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8 minutes ago, IvanKaramazov said:

People in this thread are obsessed with the Fresno Grizzlies.  

Nobody is obsessed. The Fresno Grizzlies are just the face of baseball. And they are morons. They are the dumbest baseball team in existence.

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21 minutes ago, whoknew said:

Nobody is obsessed. The Fresno Grizzlies are just the face of baseball. And they are morons. They are the dumbest baseball team in existence.

Even the kitchen staff doesn't know what a garbage disposal is. 

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44 minutes ago, whoknew said:

Nobody is obsessed. The Fresno Grizzlies are just the face of baseball. And they are morons. They are the dumbest baseball team in existence.

They can’t spell accomplishments. 

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4 hours ago, jonessed said:

The Kim Jong-Un comparison seems unfair.  She might actually like the Castro comparison though.

Castro is a little too far to the right for her. 

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5 hours ago, whoknew said:

 

Great. So she says she defends the workers of her state, but then steps in and takes work away from them - working a shift that they could be working. Everything she does is so stupid. #jonquote

Why do you liars always have to make up quotes instead of using my actual quotes?  Are you obsessed with lying?  It is not like there are not hundreds of actual quotes to choose from.  Really pathetic.  

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5 hours ago, whoknew said:

 

Great. So she says she defends the workers of her state, but then steps in and takes work away from them - working a shift that they could be working. Everything she does is so stupid. #jonquote

If you've got a quote for jon you want to use, use the exact quote and link. Thanks.  If not, don't "quote" someone saying something if it's not a real quote. 

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4 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

Why do you liars always have to make up quotes instead of using my actual quotes?  Are you obsessed with lying?  It is not like there are not hundreds of actual quotes to choose from.  Really pathetic.  

I feel confident that people on this board knew that wasn't an actual quote.

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Just now, Joe Bryant said:

If you've got a quote for jon you want to use, use the exact quote and link. Thanks.  If not, don't say someone quoted something if it's not a quote. 

Parody is not allowed anymore? I'm confident people on this board knew that wasn't an actual quote. 

 

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5 minutes ago, whoknew said:

Parody is not allowed anymore? I'm confident people on this board knew that wasn't an actual quote. 

 

It wasn't being excellent. HTH

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29 minutes ago, whoknew said:

Parody is not allowed anymore? I'm confident people on this board knew that wasn't an actual quote. 

 

Quoting someone saying something they didn't say is not allowed. Thanks. 

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5 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

Quoting someone saying something they didn't say is not allowed. Thanks. 

I feel like you're avoiding the actual issue here Joe. I can't imagine anyone thinks that was a direct quote. Would it be different if he'd written "Sounds like something Jon would say"? Would that not be allowed?

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3 minutes ago, mcintyre1 said:

I feel like you're avoiding the actual issue here Joe. I can't imagine anyone thinks that was a direct quote. Would it be different if he'd written "Sounds like something Jon would say"? Would that not be allowed?

It was taking a shot at Jon...that isn't hard to understand.

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47 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

If you've got a quote for jon you want to use, use the exact quote and link. Thanks.  If not, don't "quote" someone saying something if it's not a real quote. 

I'm pretty sure he was making a joke. Might want to clarify that parody/humor is not exempt from the "not misrepresenting quotes" policy.

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10 minutes ago, mcintyre1 said:

I feel like you're avoiding the actual issue here Joe. I can't imagine anyone thinks that was a direct quote. Would it be different if he'd written "Sounds like something Jon would say"? Would that not be allowed?

Not avoiding at all.

Quoting someone is a big deal. If you're going to quote someone, use the actual quote.

If you want to say "sounds like something X would say" that can sometimes be ok. BUT it is very often used in a way where the person they're talking about doesn't agree with it at all. Where it become putting words into their mouth.

Fortunately, in this medium, everything is right here in black and white. If you want to talk about something says, it's tons better to use the actual words they say as they're right here in front of us. So please just do that. That way there's no disagreement and you're talking about facts. Thanks.

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11 minutes ago, Gr00vus said:

Might want to clarify that parody/humor is not exempt from the "not misrepresenting quotes" policy.

Thanks. Quoting someone saying something they didn't say is not allowed. Including the #quote thing.

 

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26 minutes ago, mcintyre1 said:

I feel like you're avoiding the actual issue here Joe. I can't imagine anyone thinks that was a direct quote. Would it be different if he'd written "Sounds like something Jon would say"? Would that not be allowed?

It wasn’t a joke, it was a potshot.  He knows better.  We all do.

These things aren’t hard.

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59 minutes ago, jonessed said:

It wasn’t a joke, it was a potshot.  He knows better.  We all do.

These things aren’t hard.

It most certainly was a joke. Some of the world's greatest humor is grounded in biting criticism.

I'm not going to say I'm the Smothers Brothers or anything but there is definitely humor in my posts.

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16 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Cruz & Cortez reach agreement.

- All seems good here.

That would be amazing.

I'd love to see more of this kind of stuff.  Maybe something along the lines of term limits for Congress as well.

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2 hours ago, parasaurolophus said:

I loved this comment...

"The writers for this season are awesome"

Frankly, Ted Cruz and AOC make for a pretty good buddy cop movie.

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1 minute ago, Mister CIA said:

What!?  No one has fired up a @Jon quote alias yet.

 

Yea I'm not doing that again. Last time I did that, someone reported me and then I got yelled at. 

Fake quotes (regardless of how freakin' hilarious they are) are not allowed on these boards.

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On 5/28/2019 at 6:36 PM, jonessed said:

It wasn’t a joke, it was a potshot.  He knows better.  We all do.

These things aren’t hard.

Seems the concept of being decent to other posters is stil going over some their heads.   I am glad Joe stepped up and said something.  Positions get distorted all the time by the mob as a cheap way to marginalize different viewpoints.  It is a lot of the same mob who gets upset if AOC's positions get distorted even in the slightest bit to mock her positions.     

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21 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Frankly, Ted Cruz and AOC make for a pretty good buddy cop movie.

Great twist with Cruz's father being the serial killer. 

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1 hour ago, Sand said:

Classy.  She's becoming a corrupt swamp creature while we watch.

 

Another good across the aisle subject.  If this passes we won't have to wrangle with cases like EWTN.

Depends.  If this for Cruz is like when the $2 copay allergy prescription became the $40 OTC meds then AOC needs to say no thank you. 

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1 hour ago, Sand said:

Classy.  She's becoming a corrupt swamp creature while we watch.

 

Another good across the aisle subject.  If this passes we won't have to wrangle with cases like EWTN.

Lol.  A 3-5k raise.  Swamp creature.  

You cant make this up.  

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14 minutes ago, zoonation said:

Lol.  A 3-5k raise.  Swamp creature.  

You cant make this up.  

And corrupt. 

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I am glad she is getting a pay raise.   I hope she shares it evenly with her staff along with all the excess salary she receives.  

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6 hours ago, zoonation said:

Lol.  A 3-5k raise.  Swamp creature.  

You cant make this up.  

That statement, made over the thought of not getting a 4k raise on top of the top 1% salary she's getting, says a ton.  Yes, we, as citizens, need to ensure she gets to 180k so the black money pools all of a sudden have no sway.   :lol: You're right, you can't make stuff this ludicrous up. This coming from a person preaching (from one side of her mouth, anyway) about wages for the "working man."

Big picture - a brand new employee, hired in at 174k a year plus a gold plated pension plan, is already whining about a pay raise.  She fits the millennial meme perfectly.

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7 hours ago, Bottomfeeder Sports said:

Depends.  If this for Cruz is like when the $2 copay allergy prescription became the $40 OTC meds then AOC needs to say no thank you. 

You realize that these costs under prescription are insurance set aside costs that people are already paying for, right?  It's not like the costs actually went up 20x.  One is a hidden cost, one is not.  Those hidden costs almost always hide bigger profit margins.  

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9 hours ago, Bottomfeeder Sports said:

Depends.  If this for Cruz is like when the $2 copay allergy prescription became the $40 OTC meds then AOC needs to say no thank you. 

What allergy meds became 40 bucks that were previously 2? I take zyrtec d and it is regularly on sale for 20 bucks. Claritin, allegra, etc are all about the same price. The non d is much cheaper.

Spend more on meds but save money not going to doctor to get the prescription, less insurance cost, and it is easier. 

 

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2 hours ago, Sand said:

That statement, made over the thought of not getting a 4k raise on top of the top 1% salary she's getting, says a ton.  Yes, we, as citizens, need to ensure she gets to 180k so the black money pools all of a sudden have no sway.   :lol: You're right, you can't make stuff this ludicrous up. This coming from a person preaching (from one side of her mouth, anyway) about wages for the "working man."

Big picture - a brand new employee, hired in at 174k a year plus a gold plated pension plan, is already whining about a pay raise.  She fits the millennial meme perfectly.

How did she whine about the pay raise?  She was asked about a bill to not block the COLA raise and she answered.  That isn't corrupt or swampy at all.

Her answer might be crap justification...but come on.

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41 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

How did she whine about the pay raise?  She was asked about a bill to not block the COLA raise and she answered.  That isn't corrupt or swampy at all.

Her answer might be crap justification...but come on.

What? She replied to a tweet that was replying to a politico article. It wasnt directed at her.  How is that just answering a question?

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21 minutes ago, parasaurolophus said:

What? She replied to a tweet that was replying to a politico article. It wasnt directed at her.  How is that just answering a question?

Sorry...my bad.

Was it still whining?  And how so?

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2 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

Sorry...my bad.

Was it still whining?  And how so?

Not going to get into a semantics argument about whining. If somebody points out a bad call made by refs plenty of people call it whining. Plenty dont. It is obviously a subjective term. 

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12 hours ago, Sand said:

Classy.  She's becoming a corrupt swamp creature while we watch.

 

Another good across the aisle subject.  If this passes we won't have to wrangle with cases like EWTN.

Here's the twitter feed of the person she's retweeting and amplifying.

Whatever you might think of congressional pay raises, it is very clearly not the doing of "corrupt swamp creatures."  The strongest advocates tend to be people like Stoller, who rail against powerful corporations exerting undue influence over politics and our lives.

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25 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

 The strongest advocates tend to be people like Stoller, who rail against powerful corporations exerting undue influence over politics and our lives.

And how far do you think the needle moves with a 5k raise?

Let's be real here.

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Wages have not kept up and we need people like those in congress to lead the way and hopefully other companies and business's will follow the lead and give their employees a COLA raise.

My cheap boss won`t.  I said congress is getting a 4K COLA raise..he told me "Then run for congress"

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7 minutes ago, Sand said:

And how far do you think the needle moves with a 5k raise?

Let's be real here.

Beats me.  I wasn't defending their position (I mostly agree with them, but for different reasons that I've articulated already).  I was just pointing out that retweeting and agreeing with Matt Stoller is definitely not the action of a "corrupt swamp creature," and thus your characterization of it was wrong.

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1 minute ago, TobiasFunke said:

Beats me.  I wasn't defending their position (I mostly agree with them, but for different reasons that I've articulated already).  I was just pointing out that retweeting and agreeing with Matt Stoller is definitely not the action of a "corrupt swamp creature," and thus your characterization of it was wrong.

It is if you are just using it to get yourself more money and trying to make your adoring fans think it was for other reasons.

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8 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

agreeing with Matt Stoller is definitely not the action of a "corrupt swamp creature," and thus your characterization of it was wrong.

She is a (self-proclaimed) socialist and yet is promoting a raise to her already healthy salary.  Coming from most folks there I wouldn't bat an eye.  From her the waft of hypocrisy is quite pronounced.

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Just now, parasaurolophus said:

It is if you are just using it to get yourself more money and trying to make your adoring fans think it was for other reasons.

Yes, that's true. If you want to make a dubious, unsupportable claim about her motivations that seems to goes against all available evidence then you can invent any old narrative you want.

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