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If anyone honestly believes that, I wonder why they bother to vote or even take the time to take part in a message board discussion. If everyone in government is corrupt then there is nothing you can really do or say that will ever make any difference.
Of course it’s an issue. Of course they serve themselves. Of course their number one priority is often to preserve or increase their own power.
The problem is that America has a presidential democracy. It is the only one that I am aware of (I did a poli-sci thesis paper on this back in 2002, could be different now) that has survived permanently. All others ultimately lead to authoritarianism. Separating the legislative and executive branches sounds like a good idea in theory, but it ultimately leads to corruption. Both in the executive and legislative branches. It also tends to promote 2 party systems, which are also not ideal for reasons I won't get into.
That while Tim is saying how rare it is for a politician to use their office for personal gain, his preferred presidential candidate did so quite openly.
Tim said "these things happen, but not to the majority." Doesn't seem like one example really has much to say about that.
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The willingness to stretch the definitions of words to score political points (e.g., "quite openly") is part of the reason why Trump has been able to so easily cross the boundaries of what was once considered to be the limit of normal.
Sure. But I will never tire of reminding Tim that he supported a corrupt candidate. (Not that Trump isn't corrupt too, of course).
No one ever said politicians don't support good causes or do good things. It's not either/or here.
Hey look, I know the way to get on SportsCenter is sinking the deep three or some crazy alley-oop pass, but taking the nice, reliable lay-up is what ultimately wins games.
Hey, another board parliamentarian. That makes (counts fingers)......three now. Three!
Exactly. You fight back against a lying conman fast and with facts. He won't even engage most of the time because he is just pulling things out of his ###. Democrats need a public voice to engage him and keep him from setting the spin.
Your statement is not founded in any fact at all. Also, it is rather rude to assert someone as "stupid" when she has demonstrated nothing of the sort.
I strongly disagree with this. This may put me in the "old man yells at clouds" territory, but I do not like seeing elected officials beef with one another on social media, especially in an environment as inhospitable to nuanced argument as Twitter. AOC is absolutely right that Trump should be impeached, but the Twitter aspect just degrades the level of discourse that much more. Let's not normalize Trump's mode of communication.
You should always engage a conman with facts. Otherwise his lying becomes the truth to those he has conned. That's why we are were we are .
Come on. We arent where we are because people didnt argue with him on twitter and then say bye at the end.
They announced they would raise their minimum wage to $15 an hour EIGHT MONTHS AGO. And that's just in the US. Bezos' billionaire fortune was predicated on paying people low wages as they toiled away in horrible conditions. Are you under the impression that Bezos just became a billionaire within the last eight months?
Her quote was trash. How are they stripping their ability to get health care? She later double-down on stupid with her response which included “I think it’s certainly a part of the equation when you have a very large workforce and you underpay every single person.”....i know people right out of college getting six figure salaries and big signing bonuses. How is that underplayed. She is such a blowhard, but keep defending it please.
"Uh, see, what I meant to say was that what she said about their access to health care was wrong!"
The problem is stated in the title and second sentence of that article: these days we DO associate concentration camps with Hitler’s death camps. We shouldn’t necessarily, but we do. Therefore AOC’s rhetoric on this matter is going to infuriate people and she knows it. In this manner (not in fabricating stuff) she is indeed like Trump.
So you believe her when she says every single Amazon employee is underpaid? That is not some Trumponian-like lie?
It is Trumpian like, but it’s an exaggeration, hyperbole, rather than an outright fabrication, which Trump also does often , but she doesn’t.
If you think saying "every single person" instead of "almost every person" is a "Trumponian-like lie," you might want to consider paying a lot more attention to Trump and a lot less attention to a first-term congresswoman from another state. Exaggerations and rhetorical flourishes whose meaning is fairly obvious to anyone applying common sense to them are not the same as outright fabrications.
A kid with a 4-year degree getting $115k plus a $30k signing bonus is not underpaid. There are tend of thousands of Amazon employees who would be impossible to classify as underpaid by any reasonable definition. That makes it a lie.
You just answered the two-year old question of how can people defend Trump lies. Just keep excusing and provide rationalizations for those lies.
If I had to guess, AOC would regard the example you’re offering as an “executive” of Amazon, and not an “employee”; that’s typical leftist terminology. I strongly disagree with this type of thinking but I doubt that in her mind it’s a lie.
at the comments. Wow Trump supporters hate her. 