⚽ Soccer Match-day Thread (3 Viewers)

[B Maverick]

Its not CL action, but Rashford and Antony have both scored in the League Cup vs Barnsley.

 

[titusbramble]

They've found their level

 

[B Maverick]

They've found their level

You might be right!
Good to see them beat who they are supposed to finally. Rashy 2, Garnacho 2, Antony 1

 

[NewlyRetired]

A rare Scorigami in Champions League today with the 9-2 win by Bayern.

 

[NewlyRetired]

They've found their level

You might be right!
Good to see them beat who they are supposed to finally. Rashy 2, Garnacho 2, Antony 1

It is no coincidence that the last time Man United won 7-0 it was against............Barnsley

 

[titusbramble]

Epic pennos at Deepdale, Preston beat Fulham 16-15

 

[B Maverick]

They've found their level

You might be right!
Good to see them beat who they are supposed to finally. Rashy 2, Garnacho 2, Antony 1

It is no coincidence that the last time Man United won 7-0 it was against............Barnsley

At least last time that happened it was actually in the EPL, not while Barnsley was below Wrexham.

Rashy 2, Garnacho 2, Erikson 2, Antony 1

 

[gianmarco]

A rare Scorigami in Champions League today with the 9-2 win by Bayern.

I'm not sure what's crazier...

That Bayern became the first team to score 9 goals in the CL

Or

That it was a 1 goal game (3-2) in the 2nd half (50th minute) and ended up 9-2.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I can't believe how much better Gravenberch is this season. He's not really a destroyer, but his recoveries and interceptions must rank high in the league and he's a demon picking the ball up deep and carrying it through lines. Like world class at it -- he seems to be able to unbalance the nearest defender and take a couple of long strides past him at will. Reminds me of Thiago in that skill, except more explosive.

We'll have to see how that plays against top top teams, but with MacAllister next to him and Szoboszlai running 25 miles a match (visual estimate) ahead of them they seem to be holding up well defensively so far.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Mean while in Russia

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[titusbramble]

Martinez extremely lucky not to walk

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Man United are on a -1 goal difference over their last 43 league games. That's kind of unbelievable.

 

[titusbramble]

Also, Sheffield double, yay

Next stop - Portsmouth

 

[NewlyRetired]

NYCFC fans welcoming Messi and friends to Yankee stadium

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[TennesseeJed]

Man United are on a -1 goal difference over their last 43 league games. That's kind of unbelievable.

If you have seen many of their games - it becomes a lot more believable...

 

[titusbramble]

Meanwhile near Derby

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[Desert_Power]

Man United are on a -1 goal difference over their last 43 league games. That's kind of unbelievable.

If you have seen many of their games - it becomes a lot more believable...

Laughing emoji

 

[guru_007]

Leverkusen '90+3 ....yet again

 

[limey]

MCI-ARS is warming up nicely.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Would love to see it codified that the team in possession after a non-bookable foul can restart immediately, without a whistle, as long as the ball is no closer to the goal than where it was at the time of the foul. Let the offensive team make as much hay from getting fouled as they can.

Related: City's tears sustain me.

ETA: having said... I'd love to see City put Arsenal to the sword here. Still betting the FA does the same to City before the end of the year.

 

[Desert_Power]

Holy hell. What a crazy stoppage time.

 

[massraider]

This game!!!!

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Trossard probably shouldn't have knowingly committed any foul on a yellow card, and he did.

But wow... in the context of how the rest of the game has been called that is a super-light 2nd yellow.

 

[massraider]

Trossard got his 2nd yellow for kicking the ball away.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Trossard got his 2nd yellow for kicking the ball away.

Credit to the match announcers here in the US calling out the discrepancy between this explanation and what they heard discussed on the VAR feed.

Per the conversation they heard, VAR reviewed the 2nd yellow for excessive force and confirmed the referee's decision.

ETA: if you watch the replay Oliver doesn't go for his card until after the kick though. He whistles the foul and seems content to walk away until he sees Trossard kick it into next week.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Still betting the FA does the same to City before the end of the year.

I expect you and many others have a big dose of severe disappointment in your future.

 

[Desert_Power]

Lamine Yamal has got to be lying about his age. Incredible player.

 

[El Floppo]

So Arsenal going to roll with the 6-3-0 for the entirety of the 2nd half and just set up in their own box hoping to hold on. Bold approach.

 

[TennesseeJed]

Per the conversation they heard, VAR reviewed the 2nd yellow for excessive force and confirmed the referee's decision.

There is no review for YCs. Even 2nd YCs that lead to RCs.

 

[Desert_Power]

Looks like a serious injury to Ter Stegen. Of course this would happen now that he finally gets to be #1 for Germany.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

lol Haaland after the equalizer. That is top level grade A stuff. Gabriel tried to give it back to him on the kickoff and that didn't go so well.

 

[guru_007]

Pulisic with a beauty in the derby

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I expect you and many others have a big dose of severe disappointment in your future.

Is this a generic "evil always wins" kind of thing, or have I fallen behind the story during a busy week?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I expect you and many others have a big dose of severe disappointment in your future.

Is this a generic "evil always wins" kind of thing, or have I fallen behind the story during a busy week?

The charges, defenses and the entire proceeding are shrouded in secrecy, but I think the media presenting it as some sort of slam dunk (115!!!) is misleading everyone and feeding into collective wishful thinking. I don’t trust the FA and until proven otherwise I’ve always assumed it’s a witch-hunt driven by the legacy clubs more than anything else.

 

[encaitar]

Huge win by Milan in the derby today. Might've saved Fonseca's job.

 

[Redwes25]

lol Haaland after the equalizer. That is top level grade A stuff. Gabriel tried to give it back to him on the kickoff and that didn't go so well.

Honestly, throwing the ball into a guys head like that should have been a red card.

 

[B Maverick]

TWO WORDS FOR YOU ALL......


MICHAEL OLIVER

 

[NewlyRetired]

lol Haaland after the equalizer. That is top level grade A stuff. Gabriel tried to give it back to him on the kickoff and that didn't go so well.

Honestly, throwing the ball into a guys head like that should have been a red card.

I can see in the heat of the moment that the ref may have missed it or not thought too much about it but the fact that the EPL officials reviewed this incident after the game and are not even issuing a basic fine, much less a suspension is nuts.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

lol Haaland after the equalizer. That is top level grade A stuff. Gabriel tried to give it back to him on the kickoff and that didn't go so well.

Honestly, throwing the ball into a guys head like that should have been a red card.

I can see in the heat of the moment that the ref may have missed it or not thought too much about it but the fact that the EPL officials reviewed this incident after the game and are not even issuing a basic fine, much less a suspension is nuts.

My understanding is that it’s one of those technical issues where they can’t review it under their own rules if the ref didn’t see it and issue a card.

 

[B Maverick]

lol Haaland after the equalizer. That is top level grade A stuff. Gabriel tried to give it back to him on the kickoff and that didn't go so well.

Honestly, throwing the ball into a guys head like that should have been a red card.

I can see in the heat of the moment that the ref may have missed it or not thought too much about it but the fact that the EPL officials reviewed this incident after the game and are not even issuing a basic fine, much less a suspension is nuts.

My understanding is that it’s one of those technical issues where they can’t review it under their own rules if the ref didn’t see it and issue a card.

I thought if the ref didn't see it is when they can review and issue a fine/ban. They can not review or add punishment if the ref sees it and declines to do anything.


I didn't see the game, but from what I have read, Halaand should have had 2 yellows well before throwing the ball into the back of his head, which also should have been a red.
But again, its Michael Oliver. And to a lesser extend, City.

 

[TennesseeJed]

Looks like Rodri is out for the season with an ACL

If the FA case goes well, he might have just played his last game for City.

 

[El Floppo]

I watched the city arse match extended highlights last night.

Rodris 1st second run into Havertz? Direction and then throw himself to the ground in agony when Havertz gave him a barge... Set the tone apparently. Rodris injury though... Appeared non-contsct or minimal at worst? Sucks for him, city and the league- but I saw zero in it.

The Trossard second yellow was really clear for lowering a shoulder into the man without looking at the ball. I didn't think Oliver hesitated- blew the foul, walked towards Trossard reaching for his pocket. Kicking the ball away didn't figure into this imo.

Gut punch for arse to concede at the end. I watched 20 mins live of the 2nd half and commented they were playing a legit 6-3-0. It's risky as hell to go 45+ set up like that, especially against City. Kudos to them for holding on that long, but I didn't like the approach.

Lol at Haalnd. Insane that's not picked up by somebody in the officiating staff.

The 2nd leg of this fixture is going to be tasty

 

[B Maverick]

The Trossard second yellow was really clear for lowering a shoulder into the man without looking at the ball. I didn't think Oliver hesitated- blew the foul, walked towards Trossard reaching for his pocket. Kicking the ball away didn't figure into this imo.

I thought they confirmed after the game it was for kicking the ball away?
Article
"The Premier League match centre Twitter/X account explained the decision, confirming that the yellow card was not for the initial foul on Silva, writing: "The referee issued a second yellow card to Leandro Trossard for delaying the restart."

Video

Based on this, he pulls the yellow after the ball is kicked, does not look to me like he was booking him for the foul.

 

[B Maverick]

lol Haaland after the equalizer. That is top level grade A stuff. Gabriel tried to give it back to him on the kickoff and that didn't go so well.

Honestly, throwing the ball into a guys head like that should have been a red card.

I can see in the heat of the moment that the ref may have missed it or not thought too much about it but the fact that the EPL officials reviewed this incident after the game and are not even issuing a basic fine, much less a suspension is nuts.

My understanding is that it’s one of those technical issues where they can’t review it under their own rules if the ref didn’t see it and issue a card.

I thought if the ref didn't see it is when they can review and issue a fine/ban. They can not review or add punishment if the ref sees it and declines to do anything.


I didn't see the game, but from what I have read, Halaand should have had 2 yellows well before throwing the ball into the back of his head, which also should have been a red.
But again, its Michael Oliver. And to a lesser extend, City.

Article explaining

"Referee Michael Oliver did not issue a yellow or red card to Haaland after deeming it was not an act of violent conduct. John Brooks was on VAR duty and agreed with Oliver, deciding that a red card for Haaland was not necessary.
As a result, the FA will not get involved or issue a punishment to Haaland for throwing the ball at Gabriel. "

Basically, Oliver and Brooks decided intentionally throwing the ball into the back of someone's head is NOT violent conduct worth a red. Since they saw it, no further action can be taken.
How anyone can see that and think that is not a red, I have no idea.

Once again proving Michael Oliver is the worst ref in the EPL.

 

[El Floppo]

The Trossard second yellow was really clear for lowering a shoulder into the man without looking at the ball. I didn't think Oliver hesitated- blew the foul, walked towards Trossard reaching for his pocket. Kicking the ball away didn't figure into this imo.

I thought they confirmed after the game it was for kicking the ball away?
Article
"The Premier League match centre Twitter/X account explained the decision, confirming that the yellow card was not for the initial foul on Silva, writing: "The referee issued a second yellow card to Leandro Trossard for delaying the restart."

Video

Based on this, he pulls the yellow after the ball is kicked, does not look to me like he was booking him for the foul.

Ah... My take was just based on watching the highlights. It is clear he calls the foul and then pulls the yellow after the ball kick away. I saw it wrong.

my opinion stands either way. Yellow worthy challenge, imo, and stupid and obvious yellow for kicking the ball away. If your carrying a yellow already, especially in a huge match like this, both plays are stupid by trissard

 

[El Floppo]

lol Haaland after the equalizer. That is top level grade A stuff. Gabriel tried to give it back to him on the kickoff and that didn't go so well.

Honestly, throwing the ball into a guys head like that should have been a red card.

I can see in the heat of the moment that the ref may have missed it or not thought too much about it but the fact that the EPL officials reviewed this incident after the game and are not even issuing a basic fine, much less a suspension is nuts.

My understanding is that it’s one of those technical issues where they can’t review it under their own rules if the ref didn’t see it and issue a card.

I thought if the ref didn't see it is when they can review and issue a fine/ban. They can not review or add punishment if the ref sees it and declines to do anything.


I didn't see the game, but from what I have read, Halaand should have had 2 yellows well before throwing the ball into the back of his head, which also should have been a red.
But again, its Michael Oliver. And to a lesser extend, City.

Article explaining

"Referee Michael Oliver did not issue a yellow or red card to Haaland after deeming it was not an act of violent conduct. John Brooks was on VAR duty and agreed with Oliver, deciding that a red card for Haaland was not necessary.
As a result, the FA will not get involved or issue a punishment to Haaland for throwing the ball at Gabriel. "

Basically, Oliver and Brooks decided intentionally throwing the ball into the back of someone's head is NOT violent conduct worth a red. Since they saw it, no further action can be taken.
How anyone can see that and think that is not a red, I have no idea.

Once again proving Michael Oliver is the worst ref in the EPL.

Is have to see all of that play again... There was a lot of argy bargy going on outside of the haalnad throw which may have deterred Oliver from blowing up the situation with the rightly called red.

But yeah. Laughable obvious red

 

[B Maverick]

lol Haaland after the equalizer. That is top level grade A stuff. Gabriel tried to give it back to him on the kickoff and that didn't go so well.

Honestly, throwing the ball into a guys head like that should have been a red card.

I can see in the heat of the moment that the ref may have missed it or not thought too much about it but the fact that the EPL officials reviewed this incident after the game and are not even issuing a basic fine, much less a suspension is nuts.

My understanding is that it’s one of those technical issues where they can’t review it under their own rules if the ref didn’t see it and issue a card.

I thought if the ref didn't see it is when they can review and issue a fine/ban. They can not review or add punishment if the ref sees it and declines to do anything.


I didn't see the game, but from what I have read, Halaand should have had 2 yellows well before throwing the ball into the back of his head, which also should have been a red.
But again, its Michael Oliver. And to a lesser extend, City.

Article explaining

"Referee Michael Oliver did not issue a yellow or red card to Haaland after deeming it was not an act of violent conduct. John Brooks was on VAR duty and agreed with Oliver, deciding that a red card for Haaland was not necessary.
As a result, the FA will not get involved or issue a punishment to Haaland for throwing the ball at Gabriel. "

Basically, Oliver and Brooks decided intentionally throwing the ball into the back of someone's head is NOT violent conduct worth a red. Since they saw it, no further action can be taken.
How anyone can see that and think that is not a red, I have no idea.

Once again proving Michael Oliver is the worst ref in the EPL.

Is have to see all of that play again... There was a lot of argy bargy going on outside of the haalnad throw which may have deterred Oliver from blowing up the situation with the rightly called red.

But yeah. Laughable obvious red

I can not imagine anything happening in the buildup or the rest of the game that would negate giving a red there.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

If you touch someone's face and they fall over you're very likely to get a red. This seems... inconsistent.

1000% chance I'm chucking the ball into the back of Haaland's head next time I have a chance if I'm an opposing player though.

 

[El Floppo]

Speaking of nasty challenges and inconsistent reffing...

The two footed jumping tackle by Martinez vs Palace was a shocker. Whenever I watch United, he does something crazy yellow/red worthy, but this was the worst that I've seen. Only let off, I guess, because he didn't hit the other player. Shocking tackle to see in today's game... Drew a yellow, but yikes- really should've been red.

 

[B Maverick]

Speaking of nasty challenges and inconsistent reffing...

The two footed jumping tackle by Martinez vs Palace was a shocker. Whenever I watch United, he does something crazy yellow/red worthy, but this was the worst that I've seen. Only let off, I guess, because he didn't hit the other player. Shocking tackle to see in today's game... Drew a yellow, but yikes- really should've been red.

I didn't see the game but did see some commentary about it. Old school probably fine, today probably red even though there was no contact and he got all ball....