WR DK Metcalf, SEA (2 Viewers)

gabes1919 said:

I love Metcalf and have him everywhere but I can see where people were put off. It’s hard to have faith in a WR when we are in the post season and the man is literally still running his 3 cone drill at the combine

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lod001 said:

What kind of effort is he going to put in once he gets to the NFL. Is he going to be a student of the game or just coast along? Going to learn from Jerry Sullivan, working out with Wilson at 5:30 in the morning, etc. That's what sold me on taking him. 

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cloppbeast said:

I was very confused why he wasn't getting hyped as much during TC despite all the positive stuff about his work ethic. I wasn't on board until then either. 

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Bracie Smathers said:

Good information here concerning tall WRs and 3-cone drill.

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Hayden Winks‏ @HaydenWinks 14h14 hours ago

Re: Metcalf and his three come... Agility drills don’t really matter for big receivers, but it is decently important for small receivers. This makes sense given how big receivers are used in the NFL (vertical routes, red zone) vs. small ones (slants, near the line of scrimmage)

Hayden Winks‏ @HaydenWinks 8 Mar 2019

Not a whole lot can be learned from the short shuttle and 3-cone drill for wide receivers over 6'2. >>>>  LINK to math proof showing no  short shuttle 3-cone connection to WRs over 6'2

Hayden Winks‏ @HaydenWinks 8 Mar 2019

For WRs, the r-squared between SPARQ and PPR points per game over the rookie contract is 0.020. The SPARQ formula doesn't put enough weight into height, the forty, shuttle, or 3-cone. R-squared of just those four variables is 0.053 and with all SPARQ variables included its 0.063. >>>>   LINK graph

Hayden Winks‏ @HaydenWinks

This isn't surprising to me, but there are major differences between which NFL Combine drills matter when you separate receivers by size.

For 6'2+ receivers, the top two variables are the 10-yard split and broad jump.

For under 6'0 WRs, the top two are the shuttle and cone.

10:28 AM - 8 Mar 2019

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Manster said:

Top 3 fantasy WR next season

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Manster said:

Top 3 fantasy WR next season

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gabes1919 said:

This is too lofty. Even if he is a top 3 talent (he might be) and has the development needed to make that jump (development of Lockett and Baldwin + his work ethic say he'll get the chance), Seattle is simply not an offense that airs it out enough for him to be a top 3 guy with Lockett sitting in the slot. Top 10-12 I can see and I would lock him in for top 15 next year. Top 3 means something has gone very wrong in Seattle (RBs and Lockett all hurt) or something has gone very right (Wilson has an MVP year and leads the league's #1 offense).

Let's also remember that Dissly will be back, he had 260/4 in 5 games this year. Temper that top 3 expectation, he is at least a year away from that if it's even possible with Seattle's offensive tendencies

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Manster said:

Top 3 fantasy WR next season

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Bracie Smathers said:

Good information here concerning tall WRs and 3-cone drill.

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Hayden Winks‏ @HaydenWinks 14h14 hours ago

Re: Metcalf and his three come... Agility drills don’t really matter for big receivers, but it is decently important for small receivers. This makes sense given how big receivers are used in the NFL (vertical routes, red zone) vs. small ones (slants, near the line of scrimmage)

Hayden Winks‏ @HaydenWinks 8 Mar 2019

Not a whole lot can be learned from the short shuttle and 3-cone drill for wide receivers over 6'2. >>>>  LINK to math proof showing no  short shuttle 3-cone connection to WRs over 6'2

Hayden Winks‏ @HaydenWinks 8 Mar 2019

For WRs, the r-squared between SPARQ and PPR points per game over the rookie contract is 0.020. The SPARQ formula doesn't put enough weight into height, the forty, shuttle, or 3-cone. R-squared of just those four variables is 0.053 and with all SPARQ variables included its 0.063. >>>>   LINK graph

Hayden Winks‏ @HaydenWinks

This isn't surprising to me, but there are major differences between which NFL Combine drills matter when you separate receivers by size.

For 6'2+ receivers, the top two variables are the 10-yard split and broad jump.

For under 6'0 WRs, the top two are the shuttle and cone.

10:28 AM - 8 Mar 2019

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Hooper31 said:

I think that's a big mistake. Lockett will still be the top WR in Seattle. I don't think any Seattle WR will have a chance to be top 3 given the way their front office and coaching staff prefer to build the team and play. Pete will continue to want to run the ball and play solid defense. Yes, they're leaning on Wilson more, but that's out of necessity due to injuries, not preference. 

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Manster said:

DK is a more of a traditional #1 than Lockett.  DK is having a tremendous rookie season......that's fairly rare, and a great sign of things to come.  Top 3 may be an overreaction, I'll give you that, but top 10 is certainly attainable.......I understand the volume may not be there compared to a team like Tampa, but the Hawks are gonna use what they have, and this kid is legit.

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Hooper31 said:

3. RAC. His run after catch has been impeded by having to fall when making receptions. Not everyone can be Jerry Rice and catch a ball smoothly while in mid-sprint. Perhaps that's too difficult a standard when trying to label someone "legit". Lots of NFL receivers continue to be successful having to jump when catching a ball to better allow their hands and arms to concentrate on securing the reception. They can't all be graceful 100% of the time. I guess I can talk myself out of this point. I have seen him go to the ground after a reception as opposed to keeping his feet under himself, but the reality is that's maybe all receivers not named Rice, Largent, or Fitzgerald. Maybe I'm not being fair comparing him to gold jacket guys. 

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SWC said:

if i was this guy i would get the mets logo tatood on the back of my lower leg it would be funny cool and true that is all i am talkin about take that to the bank bromigos

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Hooper31 said:

I very much want him to be legit, but there things I need to see (not see) before I buy into that term. 
 

1. Ball security. The fumbles are a problem. He likes to try and run small DBs over, but has been careless with the ball while doing so. 

2. Hands. During the season he has let the ball get into his body too often. Would like to see him snatch the ball more with his hands. The final catch in the PHI game was an example of what we want to see more of. That was encouraging. 

3. RAC. His run after catch has been impeded by having to fall when making receptions. Not everyone can be Jerry Rice and catch a ball smoothly while in mid-sprint. Perhaps that's too difficult a standard when trying to label someone "legit". Lots of NFL receivers continue to be successful having to jump when catching a ball to better allow their hands and arms to concentrate on securing the reception. They can't all be graceful 100% of the time. I guess I can talk myself out of this point. I have seen him go to the ground after a reception as opposed to keeping his feet under himself, but the reality is that's maybe all receivers not named Rice, Largent, or Fitzgerald. Maybe I'm not being fair comparing him to gold jacket guys. 

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Manster said:

DK is the most talented pass catcher on the roster with an efficient QB who throws an excellent deep ball.....yes please!

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Hooper31 said:

I think it's fair for folks to disagree on this one. I think DK has the protypical size, but Lockett is the most talented pass catcher on this team in my opinion.

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Manster said:

Yea, in all honesty, based on his experience, I can't argue too much.  How bout most upside? Or highest ceiling?

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2) The curious case of DK Metcalf. "Workout warriors" certainly don't always become legitimate blue-chip players, but DK Metcalf's emergence as a big-play threat for the Seattle Seahawks will encourage more teams to roll the dice on the gold medalists of the NFL Scouting Combine.

While the naysayers will scoff at the connection between a workout performance and on-field production, it is hard to ignore the correlation in this instance, with Metcalf quickly becoming an unstoppable force on the perimeter. The 6-foot-4, 229-pounder not only amassed the third-most receiving yards (900) among rookie wideouts, but he just posted a 160-yard game in a spectacular playoff debut that has observers wondering why the Ole Miss product didn't earn first-round grades.

At the combine, Metcalf clocked a 4.33-second 40-yard dash while also popping an explosive vertical leap (40.5 inches) and broad jump (11-foot-2). In addition, he led all wide receivers with 27 repetitions on the bench press while displaying the physique of a superhero. Although Metcalf's three-cone time (7.38 seconds) and 20-yard shuttle time (4.50 seconds) were among the slowest of all skill players at the event, he was unquestionably one of the most explosive athletes in the building, and his solid positional workout prompted me to tout him as a possible top-10 pick in the draft.

Despite the strong overall performance on the Lucas Oil Stadium turf, Metcalf's inconsistent performance (only 67 career catches) and injury history (broken foot in 2016, season-ending neck injury in 2018) at Ole Miss led scouts to deduct points from his final score. He was deemed a "one-trick pony" (deep threat) in scouting circles, and evaluators couldn't envision him playing as a WR1 on Sundays.

"He's a 'body beautiful' kid with exceptional straight-line speed," an AFC scout told me last March. "He can stretch the field and makes plays as a vertical playmaker, but he's a limited route runner because he has a tough time stopping and changing directions. He lacks the balance and body control to run comebacks and intermediate routes. Plus, he's shown inconsistent hands.

"I love the athleticism and explosiveness, but I see him as a role player, not a star."

To the Seahawks' credit, the team has helped Metcalf succeed by placing him in a role that plays to his strengths as a dynamic straight-line athlete with explosive speed and acceleration. Studying the All-22 Coaches Film from this season, No. 14 primarily runs an assortment of vertical routes (go routes, posts and deep overs) and crossers that don't require him to stop and redirect. He can simply rely on his speed, power and athleticism to either run away from defenders or overpower them on 50-50 balls.

With Tyler Lockett entrenched as the Seahawks' WR1, Metcalf has been able to contribute as a specialist on the perimeter while learning the nuances of the position. He remains a work in progress as a route runner, but his game is becoming more refined in the NFL, and he's made strides as a consistent pass catcher. The combination of sweat equity from Metcalf and player deployment from the coaching staff has helped the rookie become an instant-impact player.

"Pete (Carroll) loves prospects with athleticism and instincts," said an NFC college director familiar with the Seahawks' draft philosophy. "He believes he can teach those guys how to play and he puts the onus on the coaches to place them in roles that will enhance their talents."

Considering Metcalf's surprising success as a rookie starter, there will be more general managers and coaches focused on identifying combine freaks with impact potential in the right scheme/developmental plan.

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Faust said:

WEIGHTS, STEAKS AND HOT TAKES: THE D.K. METCALF STORY

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DK Metcalf caught 4-of-5 targets for 59 yards in the Seahawks' Divisional round loss to the Packers.

Metcalf's fun rookie season ends with a bit of a whimper. The No. 64 overall pick back in April, Metcalf produced just two 100-yard games in his first season, but he went for at least 60 yards and/or one touchdown 13 times. He was pretty consistently productive each week as a WR3 in fantasy, finishing the regular season with 58-900-7. Metcalf isn't perfect, but the things he does do well he does extremely well. You can't teach his size and speed at 6'4/230 with 4.33 wheels. He's impossible to cover for an entire game. He can win deep and in the red zone with his leaping ability. The sky is the limit for Metcalf with Russell Wilson throwing him the ball. Metcalf will get plenty of hype for a second-year leap headed into the 2020 season.

Jan 12, 2020, 10:33 PM ET

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Don Hutson said:

"By ninth grade, Metcalf was squatting 500 pounds — the weight of approximately 30 bowling balls"

Thank goodness the author translated 500 pounds into bowling balls.  500 pounds is so difficult to understand.

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-OZ- said:

Wait, we're supposed to use 16.666 lb bowling balls? 

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4. D.K. METCALF, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

Key stat: In the Wild Card Round of the playoffs, against the Eagles, Metcalf totaled 160 receiving yards – the most ever by a rookie wide receiver in a postseason game.

Metcalf is arguably one of the most physically gifted wide receivers to ever participate in the NFL Combine. His upside was never in question. What was a question — a fairly common one — was if he could ever be a complete wide receiver, something more than a straight-line deep threat.

Across his final two seasons at Ole Miss, Metcalf totaled 71% of his yards on just two routes – the go route and the hitch. In 2019, those two routes comprised only 38% of his 900 yards. Proving he can succeed at the NFL level, and while running a more diverse route tree, it’s possible we’re still only scratching the surface of Metcalf’s true potential.

However, there might be one thing getting in his way: From Week 10 until the end of the regular season, Metcalf out-targeted Tyler Lockett 46 to 38. So, like Samuel, Metcalf could be pushing for WR1 duties in 2020. That’s historically been a hyper-efficient role in the Seattle offense, but not one that’s carried good volume. Over the past nine seasons, Seattle’s WR1 has averaged 6.32 targets per game, eclipsing 7.25 targets per game only once. For perspective, in 2019, those numbers would have ranked just 44th and 29th, respectively.

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Seahawks OC Brian Schottenheimer said he's looking to "expand" D.K. Metcalf's versatility in the passing game this upcoming season.

“The No. 1 thing that we know is that we can move him around and do different things with him," Schottenheimer said. “He kind of got stuck at the ‘X’ receiver last year. This year we know we can move him around quite a bit more. I just think the flexibility of moving him around and introducing some different route concepts that we can kind of get him up to speed on will complement the things that he’s already put on film." Metcalf was only asked to use his 4.33 40-wheels along the sideline during the first half of his rookie season but did emerge down the stretch, notably setting the rookie record for most receiving yards (160) in a playoff game in league history. It was always concerning that Metcalf would initially be asked to do too much, but he proved more than capable in his first year in the league and clearly warrants more opportunity in his sophomore follow-up. The Seahawks could still add a receiver in this year's draft given the questions surrounding their current three-wide sets.

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SOURCE: Joe Fann on Twitter

Apr 15, 2020, 5:03 PM ET

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Brandon Will said:

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DK Metcalf, Seattle Seahawks

As a rookie last year, DK Metcalf amassed 900 yards as a 15-game starter for the Seahawks. He saved his best for the end of the year, hanging 160 yards and a score on an Eagles team who passed him up in the draft during Seattle’s playoff win. 

If you don’t think he’s “verifiably good” you’ve left the plane of reasonable reality. The Seahawks kept things simple for Metcalf. The rookie receiver ran a slant or nine-route on 53.8 percent of his charted routes (per Reception Perception). That is a limited route tree — who cares?

Metcalf was dominant as a route-runner on those patterns and was productive overall. The arrow is pointing all the way up on this physically imposing, athletic receiver.

Now, Tyler Lockett should remain the No. 1 receiver in Seattle. Lockett has been underrated for several years and does everything you want in a front-line receiver. However, that doesn’t mean a 1A, 1B type of situation cannot happen here. 

The raw passing volume in Seattle will be nowhere what it was in Tampa last year to facilitate a Godwin-like breakout for Metcalf. But with a shallow pass-catching depth chart for the Seahawks, we could see a situation where Lockett and Metcalf push for 45 percent of the team’s looks, just like Mike Evans and Godwin did last year. 

Confidence meter: Very high

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DK Metcalf is ranked 24th among wide receivers after an impressive rookie season. How big of a plausible leap could he take in 2020, or will this run-first offense hold his ceiling back?

Andy: During the Wilson-Carroll era, no Seattle receiver has seen more than 125 targets in any season (Baldwin, 2016). So it’s probably not realistic to consider Metcalf (or Lockett) a serious threat to finish as the overall WR1. But Metcalf has the benefit of playing with one of the game’s most efficient and accurate passers, plus he’s a burner with 4.3-speed and exceptional strength. It’s definitely reasonable to expect him to make a leap in his second year; draft him expecting 1,000 yards and 8-10 spikes.

Scott: If Metcalf merely keeps last year’s efficiency and adds a little more opportunity and route diversity, I think everyone is happy. Of course, I’m just as pleased to draft Tyler Lockett, too. Targets from Wilson are plated in gold. I love to draft wideouts who are young but with experience; in other words, go after an established wideout heading into his second or third year.

Liz: Seeing an increase in targets from Metcalf is less important to me than seeing a variety of targets from the speedster. As Andy points out above, the likelihood of Metcalf's volume blossoming is slim. However, growth to his route tree would indicate evolution of his skill set and increased versatility. A player who can do more than one thing will, obviously, remain more valuable to the franchise, and its elite QB… thus upping the value of said looks. From Weeks 8-17, Metcalf managed a snap share of nearly 94 percent. In that time he ran an average of 28 routes, hauled in 4.2 balls, and posted 56.7 yards per contest. Assuming he picks up where he left off, a 70-950-9 stat line is well within reason. 

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Joe Fann @Joe_Fann

DK Metcalf just burned Shaquill Griffin deep in 7-on-7s. This guy is a problem.

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Pete Carroll on DK Metcalf: "He's had a great offseason and he's just so tuned in. He's just really preparing to be a great player."

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Joe Fann @Joe_Fann

Russell Wilson with two touchdowns to DK Metcalf during 7-on-7s. The second was a dime, threading the needle between two defenders.

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