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[regularguy]

Junior's Executive Card Game has fallen on hard times.

"Red Buttons"

 

[The Gator]

This was NOT about one joke.

It was also about Paulie in general, and being a loud mouth, no? I mean that was the reason for the turrets comment right?

 

[Frank Costanza's Lawyer]

I don't disagree. But I still just don't see enough motive. Paulie has always been Paulie. Tony knows that. So why now is it a problem? Just more paranoia.

The arrest last episode. The body scare this episode.Paulie was a potential liability.

 

[Capella]

http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/img/homepage/s...img_ep80_01.jpg

bad-###

 

[PC Load Letter]

The Chinese kid who attacked Junior... I KNOW I've seen him in a movie somewhere.Any help???

He was one of the bad guys in Rush Hour.

He was the dude with the spikes (Kid Omega) in X-Men 3.

 

[Capella]

I gotta say, that conversation Paulie and Beansie had at the dinner table was way out of line. You'd think Paulie would know not to say things like "mysteriously disappeared" when talking around outsiders. That waiter pouring the wine could've been anybody.

 

[packersfan]

Nice to see Big ##### again.

 

[Morton Muffley]

Hey, maybe I'm seeing things, but I could swear that after the Doc hit that we were quickly shown a pair of white shoes at the scene. Can someone with TIVO confirm?

And if so, are we to believe that Paulie was at that hit?

 

[GotFingNoDukes]

Thought tonight's was great. Junior giving the prof a shot in the pills, Paulie: "Chevy Chase...what ever happened to him?", 3's Company...great stuff.

 

[Butch]

I agree with Gator here. Tony seems to either kill someone when it makes sense logically or when he snaps ala Ralphie. This scenario was neither. I think Tony recognized his paranoia for what it was. While I was tense and unsure, I just didn't believe it was going to happen. Then again, I didn't want to believe that it'd happen.

I don't think Tony's being paranoid. He has great instincts and just last week spoke to Melfi about how he's learned to trust his subconscious. He's probably right that Chris is carrying some deep-seated hatred about his solo excursion with Aide. (Although writing Cleaver was likely cathartic enough to prevent Chris from ever acting on it) He's also clearly correct in broaching the question of whether Paulie could stand the heat at this point in his life given that Paulie had that very dream. (The troubled Paulie then goes straight into the strong body, strong mind weight-lifting mode to steel himself) His henchmen are still more likely to stay loyal than not, but Tony has a dead-on read about exactly where cracks exist in the family structure.Also, look at how Tony put a perfect read on JT and knew just how to exact his psychological revenge on Bobby. Tony's instincts are at their peak and he may even have a psychic like feel for an upcoming downfall which has him searching for the flash point.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Tony checked in to the hotel using "Mr Spears."

Anyone care to guess when he last used that pseudonym?

Although I can't say for 100% sure, I'm pretty sure it was during that comatose Kevin Finnerty stuff.

I don't believe he used another name other than Kevin Finnerty during S6, part 1.He used "Mr. Spears" when Melfi would not see him anymore after she had to go on the lamb, and he consulted that fruity male doctor who said he's seen Analyze This and he wasn't taking on any new patients.

I believe he used it checking into the Plaza when he and Carm were on the rocks. I think it's his regular alias.

 

[PatsWillWin]

"'Remember when?' is the lowest form of conversation."

 

[El Floppo]

I agree with Gator here. Tony seems to either kill someone when it makes sense logically or when he snaps ala Ralphie. This scenario was neither. I think Tony recognized his paranoia for what it was. While I was tense and unsure, I just didn't believe it was going to happen. Then again, I didn't want to believe that it'd happen.

I don't think Tony's being paranoid. He has great instincts and just last week spoke to Melfi about how he's learned to trust his subconscious. He's probably right that Chris is carrying some deep-seated hatred about his solo excursion with Aide. (Although writing Cleaver was likely cathartic enough to prevent Chris from ever acting on it) He's also clearly correct in broaching the question of whether Paulie could stand the heat at this point in his life given that Paulie had that very dream. (The troubled Paulie then goes straight into the strong body, strong mind weight-lifting mode to steel himself) His henchmen are still more likely to stay loyal than not, but Tony has a dead-on read about exactly where cracks exist in the family structure.Also, look at how Tony put a perfect read on JT and knew just how to exact his psychological revenge on Bobby. Tony's instincts are at their peak and he may even have a psychic like feel for an upcoming downfall which has him searching for the flash point.

:X Every episode for me has been about showing Tony/us the house of cards he's surrounded by and highlighting each wobbly foundation. Bobby, Janice, Chris, Jr, Paulie, NY family- the writers/directors seem like they're making a point in showing the motivation that each one could have in being knocked off and/or taking Tony down. With-what, 7 episodes? left, they're going to have to start setting things in motion pretty soon.

 

[pricklypete]

also sounded like Tony was in the hole for 200 large with his NFL games right?

We don't know for sure, but he obviously took a beating.They showed him betting 5 dimes each last week on three NFL teams. It's funny, because back when Markazian was into Big #### for $30,000, Silvio said to Tony "I hate to think what we'd do to erase that kind of debt" (or something along those lines)... and Tony said "I wouldn't bet football!"

I wondered if Tony was really down all that money at betting or if he just needed some cash in general. Seems like there's been references to business not being so good lately.

Gambling.

By watching the last two episodes and the previews for next week, I think we see that Tony is losing major money through gambling.

I could be way off, but I think Tony isn't happy unless there is some sort of conflict dragging him down. Happy may not be the best word, but I think you know what I mean.

Tony mentioned that things were going really good. He is not used to that. With his personality, he needs some sort of chaos (subconciously) and I think his degenerative gambling thing is filling that void.

 

[Wooderson]

"'Remember when?' is the lowest form of conversation."

 

[heckmanm]

Thought tonight's was great. Junior giving the prof a shot in the pills, Paulie: "Chevy Chase...what ever happened to him?", 3's Company...great stuff.

Paulie referring to Beansie as a "stand up guy" was classic.

 

[regularguy]

Hey, maybe I'm seeing things, but I could swear that after the Doc hit that we were quickly shown a pair of white shoes at the scene. Can someone with TIVO confirm?And if so, are we to believe that Paulie was at that hit?

I noticed that too and wondered the same thing. Now, getting involved in that would definitely not be good for Paulie's health, but it'd be pretty out of the blue too.

 

[Please See Mine]

I could be way off, but I think Tony isn't happy unless there is some sort of conflict dragging him down. Happy may not be the best word, but I think you know what I mean. Tony mentioned that things were going really good. He is not used to that. With his personality, he needs some sort of chaos (subconciously) and I think his degenerative gambling thing is filling that void.

I forget what that term was that Melfi brought up about anti-social personalities with a condition similar to sharks, who can't stop moving, but it would be applicable here. Note how he brought up Harpo to Janice in season 5 when things were going so great for him. Also, in seasons 2 and 4 he was told to pull back from his activities and he went a little crazy from boredom.

 

[Please See Mine]

Thought tonight's was great. Junior giving the prof a shot in the pills, Paulie: "Chevy Chase...what ever happened to him?", 3's Company...great stuff.

Paulie referring to Beansie as a "stand up guy" was classic.

And you thought the Germans were classless pieces of ####!

 

[regularguy]

I agree with Gator here. Tony seems to either kill someone when it makes sense logically or when he snaps ala Ralphie. This scenario was neither. I think Tony recognized his paranoia for what it was. While I was tense and unsure, I just didn't believe it was going to happen. Then again, I didn't want to believe that it'd happen.

I don't think Tony's being paranoid. He has great instincts and just last week spoke to Melfi about how he's learned to trust his subconscious. He's probably right that Chris is carrying some deep-seated hatred about his solo excursion with Aide. (Although writing Cleaver was likely cathartic enough to prevent Chris from ever acting on it) He's also clearly correct in broaching the question of whether Paulie could stand the heat at this point in his life given that Paulie had that very dream. (The troubled Paulie then goes straight into the strong body, strong mind weight-lifting mode to steel himself) His henchmen are still more likely to stay loyal than not, but Tony has a dead-on read about exactly where cracks exist in the family structure.Also, look at how Tony put a perfect read on JT and knew just how to exact his psychological revenge on Bobby. Tony's instincts are at their peak and he may even have a psychic like feel for an upcoming downfall which has him searching for the flash point.

But I still didn't see Tony having enough internal support to make the preemptive move. Obviously, he didn't either. I'm sure we'll be seeing more in the future with regards to Paulie's actions or Tony's handling of Paulie related to this episode.On a related note, have they ever given us any indication of Tony EVER questioning or doubting Sil?

 

[Raider Nation]

Tony checked in to the hotel using "Mr Spears."

Anyone care to guess when he last used that pseudonym?

Although I can't say for 100% sure, I'm pretty sure it was during that comatose Kevin Finnerty stuff.

I don't believe he used another name other than Kevin Finnerty during S6, part 1.He used "Mr. Spears" when Melfi would not see him anymore after she had to go on the lamb, and he consulted that fruity male doctor who said he's seen Analyze This and he wasn't taking on any new patients.

I believe he used it checking into the Plaza when he and Carm were on the rocks.

Negative.

 

[Raider Nation]

Junior's Executive Card Game has fallen on hard times. :X

"Red Buttons"

"I have a flush.""No you don't." :X

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Horrible episode. Too much BS to get a little tension and one guy killed. THey go from one of the best episodes in years to this?

a little tension? that's like saying tony's a little fat. the whole episode, and this season has revolved around tony losing faith in his crew and seeing things he probably shouldn't be seeing. he's slipping as a leader, and he's never done that -- he's lost trust in his guys and that's all leading down the road to where this thing ends.

can't believe anybody would take so little out of that episode.

Did you think Paulie would get whacked for maybe telling Sack about the Ginny joke? I didn't.

I absolutely think Tony was thisclose to killing him on the boat. You could see the look of anguish on his face, trying to get the courage/balls to do the deed. It wasn't JUST for the Ginny comment. The whole episode was a demonstration of how Paulie can't keep his mouth shut. That's bad for business, bad for staying out of jail, and bad for trying to keep a happy home.

I think it was more about Tony seeing Paulie as a washed-up has-been, and Tony subconsciously doesn't want to end up like that himself. And Paulie was getting on his last nerve. But I would have been PISSED if he'd killed Paulie. I just don't see enough logic and support for it.

Maybe this is where i'm at. I think it takes more than a joke to get Paulie killed.

You watched the episode tonight, yes?

I agree with Gator here. Tony seems to either kill someone when it makes sense logically or when he snaps ala Ralphie. This scenario was neither. I think Tony recognized his paranoia for what it was. While I was tense and unsure, I just didn't believe it was going to happen. Then again, I didn't want to believe that it'd happen.

I respectfully submit that you are both missing the point.This was NOT about one joke.

Exactly. Tony is/was worried about Paulie running his mouth so much. The entire episode revolved around Paulie saying #### he shouldnt be saying to outsiders. When talking with Beansie Tony, after saying how great a guy Paulie really is, asks whether "he has ever been put to the test." The answer was no, so Tony took him out on the boat. Paulie knew something was awry so the mental stress was there. Paulie admits as much when he tells Tony he does the "heh heh heh" when he is nervous. Tony KNOWS Paulie told Johnny Sac about the joke. He was testing Paulie to see if when under pressure he would unravel.

 

[WJH]

I think there are an awful lot of loose ends to tie up before the season's end. Hopefully they will get on track in the upcoming episodes. I think that may be about it for Junior.

 

[packersfan]

Horrible episode. Too much BS to get a little tension and one guy killed. THey go from one of the best episodes in years to this?

a little tension? that's like saying tony's a little fat. the whole episode, and this season has revolved around tony losing faith in his crew and seeing things he probably shouldn't be seeing. he's slipping as a leader, and he's never done that -- he's lost trust in his guys and that's all leading down the road to where this thing ends.

can't believe anybody would take so little out of that episode.

Did you think Paulie would get whacked for maybe telling Sack about the Ginny joke? I didn't.

I absolutely think Tony was thisclose to killing him on the boat. You could see the look of anguish on his face, trying to get the courage/balls to do the deed. It wasn't JUST for the Ginny comment. The whole episode was a demonstration of how Paulie can't keep his mouth shut. That's bad for business, bad for staying out of jail, and bad for trying to keep a happy home.

I think it was more about Tony seeing Paulie as a washed-up has-been, and Tony subconsciously doesn't want to end up like that himself. And Paulie was getting on his last nerve. But I would have been PISSED if he'd killed Paulie. I just don't see enough logic and support for it.

Maybe this is where i'm at. I think it takes more than a joke to get Paulie killed.

You watched the episode tonight, yes?

I agree with Gator here. Tony seems to either kill someone when it makes sense logically or when he snaps ala Ralphie. This scenario was neither. I think Tony recognized his paranoia for what it was. While I was tense and unsure, I just didn't believe it was going to happen. Then again, I didn't want to believe that it'd happen.

I respectfully submit that you are both missing the point.This was NOT about one joke.

Exactly. Tony is/was worried about Paulie running his mouth so much. The entire episode revolved around Paulie saying #### he shouldnt be saying to outsiders. When talking with Beansie Tony, after saying how great a guy Paulie really is, asks whether "he has ever been put to the test." The answer was no, so Tony took him out on the boat. Paulie knew something was awry so the mental stress was there. Paulie admits as much when he tells Tony he does the "heh heh heh" when he is nervous. Tony KNOWS Paulie told Johnny Sac about the joke. He was testing Paulie to see if when under pressure he would unravel.

And the episode ends with Paulie yammering away in the background and you can see Tony knows he's in it until the end with this guy at this point.

 

[Kiddnets]

I love the set up - Tony has never been in more conflict with his crew. Chris resents him and Paulie is a blabber mouth - both very bad for business. Also Tony is losing money - Paulie is not earning - Phil takes over in NY. You can feel the walls starting to close in on Tony.

I think this was Junior's swan song as well - his last scene - a beaten old man who couldn't protect himself or fight against the powers. He is a shell of himself.

 

[Capella]

I think this was Junior's swan song as well - his last scene - a beaten old man who couldn't protect himself or fight against the powers. He is a shell of himself.

yea, maybe it was. I was hoping he would die in some way for a little bit of closure there, but I suppose it doesn't matter. I thought a final scene between him and Tony would've been emotional.

 

[Alias]

Pardon my ignorance but are we to assume it is NY (Leotardo) that is ordering the killing off of all of the potential NY figureheads? Or could someone in NJ have anything to do with it? Also does Miami = NY or is Miami an island onto itself?

 

[pricklypete]

I love the set up - Tony has never been in more conflict with his crew. Chris resents him and Paulie is a blabber mouth - both very bad for business. Also Tony is losing money - Paulie is not earning - Phil takes over in NY. You can feel the walls starting to close in on Tony. I think this was Junior's swan song as well - his last scene - a beaten old man who couldn't protect himself or fight against the powers. He is a shell of himself.

Paulie is still earning.What Tony said last night was about Paulie not having enough documented, legitimate income.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Another question - who exactly was it that was talking to the cops about the dead bookie?

And how exactly would they have pinned a murder 25 years old on Tony? You would need more than an ID'd body and a snitch (unless he was a witness - but I don't think that was implied).

 

[pricklypete]

Pardon my ignorance but are we to assume it is NY (Leotardo) that is ordering the killing off of all of the potential NY figureheads? Or could someone in NJ have anything to do with it? Also does Miami = NY or is Miami an island onto itself?

Doc took out the hairdo.Phil took out Doc.NJ doesn't have anything to do with it this time.I don't think NY has any dibs on all of Miami. Free market.

 

[Kraft...]

I hope this episode is the last one they waste on Junior's character. It's going nowhere. Who cares how it got there. Maybe they wrote themselves into a corner having him shoot Tony. Regardless, the time they spend on him now is boring.

Totally agree, last nights episode was solid minus the Junior stuff IMO.

 

[Dave Baker]

Although I was a little let down after the two previous exciting episodes, this is still great stuff.

We've seen the last of Junior. He knew he was done when he peed his pants.

The walls are coming down around Tony. The end is near.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I love the set up - Tony has never been in more conflict with his crew. Chris resents him and Paulie is a blabber mouth - both very bad for business. Also Tony is losing money - Paulie is not earning - Phil takes over in NY. You can feel the walls starting to close in on Tony. I think this was Junior's swan song as well - his last scene - a beaten old man who couldn't protect himself or fight against the powers. He is a shell of himself.

So you are saying there is more conflict with his crew now then say when Richie Aprile was around, or when Ralphie? Is Tony really losing money? Gambling a little, but we'll see how that plays out. And I dont know where you are seeing that Paulie isnt earning. The reference to Barone coming to an end wasnt about Paulie not earning money for the family, it was about Paulie being able to show a legitimate income stream for tax purposes to keep the feds off his back. Tony now knows Paulie isnt a rat though, to the feds at least.

 

[The Gator]

Another question - who exactly was it that was talking to the cops about the dead bookie?

I think it was Larry, the guy who was taken out of the Clever after party by the Marshals.

 

[Godsbrother]

I was glad to see that Junior now has been officially wrapped up.

For a brief moment on the boat I was thinking that Paulie might have drugged Tony's rigatoni...

 

[Wooderson]

Junior's Executive Card Game has fallen on hard times.

"Red Buttons"

"I have a flush.""No you don't."

That part was great.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I remember the episode in which Tony is talking about the first time he saw his father hurt someone - he saw his father and Junior beat up a butcher who owed them money, and I think they cut off his finger.

His father saw that Tony saw and later chastised him for not doing what he was told (Tony was told to wait outside I believe). He then commended Tony for not being scared by it, and then tried to explain why it had happened. He explained that the butcher owed him money from a gambling debt and couldn't pay. And then he said something like:

"Anthony, you should never gamble."

Maybe I'm just not remembering it from old episodes, but I always thought this was a value that Tony had internalized - he never plays in the big poker games and, until recently IIRC, never heard a lot about him gambling big on sports.

I'm just wondering if this is a shift in Tony's character, something we can read into, or just some details that I'm forgetting.

 

[Godsbrother]

I remember the episode in which Tony is talking about the first time he saw his father hurt someone - he saw his father and Junior beat up a butcher who owed them money, and I think they cut off his finger.

His father saw that Tony saw and later chastised him for not doing what he was told (Tony was told to wait outside I believe). He then commended Tony for not being scared by it, and then tried to explain why it had happened. He explained that the butcher owed him money from a gambling debt and couldn't pay. And then he said something like:

"Anthony, you should never gamble."

Maybe I'm just not remembering it from old episodes, but I always thought this was a value that Tony had internalized - he never plays in the big poker games and, until recently IIRC, never heard a lot about him gambling big on sports.

I'm just wondering if this is a shift in Tony's character, something we can read into, or just some details that I'm forgetting.

Possibly. In any case it looks from the previews that Hesh Rabkin might not come through with the 200K loan to Tony.

 

[Kiddnets]

I love the set up - Tony has never been in more conflict with his crew. Chris resents him and Paulie is a blabber mouth - both very bad for business. Also Tony is losing money - Paulie is not earning - Phil takes over in NY. You can feel the walls starting to close in on Tony. I think this was Junior's swan song as well - his last scene - a beaten old man who couldn't protect himself or fight against the powers. He is a shell of himself.

So you are saying there is more conflict with his crew now then say when Richie Aprile was around, or when Ralphie? Is Tony really losing money? Gambling a little, but we'll see how that plays out. And I dont know where you are seeing that Paulie isnt earning. The reference to Barone coming to an end wasnt about Paulie not earning money for the family, it was about Paulie being able to show a legitimate income stream for tax purposes to keep the feds off his back. Tony now knows Paulie isnt a rat though, to the feds at least.

This is different conflict - Paulie and Chris are his guys - Richie and Ralphie were never as close to him IMO. You are right on the legit income - still leads to the same theme though - weakness for Paulie. So you have in house weakness with his supposed closest guys. NY boss that hates him. Feds trying to close in. Next week it looks like Carm goes nuts about her house - the walls are closing.

 

[Raider Nation]

Another question - who exactly was it that was talking to the cops about the dead bookie?

And how exactly would they have pinned a murder 25 years old on Tony? You would need more than an ID'd body and a snitch (unless he was a witness - but I don't think that was implied).

Larry Boy Barese was said to have been the snitch. Larry Boy is played by the guy who played Sonny in Goodfellas... got the bottle cracked over his head. Know the guy?They thought it would be pinned on T because, again, Larry Boy was talking.

 

[Shrek]

Another question - who exactly was it that was talking to the cops about the dead bookie?

I think it was Larry, the guy who was taken out of the Clever after party by the Marshals.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Silvio mentioned Larry Barese (spelling?) when he told Tony that the Feds believe it was Jackie Aprile that did it.

 

[Righetti]

regarding the trip to in Miami. Although they said/implied that they were going down there to lay low, was it done so they could go into hiding more easily if the murder had been pinned on Tony?

 

[PatsWillWin]

regarding the trip to in Miami. Although they said/implied that they were going down there to lay low, was it done so they could go into hiding more easily if the murder had been pinned on Tony?

I think it's safe to say that they were basically on the pre-emptive lamb.

 

[wildbill]

Horrible episode. Too much BS to get a little tension and one guy killed. THey go from one of the best episodes in years to this?

a little tension? that's like saying tony's a little fat. the whole episode, and this season has revolved around tony losing faith in his crew and seeing things he probably shouldn't be seeing. he's slipping as a leader, and he's never done that -- he's lost trust in his guys and that's all leading down the road to where this thing ends.

can't believe anybody would take so little out of that episode.

Did you think Paulie would get whacked for maybe telling Sack about the Ginny joke? I didn't.

I absolutely think Tony was thisclose to killing him on the boat. You could see the look of anguish on his face, trying to get the courage/balls to do the deed. It wasn't JUST for the Ginny comment. The whole episode was a demonstration of how Paulie can't keep his mouth shut. That's bad for business, bad for staying out of jail, and bad for trying to keep a happy home.

I think it was more about Tony seeing Paulie as a washed-up has-been, and Tony subconsciously doesn't want to end up like that himself. And Paulie was getting on his last nerve. But I would have been PISSED if he'd killed Paulie. I just don't see enough logic and support for it.

Maybe this is where i'm at. I think it takes more than a joke to get Paulie killed.

You watched the episode tonight, yes?

I agree with Gator here. Tony seems to either kill someone when it makes sense logically or when he snaps ala Ralphie. This scenario was neither. I think Tony recognized his paranoia for what it was. While I was tense and unsure, I just didn't believe it was going to happen. Then again, I didn't want to believe that it'd happen.

I respectfully submit that you are both missing the point.This was NOT about one joke.

Exactly. Tony is/was worried about Paulie running his mouth so much. The entire episode revolved around Paulie saying #### he shouldnt be saying to outsiders. When talking with Beansie Tony, after saying how great a guy Paulie really is, asks whether "he has ever been put to the test." The answer was no, so Tony took him out on the boat. Paulie knew something was awry so the mental stress was there. Paulie admits as much when he tells Tony he does the "heh heh heh" when he is nervous. Tony KNOWS Paulie told Johnny Sac about the joke. He was testing Paulie to see if when under pressure he would unravel.

Didn't Paulie pull some time a couple of seasons ago? If he kept his mouth shut then, why would Tony question him now?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Exactly. Tony is/was worried about Paulie running his mouth so much. The entire episode revolved around Paulie saying #### he shouldnt be saying to outsiders. When talking with Beansie Tony, after saying how great a guy Paulie really is, asks whether "he has ever been put to the test." The answer was no, so Tony took him out on the boat. Paulie knew something was awry so the mental stress was there. Paulie admits as much when he tells Tony he does the "heh heh heh" when he is nervous. Tony KNOWS Paulie told Johnny Sac about the joke. He was testing Paulie to see if when under pressure he would unravel.

Didn't Paulie pull some time a couple of seasons ago? If he kept his mouth shut then, why would Tony question him now?

It was just a bull#### gun charge. A couple of months isnt anything to these guys.

 

[Kraft...]

Another question - who exactly was it that was talking to the cops about the dead bookie?

I think it was Larry, the guy who was taken out of the Clever after party by the Marshals.

I thought they were refering to Lawrence "Larry Boy" Barese the former Cappo that went rat a while back

 

[QUEZILLA]

http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/img/homepage/s...img_ep80_01.jpg

bad-###

Another flash back episode Oh, and they spent way too much time on junior and his asian friend last night.

 

[Please See Mine]

Another question - who exactly was it that was talking to the cops about the dead bookie?

I think it was Larry, the guy who was taken out of the Clever after party by the Marshals.

I thought they were refering to Lawrence "Larry Boy" Barese the former Cappo that went rat a while back

Larry Boy is the guy who was taken from the party for violating the terms of his house arrest. Not sure who you are referring to.

 

[Archie Bunker]

Another question - who exactly was it that was talking to the cops about the dead bookie?

I think it was Larry, the guy who was taken out of the Clever after party by the Marshals.

I thought they were refering to Lawrence "Larry Boy" Barese the former Cappo that went rat a while back

Larry Boy is the guy who was taken from the party for violating the terms of his house arrest. Not sure who you are referring to.

He might be thinking of Raymond Curto. he was the old guy that died while talking to an FBI agent in a car. At his funeral, everyone was talking about how he was such a standup guy, not knowing he was a snitch.