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well?
enough is enough. this #### has got to stop.
enough is enough. this #### has got to stop.
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What are you talking about?Yet another example of someone who doesn't even know what a semi-automatic weapon is but lashes out at others. Yeah dude hundreds of thousands of people have used a semi-auto weapons to protect themselves. They've been around since the late 1800s.
So yes, literally every single day someone uses a semi automatic weapon to defend themselves, their family, and in the past has used them to fight against government oppression. Theyre also good for shooting coyotes and blowing stuff up.
Are you drunk?What are you talking about?
i know what a semi automatic weapon is.
“hundreds of thousands of people have used a semi-auto weapons to protect themselves. They've been around since the late 1800s.”
The question I asked, was for those of us that are not vampires. Aka, have not been around since the 1800’s I also clarified, not while on military deployment
“literally every single day someone uses a semi automatic weapon to defend themselves, their family, ”
literally? Every single day? Someone uses a semi automatic weapon, to defend themselves? Their families?
SOMEONE ALERT CNN!!!!
seriously. What are you talking about?
“literally every single day someone uses a semi automatic weapon to defend themselves, their family, ”
literally? Every single day? Someone uses a semi automatic weapon, to defend themselves? Their families?
SOMEONE ALERT CNN!!!!
seriously. What are you talking about?
The most comprehensive study ever conducted about defensive gun use in the United States was a 1995 survey published by criminologist Gary Kleck in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology. This study reported between 2.1 and 2.5 million defensive gun uses every year.
[*]According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of gun self-defense every year.
[*]As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse
[*]Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year
I’m not sure where that line should be drawn but 30 certainly seems excessive to me.Please fix title and pole....
Maybe something like "do we really need guns with capacity for 30 rounds and higher?"
Just nastyI have three guns, which is the most dangerous,
.12 gauge Pump
30/30 lever
.380 Semi- Auto
Depends how far away you want to be dangerousI have three guns, which is the most dangerous,
.12 gauge Pump
30/30 lever
.380 Semi- Auto
Well we've had since November 2016 and guns haven't done squat so far. When are the guns going to get rid of our corrupt government?Guns are legal to protect ourselves against a corrupt government. Wake up.
Not arguing for or against, but this, to me, is one of those weird arguments. If some crazy person is going to go on a shooting spree, he can carry another magazine very easily. So if the intention is to limit victims, I just don't think it's really a huge difference.For advocates... Is ten enough?
If not...why not?
Fwiw, I'm not making an argument.Not arguing for or against, but this, to me, is one of those weird arguments. If some crazy person is going to go on a shooting spree, he can carry another magazine very easily. So if the intention is to limit victims, I just don't think it's really a huge difference.
Now, I'm not talking about the huge magazines. But when I see people arguing to lower them from 15 to 10, I don't think that's doing anything other than making people feel good inside.
Yes. One time 29 bad hombres were coming at me.well?
enough is enough. this #### has got to stop.
One life would be a huge difference for that person and his/her loved ones. I don't know where this number of rounds should be, but I'll take a small number of spared lives over none.Not arguing for or against, but this, to me, is one of those weird arguments. If some crazy person is going to go on a shooting spree, he can carry another magazine very easily. So if the intention is to limit victims, I just don't think it's really a huge difference.
Now, I'm not talking about the huge magazines. But when I see people arguing to lower them from 15 to 10, I don't think that's doing anything other than making people feel good inside.
If the person has to change magazines, that produces a moment when there is no shooting, which may allow someone to escape or for someone to get to them before the shooting restarts.Not arguing for or against, but this, to me, is one of those weird arguments. If some crazy person is going to go on a shooting spree, he can carry another magazine very easily. So if the intention is to limit victims, I just don't think it's really a huge difference.
Now, I'm not talking about the huge magazines. But when I see people arguing to lower them from 15 to 10, I don't think that's doing anything other than making people feel good inside.
If he has magazines that are already filled, switching between and empty and full one would take a matter of seconds. My point is I don't think it's that big of a change that would lessen tragedies.If the person has to change magazines, that produces a moment when there is no shooting, which may allow someone to escape or for someone to get to them before the shooting restarts.
Less than a 50 Cal belt.Fwiw, I'm not making an argument.
I'm trying to understand why these magazines are needed and how many rounds in one is enough.
In all honesty, a decently trained person can change a mag faster than most people could run out to safety. Assuming they even knew the person has to change mags.If the person has to change magazines, that produces a moment when there is no shooting, which may allow someone to escape or for someone to get to them before the shooting restarts.
The Dayton shooting took all of 32 seconds. Seconds can matter a great deal.If he has magazines that are already filled, switching between and empty and full one would take a matter of seconds. My point is I don't think it's that big of a change that would lessen tragedies.
Starting with the OP right?Lotsa people don't know the definition of "need".
Sure.Lotsa people don't know the definition of "need".
I'm not a gun person, and don't know what this means.Less than a 50 Cal belt.Fwiw, I'm not making an argument.
I'm trying to understand why these magazines are needed and how many rounds in one is enough.
magazines hold and feed the bullets into the gun.I'm not a gun person, and don't know what this means.
magazines are needed to be able to fire as many rounds as possible- correct?
I'm trying to understand in what circumstances needing as many rounds as possible is needed, and from there- how many rounds would be enough.
so they're convenient for use at the range. I assume without the magazine, you'd have to manually load the bullets into the gun after shooting them all?magazines hold and feed the bullets into the gun.I'm not a gun person, and don't know what this means.
magazines are needed to be able to fire as many rounds as possible- correct?
I'm trying to understand in what circumstances needing as many rounds as possible is needed, and from there- how many rounds would be enough.
a magazine can hold 5 bullets, or in the Dayton example a drum of 100 bullets.
enough for what?
that 100 round drum would sure be convenient at the range assuming i can still hold the gun normally.
If he has magazines that are already filled, switching between and empty and full one would take a matter of seconds. My point is I don't think it's that big of a change that would lessen tragedies.
I realize we aren't talking about hours, but a split second can always help.Less than a 50 Cal belt.
In all honesty, a decently trained person can change a mag faster than most people could run out to safety. Assuming they even knew the person has to change mags.
not getting in any pee'ing contest here but I would like to see the hard data on the above bolded/underlined.Yet another example of someone who doesn't even know what a semi-automatic weapon is but lashes out at others. Yeah dude hundreds of thousands of people have used a semi-auto weapons to protect themselves. They've been around since the late 1800s.
So yes, literally every single day someone uses a semi automatic weapon to defend themselves, their family, and in the past has used them to fight against government oppression. Theyre also good for shooting coyotes and blowing stuff up.
For me, at the range, I like to shoot more and swap less.so they're convenient for use at the range. I assume without the magazine, you'd have to manually load the bullets into the gun after shooting them all?
any other use or need where having maximum capacity is required? I assume people use semi-automatic rifles to hunt? how many rounds are needed for that before reloading? or for the farmer/coyote example?
enough for... dunno. that's what I'm trying to understand.
I think the shooter in the Gabby Giffords attack was stopped when he had to reload.Less than a 50 Cal belt.
In all honesty, a decently trained person can change a mag faster than most people could run out to safety. Assuming they even knew the person has to change mags.
I did the same with hookers and blow ...but that doesn't mean I expect them to be legal.Used three of them this weekend and had a great time.
huh, I don't know much about the research or funding behind these, but I would have to question how this is obtained and the validity of it. not saying it is false, I just think I would like to see more. Living in a heavily populated area like Philadelphia, these stats even seem off for me. there is plenty of crime here in the city, and I don't know anyone who uses a gun for self defense. my buddies who have moved to the burbs and have maybe 1 home robbery a year are the one's I know who have guns for self defense. these numbers seem way off from my daily living, so maybe it is vastly different across the country?Actually several times per day:
The most comprehensive study ever conducted about defensive gun use in the United States was a 1995 survey published by criminologist Gary Kleck in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology. This study reported between 2.1 and 2.5 million defensive gun uses every year.
According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of gun self-defense every year.
As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse
Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year