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2011 offseason dynasty trades (1 Viewer)
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r0llin_game
Footballguy
Team A by a lot in the first. Team B in the second one by a bit less than the 1st
loose circuits
Footballguy
hope that is Jimmy Graham not Earnest
gianmarco
Footballguy
It is Jimmy.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
lol, was definitely thinking Earnest. Close but still team A.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
id take the vernon side in a dynasty.Would I getOR
if I did this trade in my PPR dynastyI give: GoreI get: V.Davis, 1.9, 2.9(I know, I'm sneaky)
bigern1000
Footballguy
I agree that he has been extremely difficult to move, especially in one of my 14-team PPRs. However, with Ryan Williams already rostered there and the 1.01 in the upcoming diluted rookie draft, i'd think it would be a pretty decent scenario if NE drafts either him or Leshoure...
Cassius
Footballguy
I think it's close, whether or not I would do it if I were you depends on the rest of your roster.Would I get
bigern1000
Footballguy
I agree with the winners on the above, not sure if I'm on the convincingly part, though, as 1 and 2 are not too far apart...
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
4 1st round picks for Marshall? Sold.
loose circuits
Footballguy
wow, I's take the picks and Armstrong
Seriously. Wow.
Wow. Team B must really like Benson.
Eastwood
Footballguy
Ford owner sold him way to low IMO.
thurston4040
Footballguy
I'd sayWould I get
thurston4040
Footballguy
I like Marshall a bunch, but give me the 4 1st rd picks
I would want to see the rosters of the teams those picks correspond to and how the rest of the league looks. If I thought all of those picks would most likely end up in the 1.8~1.12 range, I would probably prefer Marshall & Benson. My guess is that the 1.11 & 1 of those 2012's were team B's which just got even better by acquiring the 2 vets. So the wild card is the quality of roster on the teams those other 2 2012's originally belonged to.
TheWick
Footballguy
The 2012 picks were from what I considered to be 1 top 4 team and 2 of the bottom 6 teams. None of the picks were from the team receiving Marshall and Benson.
I can post all the rosters, but my take on it was worst case 1.5,1.6, and 1.12 for the 2012s.
My team has quite a few picks this year also, if I draft well I could have a serious contender next year. I usually don't handle dynos this way so it will be interesting.
I can post all the rosters, but my take on it was worst case 1.5,1.6, and 1.12 for the 2012s.
My team has quite a few picks this year also, if I draft well I could have a serious contender next year. I usually don't handle dynos this way so it will be interesting.
If one of those two poorer teams ends up with a high pick I think it will have been worth it. I love marshall, but it's hard to argue with the knuckleheadness.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr
Team I gave up
Bradford, Sam STL QB;
Huggins, Kareem TBB RB;
Robinson, Laurent STL WR;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.08;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.08
Team H gave up
Flacco, Joe BAL QB;
Collie, Austin IND WR;
White, Blair IND WR;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.01
Team I gave up
Bradford, Sam STL QB;
Huggins, Kareem TBB RB;
Robinson, Laurent STL WR;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.08;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.08
Team H gave up
Flacco, Joe BAL QB;
Collie, Austin IND WR;
White, Blair IND WR;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.01
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
loose circuits
Footballguy
Is the difference between Brees and Rodgers really that much?
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Not even close. Risk on Collie is no worse than risk on any pick outside of the top 3. We know his upside - top 5 WR. Collie is worth 1.4+.
Eastwood
Footballguy
Short term, I'd say no. But my team here is rebuilding, so I thought getting 5 years younger at QB might be worth it. I have the 1.3-1.7 plus 1.11 rookie picks, so figure I'll restock some RB depth.
loose circuits
Footballguy
guess I must like Starks & Wells more than you cause I love this rookie RB class, but still wouldn't do this deal. Then again I also think Jacoby Jones is on his last leg as well and basically worthless
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fairly big trade just completed
12 team PPR Dynasty, start 2RB/2WR/1TE and can flex any of them
Gave up:
1.03
1.06
D Clark
Got:
Bowe
V Davis
1.11
I hated giving up the 1.03, but it could have been Ingram in a timeshare somewhere... and I am still very weak at RB2 but getting 2 young proven players is key to my rebuilding project (which is odd for a team i just drafted six weeks ago).
Current Roster:
Roth, Sanchez, Tebow, A Smith
CJ, Scott, Ringer, K Smith
Dez, Bowe, Thomas, Knox, J Jones, LaFell, Hester
V Davis, Olsen, Tamme
1.01, 1.08, 1.09, 1.11 and 2.05
12 team PPR Dynasty, start 2RB/2WR/1TE and can flex any of them
Gave up:
1.03
1.06
D Clark
Got:
Bowe
V Davis
1.11
I hated giving up the 1.03, but it could have been Ingram in a timeshare somewhere... and I am still very weak at RB2 but getting 2 young proven players is key to my rebuilding project (which is odd for a team i just drafted six weeks ago).
Current Roster:
Roth, Sanchez, Tebow, A Smith
CJ, Scott, Ringer, K Smith
Dez, Bowe, Thomas, Knox, J Jones, LaFell, Hester
V Davis, Olsen, Tamme
1.01, 1.08, 1.09, 1.11 and 2.05
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I would pay that for Rodgers all day every day. Although I do not see Wells or Starks ever becoming top 10 backs. The 1.6 should yield a good prospect and you get THE stud QB who is 5-6 years younger.
loose circuits
Footballguy
if I was you, I'd trade down to 1.03 if you can get value. Looks like your team is pretty good at WR not so good at RB. If Ingram goes already, just grab Leshoure
How do you end up with the 1.01, 1.03, 1.06, 1.08, and 1.09 in just six weeks?
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
He could have drafted many of the picks in his start-up draft? I know some leagues do that.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Disagree. He had 3 concussions in the matter of 6 weeks. He makes of his living going across the middle into linebackers. Unless something changes with him, i can't see how he stays upright.
since this was a Dynasty start up, i drafted the 1.03 Rookie at the 5.03 spot (which is the 1.03, 2.10 and 3,03), and made four total trades. It was my second trade earlier in this thread that netted me the 1.01 an 1.08 (for VJax and DWill + smaller parts). I was basically going into rebuild mode until this trade when i could convert some of the pics into established younger players. Once the rookie draft is over i will post in the AC section what i gave up and what i got. I will admit that i usually "tank" at least one of the skill positions with all my teams and right now it is RB2.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Obviously you can spin it both ways. He had 1 very bad concussion and was rushed back to help with a playoff run, and that mistake by Indy led to 2 more concussions. Aaron Rodgers (most likely) had 3 concussions last year. At least 2. DeSean Jackson had almost as brutal a one as Collie had and didn't go over the middle the rest of the year because of it. No one is junking the value of those players. What will you get at 1.8? DeMarco Murray, Randall Cobb? Not going to overpay for Collie, but those are gambles, and if the gamble on Collie pays it's a high payout.'fruity pebbles said:
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
That makes it even worse. They think the key to causing no long term damage is not subjecting a player to an additional concussion while stll recovering from the 1st. Collie most likely suffered from two while still recovering from the 1st one. I understand your point but he is literally probably one more bad hit from being all but done playing football. I'd rather take my chances on a mid round rookie in a good situation. Or better yet trade that pick for someone who i feel is going to be around long term.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I tend to agree with you and I was Team H (the team trading away Collie). I wasn't actively shopping him around and wasn't all that worried about the concussion issues (although of course it was in the back of my mind). I was approached by the other owner asking about Collie and that was the deal we worked out. I only made the deal because I wanted Bradford badly, and would not have traded Collie for the 1.8 straight up.ETA: Collie's market value is down however, as three owners in my league all made the same comment that 1.8 > Collie. I don't agree with that necessarily but those looking to buy or sell Collie should keep that in mind..
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I wasn't involved in this trade but I'm curious what others think. I'm not a huge Beanie Wells guys anymore but this seemed like a real low price to acquire him. I think Mannigham did most of his damage while Nicks and Smith were out with injury but I do know he has his beleivers - what was surprising to me was that the owner dealing Wells needed to do the draft pick upgrades (although they were only a minor ones). It's a 12 team ppr league.
Team S gave up
Hightower, Tim ARI RB;
Wells, Chris ARI RB;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.03;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.10
Team G gave up
Manningham, Mario NYG WR;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.07;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09
ETA: What made it worse imo was that Team S traded Greg Jennings and a 2011 third round pick to get Wells, Hightower and Blount a day or two before flipping Wells/Hightower for this.
Team S gave up
Hightower, Tim ARI RB;
Wells, Chris ARI RB;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.03;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.10
Team G gave up
Manningham, Mario NYG WR;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.07;
Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09
ETA: What made it worse imo was that Team S traded Greg Jennings and a 2011 third round pick to get Wells, Hightower and Blount a day or two before flipping Wells/Hightower for this.
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floods
Footballguy
I don't understand trading Jennings either. After the trade for Manningham the team was left with a WR of Branch/Manningham. I would've tried to move Blount for something of more value and kept Hightower/Wells as RB3/Flex and hope Wells figures it out. Hopefully the owner can move a RB for a WR, as this is a 3 WR PPR league.
loose circuits
Footballguy
he could have done a lot better than Blount/Manningham
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Kinda funny. After i just spent the night knocking Collie, i just traded for him. If the value is right i guess. Still am uneasy about the guy but the risk/reward seemed ok at this level.
2.01 (17th pick) and a 3rd in 2012 for Collie
2.01 (17th pick) and a 3rd in 2012 for Collie
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Agreed. Collie >>> 1.08'thriftyrocker said:
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