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$20,000 Subscriber Contest (1 Viewer)

Peyton Manning the same cap number as Chris Brown.....crazy. Just more evidence supporting my start 2 QB campaign. For those of you who complain it's not "realistic"...ask yourself if Chris Brown should be worth the same as Peyton Manning.
Numbers is for sissies!
 
Without saying which ones :bag: , there are two recent FBG articles are tailor made for this contest. Speaking of the staff, it would be nice if you had a separate table posted listing only the FBG staff after the rosters are locked.
on now this is a tough one. :hophead:
 
what if I turn 18 September 10, 2004....am i eligible?or I could take Aussie's approach, scam, and go under my dads name :rotflmao:

 
You have to find the studs to be.....I have a question.....let's say I grab McGahee now at $5 submit it and then in two weeks  Henry gets hurt for the year.  What happens to my $5 value....McGahee's stock has to jump.  Am I locked in at $5?  Can everyone else out there now get him at $5 cause that defeats the cause.
If this scenario played out, everyone would have McGahee on their team.
In which case, he becomes a wash as it would be all the other players that were drafted that make the difference between winning and losing.
True, but isn't the point of finding value exactly that. Why should others reap the rewards of picking a home run like I would have if I took MaGahee before Henry was out. IMO, this contest shouldn't be up until the last preseason game is played.
That is not what i would call finding value that would be called getting lucky
 
Fellows,Keep in mind that you're arguing/complaining about a contest that is being given out for free. This doesn't even have to be done. And I'll tell you what, if I owned something and was giving out 15,000 big ones to a contest winner and all the guys could do is argue and complain about how things should be different I'd be shaking my head in disgust.The values are what they are. Travis Minor is twenty something. If they sign or trade for anyone else, that value is way to high, but that's the way it is. There are a million what if's right now.The contest is open now so that you can prepare the best you can. People go on vacations etc...... so having it only open that last week or 2 weeks is ridiculous. There's no reason to not have it open now. Just put in your selections and cross your fingers, have a good time, relax.

 
That is not what i would call finding value that would be called getting lucky
Regardless, is that not what a great deal of ff is all about?
 
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Fellows,Keep in mind that you're arguing/complaining about a contest that is being given out for free. This doesn't even have to be done. And I'll tell you what, if I owned something and was giving out 15,000 big ones to a contest winner and all the guys could do is argue and complain about how things should be different I'd be shaking my head in disgust.The values are what they are. Travis Minor is twenty something. If they sign or trade for anyone else, that value is way to high, but that's the way it is. There are a million what if's right now.The contest is open now so that you can prepare the best you can. People go on vacations etc...... so having it only open that last week or 2 weeks is ridiculous. There's no reason to not have it open now. Just put in your selections and cross your fingers, have a good time, relax.
:goodposting: After all, we ALL are going by the same rules and values. Thanks DD and Joe. Imade it to week 10 last year, plan on going all the way this year!:keepstweakinglineupdaily:
 
But doesn't the roster requirements and the $250 pretty much eliminate the new people (guppies,fish or whatever). 21 players on roster at $250 total? Approximately 12 bucks a player, gives the little guy a snowballs chance in Hades to compete in this. Seems like a contest (rewards program) for the Shark Pool to me! What chance does the 19 yr. old kid from Milwaukee have to win this,exactly none. The $20,000 hype is good for FBG but I don't see a fair contest here.
:cry: Put up 20g's and have your own contest. Sheesh.
 
What did the winning team look like last year?Just curious...were the teams that had a couple high priced studs and a bunch of cheap players fair better than the balanced attack teams...or does it not even matter.

 
I can just see the FBG Nigerian Scam now:

27/12/2004

Dear Friend,

I write to seek your cooperation as my foreign partner and your assistance to enable me to reap the reward for the fantasy contest I have won in your country. I apologize if this mail does not suit your personal or business ethics.

etc., etc.
This posting was ABSOLUTELY HYSTERICAL!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 
Wow went and made some makor adjustments....I just noticed that my 2 big gun QBs shared the same bye week :wall: My totals now look like:QB....38RB....102WR...74TE....19PK....6DEF..11 :thumbup: 250 on the nose.

 
Bump!!Reminder for others who may want to make updates. Plus an introduction to those who haven't seen this before.

 
Bump!!Reminder for others who may want to make updates. Plus an introduction to those who haven't seen this before.
I've been updating like crazy this week once I got back to it and realized Buckhalter and Boerigter were still on my roster. :lol:
 
There is some very good value out there....I feel like I've put together a team that will land me in the last few weeks and I've got a buck to spare....

My totals:

QB - 32

RB - 135

WR - 63

TE - 7

PK - 4

DT - 8

$249 total. I can't even spend the extra buck....would screw up one of my value plays...

 
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Everytime I think it will be my last update...and then I change my mind. :D QB: 36RB: 74WR: 104TE: 13K: 6Def: 17Total: 250

 
my breakdown, because I know you all careQB: 34RB: 130WR: 52TE: 9K: 10D: 15250 on the nose. might tweak kickers/d though

 
Uhh... next Tuesday is September 7th, not the 6th as stated in the rules. So, what day is the deadline? The 6th or 7th?

 
Uhh... next Tuesday is September 7th, not the 6th as stated in the rules. So, what day is the deadline? The 6th or 7th?
I am confused too.In the rules it says, "midnight, 12pm"...Well, midnight is technically 12AM, NOT 12PM... Noon is 12pm.
 
Honest Question 1: Is it legal for the contest only to be open to paying subscribers? I've heard the phrase "no purchase necessary" mentioned before in conjunction with other contests.Honest Question 2: Would FBG consider opening up the contest to non-subscribers assuming the non-subscribers would be ineligible for the prizes? I'd like to take a stab at putting together a team.Thanks.

 
Honest Question 1:  Is it legal for the contest only to be open to paying subscribers?  I've heard the phrase "no purchase necessary" mentioned before in conjunction with other contests.

Honest Question 2:  Would FBG consider opening up the contest to non-subscribers assuming the non-subscribers would be ineligible for the prizes?  I'd like to take a stab at putting together a team.

Thanks.
Uh, subscribing helps fund and therefore drive the contest... :P ...call it a money league if you will.

 
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Do subscription dues go towards paying for the projection tv's too? I was under the impression that these were donated in exchange for advertising.

 
Do subscription dues go towards paying for the projection tv's too? I was under the impression that these were donated in exchange for advertising.
I don't see how that makes any difference but I believe the answer is no, the projectors were donated.
 
Subscriber or Non-Subscriber, everyone sees the same ads. Shouldn't everyone have a chance at winning the product advertised?Not trying to be a pest here, just curious more than anything else. If no prizes are available to non-subscribers like me, I'd still like to try the contest for fun just to see where I stack up against the rest.

 
Its not a free contest, you have to be a subscriber to play in it. Therefore its not free. Free to subscribers is just a play on words. Thats like saying if you give me $5 I'll give you a free $1 gift.

 
Honest Question 1: Is it legal for the contest only to be open to paying subscribers? I've heard the phrase "no purchase necessary" mentioned before in conjunction with other contests.
You can't POSSIBLY be serious? When they say "no purchase necessary", they mean that you don't have to buy an entry into their contest, therefore, it's free. But not every contest is free, like those offered by Coke or McDonalds. This one is for subscribers only, so you need to pony up the subscription fee for Footballguys. Would you also question the legality of the $1 Lottery ticket, or Keno, or a $10 church raffle for a new refrigirator? Come on, dude. :no:
 
QUOTE (Che @ Sep 2 2004, 01:08 PM) Honest Question 1: Is it legal for the contest only to be open to paying subscribers? I've heard the phrase "no purchase necessary" mentioned before in conjunction with other contests. You can't POSSIBLY be serious? When they say "no purchase necessary", they mean that you don't have to buy an entry into their contest, therefore, it's free. But not every contest is free, like those offered by Coke or McDonalds. This one is for subscribers only, so you need to pony up the subscription fee for Footballguys. Would you also question the legality of the $1 Lottery ticket, or Keno, or a $10 church raffle for a new refrigirator? Come on, dude.
I am serious, because I honestly don't know what the difference is between the FBG contest and a contest sponsored by Coke. Why does Coke's need to be "no purchase necessary" and FBG's does not? Or is it up to the sponsor? I doubt Coke would open up the contest to non-Coke customers if it didn't need to.
 
as for the McGahee example, Radballs is right. Most everyone would change their team and have him on their squad at the low price. In fact if you did not do it, you would likely be at a huge disadvantage.Because this is available to all subscribers, we had two choices:- Add the contest later to have the most accurate pricing.- Add the contest now knowing their will be some bargains.All told, I think it makes more sense to put the contest up now so people can see the values and plan their attack. Everyone has the same blank paper.
This is a great contest.It rewards skill and analysis based upon the given prices and the value they represent. Sure some of them are too high/low - that makes the study valuable (and proves the value of subscribing to Footballguys.com) Every draft is about aquiring the most valuable players for the lowest cost. You can follow a number of strategies to get you there.Now watch me get tossed in week 1 ;)
 
I am serious, because I honestly don't know what the difference is between the FBG contest and a contest sponsored by Coke. Why does Coke's need to be "no purchase necessary" and FBG's does not? Or is it up to the sponsor? I doubt Coke would open up the contest to non-Coke customers if it didn't need to.
I'm thinking it's impossible to tell if someone actually bought a Coke or not, so why bother requiring them to buy a Coke? Billion dollar corporation do contests as a means of advertising, and often the top prize is not awarded anyway. FBG does their contest (I'm guessing) to encourage subscriptions and the top prizes will absolutely be awarded. If they just wanted people to know their website name, but never actually give them a dime, it would probably be free to everyone. See the difference?
 
Honest Question 1: Is it legal for the contest only to be open to paying subscribers? I've heard the phrase "no purchase necessary" mentioned before in conjunction with other contests.Honest Question 2: Would FBG consider opening up the contest to non-subscribers assuming the non-subscribers would be ineligible for the prizes? I'd like to take a stab at putting together a team.Thanks.
They had a team of lawyers go through everything back when they did this last year. Everything is 100% legal.
 
che...if you're questioning the reasons for the contests it's one thing, but to question the legality of not allowing everyone in is simply ridiculous. FBG is a privately owned organization and they don't need to offer anything free to anyone, including access to their site or their contest.

 
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I'm thinking it's impossible to tell if someone actually bought a Coke or not, so why bother requiring them to buy a Coke?
How about redeeming a bottle cap or upc label or receipt?
 
I'm thinking it's impossible to tell if someone actually bought a Coke or not, so why bother requiring them to buy a Coke?
How about redeeming a bottle cap or upc label or receipt?
Because a cap from a bottle of Coke is such a rare commodity. No way you can come up with one of those without actually making a purchase...
 
I'm thinking it's impossible to tell if someone actually bought a Coke or not, so why bother requiring them to buy a Coke?
How about redeeming a bottle cap or upc label or receipt?
Che, using your logic, one should never have to pay for a lottery ticket either. What about when the local fire hall has bingo ro raffles? You think you should do those for free to?
 
Ok, unless an injury happens to one of my players, I'm done tweaking. My positional totals.QB=20RB=150WR=50TE=13Kicker=7Def=10Let the good times roll!If I win, how many subcriptions would it pay for FBG at 18.95 a year.P.S. If I win I'm going to buy you a subscription next year Che.

 
FBG is a privately owned organization and they don't need to offer anything free to anyone
So, if I wanted to, I could legally collect money from customers, keep a cut for myself, and pay out the rest to some of the customers based on the results of NFL games? Hmmmmm? Sounds like a bookie to me.
 
If you really want to compete in the contest without being eligible for prizes, you can just go look at the list of values and make a team, then score it by hand thru the season and compare it to subscriber scores. Would not take an especially large effort.And if you want the message board cred associated with beating everyone else, just post a thread with your team in it prior to the contest deadline, then let it fall to the bottom. If you dominate, you can bump it back up later.

 
FBG is a privately owned organization and they don't need to offer anything free to anyone
So, if I wanted to, I could legally collect money from customers, keep a cut for myself, and pay out the rest to some of the customers based on the results of NFL games? Hmmmmm? Sounds like a bookie to me.
The subscription is for the site content, not for the contest. Just pony up the $20 ya cheapskate.
 
FBG is a privately owned organization and they don't need to offer anything free to anyone
So, if I wanted to, I could legally collect money from customers, keep a cut for myself, and pay out the rest to some of the customers based on the results of NFL games? Hmmmmm? Sounds like a bookie to me.
Didn't want to say anything, but Joe lent me $20G last week. If Eastern Michigan doesn't cover tonight, I'm screwed. More than one guy here has meet with the wrong side of Shick's steel toe boots in a dark alley.
 
Let's seeChe Guevara: Revolutionary famous for taking squirrely ideas that would never work, taking them to places where he had no vested interest, causing additional pain and suffering by leaving the populace he was trying to save in much worse shape than when he got there.Che: Revolutionary forumer taking squirrely ideas................. :ph34r: That's spooky.Vive la revolution, mah brutha!

 
FBG is a privately owned organization and they don't need to offer anything free to anyone
So, if I wanted to, I could legally collect money from customers, keep a cut for myself, and pay out the rest to some of the customers based on the results of NFL games? Hmmmmm? Sounds like a bookie to me.
Che...Pretty simply. This is defined as a contest of skill in the eyes of the law. Regarding the no purchase necessary, that varies from state to state which is why Coke doesn't differentiate. FBGs has excluded people living in some states from collecting prizes. Obviously their lawyers have been all over this.
 
FBG is a privately owned organization and they don't need to offer anything free to anyone
So, if I wanted to, I could legally collect money from customers, keep a cut for myself, and pay out the rest to some of the customers based on the results of NFL games? Hmmmmm? Sounds like a bookie to me.
You are paying for the subscriber content, email updates, etc. and the contest is a bonus. Stop being a cheapass and subscribe if you want to enter. You have nothing to stand on here.
 

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