I've listened to this album with interest over the past few years just to see how it would hold up. It's interesting. I think "She" and "Burnout" were the songs that impressed me the most from the album. It is indeed pop-punk, and the whole sell-out thing was odd and probably driven by the Bay Area politics from which they came.#16 - Green Day - Basket Case
Our first entry from Green Day - I vacillate between it being my favorite or second favorite from Dookie, but the other big single undoubtedly played a much bigger role in breaking the band. Green Day got a ton of flak for being sell-outs, but really, it's pop punk. Not really sure how "sellout" applies when the genre itself has "pop" in the name. Plus, unlike Jawbreaker, who promised never to sign to a major label, I don't think Green Day ever harbored any delusions about their rock star aspirations or led any fans to believe they were content to stay confined in a local scene.
Basket Case peaked at #1 on the Modern Rock Charts and #16 on the Billboard Top 40 in November 1994. Rolling Stone ranks it as #150 on their Top 500 Songs of All Time list. Great video too.
Basket Case
I've listened to this album with interest over the past few years just to see how it would hold up. It's interesting. I think "She" and "Burnout" were the songs that impressed me the most from the album. It is indeed pop-punk, and the whole sell-out thing was odd and probably driven by the Bay Area politics from which they came.
It's a fatter guitar sound than their two indie releases, but it's the same thing, really. Pop rock played fast. It still focused on the guy/girl thing and the whole shebang. It was just punk guys from a smaller Californian town doing it, everyday folks circa 1992, rock stars in '94. The day they got chased off the stage at the Boston Half-Shell while doing a free concert for a local alternative station showed how big they had gotten. My friends from Boston went to that and got caught among the surging crowd.I would be so bold to say anybody who labels Dookie a "sell out" is trying too hard. It's one of the greatest pop albums of the decade, overplayed or not.
Ha! I remember that day, my roommate went. That was big news that day. WFNX was the station, I think.The day they got chased off the stage at the Boston Half-Shell while doing a free concert for a local alternative station showed how big they had gotten. My friends from Boston went to that and got caught among the surging crowd.
Lol. I'm trying to picture Billy Joel singing "I never sleep, 'cause sleep is the cousin of death."
Scooby to the rescue. You're the only man I know who could mix Elvis Costello and Public Enemy:Well, it's 12 o'clock on a Saturday
and I'm barely catching my breath.
And though I'm in too deep,
I never sleep
Cause sleep is the cousin of death.
Or you might be busy...Scooby to the rescue. You're the only man I know who could mix Elvis Costello and Public Enemy:
What's so funny about... peace, peace, peace... love and under... peace, peace. Death Row, what a brother know... peace, peace.
Those are 2 of my 3 favorites (other is FOD), but the album is so short I have a playlist that plays it in order just skipping basket case, when I come around, and pulling teeth.I've listened to this album with interest over the past few years just to see how it would hold up. It's interesting. I think "She" and "Burnout" were the songs that impressed me the most from the album. It is indeed pop-punk, and the whole sell-out thing was odd and probably driven by the Bay Area politics from which they came.
I liked Dookie but just as a fun diversion. I didn’t take them seriously until American Idiot.green day rubbed me all kinds of wrong when they came out (or at least, when I became aware of them after they got huge). I don't care about selling out... but the sound of it- the pop-punk thing... couldn't wrap my head around and just didn't turn my crank.
but I've grown into them as I've gotten older. can't explain it- but I like them a fair bit now.
Same heregreen day rubbed me all kinds of wrong when they came out (or at least, when I became aware of them after they got huge). I don't care about selling out... but the sound of it- the pop-punk thing... couldn't wrap my head around and just didn't turn my crank.
but I've grown into them as I've gotten older. can't explain it- but I like them a fair bit now.
Loved the album when it came out and still love it. It was overplayed but as this list shows, we were desperate for any music that was decent at the time. Maybe GD rubbed the true punk rocks folks the wrong way. Not sure since I was never much of a punk fan.I would be so bold to say anybody who labels Dookie a "sell out" is trying too hard. It's one of the greatest pop albums of the decade, overplayed or not.
You mean when they stole D4s riff for the song "American Idiot" and pretty much hit the creative ####ter on that album, never to be heard from again except in a lukewarm sociopolitical way?I liked Dookie but just as a fun diversion. I didn’t take them seriously until American Idiot.
#15 - Stone Temple Pilots - Interstate Love Song
I checked this out and immediately bought the album. Great stuff.Long Ball Larry said:Cornell’s solo version of fell on black days from songbook would be on the short list if I ever tried to really compile my favorite favorite songs of all time
I played my cassette copy of Dookie so much it physically wore out. Love that album.I would be so bold to say anybody who labels Dookie a "sell out" is trying too hard. It's one of the greatest pop albums of the decade, overplayed or not.
It was a little redundant at times, but I think Insomniac was their peak.I liked Dookie but just as a fun diversion. I didn’t take them seriously until American Idiot.
I will not stand for this Hey Ladies erasure.#14 - Beastie Boys - Sabotage
Many critics consider Sabotage to be the Beastie’s best track - Rolling Stone ranks it as the 245th greatest song of all time.
Sabotage
Agree 100%. This is one of my all time favorites. Such a great song.My #1 song for the year (I think)
Almost gets better with age which is saying something because it was my favorite song thirty years ago.
I love this song, but I have to think calling it their best track has more than a little to do with how much everyone loves that video.#14 - Beastie Boys - Sabotage
Need to start the day with a little levity because numbers 13 through 11 are gonna get dark. And what’s more fun than a Cochese sighting?
Sabotage was released several months ahead of the Beasties' fourth album Ill Communication. The song is almost impossible to separate from its Spike Jonze-directed video, which earned five nominations at the VMAs. Many critics consider Sabotage to be the Beastie’s best track - Rolling Stone ranks it as the 245th greatest song of all time.
Sabotage
My favorite Beastie track.#14 - Beastie Boys - Sabotage
Need to start the day with a little levity because numbers 13 through 11 are gonna get dark. And what’s more fun than a Cochese sighting?
Sabotage was released several months ahead of the Beasties' fourth album Ill Communication. The song is almost impossible to separate from its Spike Jonze-directed video, which earned five nominations at the VMAs. Many critics consider Sabotage to be the Beastie’s best track - Rolling Stone ranks it as the 245th greatest song of all time.
Sabotage
#13 - Alice in Chains - I Stay Away
All the heart emojis for this one.#13 - Alice in Chains - I Stay Away
The juxtaposition of the dark, droning vocals against the strings gives I Stay Away a really haunting vibe. The song was the first written with new bassist Mike Inez, who joined after Mike Starr was kicked out of the band for his drug problems. After Jar of Flies was released Layne Staley himself checked into rehab for heroin addiction, trying to get clean before summer dates with Metallica and a prime spot at Woodstock ‘94. Staley relapsed almost immediately and AIC ended up breaking up for more than 6 months. He passed away in 2002 at the age of 34 - Mike Starr was the last person to see Staley alive. Starr himself died of an overdose in 2011. Reading accounts of Staley’s condition in the years before his death is absolutely heartbreaking.
I Stay Away
A random side story that is in-directly related to Green Day.#16 - Green Day - Basket Case
Our first entry from Green Day - I vacillate between it being my favorite or second favorite from Dookie, but the other big single undoubtedly played a much bigger role in breaking the band. Green Day got a ton of flak for being sell-outs, but really, it's pop punk. Not really sure how "sellout" applies when the genre itself has "pop" in the name. Plus, unlike Jawbreaker, who promised never to sign to a major label, I don't think Green Day ever harbored any delusions about their rock star aspirations or led any fans to believe they were content to stay confined in a local scene.
Basket Case peaked at #1 on the Modern Rock Charts and #16 on the Billboard Top 40 in November 1994. Rolling Stone ranks it as #150 on their Top 500 Songs of All Time list. Great video too.
Basket Case
scorchy said:
When my wife and I consolidated CD collections, I gave her crap for having all three Letters to Cleo records. I loved the "hit" of course, and their cover of Dangerous Type from The Craft soundtrack was really good, but what kind of weirdo owned the entire catalog? I also lost an x-rated bet with her over whether she really knew all the words to Here and Now.Same thing with Kay Hanley from Letters of Cleo.
The ended up becoming a client but they were horrible clients and ended up going out of business six months later.
I thought Hanley and Mazzy Star singerHope Sandoval had the best voices from that era.With all the love given, rightfully so, to Lisa Loeb and Liz Phair, man did I have a thing for Angie Hart. This being pre-Internet for the most part, I think I only saw her from the fuzzy photos in the album liner notes and maybe the video for Bizarre Love Triangle. But I fell in love with the voice (and the fact that she looked like a more hip version of my girlfriend at the time).
Same thing with Kay Hanley from Letters of Cleo. Pretty sure I bought Aurora Gory Alice and Labour Of Love EP the same weekend, which lead me to get Marvin The Album, international version to get Bizarre Love Triangle on it, the following weekend.
When my wife and I consolidated CD collections, I gave her crap for having all three Letters to Cleo records. I loved the "hit" of course, and their cover of Dangerous Type from The Craft soundtrack was really good, but what kind of weirdo owned the entire catalog? I also lost an x-rated bet with her over whether she really knew all the words to Here and Now.
It's tricky and sometimes subject to my own arbitrary rules. The single release date is primary, but it has to be a real single. Hurt, for example, was put out as a promo single in mid-1995 specifically for Grammy consideration, but it was never an actual single sold in stores (at least in the U.S.), so I kept it as '94. If there was no single, I go with the album release date. Either way, the internet sometimes has all sorts of contradictory info.Scorchy, what's the rules for which songs qualify, single release date?
Seeing Hurt live, it's an absolute monster, but it also kills the fun.
#12 - Nine Inch Nails - Hurt
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
I'm not really sure what to do with this one. It's the perfect song to end my favorite album of 1994, but I only listen in context of the entire record, never on it's own. The Johnny Cash cover is a glowing testament to how great the original is in and of itself; however, even Trent Reznor admits that once he heard Cash's version, he realized it wasn't his song anymore. Seeing Hurt live, it's an absolute monster, but it also kills the fun. In assembling the list, it moved anywhere between #3 and #30 - I hedged and settled for #12.
Hurt
Huh...I never knew there was a drummer before Kiffmeyer. As I read your story I was thinking in my head that I'm gonna be able to follow this up by saying I saw Kiffmeyer play with the rest of the band. RnR HoF induction weekend they played a show at the House of Blues a mile up the road and 'Sweet Children' opened. It was Billy Joe, Dirnt, and Kiffmeyer playing a dozen or so pre-Kerplunk cuts before the main event. But then i was like wait a minute...A random side story that is in-directly related to Green Day.
Back when I was working for the cannabis software company two years ago, we made an onsite sales call to an indoor farm up in Rainier, OR north of Portland. The owner Raj Pujabi was a real character and was dressed pretty slick with bracelets and necklaces which was pretty odd for most cannabis farmers. He gave us a quick tour of the farm and we proceeded to go get setup for the demo in his office. It was pretty rare for cannabis owners and operators to pull out their product and offer you some during formal business meetings like this, but his farm was definitely different. It was more common during events and after hours type of activities to partake with prospects and clients. After only being in his office for 15 minutes, he called in "Frankie Fingers" to come in and roll a big fat joint. So we all smoke up and I'm the one left talking and making the pitch because our CEO was too high. Oh and right after we smoke the joint, "Scottie" a 65 yo gardener flies in on his skateboard and does a bong hit with the tracheostomy tube! lol
Another 15 minute minutes goes by and Raj pulls a "by the way, do you know who I am?" We all looked at each other and shrugged and said not really. He then walks behind us and points to a little league picture and proceeds to tell us that he was on the same little league team as Billie Joe and that he was the original drummer for Green Day. I went home that night and looked it up and sure enough he's on the wikipedia page as a former band member.
The ended up becoming a client but they were horrible clients and ended up going out of business six months later.
That's why I love it. I'm a wallower.Cash came out in 2002. I sort of missed it in my rap daze. (At that point, I was sort of listening to a lot of emo and rap and don't remember Cash's song hitting like it seems to have done.) It's an interesting song regardless of who performs it, IMO. I don't love the lyrics, but they follow in the secular "a wretch like me" type of gospel song. Wallowing, as it were.
I love the song, but this video is better imo#12 - Nine Inch Nails - Hurt
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
I'm not really sure what to do with this one. It's the perfect song to end my favorite album of 1994, but I only listen in context of the entire record, never on it's own. The Johnny Cash cover is a glowing testament to how great the original is in and of itself; however, even Trent Reznor admits that once he heard Cash's version, he realized it wasn't his song anymore. Seeing Hurt live, it's an absolute monster, but it also kills the fun. In assembling the list, it moved anywhere between #3 and #30 - I hedged and settled for #12.
Hurt
If someone went as far as owning the entire Letters to Cleo catalog, chances are they know Here and Now by heart.When my wife and I consolidated CD collections, I gave her crap for having all three Letters to Cleo records. I loved the "hit" of course, and their cover of Dangerous Type from The Craft soundtrack was really good, but what kind of weirdo owned the entire catalog? I also lost an x-rated bet with her over whether she really knew all the words to Here and Now.
That's amazing. Reminds of those old Bert is Evil memes (before there was a such a thing as memes). I made an iron-on T-shirt out of one where the entire crew is brandishing weapons.
Fair point. Maybe in my heart, I wanted to lose the bet. I dunno.If someone went as far as owning the entire Letters to Cleo catalog, chances are they know Here and Now by heart.![]()