even when they review calls, in the NHL or other sports, they still make a lot of mistakes. maybe just get better refs.
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Bill Brasky
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equating whining about 1st period minor penalties to an OT winner off a hand pass that set up the goal.must be because everyone just hates Boston. has to be.
wilked
Footballguy
Right
They've given up 13 goals in 3 games. They gave up 17 in the 7 game Stars series.
Refs missed one, but their D is not impressing so far this series
Bill Brasky
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there have been a ton of good long time refs that have retired in recent years. let’s not replace them with replay screens.
I'm not sure if it's all Boston fans that are like this, or just wilked.
wilked
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That's where I'm at on this. Make the refs accountable for their misses, but don't increase replay
Dickie Dunn
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My only issue with the “but what about that other missed call” crowd is that, you had a chance to overcome that mistake. Sharks fans are doing it with the Perron flip into the net (another blown one) and the “head shot” on Braun (debatable). The Blues didn’t last night. I think that was a worse blown call than the Eakin “major”, IMHO.
#RefChat
#RefChat
wilked
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I'm pretty sure I'm the only Boston fan that's ever discussed a controversial call. Take that to the bank bromingo...
wilked
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Since today appears to be focused on RefChat, here are three simple fixes to the rules I want to see in place
-Get rid of delay of game. Treat it like icing. Dumbest rule out there
-Get rid of replay on goalie interference. Replay is not helping so just stick with the on-ice calls
-Get rid of replay on off-sides. It's ridiculous to disallow a goal because there is a sliver of white behind the player's skate, and the replay slows the game down. Hate this one
-Get rid of delay of game. Treat it like icing. Dumbest rule out there
-Get rid of replay on goalie interference. Replay is not helping so just stick with the on-ice calls
-Get rid of replay on off-sides. It's ridiculous to disallow a goal because there is a sliver of white behind the player's skate, and the replay slows the game down. Hate this one
Ghost Rider
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This might be true, but how is it that a player makes a hand pass in the offensive zone and none of 4 officials sees it? It’s not like it was behind the play; it was with the puck, which you’d think at least 1 of the 4 would be watching. There’s no conspiracy; it’s just incompetence at the highest level.
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Bill Brasky
Footballguy
completely agree with 1 and 3. though puck over glass shtick can be fun sometimes. offsides replay is the worst thing to happen to hockey since Pierre McGuire.
goalie interference is about the only replay I'm good with.
gianmarco
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Ghost Rider
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AcerFC
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I usually dont care about announcers and he has always been fine, BUT, that interview with Kendall Coyne was beyond awful. So I dont like him now
AcerFC
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rockaction
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Bill Brasky
Footballguy
disagree. imo if you open that door then you end up with the nonsense we see with offsides replay where they are reviewing every puck even near a glove with ultra high def slow mo to see if they touched at an atomic level and on plays that don't even have a direct effect on the play and/or happened well before. you put it in place for the really obvious one and end up using it for all kinds of idiocy.
bad miss. tough to swallow for the Blues. but it's also pretty rare something that obvious and significant gets missed. better off just living with it imo.
gianmarco
Footballguy
delay of game penalty is dumb but whatever. there can be other ways to discourage that.
offsides reviews are the worst.
goalie interference reviews make the most sense to me, but still extremely subjective so nobody will ever be happy there.
I also hate distinct kicking motion decisions. just let people kick the damn puck in and be done with it.
offsides reviews are the worst.
goalie interference reviews make the most sense to me, but still extremely subjective so nobody will ever be happy there.
I also hate distinct kicking motion decisions. just let people kick the damn puck in and be done with it.
Bill Brasky
Footballguy
when the Stars originally offered Esa Lindell that $35 mil contact I’m assuming he fainted but it also may have been a dive. hard to say
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
I'm sure there are good uses for expanding it, but watching reviews for flagrants in NBA games does not make me want to expand replay use anywhere else. So painful. If you have to review it to know, it must not have been that flagrant.
rockaction
Footballguy
I like the delay of game call. It puts emphasis on a defenseman's skill level and takes the subjectivity out of it for the refs. You know you can't flip it over, so don't do it.
I agree with the kicking motion rule. It's tradition.
Other than that, I'm all ears on improvement.
I agree with the kicking motion rule. It's tradition.
Other than that, I'm all ears on improvement.
This could also be carried over to hand passes. Let them happen. They are already allowed in the defensive zone (I know the reason why but still) so take away the opportunity for complaining about a missed call like last night. If it isn't an issue no complaint.
brun
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JaxBill
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wilked
Footballguy
agree on this and on the kicking. Get rid of those rules and you get rid of the outrage on the calls/non-calls with them
rockaction
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gianmarco
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Franknbeans
Footballguy
that's the real question. how do not 1, not 2, not 3 but 4 refs miss that? Similar to them missing the puck go out of play in the Columbus series. Ooooof.
rockaction
Footballguy
Considering their team exists because of his imprimatur, they ought to direct it elsewhere.
One difference I see is that I don't think 1 person on the ice saw this, no ref, no Bruin and no Jacket. In the case of last night it seems everyone new - even Karlsson hesitated to initially go after the puck - except for the officials. Truly bizarre that the 4 officials all missed it.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
BS. The Bruins stopped skating when the puck magically dropped out of the air (you know, like it hit the net) and they complained immediately to the refs. Watch the replay.
I just watched it (from a few angles including one from centre ice cam) and didn't see any of the usual arm gestures. Maybe I missed it. They are similar then
Franknbeans
Footballguy
I could see the argument for the position that it may be harder to see a puck quickly go out of play and come back on the ice but again, 4 refs missed it. As for the Sharks one, there's no excuse for that crap. They should be docked pay.
Bill Brasky
Footballguy
the latest Kakko goal is soooooo nice
JaxBill
Footballguy
@StevenEllisTHN: Kaapo Kakko just scored his sixth goal of the tournament and it may be his prettiest. 1-1. #IIHFworld #NHLDraft https://twitter.com/StevenEllisTHN/status/1129102699683876868/video/1
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Thorn
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Thorn
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I agree with all of this but INSIST that we get rid of the trapezoid rule. One goalie was good at playing the puck, which gave his team an advantage; therefore, no goalies can play the puck any more. So ####### dumb.
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