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2010 Pro Bowl to be played before Super Bowl (1 Viewer)
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Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
The more I think about it, the more I like it. Having the Pro Bowl in the host city the week before will get most of the good players in town to celebrate the game. There will acutally be something to watch in the off-week and it adds hype for the SB with something more substantial than the normal garbage. I think people who come to town for the game might come a bit early to take in the atmosphere and maybe attend the Pro Bowl.
The Pro Bowl becomes an appetizer for the main course instead of a bland dessert. It's not a real game but it's something leading up to the most important game. Throw in the NFL Experience and the other Pro Bowl activities and the host city has a carnival atmosphere for a good couple of weeks.
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The Pro Bowl becomes an appetizer for the main course instead of a bland dessert. It's not a real game but it's something leading up to the most important game. Throw in the NFL Experience and the other Pro Bowl activities and the host city has a carnival atmosphere for a good couple of weeks.
I say
weasel3515
Footballguy
It can't be any worse than the current game nobody cares about. I seriously doubt any Super Bowl player would set foot on the field and risk injury so that would make it interesting to see all of the alternates who play. Those who lost the previous week in the conference championship games may have some sour grapes and not play also. But I agree with an earlier poster that it will create more interest for both the Super Bowl and the Pro Bowl. It should also increase attendance and viewership. It's either this or kill the Pro Bowl entirely.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
It says none of the players in the conference championship games will. So it will be the Pro Bowl minus players from the 4 best teams. I guess the game wasn't enough of a sham under the current system. This plan is no big deal. It really doesn't make much difference to me what weekend I don't watch the Pro Bowl.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
The best teams don't always have the best individual players. Odds are guys like ADP, Brees, Andre Johnson, Boldin, Fitz and Warner will be the kind of talent participating (I don't see the Cards and Vikes in the title games, for example). Plenty of talent to watch.
MaddHatter
Footballguy
What's new? Last year, we got to see Derek Anderson & Jeff Garcia light up Honolulu.
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
I like the idea. Can't be any worse the current setup IMO.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
This is a great idea. No one cares after the Superbowl so no reason not to see if they won't before it.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I agree, can't be any worse.Big problem imo is the "game" itself. Football just isn't like baseball/basketball, you can't have a half-hearted game out there without leaving people open to injury. I think a skills competition with big checks going to charities in the players home cities would be much more interesting to watch and good PR for the league. A skills competition would also lend itself to being drawn out over several days or even a week or two before the superbowl as well. One day you have the NFL fastest man. Another day you might have strongest player in the NFL. Another day the most accurate deep ball passer. Another day most accurate long kicker. Etc, etc. It's the "game" itself that sucks.
TheWick
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
Sure there's plenty of talent, but if my Conference Championship projections hold, this year we wouldn't be seeing Peyton or Eli Manning, Ben, J. Harrison, Polamalu... or DeAngelo Williams
kneeshooter
Footballguy
I always thought this would go over very well. Award points to the winner of each competition, and finish it all off with a college-football-overtime type competition, where each conference tries to score multiple times from the opponents 25 yard line. Overall points total gets bragging rights.
BigJim®
Footballguy
I agree that it really can't get worse than what's being done with a probowl today, but I'm not sure this game ever has much significance. Most fans realize this 'tradition' has become a Hawaii vacation interrupted by a no-defense scrimmage. But can this game ever overcome the fact that guys will not risk injury going full out to win? Can the NFL consistently 'force' players to go to a venue, for example if the game was in Indianapolis in the winter? That's probably the last thing on the mind of players who just went through a grueling season, many of whom just had their hearts torn out during playoffs. But if they can make this work by moving the game, I'm all for it.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I think this is also Senior Bowl Week, which might make it a challenge for some coaching staffs. Most go to the Senior Bowl that week at least Mon-Thurs for practices and meetings.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Dumb.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. The hell with the Pro Bowl, I want to see the leagues worst team play the college All-Stars. Years ago the SB champs played the All-Stars, and that was too lopsided, but I think the best college All-Stars could give the Lions a run for their money.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Doing this will make players going to the Pro Bowl mean even less cause you are going to have a ton of players not going. When even more players don't go, then they have to pick replacements who also get the title of "Pro Bowl player".
Don't bother with the game and just have a light hearted skill competition between the Pro Bowl players who want to show up and give them some cash. This way the Pro Bowl title isn't watered down, and I happen to find a skill competition of who can throw the furthest, etc. more entertaining than a crappy pro bowl game.
Don't bother with the game and just have a light hearted skill competition between the Pro Bowl players who want to show up and give them some cash. This way the Pro Bowl title isn't watered down, and I happen to find a skill competition of who can throw the furthest, etc. more entertaining than a crappy pro bowl game.
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Super King
Footballguy
That would be fun to watch.
simsarge
Footballguy
I like it too, but how do you get the Lions (or whomever) to take a month off and then play a bunch of kids for really nothing. Plus if the NFL can't get anyone to watch an All-star game, how will they get anyone to watch the worst team in the league play? Maybe since it is Senior Bowl week, do something to combine the two?Super King said:JohnnyU said:That would be fun to watch.
morris4903
Footballguy
The Pro Bowl just needs be done away with. Players don't want to play in it and the ones that do don't play to their fullest capabilities. I give credit to the NFL for trying to create more interest in the game, but the Pro Bowl just doesn't work. The problem is what else can you do? The other ideas in this thread aren't going to create any more interest or intrigue than the Pro Bowl. NFL is in a tough spot.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Maybe play it as the Hall of Fame Game.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
ed zacharywho cares when they play it. i wont be watchingTheWick said:Uber said:
That's pretty easy, since the entirety of the playing time usually takes less than 15 minutes of clock time.
The college all-stars wouldn't fare well against, e.g., Michigan State. They would do even worse against the Lions. The Lions would run the offense/defense they've practiced all year while the college all-stars would try to install a rudimentary offense/defense in a week or twJohnnyU said:
n talent alone the Lions would win, but with the edge in preparation it would be like 100-0.
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Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Probably not enough high-quality players to pull this off, but theoretically, a "Rookies vs Sophomores" game like the NBA does during All-Star Weekend might be pretty cool. Or even pool the Rookies and Sophomores and go AFC vs NFC.
What kind of lineups could be constructed under those two formats? QBs and kicking specialists could be a challenge in a given year.
What kind of lineups could be constructed under those two formats? QBs and kicking specialists could be a challenge in a given year.
Wildman
Footballguy
I think Andy D. put it best earlier. From the theoretical marketing standpoint, it's great. But unless you force the players to play, which isn't going to happen, then I think we'll see players turn it down for a number of reasons.
Not that Miami isn't a fun town (or Phoenix, Tampa, San Diego, etc.) but don't you think part of the reward of making the Pro Bowl is going to Hawaii? That's my guess. If they have more cold-weather towns considered for SB sites, then it's going to backfire even more.
If anything, I wish the NFL rotated the Super Bowl to towns that didn't automatically have 65-85 degree weather and sunshine but I'm sure the business thinking behind the decision is they'll lose sales and opportunities to make it the pageant that it has become.
They need focus first on the way players are voted into the game first. Then they can worry about making it an attraction that appeals to fans and players alike.
Not that Miami isn't a fun town (or Phoenix, Tampa, San Diego, etc.) but don't you think part of the reward of making the Pro Bowl is going to Hawaii? That's my guess. If they have more cold-weather towns considered for SB sites, then it's going to backfire even more.
If anything, I wish the NFL rotated the Super Bowl to towns that didn't automatically have 65-85 degree weather and sunshine but I'm sure the business thinking behind the decision is they'll lose sales and opportunities to make it the pageant that it has become.
They need focus first on the way players are voted into the game first. Then they can worry about making it an attraction that appeals to fans and players alike.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
How about having an awards special show and then an MVP presentation kind of like the way college does. It would probably get better ratings and would also make the MVP a more interesting award to see all the finalists in a room together.
Jimmy James
Footballguy
If we're going to have a Pro Bowl, this is the way to do it.
As an alternative, I like the skills competition idea for the vets, but I would also add a rookie game of some sort. If a worst team in the league versus college all stars would be ill advised from a league marketing perspective, perhaps they could do a rookies versus college seniors game. If that doesn't fly, go with the normal AFC rookies versus NFC rookies. Buy insurance for every player that will cover their rookie contract (or $2 million for late rounders) so guys aren't afraid to play. Give the winners $250,000 each.
As an alternative, I like the skills competition idea for the vets, but I would also add a rookie game of some sort. If a worst team in the league versus college all stars would be ill advised from a league marketing perspective, perhaps they could do a rookies versus college seniors game. If that doesn't fly, go with the normal AFC rookies versus NFC rookies. Buy insurance for every player that will cover their rookie contract (or $2 million for late rounders) so guys aren't afraid to play. Give the winners $250,000 each.
ratbast
Footballguy
Each team should choose representatives from it's practice squads. Then, have them play a true game. It will be played hard and the players will gain interest because of it. There's probably too many road blocks but it seems this would make sense and be somewhat interesting. I would watch whomever my team has in the game and hope for a gold nugget.
