Amen to that. Maybe I can grab him 9th overall in my Rookie draft.
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2007 Rookie Draft / RUNNINGBACKS (1 Viewer)
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Perhaps my point wasn't clear in bringing up the Craig Heyward comparision.When you look at Heywards career you see that he was a 1st round pick so New Orleans clearly had hopes and plans for him to become a feature Rb for them. However he missed a lot of time due to injury/poor conditioning and never became anything more than a COP Rb for them. As it is with many of the larger Rbs in the NFL such as Bush projects to be.Hayward later in his career had success running out of Atlanta's version of the run and shoot offense that used 4 Wr as its primary formation. Haywards success stemed from being able to run draw plays against nickle and dime defenses that were focused much more on stopping Atlantas Wrs than it was focused on stopping Hayward. This is very similar to what I hear is the way that Michael Bush has been used in college. So his success at the college level is not likely to translate into the same thing at the pro level which does not have any teams so devoted to running a spread offense as thier primary alignment.Every team does use the 3 wr and 4 wr formation at times during a game. But the run and shoot experiment is over. It did produce some amazing statistics during the expiriment but it never won any chapionships. Teams realised that they still needed to be able to run the ball from power formations and that they are better served being multi-dimesional than to commit to only running one type of formation that can be game planned for.So that is my point of comparision of Bush to Heyward in that what has been successful for him at the college level will not be an offense or game plan that the NFL will pick him to be successful from exclusivly. And if he is not as effective running from a power formation at the pro level then his role will be limited to being a COP Rb just like Heywards career was and the majority of other big Rbs that have had careers in the NFL.Now if Bush turns out to be an Eddie George or Jerome Bettis that is another thing entirely. But I have not yet seen any evidence to support that.
Kleck.
Footballguy
Bush has the potential to be a solid NFL RB. His size/speed combo is outstanding. However, I haven't seen him run as physical as he's going to need to be in the NFL. The Louisville spread offense disguised that Eric Shelton was overrated, and I think it's doing the same to Bush. Now, Bush could learn how to use his size to his advantage - put his shoulder down and run through guys, run low, and so on, but I havent seen it yet. Until then, I see him as a novelty/role player, despite his possible status as a first round pick.I repectfully disagree 110%
I see him the same way.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Sorry, not really into writing paragraphs upon paragraphs in my posts, just not my style... But I can assure you I put alot of thought into this list.
Disclosure: These rankings are based on NFL fantasy potential, not necessarily predicted NFL Draft order
1. Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma*
2. Marshawn Lynch, California*
3. Antonio Pittman, OSU*
4. Michael Bush, Louisville*
5. Kenny Irons, Auburn
6. Tony Hunt, Penn State
7. Lorenzo Booker, FSU
8. Kenneth Darby, Alabama
9. Selvin Young, Texas
10. Dwayne Wright, Fresno State*
11. Kolby Smith, Louisville
12. DeShawn Wynn, Florida
13. Jon Cornish, Kansas
15. Brandon Jackson, Nebraska*
16. Ahmad Bradshaw, Marshall*
17. Chris Henry, Arizona*
18. Tyrone Moss, Miami (FL)
19. Brian Leonard, Rutgers
14. Darius Walker, Notre Dame*
20. Germaine Race, Pittsburgh State
21. Pierre Thomas, Illinois
22. Arkee Whitlock, Southern Illinois
23. Alvin Banks, James Madison
24. Garrett Wolfe, Northern Illinois
25. Gary Russell, Minnesota
26. Courtney Lewis, Texas A&M
27. Ronnie McGill, UNC
28. Clifton Dawson, Harvard
29. Justin Vincent, LSU
30. Danny Ware, Georgia*
*Underclassmen
my QB list
my WR list
Disclosure: These rankings are based on NFL fantasy potential, not necessarily predicted NFL Draft order
1. Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma*
2. Marshawn Lynch, California*
3. Antonio Pittman, OSU*
4. Michael Bush, Louisville*
5. Kenny Irons, Auburn
6. Tony Hunt, Penn State
7. Lorenzo Booker, FSU
8. Kenneth Darby, Alabama
9. Selvin Young, Texas
10. Dwayne Wright, Fresno State*
11. Kolby Smith, Louisville
12. DeShawn Wynn, Florida
13. Jon Cornish, Kansas
15. Brandon Jackson, Nebraska*
16. Ahmad Bradshaw, Marshall*
17. Chris Henry, Arizona*
18. Tyrone Moss, Miami (FL)
19. Brian Leonard, Rutgers
14. Darius Walker, Notre Dame*
20. Germaine Race, Pittsburgh State
21. Pierre Thomas, Illinois
22. Arkee Whitlock, Southern Illinois
23. Alvin Banks, James Madison
24. Garrett Wolfe, Northern Illinois
25. Gary Russell, Minnesota
26. Courtney Lewis, Texas A&M
27. Ronnie McGill, UNC
28. Clifton Dawson, Harvard
29. Justin Vincent, LSU
30. Danny Ware, Georgia*
*Underclassmen
my QB list
my WR list
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First Justin Rascati, now him...Here are a few guys I ommited from the list... but in Russell's case, it's a big unknown because for all we know he could have gained 100 lbs and smoked himself stupid while out of football
But take a look at where he was at just 1 short year ago...
2005 Minnesota Golden Gophers Rushing Statistics
NAME CAR YDS YPC LONG TD
Laurence Maroney 287 1464 5.2 93(TD) 10
Gary Russell 186 1130 6.1 61 18
Senior RBs
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21. Stevie Hicks, Iowa State
22. Curtis Brown, BYU
23. Clifton Dawson, Harvard
24. Gary Russell, Minnesota
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Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
Bloom and I have a Michael Bush Face-Off that we are writing for the offseason. I love power backs and power football, and think that Bush could be a superb back at the NFL level.
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
McFadden
but don't forget about Felix Jones (his teammate in the backfield). DMcF should come out after next year, and I think Jones' stays and has a fine senior season. Also listen to Bloom, Jeff, and me interview Scott Hastings, we spend a lot of time discussing McFadden.Direct link
If you have Itunes click: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore...st?id=178083008
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
In the inaugural draft of one of my dynasty leagues (14 teams),we had the option of selecting 1 college player. I took Michael Bushat pick 6.04. Although I am high on him, injury concerns are a huge factor,and I believe his size will work against him when it comes to remaininginjury free in the NFL.Bloom and I have a Michael Bush Face-Off that we are writing for the offseason. I love power backs and power football, and think that Bush could be a superb back at the NFL level.
wannabee
Footballguy
Cecil is right. Felix is a stud. He broke many of the high school records from Tulsa (OK) Booker T Washington high school. That school has a long and storied history of producing very good Football and Basketball players.McFadden
Direct link
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I am sure Corey Dillon, Reuben Droughns, DeShaun Foster, Steven Jackson, Reggie Bush, Maurice Jones-Drew, and Mike Bell would disagree with your weariness of the Pac-10.What's your logic in considering pac-10 RBs inferior? The JJ Arrington incident?
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I have Arrington stashed away in 2 of my dynasty leagues.... and I won't hesitate to snap up Marshawn with my #2 rookie pick.
I'll give you Jackson and Dillon, and even Bush.I mentioned Drew.Foster was a bust as far as draft position.Droughns and Bell I'll give credit for working to get a job but neither may ever start another NFL game.This list does not compare to other conferences.The fact that the Pac 10, especially recently, fields some very bad defenses and for whatever reason those big open spaces seem to be more frequent in the Pac 10 making it tough to gauge how good the RBs actually are at reading defenses.Jackson actually had a DREADFUL O Line in college, so I would not have had the same doubts about him coming out.Lynch is still 2nd on my RB board, but I don't think he's as much of a "sure thing" as alot of people seem to think.
The guy who blocked two kicks last week?McFadden just threw a (pretty much) game-ending INT
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Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
This write up from the Heisman Invite :McFadden's season started slowly. He injured his toe in a fight outside a night club in July and began the season hobbled. When he was healthy, he was the focal point of one of the country's biggest surprise teams. He finished the regular season with a school-record 1,558 yards rushing for the SEC West champions.McFadden has to be considered a long shot to take the Heisman, but if he did, he'd be the first sophomore and first Arkansas player to win it. The Razorbacks never even had a Heisman finalist.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
1. Adrian Peterson, * Oklahoma - AD is often compared to Dickerson. He has the same kind of shocking power and field speed, but he has even better change of direction. I've heard the comparison to Bo and I like it. It's all crazy high praise. The hype machine took a hit when Peterson went down or it would equal Reggie's and probably tote a Heisman too, but Peterson is better than Tomlinson. That's for sure. 
Oh yeah. He goes by AD, not AP. AD is for All Day.
2. Marshawn Lynch*, California - Very complete RB. My only concern about AD or Lynch is that they're so strong and both have such extraordinary balance that they break a ton of tackles often leaving themselves vulnerable to big hits or funky take downs. Small worries, great backs both.
3. Tyrone Moss, Miami (FL), - Guess I have some 'splainin' to do here. I look at the remaining backs and Moss is my favorite for the NFL. That's both praise for Moss' potential and criticism of this RB class. Remember when Tyrone was showing up a slow to recover Frank Gore a couple years ago? Well, he was. Then he took the starting job last year and was having an impressive season before tearing up a knee. Before the injury I ranked him equal to Maroney and a bit above Addai. Rehab didn't go well and I'm not sure about this kid mentally. A big part of rehab is mental discipline. Moss has never declared a major (last I heard). It could be he's very immature, just not a serious person. Not serious about school, not serious about rehab, if so I'll drop him a bunch. He was overweight and soft this year. A freshman (Edge's cousin) took the starting job.
It could be his injury and body are the type that needed a full two years to recover. Culpepper is on that road despite playing some. Moss could be similar. Remember Frank Gore's last knee injury? Prior to that many in the scouting/wannabe community had him on par with the Bensons, Caddies and Browns. Turns out that was the correct analysis. It just took Gore a little while to get back up to speed. Moss could be the same kind of story. It could be the rehab program at Miami brings them along slowly. But at his best, which I suspect we haven't seen yet, Tyrone Moss is the 3rd best RB in this class... easily.
4. Dwayne Wright*, Fresno St. - He did a full two years of rehab and looked great this season going over 1400 yards at 5.6 per carry. A very tough 230 pounder with very fresh legs. Drafted in a cut and go zone system, Wright could be a very nice find. When I considered last year's smaller RBs-- Bush, Norwood, Drew-- and so many were worried abou their bodies being up to the pounding, I thought it was a non issue with all of them. However, when I look at the 4 big boys atop my ratings this year, I worry about all of them taking the pounding. It's simple physics people. The bigger they come the harder they fall. Small backs have a better shot at being durable, imo.
5. Garrett Wolfe, NIU - Therefore I'm not worried about this guy being a midget. The 287 yard rushing and receiving effort against Ohio State was all I needed to see. Last year I was with those who thought he was a cute novelty smoking poor competition. This year I realized that he has the same special qualities that make Warrick Dunn a successful long-term NFL RB. Garrett Wolfe = Warrick Dunn. Hopefully Bush, Drew, Norwood, and Washington have helped people overcome smallerbackaphobia. It's just talent in the end and Wolfe has a ton. Yes, I know he is much smaller than even those small guys who some think aren't really small. I just don't care about size when the talent is so obvious.
6. Michael Bush, Louisville - If Wolfe is David, here's Goliath. Bush is a bit of a freak with a little Ron Dayne on him. Does that wash off? I mentioned in my mock that NFL scouts are talking H-Back for Bush. I wish he ran harder, lower, broke more tackles, used his size and punished DBs, drove the pile. But he skips and dances instead and does so quite impressively, by the way. He has nice moves, excellent speed and vision. In the opener this year, before breaking his leg, he carried 17 times for 128 yards and three TDs. It looked like he got the message. He ran hard in that game. He had a short TD that included a crazy spin in traffic followed by a lowered shoulder and some serious leg drive into the the endzone. Did he address the concerns about his style only to break his leg before proving us all wrong? Maybe.
7. Tony Hunt, Penn State - I've defended him before. Hunt is another good sized back and unlike Bush above, he knows how to use it. He gets the extra yards and he'll break a big one when the hole is there. He isn't the most explosive or sudden back, but he is so refined. He is a great pass blocker and a very good run blocker too. He has nice hands (led PSU in receptions as a soph). He is a workhorse with excellent vision, very often makes someone miss (ask the Buckeyes), and he is reliable in the redzone. Character and intangibles, on and off the field, remind me of Addai. He may not be the most gifted physically, but he is plug and play quality.
8. Arkee Whitlock, Southern Illinois - See 9.
9. Germaine Race, Pittsburgh State - Exactly a year ago I was calling attention to two small schoolers being completely overlooked by the experts. I felt sure they would end up getting drafted. Not Rob Rang or Chris Landry, not Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock, not Scott Wright or Frank Coyle, no one anywhere was giving either of these two guys any serious attention or any shot last December. They were Tarvaris Jackson and Ingle Martin. I was right about them, and I got a ton of praise for nailing them early (though Jackson's 1st day rise shocked me too). Martin started getting attention after the combine, and Jackson wasn't discussed much (postively anyway) until the rumors started leaking out in early April.
This year I am again impressed with a couple small schoolers who should get drafted, but not as confident as I was in the QBs. Big arms and sharp minds like Martin's and Jackson's get drafted. Small school RBs with big time numbers often have to make it as UFAs. Whitlock and Race should be different. They've both been on the scouting radar for years. Neither has missed a beat. Race was considering coming out last year. At 9 yards a carry he holds the D2 record. He made the right choice by staying in school and having another great season. Whitlock's been on the radar because he was not just different than, but better than Brandon Jacobs at SIU a couple years ago as a Sophomore. He has done nothing but improve. Race is criticized for being slow. He has a very prototypical and strong 220 pound frame. His vision, moves, power, quicks and burst are top notch. He gets to the corner very easily against lesser competition. He may be missing a top end, but he's a high quality runner who would have been an excellent starter at any college in the country. Period. Whitlock is probably better. He is extremely explosive with breakaway field speed and his power is underrated. I hate comps, especially with small schoolers, but Whitlock reminds me of Portis-- a poor man's version for sure; Race reminds me of Domanick Davis. Neither of them have been used in the passing game, and they have to be way behind on pass blocking and such, but the running talent is legit. A smart little birdy who agrees with the above being legit NFL backs tells me another small schooler, Justice Hairston, is just as good. Never saw him play.
10. Kenny Irons, Auburn - Some more 'splainin' to do? I'll put it this way. Above Irons are the RBs I think have legit NFL game. Irons and a group including but not limtied to-- Kenneth Darby, Selvin Young, Kolby Smith, Lorenzo Booker and DeShawn Wynn-- don't seem to have the juice of legit NFL RBs to me. In each case something seems lacking. Certainly some of these guys could be better than those listed 3-9, and some fine special teams talent is there. I agree each of them have very solid traits. BUT, there's a perceivable glut of RBs in the league right now, and I have a hard time seing these guys fitting in. Of the names mentioned here at 10, I probably like Young the most. Apologies to the Kenny Irons fans out there. I've been wrong before and will be wrong again.
I want to see more of Cornish and McGill. I remember being impressed with Pierre Thomas but forget why.I like Chauncey Washington, but want to see him fully tested. I'm considering Leonard a FB for now. Gary Russell is lurking our there somewhere. If I was a draft eligible junior with a grade of round 5 or higher, I would declare. Hart and Pittman being the most likely suspects. There's huge crop of Sophomore's coming eligible next year that will completely change the face of fantasy football and the NFL. I think those Sophomores are part of the reason I am so tough on this group of backs. This class probably is better than I thought now that I have gone through it more carefully.
Oh yeah. He goes by AD, not AP. AD is for All Day.
2. Marshawn Lynch*, California - Very complete RB. My only concern about AD or Lynch is that they're so strong and both have such extraordinary balance that they break a ton of tackles often leaving themselves vulnerable to big hits or funky take downs. Small worries, great backs both.
3. Tyrone Moss, Miami (FL), - Guess I have some 'splainin' to do here. I look at the remaining backs and Moss is my favorite for the NFL. That's both praise for Moss' potential and criticism of this RB class. Remember when Tyrone was showing up a slow to recover Frank Gore a couple years ago? Well, he was. Then he took the starting job last year and was having an impressive season before tearing up a knee. Before the injury I ranked him equal to Maroney and a bit above Addai. Rehab didn't go well and I'm not sure about this kid mentally. A big part of rehab is mental discipline. Moss has never declared a major (last I heard). It could be he's very immature, just not a serious person. Not serious about school, not serious about rehab, if so I'll drop him a bunch. He was overweight and soft this year. A freshman (Edge's cousin) took the starting job.
It could be his injury and body are the type that needed a full two years to recover. Culpepper is on that road despite playing some. Moss could be similar. Remember Frank Gore's last knee injury? Prior to that many in the scouting/wannabe community had him on par with the Bensons, Caddies and Browns. Turns out that was the correct analysis. It just took Gore a little while to get back up to speed. Moss could be the same kind of story. It could be the rehab program at Miami brings them along slowly. But at his best, which I suspect we haven't seen yet, Tyrone Moss is the 3rd best RB in this class... easily.
4. Dwayne Wright*, Fresno St. - He did a full two years of rehab and looked great this season going over 1400 yards at 5.6 per carry. A very tough 230 pounder with very fresh legs. Drafted in a cut and go zone system, Wright could be a very nice find. When I considered last year's smaller RBs-- Bush, Norwood, Drew-- and so many were worried abou their bodies being up to the pounding, I thought it was a non issue with all of them. However, when I look at the 4 big boys atop my ratings this year, I worry about all of them taking the pounding. It's simple physics people. The bigger they come the harder they fall. Small backs have a better shot at being durable, imo.
5. Garrett Wolfe, NIU - Therefore I'm not worried about this guy being a midget. The 287 yard rushing and receiving effort against Ohio State was all I needed to see. Last year I was with those who thought he was a cute novelty smoking poor competition. This year I realized that he has the same special qualities that make Warrick Dunn a successful long-term NFL RB. Garrett Wolfe = Warrick Dunn. Hopefully Bush, Drew, Norwood, and Washington have helped people overcome smallerbackaphobia. It's just talent in the end and Wolfe has a ton. Yes, I know he is much smaller than even those small guys who some think aren't really small. I just don't care about size when the talent is so obvious.
6. Michael Bush, Louisville - If Wolfe is David, here's Goliath. Bush is a bit of a freak with a little Ron Dayne on him. Does that wash off? I mentioned in my mock that NFL scouts are talking H-Back for Bush. I wish he ran harder, lower, broke more tackles, used his size and punished DBs, drove the pile. But he skips and dances instead and does so quite impressively, by the way. He has nice moves, excellent speed and vision. In the opener this year, before breaking his leg, he carried 17 times for 128 yards and three TDs. It looked like he got the message. He ran hard in that game. He had a short TD that included a crazy spin in traffic followed by a lowered shoulder and some serious leg drive into the the endzone. Did he address the concerns about his style only to break his leg before proving us all wrong? Maybe.
7. Tony Hunt, Penn State - I've defended him before. Hunt is another good sized back and unlike Bush above, he knows how to use it. He gets the extra yards and he'll break a big one when the hole is there. He isn't the most explosive or sudden back, but he is so refined. He is a great pass blocker and a very good run blocker too. He has nice hands (led PSU in receptions as a soph). He is a workhorse with excellent vision, very often makes someone miss (ask the Buckeyes), and he is reliable in the redzone. Character and intangibles, on and off the field, remind me of Addai. He may not be the most gifted physically, but he is plug and play quality.
8. Arkee Whitlock, Southern Illinois - See 9.
9. Germaine Race, Pittsburgh State - Exactly a year ago I was calling attention to two small schoolers being completely overlooked by the experts. I felt sure they would end up getting drafted. Not Rob Rang or Chris Landry, not Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock, not Scott Wright or Frank Coyle, no one anywhere was giving either of these two guys any serious attention or any shot last December. They were Tarvaris Jackson and Ingle Martin. I was right about them, and I got a ton of praise for nailing them early (though Jackson's 1st day rise shocked me too). Martin started getting attention after the combine, and Jackson wasn't discussed much (postively anyway) until the rumors started leaking out in early April.
This year I am again impressed with a couple small schoolers who should get drafted, but not as confident as I was in the QBs. Big arms and sharp minds like Martin's and Jackson's get drafted. Small school RBs with big time numbers often have to make it as UFAs. Whitlock and Race should be different. They've both been on the scouting radar for years. Neither has missed a beat. Race was considering coming out last year. At 9 yards a carry he holds the D2 record. He made the right choice by staying in school and having another great season. Whitlock's been on the radar because he was not just different than, but better than Brandon Jacobs at SIU a couple years ago as a Sophomore. He has done nothing but improve. Race is criticized for being slow. He has a very prototypical and strong 220 pound frame. His vision, moves, power, quicks and burst are top notch. He gets to the corner very easily against lesser competition. He may be missing a top end, but he's a high quality runner who would have been an excellent starter at any college in the country. Period. Whitlock is probably better. He is extremely explosive with breakaway field speed and his power is underrated. I hate comps, especially with small schoolers, but Whitlock reminds me of Portis-- a poor man's version for sure; Race reminds me of Domanick Davis. Neither of them have been used in the passing game, and they have to be way behind on pass blocking and such, but the running talent is legit. A smart little birdy who agrees with the above being legit NFL backs tells me another small schooler, Justice Hairston, is just as good. Never saw him play.
10. Kenny Irons, Auburn - Some more 'splainin' to do? I'll put it this way. Above Irons are the RBs I think have legit NFL game. Irons and a group including but not limtied to-- Kenneth Darby, Selvin Young, Kolby Smith, Lorenzo Booker and DeShawn Wynn-- don't seem to have the juice of legit NFL RBs to me. In each case something seems lacking. Certainly some of these guys could be better than those listed 3-9, and some fine special teams talent is there. I agree each of them have very solid traits. BUT, there's a perceivable glut of RBs in the league right now, and I have a hard time seing these guys fitting in. Of the names mentioned here at 10, I probably like Young the most. Apologies to the Kenny Irons fans out there. I've been wrong before and will be wrong again.
I want to see more of Cornish and McGill. I remember being impressed with Pierre Thomas but forget why.I like Chauncey Washington, but want to see him fully tested. I'm considering Leonard a FB for now. Gary Russell is lurking our there somewhere. If I was a draft eligible junior with a grade of round 5 or higher, I would declare. Hart and Pittman being the most likely suspects. There's huge crop of Sophomore's coming eligible next year that will completely change the face of fantasy football and the NFL. I think those Sophomores are part of the reason I am so tough on this group of backs. This class probably is better than I thought now that I have gone through it more carefully.
We are lucky to have CC on these boards.
McFadden and Slaton will be next year's Peterson and Lynch - so this year is equal when it comes to marquee guys - it's the 2nd tier - led by Ray Rice, James Davis, Jamaal Charles, and Jonathan Stewart that really blows away this year's draft eligible class.and there are already three frosh RBs I 
Mike Goodson (TAMU), Keiland Williams (LSU), C.J. Spiller (Clemson)
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ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
You like Goodson the best of those 3? I'm partial to Spiller, but I've seen more of him than the other 2.and there are already three frosh RBs I
Goodson has impressed me the most, but I've seen him the most. He's got that Bush/McFadden multifaceted threat profile. Williams is more of a bruiser, but he really jumped out at me during the Tennessee game. Spiller has some ridiculous lateral movement and change of direction. Its unfair that Clemson has both him and James Davis.I would rank Goodson tops of those three if you forced me to rank them.You like Goodson the best of those 3? I'm partial to Spiller, but I've seen more of him than the other 2.and there are already three frosh RBs I
Worst post ever.1. Adrian Peterson, * Oklahoma - AD is often compared to Dickerson. He has the same kind of shocking power and field speed, but he has even better change of direction. I've heard the comparison to Bo and I like it. It's all crazy high praise. The hype machine took a hit when Peterson went down or it would equal Reggie's and probably tote a Heisman too, but Peterson is better than Tomlinson. That's for sure.
Oh yeah. He goes by AD, not AP. AD is for All Day.
2. Marshawn Lynch*, California - Very complete RB. My only concern about AD or Lynch is that they're so strong and both have such extraordinary balance that they break a ton of tackles often leaving themselves vulnerable to big hits or funky take downs. Small worries, great backs both.
3. Tyrone Moss, Miami (FL), - Guess I have some 'splainin' to do here. I look at the remaining backs and Moss is my favorite for the NFL. That's both praise for Moss' potential and criticism of this RB class. Remember when Tyrone was showing up a slow to recover Frank Gore a couple years ago? Well, he was. Then he took the starting job last year and was having an impressive season before tearing up a knee. Before the injury I ranked him equal to Maroney and a bit above Addai. Rehab didn't go well and I'm not sure about this kid mentally. A big part of rehab is mental discipline. Moss has never declared a major (last I heard). It could be he's very immature, just not a serious person. Not serious about school, not serious about rehab, if so I'll drop him a bunch. He was overweight and soft this year. A freshman (Edge's cousin) took the starting job.
It could be his injury and body are the type that needed a full two years to recover. Culpepper is on that road despite playing some. Moss could be similar. Remember Frank Gore's last knee injury? Prior to that many in the scouting/wannabe community had him on par with the Bensons, Caddies and Browns. Turns out that was the correct analysis. It just took Gore a little while to get back up to speed. Moss could be the same kind of story. It could be the rehab program at Miami brings them along slowly. But at his best, which I suspect we haven't seen yet, Tyrone Moss is the 3rd best RB in this class... easily.
4. Dwayne Wright*, Fresno St. - He did a full two years of rehab and looked great this season going over 1400 yards at 5.6 per carry. A very tough 230 pounder with very fresh legs. Drafted in a cut and go zone system, Wright could be a very nice find. When I considered last year's smaller RBs-- Bush, Norwood, Drew-- and so many were worried abou their bodies being up to the pounding, I thought it was a non issue with all of them. However, when I look at the 4 big boys atop my ratings this year, I worry about all of them taking the pounding. It's simple physics people. The bigger they come the harder they fall. Small backs have a better shot at being durable, imo.
5. Garrett Wolfe, NIU - Therefore I'm not worried about this guy being a midget. The 287 yard rushing and receiving effort against Ohio State was all I needed to see. Last year I was with those who thought he was a cute novelty smoking poor competition. This year I realized that he has the same special qualities that make Warrick Dunn a successful long-term NFL RB. Garrett Wolfe = Warrick Dunn. Hopefully Bush, Drew, Norwood, and Washington have helped people overcome smallerbackaphobia. It's just talent in the end and Wolfe has a ton. Yes, I know he is much smaller than even those small guys who some think aren't really small. I just don't care about size when the talent is so obvious.
6. Michael Bush, Louisville - If Wolfe is David, here's Goliath. Bush is a bit of a freak with a little Ron Dayne on him. Does that wash off? I mentioned in my mock that NFL scouts are talking H-Back for Bush. I wish he ran harder, lower, broke more tackles, used his size and punished DBs, drove the pile. But he skips and dances instead and does so quite impressively, by the way. He has nice moves, excellent speed and vision. In the opener this year, before breaking his leg, he carried 17 times for 128 yards and three TDs. It looked like he got the message. He ran hard in that game. He had a short TD that included a crazy spin in traffic followed by a lowered shoulder and some serious leg drive into the the endzone. Did he address the concerns about his style only to break his leg before proving us all wrong? Maybe.
7. Tony Hunt, Penn State - I've defended him before. Hunt is another good sized back and unlike Bush above, he knows how to use it. He gets the extra yards and he'll break a big one when the hole is there. He isn't the most explosive or sudden back, but he is so refined. He is a great pass blocker and a very good run blocker too. He has nice hands (led PSU in receptions as a soph). He is a workhorse with excellent vision, very often makes someone miss (ask the Buckeyes), and he is reliable in the redzone. Character and intangibles, on and off the field, remind me of Addai. He may not be the most gifted physically, but he is plug and play quality.
8. Arkee Whitlock, Southern Illinois - See 9.
9. Germaine Race, Pittsburgh State - Exactly a year ago I was calling attention to two small schoolers being completely overlooked by the experts. I felt sure they would end up getting drafted. Not Rob Rang or Chris Landry, not Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock, not Scott Wright or Frank Coyle, no one anywhere was giving either of these two guys any serious attention or any shot last December. They were Tarvaris Jackson and Ingle Martin. I was right about them, and I got a ton of praise for nailing them early (though Jackson's 1st day rise shocked me too). Martin started getting attention after the combine, and Jackson wasn't discussed much (postively anyway) until the rumors started leaking out in early April.
This year I am again impressed with a couple small schoolers who should get drafted, but not as confident as I was in the QBs. Big arms and sharp minds like Martin's and Jackson's get drafted. Small school RBs with big time numbers often have to make it as UFAs. Whitlock and Race should be different. They've both been on the scouting radar for years. Neither has missed a beat. Race was considering coming out last year. At 9 yards a carry he holds the D2 record. He made the right choice by staying in school and having another great season. Whitlock's been on the radar because he was not just different than, but better than Brandon Jacobs at SIU a couple years ago as a Sophomore. He has done nothing but improve. Race is criticized for being slow. He has a very prototypical and strong 220 pound frame. His vision, moves, power, quicks and burst are top notch. He gets to the corner very easily against lesser competition. He may be missing a top end, but he's a high quality runner who would have been an excellent starter at any college in the country. Period. Whitlock is probably better. He is extremely explosive with breakaway field speed and his power is underrated. I hate comps, especially with small schoolers, but Whitlock reminds me of Portis-- a poor man's version for sure; Race reminds me of Domanick Davis. Neither of them have been used in the passing game, and they have to be way behind on pass blocking and such, but the running talent is legit. A smart little birdy who agrees with the above being legit NFL backs tells me another small schooler, Justice Hairston, is just as good. Never saw him play.
10. Kenny Irons, Auburn - Some more 'splainin' to do? I'll put it this way. Above Irons are the RBs I think have legit NFL game. Irons and a group including but not limtied to-- Kenneth Darby, Selvin Young, Kolby Smith, Lorenzo Booker and DeShawn Wynn-- don't seem to have the juice of legit NFL RBs to me. In each case something seems lacking. Certainly some of these guys could be better than those listed 3-9, and some fine special teams talent is there. I agree each of them have very solid traits. BUT, there's a perceivable glut of RBs in the league right now, and I have a hard time seing these guys fitting in. Of the names mentioned here at 10, I probably like Young the most. Apologies to the Kenny Irons fans out there. I've been wrong before and will be wrong again.
I want to see more of Cornish and McGill. I remember being impressed with Pierre Thomas but forget why.I like Chauncey Washington, but want to see him fully tested. I'm considering Leonard a FB for now. Gary Russell is lurking our there somewhere. If I was a draft eligible junior with a grade of round 5 or higher, I would declare. Hart and Pittman being the most likely suspects. There's huge crop of Sophomore's coming eligible next year that will completely change the face of fantasy football and the NFL. I think those Sophomores are part of the reason I am so tough on this group of backs. This class probably is better than I thought now that I have gone through it more carefully.
If you knew anything about college football, you would realize that Kenny Irons has been playing dinged up the entire season. He played most of the season on a sprained ankle. When healthy, he is as good as anybody coming out this season. But I guess you will just have to wait and find that out for yourself next season.DeShawn Wynn will also be a solid RB.
Gandalf
Footballguy
Agreed. Pretty much the only thing that Lynch has in common with Arriginton is UCal. And a large factor in Arrington's struggles is due to Arizona where even the great Edge James is averaging 3.2 yards per carry.
coolnerd
Footballguy
See the poster's signature. Irons was a nice solid player when healthy, but does not possess any dynamic characteric when you are projecting him to the NFL. Probably a solid NFL player who can contribute immediately, but I would place a lot more money on Peterson or Lynch becoming dominate impact players in thier careers.Worst post ever.1. Adrian Peterson, * Oklahoma - AD is often compared to Dickerson. He has the same kind of shocking power and field speed, but he has even better change of direction. I've heard the comparison to Bo and I like it. It's all crazy high praise. The hype machine took a hit when Peterson went down or it would equal Reggie's and probably tote a Heisman too, but Peterson is better than Tomlinson. That's for sure.
Oh yeah. He goes by AD, not AP. AD is for All Day.
2. Marshawn Lynch*, California - Very complete RB. My only concern about AD or Lynch is that they're so strong and both have such extraordinary balance that they break a ton of tackles often leaving themselves vulnerable to big hits or funky take downs. Small worries, great backs both.
3. Tyrone Moss, Miami (FL), - Guess I have some 'splainin' to do here. I look at the remaining backs and Moss is my favorite for the NFL. That's both praise for Moss' potential and criticism of this RB class. Remember when Tyrone was showing up a slow to recover Frank Gore a couple years ago? Well, he was. Then he took the starting job last year and was having an impressive season before tearing up a knee. Before the injury I ranked him equal to Maroney and a bit above Addai. Rehab didn't go well and I'm not sure about this kid mentally. A big part of rehab is mental discipline. Moss has never declared a major (last I heard). It could be he's very immature, just not a serious person. Not serious about school, not serious about rehab, if so I'll drop him a bunch. He was overweight and soft this year. A freshman (Edge's cousin) took the starting job.
It could be his injury and body are the type that needed a full two years to recover. Culpepper is on that road despite playing some. Moss could be similar. Remember Frank Gore's last knee injury? Prior to that many in the scouting/wannabe community had him on par with the Bensons, Caddies and Browns. Turns out that was the correct analysis. It just took Gore a little while to get back up to speed. Moss could be the same kind of story. It could be the rehab program at Miami brings them along slowly. But at his best, which I suspect we haven't seen yet, Tyrone Moss is the 3rd best RB in this class... easily.
4. Dwayne Wright*, Fresno St. - He did a full two years of rehab and looked great this season going over 1400 yards at 5.6 per carry. A very tough 230 pounder with very fresh legs. Drafted in a cut and go zone system, Wright could be a very nice find. When I considered last year's smaller RBs-- Bush, Norwood, Drew-- and so many were worried abou their bodies being up to the pounding, I thought it was a non issue with all of them. However, when I look at the 4 big boys atop my ratings this year, I worry about all of them taking the pounding. It's simple physics people. The bigger they come the harder they fall. Small backs have a better shot at being durable, imo.
5. Garrett Wolfe, NIU - Therefore I'm not worried about this guy being a midget. The 287 yard rushing and receiving effort against Ohio State was all I needed to see. Last year I was with those who thought he was a cute novelty smoking poor competition. This year I realized that he has the same special qualities that make Warrick Dunn a successful long-term NFL RB. Garrett Wolfe = Warrick Dunn. Hopefully Bush, Drew, Norwood, and Washington have helped people overcome smallerbackaphobia. It's just talent in the end and Wolfe has a ton. Yes, I know he is much smaller than even those small guys who some think aren't really small. I just don't care about size when the talent is so obvious.
6. Michael Bush, Louisville - If Wolfe is David, here's Goliath. Bush is a bit of a freak with a little Ron Dayne on him. Does that wash off? I mentioned in my mock that NFL scouts are talking H-Back for Bush. I wish he ran harder, lower, broke more tackles, used his size and punished DBs, drove the pile. But he skips and dances instead and does so quite impressively, by the way. He has nice moves, excellent speed and vision. In the opener this year, before breaking his leg, he carried 17 times for 128 yards and three TDs. It looked like he got the message. He ran hard in that game. He had a short TD that included a crazy spin in traffic followed by a lowered shoulder and some serious leg drive into the the endzone. Did he address the concerns about his style only to break his leg before proving us all wrong? Maybe.
7. Tony Hunt, Penn State - I've defended him before. Hunt is another good sized back and unlike Bush above, he knows how to use it. He gets the extra yards and he'll break a big one when the hole is there. He isn't the most explosive or sudden back, but he is so refined. He is a great pass blocker and a very good run blocker too. He has nice hands (led PSU in receptions as a soph). He is a workhorse with excellent vision, very often makes someone miss (ask the Buckeyes), and he is reliable in the redzone. Character and intangibles, on and off the field, remind me of Addai. He may not be the most gifted physically, but he is plug and play quality.
8. Arkee Whitlock, Southern Illinois - See 9.
9. Germaine Race, Pittsburgh State - Exactly a year ago I was calling attention to two small schoolers being completely overlooked by the experts. I felt sure they would end up getting drafted. Not Rob Rang or Chris Landry, not Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock, not Scott Wright or Frank Coyle, no one anywhere was giving either of these two guys any serious attention or any shot last December. They were Tarvaris Jackson and Ingle Martin. I was right about them, and I got a ton of praise for nailing them early (though Jackson's 1st day rise shocked me too). Martin started getting attention after the combine, and Jackson wasn't discussed much (postively anyway) until the rumors started leaking out in early April.
This year I am again impressed with a couple small schoolers who should get drafted, but not as confident as I was in the QBs. Big arms and sharp minds like Martin's and Jackson's get drafted. Small school RBs with big time numbers often have to make it as UFAs. Whitlock and Race should be different. They've both been on the scouting radar for years. Neither has missed a beat. Race was considering coming out last year. At 9 yards a carry he holds the D2 record. He made the right choice by staying in school and having another great season. Whitlock's been on the radar because he was not just different than, but better than Brandon Jacobs at SIU a couple years ago as a Sophomore. He has done nothing but improve. Race is criticized for being slow. He has a very prototypical and strong 220 pound frame. His vision, moves, power, quicks and burst are top notch. He gets to the corner very easily against lesser competition. He may be missing a top end, but he's a high quality runner who would have been an excellent starter at any college in the country. Period. Whitlock is probably better. He is extremely explosive with breakaway field speed and his power is underrated. I hate comps, especially with small schoolers, but Whitlock reminds me of Portis-- a poor man's version for sure; Race reminds me of Domanick Davis. Neither of them have been used in the passing game, and they have to be way behind on pass blocking and such, but the running talent is legit. A smart little birdy who agrees with the above being legit NFL backs tells me another small schooler, Justice Hairston, is just as good. Never saw him play.
10. Kenny Irons, Auburn - Some more 'splainin' to do? I'll put it this way. Above Irons are the RBs I think have legit NFL game. Irons and a group including but not limtied to-- Kenneth Darby, Selvin Young, Kolby Smith, Lorenzo Booker and DeShawn Wynn-- don't seem to have the juice of legit NFL RBs to me. In each case something seems lacking. Certainly some of these guys could be better than those listed 3-9, and some fine special teams talent is there. I agree each of them have very solid traits. BUT, there's a perceivable glut of RBs in the league right now, and I have a hard time seing these guys fitting in. Of the names mentioned here at 10, I probably like Young the most. Apologies to the Kenny Irons fans out there. I've been wrong before and will be wrong again.
I want to see more of Cornish and McGill. I remember being impressed with Pierre Thomas but forget why.I like Chauncey Washington, but want to see him fully tested. I'm considering Leonard a FB for now. Gary Russell is lurking our there somewhere. If I was a draft eligible junior with a grade of round 5 or higher, I would declare. Hart and Pittman being the most likely suspects. There's huge crop of Sophomore's coming eligible next year that will completely change the face of fantasy football and the NFL. I think those Sophomores are part of the reason I am so tough on this group of backs. This class probably is better than I thought now that I have gone through it more carefully.
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Highway Robbery
Footballguy
Great post by CC, with nice insight, some guys I hadn't heard of before.
I agree that the 08 draft will be stronger but this one will be good.
I agree that the 08 draft will be stronger but this one will be good.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
For those who haven't seen Germaine Race,
I hate RB highlights because they always show the longest runs which generally mean the back is gliding through a big hole and this footage is no different. The section from 2:40 to 3:10 shows his vision, feet, power and "speed" nicely though. These highlights reminded me a lot of DeAngelo Williams, but Race is more powerful than explosive. I can't get the Whitlock highlights to work for me. If you can, they probably feature a bunch of Barry Sanders type runs. Whitlock goes north and south and hits holes very hard and isn't just a shifty dancer, but those plays may dominate a highlight reel. Also, I'd like to see these if anyone has any advice.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I know. The Nortos won't offend me and maybe they're right about Irons and I am wrong. Like he said, we wait and see. I agree with your comment though. He is simply not dynamic in any category accept physical fitness. I don't like how Irons translates.
The Whitlock reel is Quicktime download it if you dont have it.And it is quite impressive. Sanders is a good compare, as is a guy I compared to Sanders earlier this year, Maurice Jones-Drew. Runs low and powerful and changes direction sharply at full speed. Thanks for casting the spotlight on him.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Ever? Evah!!??Worst post ever.
That's sayin' something around here. I follow college football to the point of obsession, btw. I am well aware of Irons' three missed games, the games he played hobbled, the toe, the ankle and the thigh. I could probably write short text book on Kenny Irons from his days at South Carolina to his disappointing last season at Auburn. I have 15 of his games from the last two years recorded, including the awesome LSU game from last year and the very disappointing Capital One Bowl game and the Wazzu game that got so many pumped opening this season. For the record, here at FBG, I was strongly subduing the hype before he got hurt this year when he was being hailed the best back in the country. He is slow, lacks quicks, has limited lateral ability, questionable hands, and a ton of heart. He is great condition and fights for every yard, but physically he doesn't measure up and athletically he isn't NFL quality. My .02.LOL...the nortos? That is funny.
BigJim®
Footballguy
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I am curious to hear what people think of Mike Hart. He's had an amazing college career, but seems to have absolutely nothing that NFL scouts are looking for. He is undersized and slow.
I have been impressed with his vision, ability to shed tacklers (the first man never brings him down), he has great cutting ability, never fumbles, a great blocker, catches the ball and is a fiery leader. He is the best Michigan back I have ever seen, but I really question his chances in the pro game.
I have been impressed with his vision, ability to shed tacklers (the first man never brings him down), he has great cutting ability, never fumbles, a great blocker, catches the ball and is a fiery leader. He is the best Michigan back I have ever seen, but I really question his chances in the pro game.
Pauli Walnuts
Footballguy
Reminds me of Westbrook. When he adds 10 - 15 lbs after turning pro next year (he's not coming out early) he has a shot a being something special down the line. He needs the right offense and a year or so to find his place in said offense and he should be a solid rb2.
Sopranos
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I also agree, but for me it is huge praise for Lynch and not downgrading Peterson. They are both so very very complete, freakishly strong, great cuts, vision, acceleration bla bla bla...agreed.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Negative views of Hart will read much like my low opinion of Irons. I like Hart though. I've seen him make too many extra yards in very tough situations to be critical of his measureables. I think it's crazy strength and balance with him. He reminds me a little of Priest Holmes, but he has a long long way to go to earn that comparison. Anyway, he wants to beat Ohio State so bad he's going to risk millions and come out with a bunch of next year's Sophomores. Mistake, imo. He was too good this year, I doubt he can improve much, and this year's class doesn't have the depth next year will... I think. It's very hard to judge how many will come out early, but the risk is there for Hart to really fall if enough declare. Someone asked what I thought of Hart and Pittman... I would put them both above Tony Hunt. With all the question marks surrounding Wright, Bush and Wolfe, that is a nice place to be in the draft, even if Irons grades much much higher than I think he does.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
1st of all I just want to say thank you to everyone sharing information on the rookie prospects coming out. It is really helpful to me because I do not watch college football. I just cannot stand how poorly college teams play defense compared to the NFL. It makes me sick to my stomach. So I cannot bear to watch it.
That being said I do have a couple small bones to pick with Chaos Commish.
1. Please tell me you are joking when you say that Adrian Peterson is better than LT. I think you are but if you are not..
2. I know we are all wrong in evaluating talent some(often) times but IIRC you totaly shot down the possibility of Owen Daniels being a decent TE prospect for the Texans. I only bring this to your attention so that you may be a bit more objective about players drafted into good situations and the possibility that team scouts might see somthing in those players that you did not.
That being said I do have a couple small bones to pick with Chaos Commish.
1. Please tell me you are joking when you say that Adrian Peterson is better than LT. I think you are but if you are not..
2. I know we are all wrong in evaluating talent some(often) times but IIRC you totaly shot down the possibility of Owen Daniels being a decent TE prospect for the Texans. I only bring this to your attention so that you may be a bit more objective about players drafted into good situations and the possibility that team scouts might see somthing in those players that you did not.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
1. I was joking.1st of all I just want to say thank you to everyone sharing information on the rookie prospects coming out. It is really helpful to me because I do not watch college football. I just cannot stand how poorly college teams play defense compared to the NFL. It makes me sick to my stomach. So I cannot bear to watch it.That being said I do have a couple small bones to pick with Chaos Commish.1. Please tell me you are joking when you say that Adrian Peterson is better than LT. I think you are but if you are not..
2. You got the wrong guy. I liked Daniels. I pitched him as a great athlete converted from QB, very strong, nice hands, good speed and a better blocker than any of the higher rated TEs but Fasano. I even predicted a zone blocking team like Denver or Houston would be interested, and I pitched his advancement at Wisconsin in that scheme. If I ever shot him down, I'd like to see and review those comments. I may not have ranked him as high as he deserved. Few did. But I remember being pretty high on him as a prospect. I don't remember saying anything negative unless ranking Davis, Lewis, Fasano, Scheffler, Pope, Klopfenstien, Byrd and Day above him was negative. 
I prefer to think I was wrong about others not Daniels. I did like him, but anyone trying to forecast this stuff will be wrong a l o t. And that was a deeeeep class of TEs.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
1. Thank gawd1. I was joking.1st of all I just want to say thank you to everyone sharing information on the rookie prospects coming out. It is really helpful to me because I do not watch college football. I just cannot stand how poorly college teams play defense compared to the NFL. It makes me sick to my stomach. So I cannot bear to watch it.That being said I do have a couple small bones to pick with Chaos Commish.1. Please tell me you are joking when you say that Adrian Peterson is better than LT. I think you are but if you are not..
2. okay sorry bout that then must have been someone else. I just know I was asking posters here who are much more knowledgable of college players than I am (which doesen't take that much) about Owen Daniels prospects and they were totaly dismissed. Thankfully I rostered him anyways. I like his prospects a lot moving forward in that offense.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
No problem. I'm curious. Someone around here has talked about watching Daniels since HS. Is that you? See, that's the type of input that I agree people like me (junky draftniks) should pay closer attention too. If that was you, and I did listen, then I would have been closer to getting those rankings right. I tend to favor the players I see the most, which generally means the PAC 10 gets bumped. Byrd and Day never should have been ranked above Daniels, but even NFL scouting departments only got that half right. We should probably redirect this to RBs...
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Stop watching the Pac-10 down?1st of all I just want to say thank you to everyone sharing information on the rookie prospects coming out. It is really helpful to me because I do not watch college football. I just cannot stand how poorly college teams play defense compared to the NFL. It makes me sick to my stomach. So I cannot bear to watch it.
That being said I do have a couple small bones to pick with Chaos Commish.
1. Please tell me you are joking when you say that Adrian Peterson is better than LT. I think you are but if you are not..
2. I know we are all wrong in evaluating talent some(often) times but IIRC you totaly shot down the possibility of Owen Daniels being a decent TE prospect for the Texans. I only bring this to your attention so that you may be a bit more objective about players drafted into good situations and the possibility that team scouts might see somthing in those players that you did not.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
It is all of college football imho Rbs get sick ammounts of yards in games in college much more than they ever would in the NFL because the defenses are inferior. Pac 10 is probobly the worst for defense but it is all of college football and I rarely watch any of it because of this.Joe Shmoe Rb in college can put up multiple 200 yard games against sorry college defenses and not even be able to make a pro teams roster. It is a huge difference.Stop watching the Pac-10 down?1st of all I just want to say thank you to everyone sharing information on the rookie prospects coming out. It is really helpful to me because I do not watch college football. I just cannot stand how poorly college teams play defense compared to the NFL. It makes me sick to my stomach. So I cannot bear to watch it.
That being said I do have a couple small bones to pick with Chaos Commish.
1. Please tell me you are joking when you say that Adrian Peterson is better than LT. I think you are but if you are not..
2. I know we are all wrong in evaluating talent some(often) times but IIRC you totaly shot down the possibility of Owen Daniels being a decent TE prospect for the Texans. I only bring this to your attention so that you may be a bit more objective about players drafted into good situations and the possibility that team scouts might see somthing in those players that you did not.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I agree didn't mean to hijack this very good thread.Here is the link to talk about Daniels last offseason http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=241375
My memory was wrong about what was said there. Must be mixed up with some other negative stuff I read about him around that same time.
It wasn't me that watched Daniels at all before he came into the NFL. I just had a hunch about him from stuff I read and liked his opportunity with the Texans that is all.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Another guy who should be on the radar for '08 or '09 is Marlon Lucky. When he finally emerges from the TBBC in Nebraska (and my guess is that happens next year) he's going to explode in a big way. He needs to work on being a tougher runner between the tackles, but his size, speed, acceleration, vision, and pass catching ability are all top shelf. For 07, I think there is more of a gap between Peterson and Lynch than some others. His talent level is on par with Reggie Bush, but he is a pure RB prospect. I don't think there is such a thing as "can't miss" but barring durability issues I think AD is as close as it gets.
