in YAC with 1,295 last year  and YAC average. That shows he has power. He may not be a tank, but he certainly is no weakling.

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On 4/13/2018 at 5:55 PM, kutta said:

It should also tell you something about his level of competition.

How does the fact SDSU doesn't pass have to do with the level?

A team who runs as often as SDSU is going to churn out multiple 1,000 yard backs. The back up isn't rushing during garbage time. That goes to the 3rd, 4th and 5th RB. 

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1 hour ago, BucsRule said:

How does the fact SDSU doesn't pass have to do with the level?

A team who runs as often as SDSU is going to churn out multiple 1,000 yard backs. The back up isn't rushing during garbage time. That goes to the 3rd, 4th and 5th RB. 

It also could mean they are playing against some bad defenses.

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Love this guy, fwiw: big, fast, fluid, and elusive. Good vision, could be a little better, but he's decisive so whatever crease he chooses will at least get hit with 220lbs downhill. 

Hopefully he goes in the early 2nd to NYG, Ind, or TB, which would make him the 1.02 in most formats.

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2 hours ago, kutta said:

It also could mean they are playing against some bad defenses.

Marshall Faulk, LT2, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, Kareem Hunt... I'm sorry, while its a true statement it means very little to me. He dominated. 

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2 minutes ago, Bojang0301 said:

Marshall Faulk, LT2, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, Kareem Hunt... I'm sorry, while its a true statement it means very little to me. He dominated. 

And the subject had a better ypc than all of the above.

 

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16 hours ago, Bojang0301 said:

Marshall Faulk, LT2, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, Kareem Hunt... I'm sorry, while its a true statement it means very little to me. He dominated. 

And Donnell Pumphrey dominated too - after all, he’s the all-time NCAA Division 1 FBS rushing leader.

How’s that working out for him?

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31 minutes ago, kutta said:

And Donald Pumphrey dominated too - after all, he’s the all-time NCAA Division 1 FBS rushing leader.

How’s that working out for him?

Pumphrey looked awesome before putting pads on but didn't look good in limited pre season work then had a minor hamstring injury.  The eagles put him on ir to keep the roster spot. He was healthy by October, learned the offense and put on muscle mass.  He was about 195 as of early March and still working towards taking the sproles role.  Still has the potential to emerge as a third down or CoP back with touchdown potential, and an outside chance to earn more.  Whether that's with the eagles or not, or this year, I don't know. He's a guy to keep on your dynasty waiver radar or grab for nothing in a trade imo.

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6 hours ago, kutta said:

And Donald Pumphrey dominated too - after all, he’s the all-time NCAA Division 1 FBS rushing leader.

How’s that working out for him?

How’s it working out for David Fluellen?

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8 hours ago, bostonfred said:

Also it's Donnell not Donald. 

Thanks - bourbon and auto-correct are a tough combo to overcome...

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1 hour ago, kutta said:

Thanks - bourbon and auto-correct are a tough combo to overcome...

Mike Haynes and Lester Hayes tough.

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No way I get him at 1.3 (technically 1.7) now!!! Screw me!!!!

Tex

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Just now, Hankmoody said:

Well heck, have 1.04 in two leagues and was planning on him there in both.  This might draw too much attention though.

Kiss that pick Good bye!!! 

Tex

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Took him 1.05, very happy with the landing spot. Now get some oline. 

Have 1.03/1.04 in another draft, may have more penny stocks. 

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Rotoworld take:

Seahawks selected San Diego State RB Rashaad Penny with the No. 27 overall pick in the 2018 NFL draft.

Penny wasn't forecast as a first-round pick but has an impressive profile. Seattle has been in desperate need of improving its running game. Penny (5’11/220) emerged from Donnel Pumphrey’s shadow as a senior, logging a prolific 289/2,248/7.8/23 rushing line and graduating with a silly 7.49 YPC average and eight career return TDs, seven on kickoffs and one on a punt. In 2017, PFF College credited Penny with the most missed tackles forced (86) and runs of 15-plus yards (35) among draft-eligible backs. Penny ran 4.46 at the Combine for an exciting 92nd-percentile Speed Score. Penny needs work in the passing game – his blocking was inconsistent on college tape, and he never caught more than 19 passes in a season – but Penny offers workhorse potential as a faster version of Carlos Hyde.

Apr 26 - 11:08 PM

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I like his situation BC it gives him a clear path to being a 3 down workhorse back but my gd that o line is putrid.   

Dont know what to think.  Interesting that the Seahawks viewed him higher than guice and Chubb. 

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Can't block.  Doesn't catch passes.  Behind a terrible OL.  Coming from a college where all they do is run with 2 TE's and a FB on every play.  It's like drafting a QB from Texas Tech..stats are meaningless for these guys (RB's from SDSU and QB's TT).  Squarely put on my do not draft list.  Weak conference to boot.

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17 minutes ago, Wooters said:

Can't block.  Doesn't catch passes.  Behind a terrible OL.  Coming from a college where all they do is run with 2 TE's and a FB on every play.  It's like drafting a QB from Texas Tech..stats are meaningless for these guys (RB's from SDSU and QB's TT).  Squarely put on my do not draft list.  Weak conference to boot.

:lmao: see you next fall.

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1 hour ago, Bojang0301 said:

I like how it took him going in the first to get the respect he deserved 4 months ago.

100% agreed. He was my #2 RB in the draft all along. Not sure that RB was the best use of a 1st rounder for Seattle, but they took the right one at least.

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Feeling a little strange always being against the herd on Penny. Pre-draft, I was quietly gaga on Penny and eager to reach for him in dynasty. Now, I hate the Seattle landing spot, and think the uncertainty there will be overlooked by the masses who focus on a 1st round pick. Now, that's coming from a guy who owned 4 Seahawk RBs these past 2 seasons, and every one of them hyped, so I could be jaded  But I think there are some real questions about the Seahawks. That OL is brutal, and losing 1/2 of their defense, who knows what it will be like in Seattle? Clearly they are not getting OL/D help from their 1st rounder. I'd almost rather see him in Cleveland.

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4 minutes ago, BigJim® said:

Feeling a little strange always being against the herd on Penny. Pre-draft, I was quietly gaga on Penny and eager to reach for him in dynasty. Now, I hate the Seattle landing spot, and think the uncertainty there will be overlooked by the masses who focus on a 1st round pick. Now, that's coming from a guy who owned 4 Seahawk RBs these past 2 seasons, and every one of them hyped, so I could be jaded  But I think there are some real questions about the Seahawks. That OL is brutal, and losing 1/2 of their defense, who knows what it will be like in Seattle? Clearly they are not getting OL/D help from their 1st rounder. I'd almost rather see him in Cleveland.

Eh, most seem to see this as a bad spot but I think it's pretty good.  Everyone that needed a running back this year has a bad O-line so not really much room for improvement there.  Seattle doesn't have much competition who has a coach that seems to prefer using one back in a game when he can find one he likes, who just spent more capital on Penny than he has on any RB in his NFL career.

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“New Seahawks RB Rashaad Penny’s ADOT of 4.5 is impressive and indicates he was running more than just check down and screen routes. Penny was especially explosive when he was split out wide, tight, or in the slot; he led these backs with 11.7 Y/T on non-backfield targets.”

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Carroll on RB Rashaad Penny: "Such an exciting player, so versatile, so dynamic, both running and passing game. Very gifted catching the ball and running routes  . . . Best part about this kid is he's very humble."

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John Schneider said the Seahawks would have taken Rashaad Penny at No. 18. Also shared this tidbit: "A true rarity is that we had a team call us after we selected him to try to acquire him. I've never experienced that."

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8 minutes ago, Bojang0301 said:

John Schneider said the Seahawks would have taken Rashaad Penny at No. 18. Also shared this tidbit: "A true rarity is that we had a team call us after we selected him to try to acquire him. I've never experienced that."

I wonder who tried to trade for him.

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Jeff Ratcliffe✔@JeffRatcliffe

Rashaad Penny 2018 projection:

230 carries for 950 yards and 6 TDs
36 catches for 297 yards and 1 TD

7:56 AM - Apr 27, 2018

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17 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Eh, most seem to see this as a bad spot but I think it's pretty good.  Everyone that needed a running back this year has a bad O-line so not really much room for improvement there.  Seattle doesn't have much competition who has a coach that seems to prefer using one back in a game when he can find one he likes, who just spent more capital on Penny than he has on any RB in his NFL career.

At one time pff has a bottom 5 o-lineman and 3 or 4 were Seahawks. The teams looks like they are in free fall and they made a desperation move for the new Lynch to fix it. 

The defense is a dumpster fire too. It's the Wilson show imo. But then I thought Penny was highly overrated before the draft. I dont really get it. He runs decently fast in a straight line without much burst or wiggle.

Doesn't matter to me I suppose. Looks like he's easily the 1.02 and I'll never draft him there.

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16 hours ago, Bojang0301 said:

“Browns LOVED Penny. Would have probably taken him at 33. But now he’s a Seahawk.”

-Mike Silver

Well if the Browns wanted him.....

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16 hours ago, Bojang0301 said:

“Browns LOVED Penny. Would have probably taken him at 33. But now he’s a Seahawk.”

-Mike Silver

Congrats Seattle used the 27th pick and took a RB the Browns would have considered drafting in the 2nd round. 

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1 minute ago, Ilov80s said:

Congrats Seattle used the 27th pick and took a RB the Browns would have considered drafting in the 2nd round. 

Haha I was going to say, the fact that the Browns desperately wanted this guy is a bad thing, right?

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21 minutes ago, voiceofunreason said:

At one time pff has a bottom 5 o-lineman and 3 or 4 were Seahawks. The teams looks like they are in free fall and they made a desperation move for the new Lynch to fix it. 

The defense is a dumpster fire too. It's the Wilson show imo. But then I thought Penny was highly overrated before the draft. I dont really get it. He runs decently fast in a straight line without much burst or wiggle.

Doesn't matter to me I suppose. Looks like he's easily the 1.02 and I'll never draft him there.

 

Not so fast, sir.  Let's wait to see where Guice, Jones, and Chubb land before making such a bold proclamation.  He's not even clearly ahead of Michel at this point in time...

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Penny's line in college was one of the best run blocking lines in the league according to Joe Hoka. Seattle has one of the worst lines in the NFL. I am worried for how this pick plats out short term. 

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On 4/27/2018 at 1:36 AM, FreeBaGeL said:

I wonder who tried to trade for him.

I heard during the broadcast that it was the Patriots, which is pretty interesting.  

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I was lukewarm on this pick. Seattle then drafts the best run blocking TE. A player projected as the #3 OL, a couple of OL free agents...and I see it as all coming together. I like the pick.

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43 minutes ago, seahawk 17 said:

I was lukewarm on this pick. Seattle then drafts the best run blocking TE. A player projected as the #3 OL, a couple of OL free agents...and I see it as all coming together. I like the pick.

IDK, you guys took a RB in the first, then a blocking TE and traded up for a punter while there were potential starting offensive lineman available.

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34 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

IDK, you guys took a RB in the first, then a blocking TE and traded up for a punter while there were potential starting offensive lineman available.

This is a RB discussion not draft strategy. I like the Penny pick now. When they announced RB...I screamed yes...they said Penny...I was like how did you manage to screw that up? Now I am on board.

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