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How? That's Patrick Willis, right?'Go deep said:You win'papalazarou said:Gave: Flacco, Tebow, Willis, PeppersGot: Schaub, 1,04, 2.08, 2.16, 3.04
How? That's Patrick Willis, right?'Go deep said:You win'papalazarou said:Gave: Flacco, Tebow, Willis, PeppersGot: Schaub, 1,04, 2.08, 2.16, 3.04
Im not sure of the IDP scoring, but im a Zealots guy, and IDP's dont score highly. Willis is still pretty valuable, but i would trade him and Peppers for the 1.4. I would take Schaub over Flacco, and the 2.08 over Tebow. Plus i get the 2,16 and 3.04 in a deep draft for free. If somehow Julio Jones, Ingram or Green slide to the 1.4 i would likely trade everything in that trade for the 1.4.How? That's Patrick Willis, right?'Go deep said:You win'papalazarou said:Gave: Flacco, Tebow, Willis, PeppersGot: Schaub, 1,04, 2.08, 2.16, 3.04
You think?This is a slaughter.Adp over best & Lloyd by a mile, and I'm a best fan
I haven't played Zealots, but in IDP it doesn't get much better than Willis. I wouldn't even need Tebow to take the Flacco/Willis side in the deal for those picks.Im not sure of the IDP scoring, but im a Zealots guy, and IDP's dont score highly. Willis is still pretty valuable, but i would trade him and Peppers for the 1.4. I would take Schaub over Flacco, and the 2.08 over Tebow. Plus i get the 2,16 and 3.04 in a deep draft for free. If somehow Julio Jones, Ingram or Green slide to the 1.4 i would likely trade everything in that trade for the 1.4.How? That's Patrick Willis, right?'Go deep said:You win'papalazarou said:Gave: Flacco, Tebow, Willis, PeppersGot: Schaub, 1,04, 2.08, 2.16, 3.04
In my league, Willis finished as the 9th best LB. If the draft goes to plan, I get Nate Irving with 2.08 and Quinn with 2.16, giving me similar production as willis and Peppers but younger.I haven't played Zealots, but in IDP it doesn't get much better than Willis. I wouldn't even need Tebow to take the Flacco/Willis side in the deal for those picks.Im not sure of the IDP scoring, but im a Zealots guy, and IDP's dont score highly. Willis is still pretty valuable, but i would trade him and Peppers for the 1.4. I would take Schaub over Flacco, and the 2.08 over Tebow. Plus i get the 2,16 and 3.04 in a deep draft for free. If somehow Julio Jones, Ingram or Green slide to the 1.4 i would likely trade everything in that trade for the 1.4.How? That's Patrick Willis, right?'Go deep said:You win'papalazarou said:Gave: Flacco, Tebow, Willis, PeppersGot: Schaub, 1,04, 2.08, 2.16, 3.04
Ouch... is that all Stevie is worth? I don't think I'd take anything less than a top 4 or 5 pick for him. Did you trade to grab a specific player at slot?gave S. Johnson & 3.06got 1.08
While I'm a beleiver in Johnson, I guess not everyone is. In one of my league's Johnson was traded for the 1.11 and Anthony Armstrong. When the guy that was to receive Johnson asked me what I though, I told him to jump on it.Some may feel he was a one hit wonder, but as some one that saw a number of his games, I think he's the "real deal". Of course I do think Ryan Fitzpatrick may turn back into a pumpkin this season though.Ouch... is that all Stevie is worth? I don't think I'd take anything less than a top 4 or 5 pick for him. Did you trade to grab a specific player at slot?gave S. Johnson & 3.06got 1.08
You won! TYou not only got Bradshaw over Manningham, but you got the sucker to give you a high 2nd & a high 3rd and you threw in garbage. I like Manningham more than most, but this is big in your favor.What do you think about this trade?Mario manningham, 3.12, 4.12 and 2012 2nd rounder forA. Bradshaw, 2.03, 3.03, 4.03 and 2012 4th rounderIm the team that got bradshaw and have MJD and Mendy as rb, Bowe, Austin and S. Johnson at WR. I have 1.03 so i'll get ingram, jones or green and i upgrade my 3rd starting RB and start stockpiling picks for what im hoping is a good draft class. For reference QBs are Ryan and Tebow so i think im good but was going to grab a QB with that 2.03. New to dynasty trading so im wondering what thoughts are on it
You should look more at what Willis has done since coming into the league rather than just last year, and Peppers is overrated in FF. Irving and Quinn haven't even played a down in the NFL. IDP studs don't just fall out of the sky. Players like Willis, Urlacher, and Ray Lewis are rare. There's a billion to one chance Nate Irving will produce like Willis. Irving and Quinn are far from Willis's value. He is an absolute beast! Do better homework.In my league, Willis finished as the 9th best LB. If the draft goes to plan, I get Nate Irving with 2.08 and Quinn with 2.16, giving me similar production as willis and Peppers but younger.I haven't played Zealots, but in IDP it doesn't get much better than Willis. I wouldn't even need Tebow to take the Flacco/Willis side in the deal for those picks.Im not sure of the IDP scoring, but im a Zealots guy, and IDP's dont score highly. Willis is still pretty valuable, but i would trade him and Peppers for the 1.4. I would take Schaub over Flacco, and the 2.08 over Tebow. Plus i get the 2,16 and 3.04 in a deep draft for free. If somehow Julio Jones, Ingram or Green slide to the 1.4 i would likely trade everything in that trade for the 1.4.How? That's Patrick Willis, right?'Go deep said:You win'papalazarou said:Gave: Flacco, Tebow, Willis, PeppersGot: Schaub, 1,04, 2.08, 2.16, 3.04
Zealots scoring is IDP lite (I am in 3 of them)...the highest rated dude was rated 58th or so in 2010. This is one of those cases where if you are not familiar with scoring probably not commenting is better (though you have the right to).'SproutDaddy said:I haven't played Zealots, but in IDP it doesn't get much better than Willis. I wouldn't even need Tebow to take the Flacco/Willis side in the deal for those picks.Im not sure of the IDP scoring, but im a Zealots guy, and IDP's dont score highly. Willis is still pretty valuable, but i would trade him and Peppers for the 1.4. I would take Schaub over Flacco, and the 2.08 over Tebow. Plus i get the 2,16 and 3.04 in a deep draft for free. If somehow Julio Jones, Ingram or Green slide to the 1.4 i would likely trade everything in that trade for the 1.4.How? That's Patrick Willis, right?'Go deep said:You winGave: Flacco, Tebow, Willis, PeppersGot: Schaub, 1,04, 2.08, 2.16, 3.04
Ill take those odds. If Nate Irving wins a 3 down ILB job in Denver i could see him finishing as a LB 1/2. He likely wont outscore Willis, but i could see him finishing close, which you say is a billion to one. I cant imagine any kind of league where i would take Willis over the 1.4. This trade is actually not even that close for me. Although i could see it being a lttle closer in heavy IDP scoring leagues.'SproutDaddy said:You should look more at what Willis has done since coming into the league rather than just last year, and Peppers is overrated in FF. Irving and Quinn haven't even played a down in the NFL. IDP studs don't just fall out of the sky. Players like Willis, Urlacher, and Ray Lewis are rare. There's a billion to one chance Nate Irving will produce like Willis. Irving and Quinn are far from Willis's value. He is an absolute beast! Do better homework.'papalazarou said:In my league, Willis finished as the 9th best LB. If the draft goes to plan, I get Nate Irving with 2.08 and Quinn with 2.16, giving me similar production as willis and Peppers but younger.'SproutDaddy said:I haven't played Zealots, but in IDP it doesn't get much better than Willis. I wouldn't even need Tebow to take the Flacco/Willis side in the deal for those picks.Im not sure of the IDP scoring, but im a Zealots guy, and IDP's dont score highly. Willis is still pretty valuable, but i would trade him and Peppers for the 1.4. I would take Schaub over Flacco, and the 2.08 over Tebow. Plus i get the 2,16 and 3.04 in a deep draft for free. If somehow Julio Jones, Ingram or Green slide to the 1.4 i would likely trade everything in that trade for the 1.4.How? That's Patrick Willis, right?'Go deep said:You winGave: Flacco, Tebow, Willis, Peppers
Got: Schaub, 1,04, 2.08, 2.16, 3.04
That is a lot for Wallace. I am a fan, but I would not pay that much.12 Team PPR
Team A Gave:
Mike Wallace
Team B Gave:
Brandon Marshall
Santonio Holmes
I have mixed emotions. Could make an argument either way.
I agree. I don't know if there's a bigger fan of his than me, and I hated to let him go. I've never been a Holmes fan, but the value was too great to pass up.That is a lot for Wallace. I am a fan, but I would not pay that much.12 Team PPR
Team A Gave:
Mike Wallace
Team B Gave:
Brandon Marshall
Santonio Holmes
I have mixed emotions. Could make an argument either way.
Only trade he really got taken on was the Felix one. Crabtree and a 1st is a decent return for Mathews in a PPR. Think he won the Cooley/Keller trade easily, but it's the most minor one for sure.Well people started paying their fees in my league I commish and all hell broke loose in like 2-3 days of trading.12 team ppr, QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, K, RB/WR/TE flexTeam A gave up: Garrard, David JAC QB; Crabtree, Michael SFO WR; Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.09Team B gave up: Manning, Eli NYG QB; Mathews, Ryan SDC RB; Houshmandzadeh, T.J. BAL WRTeam B gave up: Jones, Felix DAL RBTeam C gave up: Grant, Ryan GBP RB; Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.10Team E gave up: Orton, Kyle DEN QB; Keller, Dustin NYJ TE; Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.11Team B gave up: Garrard, David JAC QB; Dwyer, Jonathan PIT RB; Cooley, Chris WAS TETeam B isn't the smartest fantasy owner ever and pretty sure everyone would like to have him in their league.
I think you haven't seen many bad trades.'papalazarou said:Opinions on the worst trade I have ever seen:Team A gave M Forte, B CushingTeam B gave P Willis
Colston's knees are a big problem. I'd rather have Boldin/Grant/1.09.'TheWick said:12 Team PPRA - Colston, 1.11B - Boldin, Ryan Grant, 1.09
In the same league, a trade that got pulled:Team A offered Spiller, Gilyard forTeam B : A JohnsonFeels like I am playing with abject idiots at timesI think you haven't seen many bad trades.'papalazarou said:Opinions on the worst trade I have ever seen:Team A gave M Forte, B CushingTeam B gave P Willis
Now THAT would have been terrible.In the same league, a trade that got pulled:Team A offered Spiller, Gilyard forTeam B : A JohnsonFeels like I am playing with abject idiots at times
Colston side is better'TheWick said:12 Team PPRA - Colston, 1.11B - Boldin, Ryan Grant, 1.09
both those trades are terrible.In the same league, a trade that got pulled:Team A offered Spiller, Gilyard forTeam B : A JohnsonFeels like I am playing with abject idiots at timesI think you haven't seen many bad trades.'papalazarou said:Opinions on the worst trade I have ever seen:Team A gave M Forte, B CushingTeam B gave P Willis
The worst of it was that the owner of Team A thinks he was doing a favour to the owner of Team B by offering as much as Spiller and Gilyard.Now THAT would have been terrible.In the same league, a trade that got pulled:Team A offered Spiller, Gilyard forTeam B : A JohnsonFeels like I am playing with abject idiots at times
And the cherry on the cake:Team A gave 1.01Team B gave 1.07, WittenThe worst of it was that the owner of Team A thinks he was doing a favour to the owner of Team B by offering as much as Spiller and Gilyard.Now THAT would have been terrible.In the same league, a trade that got pulled:Team A offered Spiller, Gilyard forTeam B : A JohnsonFeels like I am playing with abject idiots at times
I prefer the 1.1, but it is pretty close.And the cherry on the cake:Team A gave 1.01Team B gave 1.07, WittenThe worst of it was that the owner of Team A thinks he was doing a favour to the owner of Team B by offering as much as Spiller and Gilyard.Now THAT would have been terrible.In the same league, a trade that got pulled:Team A offered Spiller, Gilyard forTeam B : A JohnsonFeels like I am playing with abject idiots at times
That is a hard one for me Jay, RR should rebound this year on performance and carries I like that part, moreno never stayed healthy, britt is a freak beast.....however..with the new QB...britt should go down in rating.Best of luck with that.16-team PPR/IDP
I gave Moreno, Britt, 1.10
I got Ray Rice
Before - Vick, Charles, Moreno, DAW, Nicks, Jennings, Austin, Britt, Dallas Clark, Cook (Bold are starters with DAW or Britt as alternate flex options)
After - Vick, Charles, Rice, DAW, Nicks, Jennings, Austin, Dallas Clark, Cook (Bold are starters with DAW as only alternat depth/flex option)
He's worth a lot more than the #8. I just had the #5 pick straight up rejected, and in my two startups that included rookies Johnson went a few picks before the 4th rookie. I personally wouldn't trade him for a rookie pick, but it looks like using market values you should expect to offer the #3 or better to land him.Ouch... is that all Stevie is worth? I don't think I'd take anything less than a top 4 or 5 pick for him. Did you trade to grab a specific player at slot?
This was a steal getting Charles for Greene, a future first and a small pick upgrade. Everything else you gave up was fodder, imo.Just made a block buster in my PPR 12 man dyansty league (I get Charles give up a ton of players/picks)I really hate giving up on S-Greene and all those picks.Thoughts ?Charlotte gave up:Henne, Chad MIA QBGreene, Shonn NYJ RBWhite, Blair IND WRBoss, Kevin NYG TEAnderson, James CAR LBYear 2011 Draft Pick 2.03Year 2012 Round 1 Draft Pick from CharlotteYear 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from CharlotteYear 2012 Round 3 Draft Pick from CharlottePuerto Rico gave up:Charles, Jamaal KCC RBYear 2011 Draft Pick 2.12Year 2011 Draft Pick 6.03Year 2011 Draft Pick 6.09
Nice trade, wish i could give up a bunch of junk for the best player in dynasy PPR's.Just made a block buster in my PPR 12 man dyansty league (I get Charles give up a ton of players/picks)I really hate giving up on S-Greene and all those picks.Thoughts ?Charlotte gave up:Henne, Chad MIA QBGreene, Shonn NYJ RBWhite, Blair IND WRBoss, Kevin NYG TEAnderson, James CAR LBYear 2011 Draft Pick 2.03Year 2012 Round 1 Draft Pick from CharlotteYear 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from CharlotteYear 2012 Round 3 Draft Pick from CharlottePuerto Rico gave up:Charles, Jamaal KCC RBYear 2011 Draft Pick 2.12Year 2011 Draft Pick 6.03Year 2011 Draft Pick 6.09
I couldn't get a 2nd round pick for Smith in my league and you gave up a 1st ? Not sure I would do that I guess your praying he gets out of Carolina.If he stays in Carolina he is near worthless (I know had him his whole career) but if he goes to SD he could have a few more good years.Seems like you should have been able to get him cheaper considering I can't get a 2nd for him.GAVE:Lance Moore and 1.11GOT:Carolina Steve Smith
Green sideIn my FFPC $750 PPR dynasty league this trade was just made by 2 other peopleTraded Away: Roddy White (ATL) 2012 Draft, Rnd 1 2012 Draft, Rnd 4Acquired: Jeremy Maclin (PHI) A.J. Green (CIN) 2012 Draft, Rnd 2 2012 Draft, Rnd 3
You need people's thoughts on this? I like Shonn Green and all but you basically paid nothing for Charles.Just made a block buster in my PPR 12 man dyansty league (I get Charles give up a ton of players/picks)I really hate giving up on S-Greene and all those picks.Thoughts ?
I can't even get Maclin straight up for Roddy in a couple of my leagues, let alone AJ Green thrown in.In my FFPC $750 PPR dynasty league this trade was just made by 2 other peopleTraded Away: Roddy White (ATL) 2012 Draft, Rnd 1 2012 Draft, Rnd 4Acquired: Jeremy Maclin (PHI) A.J. Green (CIN) 2012 Draft, Rnd 2 2012 Draft, Rnd 3
pretty fair, but i would take the 1.3.Vincent Jackson for pick 1.3