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Ⅿ- Mandalorian Series! (1 Viewer)

Capella said:
The show is fun. It’s meant to be a western serial with a heavy wink to Star Wars nostalgia. It’s not supposed to be Breaking Bad or The Leftovers. I know we live in this golden age of tv but sometimes a show can just be dumb fun imo. 
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I agree. I do hope they pick up the main plot soon though.

 
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KarmaPolice said:
Is random person on internet not giving the show a 10/10 either prohibiting you guys from watching it or liking the show when you do watch it?  :confused:
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After years in the walking dead thread where these kinds of posts popped up semiregularly, I get the sense it's less about a criticism or two than it is about an avalanche of criticism...where posters seem to enjoy hate watching the show just to come into the thread and slam it.

That the show deserves the slamming becomes irrelevent- it's more about the tone, number and disregard for the parts that still work. I think. I doubt they're expecting people to not notice all the stuff that sucks...I guess just have some balance when talking about it. I like the universe, so I've still hung on for that and the short length in spite of everything that doesn't work. If I keep watching, I'll work harder to to try find something positive to say along with anything that bothers me (I think I've mentioned the terribly done juvenile writing enough)... I'm sure the "it's not supposed to be good, just enjoy it for what it is" people will live.

 
El Floppo said:
After years in the walking dead thread where these kinds of posts popped up semiregularly, I get the sense it's less about a criticism or two than it is about an avalanche of criticism...where posters seem to enjoy hate watching the show just to come into the thread and slam it.

That the show deserves the slamming becomes irrelevent- it's more about the tone, number and disregard for the parts that still work. I think. I doubt they're expecting people to not notice all the stuff that sucks...I guess just have some balance when talking about it. I like the universe, so I've still hung on for that and the short length in spite of everything that doesn't work. If I keep watching, I'll work harder to to try find something positive to say along with anything that bothers me (I think I've mentioned the terribly done juvenile writing enough)... I'm sure the "it's not supposed to be good, just enjoy it for what it is" people will live.
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I, for one, welcome the criticism.  First off, I didn't write this show, so I don't take offense to any of the criticism.  Secondly, I don't need others to enjoy something for me to enjoy it.

But most importantly, by hearing what others have to say, I feel like I get more out of it.  Even the shows I love to death, I still have some complaints about.  Nothing is perfect.  Well, except me.  But honestly, there are sometimes I come close to making mistakes.  

I don't think the writing is that bad.  I think they are trying to walk the line of a kid show and an adult show.  It can't be too complicated, but can't be too simple.  And it also has to impress the hard core nerd and the casual viewer.  No other show has to do that.  

Side note, I have 3 more episodes to rewatch of the Mandalorian's history.  The more I watch, the more I think we're going to see someone wielding the Darksaber by the end of this season.  Possibly whoever's legs we saw at the end of the this last episode? 

 
El Floppo said:
After years in the walking dead thread where these kinds of posts popped up semiregularly, I get the sense it's less about a criticism or two than it is about an avalanche of criticism...where posters seem to enjoy hate watching the show just to come into the thread and slam it.

That the show deserves the slamming becomes irrelevent- it's more about the tone, number and disregard for the parts that still work. I think. I doubt they're expecting people to not notice all the stuff that sucks...I guess just have some balance when talking about it. I like the universe, so I've still hung on for that and the short length in spite of everything that doesn't work. If I keep watching, I'll work harder to to try find something positive to say along with anything that bothers me (I think I've mentioned the terribly done juvenile writing enough)... I'm sure the "it's not supposed to be good, just enjoy it for what it is" people will live.
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I just find it a little amusing that some of the posters that are getting the crankiest about people focusing on the negative of the show are also focusing on the few negative things that a person in here have said about the show, ignoring any positive or ignoring other shows that poster loves.  

Like you said, I grew up on and love this universe so I will probably give it a longer leash than I would other shows.  I am just surprised with only 8 episodes that it feels like they are spinning their wheels with the story and going back to the some version of ship breaks/help random people/leave behind the baby already.  

 
TheIronSheik said:
I don't think the writing is that bad.  I think they are trying to walk the line of a kid show and an adult show.  It can't be too complicated, but can't be too simple.  And it also has to impress the hard core nerd and the casual viewer.  No other show has to do that.  
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I don't think they are unique in this.  I guess maybe not too many TV shows have to try, but I think a lot of properties successfully straddle that line.   I think Marvel does it, and but maybe leans slightly more on the adult side.  Pixar does it, but leans more to the kid side.  For money sake, it feels like most properties want to be in that PG to PG-13 range.   All the Star Wars movies and shows have no problem operating within these parameters.  I don't think that is the criticism that I see floating around in here about the show.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
I am just surprised with only 8 episodes that it feels like they are spinning their wheels with the story and going back to the some version of ship breaks/help random people/leave behind the baby already.  
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I would say I don't feel like they are spinning their wheels.  I like the pace.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
I don't think they are unique in this.  I guess maybe not too many TV shows have to try, but I think a lot of properties successfully straddle that line.   I think Marvel does it, and but maybe leans slightly more on the adult side.  Pixar does it, but leans more to the kid side.  For money sake, it feels like most properties want to be in that PG to PG-13 range.   All the Star Wars movies and shows have no problem operating within these parameters.  I don't think that is the criticism that I see floating around in here about the show.  
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Yes, to the bolded.  But I was saying all three of those things are what makes it unique.  

 
TheIronSheik said:
I would say I don't feel like they are spinning their wheels.  I like the pace.  
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That's where we disagree, GB.  I love the mystery of the Mandalorian and WTF the yodaling are and who are after them.  Seems like they are dragging that a ton in lieu of these "mission of the week" type episodes and just making sure we are hitting on all the familiar beats of Jawas, desert planets, etc.  .  JMO though.    I get filler episodes like the last two for a network show that has to fill 20+ hours of content, just a little surprised that we are doing it right away for a show that only has 4-5 hours to fill.  

Like you keep pointing out - this is S1 and let's see where this goes, especially knowing that S2 is going.  

 
I don't mind it if people find fault with the show. What I have a problem with is when people only find fault in the show. At that point, you have to ask yourself, why continue to watch?  Because continuing to watch says a lot about someone. 

 
KarmaPolice said:
That's where we disagree, GB.  I love the mystery of the Mandalorian and WTF the yodaling are and who are after them.  Seems like they are dragging that a ton in lieu of these "mission of the week" type episodes and just making sure we are hitting on all the familiar beats of Jawas, desert planets, etc.  .  JMO though.    I get filler episodes like the last two for a network show that has to fill 20+ hours of content, just a little surprised that we are doing it right away for a show that only has 4-5 hours to fill.  

Like you keep pointing out - this is S1 and let's see where this goes, especially knowing that S2 is going.  
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Yup.  And that's totally cool, GB.  I accept that it might not be good to everyone.  But I'm definitely liking it and the pace so far.  

 
TheFanatic said:
I don't mind it if people find fault with the show. What I have a problem with is when people only find fault in the show. At that point, you have to ask yourself, why continue to watch?  Because continuing to watch says a lot about someone. 
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I don't like when people don't watch the show but come into a thread and talk bad about it.  That's when it gets annoying to me.  But I have no problem with people complaining.  My wife says it's my greatest trait.

 
TheIronSheik said:
I don't like when people don't watch the show but come into a thread and talk bad about it.  That's when it gets annoying to me.  But I have no problem with people complaining.  My wife says it's my greatest trait.
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HA! That might even be worse than the hate watchers. 

 
TheIronSheik said:
I don't like when people don't watch the show but come into a thread and talk bad about it.  That's when it gets annoying to me.  But I have no problem with people complaining.  My wife says it's my greatest trait.
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I have no problem with criticism either as a general matter. But being among the most frequent posters in a thread about a show you don’t like isn’t fantastic.

 
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thecatch said:
I have no problem with criticism either as a general matter. But being among the most frequent posters in a thread about a show you don’t like isn’t fantastic.
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I get that but would they have as many posts if they were actually posting new observations about the show, instead of replying to accusations that they are posting more than they should be or demanding that they defend what they have already defended?  I mean, if we drew a reply tree for these posters, how many new topics would there be really?  I'm guessing no more than one new post per episode, with a lot of replies to oddly defensive fanboys filling the rest of their post content.  Which is somewhat ironic, perhaps.

 
It seems like many people crave popular, complex shows that are open to discussion and theories. There aren’t many shows that can fill that niche. Mr. Robot is probably the closest to that right now although it’s nearing the end and isn’t overly popular. Also with some shows releasing full seasons all at once, it further limits the number of shows with potential for good, weekly discussion among serious viewers. For The Mandalorian, there isn’t a lot to discuss on week-to-week basis, which isn’t something I need, but I could see why some want that.

 
So bets on the caped mystery person checking out the dead body at the end. Boba Fett, Imperial Governor Moff Gideon (Giancarlo Esposito), or someone different? 

 
Considering starting this, wife likes GOT stuff at least.  Otherwise gonna be hard to squeeze this in.  Wives like this or nah?

 
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Why do you think there is a "main plot"?   Why do people think these are "filler" episodes?

It seems like they have created the A-Team in outer space.   A lot of overthinking happening here.  
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I agree 100%.  Not sure why people think this is a Battlestar Galactica reboot.  The main plot is the Mandalorian kicks ### (is half man half Delorean), Mandalore has some cool back story stuff that will spool out, bounty hunters and the guild are a thing (I'm sure we'll learn more as we go but don't expect this to be some huge a-hah), whatever's left of the Empire will eventually morph into the Third Order (unfortunately, but it seems we have to live with that drivel so whatever), and there's a freaking baby Yoda who's first word will come after his second.

Did I mention every week we get to watch the Mandalorian kick ### in an old Western style plot in the exceptionally well represented Star Wars universe?  PLUS we get a cute baby Yoda?

I mean, I don't know what else these other people are expecting but this is quite enough to scratch my quite substantial Star Wars itch.

 
-fish- said:
Why do you think there is a "main plot"?   Why do people think these are "filler" episodes?

It seems like they have created the A-Team in outer space.   A lot of overthinking happening here.  
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Interesting theory. I think we're conditioned lately that all shows have some form of plot and based on Filonis previous work with TCW and Rebels, you'd think we would get to that. You could be right though.

 
For those wondering about a long term plot, here is what Favreau said about it this week:

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"I’m putting a lot of effort working with Dave Filoni to figure out what the overarching story is and the story line for all these characters and what the world is like. We want to make sure that we have a road map, because we’re also a puzzle piece that fits into a larger Star Wars universe that has a lot of other movies and a lot of other projects, and we want to make sure we’re consistent with them."

"We have a good 25-year patch of road [in the Star Wars canon] that nobody is exploring right now, and it’s the most interesting time for me as a storyteller to explore — the time after the fall of the empire and before the resurgence of the darker forces."

 
NewlyRetired said:
For those wondering about a long term plot, here is what Favreau said about it this week:

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"I’m putting a lot of effort working with Dave Filoni to figure out what the overarching story is and the story line for all these characters and what the world is like. We want to make sure that we have a road map, because we’re also a puzzle piece that fits into a larger Star Wars universe that has a lot of other movies and a lot of other projects, and we want to make sure we’re consistent with them."

"We have a good 25-year patch of road [in the Star Wars canon] that nobody is exploring right now, and it’s the most interesting time for me as a storyteller to explore — the time after the fall of the empire and before the resurgence of the darker forces."
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Wait, so they are putting effort into figuring out the overarching story after they started filming S2?  

 
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-fish- said:
Why do you think there is a "main plot"?   Why do people think these are "filler" episodes?

It seems like they have created the A-Team in outer space.   A lot of overthinking happening here.  
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:lmao:

great call

 
Psychopav said:
I agree 100%.  Not sure why people think this is a Battlestar Galactica reboot.  The main plot is the Mandalorian kicks ### (is half man half Delorean), Mandalore has some cool back story stuff that will spool out, bounty hunters and the guild are a thing (I'm sure we'll learn more as we go but don't expect this to be some huge a-hah), whatever's left of the Empire will eventually morph into the Third Order (unfortunately, but it seems we have to live with that drivel so whatever), and there's a freaking baby Yoda who's first word will come after his second.

Did I mention every week we get to watch the Mandalorian kick ### in an old Western style plot in the exceptionally well represented Star Wars universe?  PLUS we get a cute baby Yoda?

I mean, I don't know what else these other people are expecting but this is quite enough to scratch my quite substantial Star Wars itch.
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Besides the time he got his ### handed to him by some Jawas ? ;)

 
Psychopav said:
I agree 100%.  Not sure why people think this is a Battlestar Galactica reboot.  The main plot is the Mandalorian kicks ### (is half man half Delorean), Mandalore has some cool back story stuff that will spool out, bounty hunters and the guild are a thing (I'm sure we'll learn more as we go but don't expect this to be some huge a-hah), whatever's left of the Empire will eventually morph into the Third Order (unfortunately, but it seems we have to live with that drivel so whatever), and there's a freaking baby Yoda who's first word will come after his second.

Did I mention every week we get to watch the Mandalorian kick ### in an old Western style plot in the exceptionally well represented Star Wars universe?  PLUS we get a cute baby Yoda?

I mean, I don't know what else these other people are expecting but this is quite enough to scratch my quite substantial Star Wars itch.
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This is a huge Dad Joke.  My parents came up for Thanksgiving and at age 76, pops rattled this one off when he saw the title.  :lol:

 
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