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2012 In Season Dynasty Trade Thread (2 Viewers)
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doowain
Footballguy
Good lord. Someone got a haul for Ryan. I'll take the Romo/Ridley/Britt side every time. And I'm not even a big Ridley fan.
NCPanthersFan
Footballguy
Sent a 1st and Jake Locker for Cam Newton. 14 Team.
12 team PPR deals that have been offered by me but rejected in the past week
Give: Newton, Daniel Thomas, 2 2013 1st
Get: RG3 and LeShoure
Give: 2 2013 1st
Get: Stewart
Give: Ingram, Stevie Johnson, V Cruz and 2013 1st
Get: R Bush, Cobb, Fitz
Give: Torrey Smith, Stevie Johnson, 2013 4th
Get: Cobb, 2 2013 3rds
Give: Ryan Williams, 2013 1st
Get: Stewart
All offered by me, all rejected.
Give: Newton, Daniel Thomas, 2 2013 1st
Get: RG3 and LeShoure
Give: 2 2013 1st
Get: Stewart
Give: Ingram, Stevie Johnson, V Cruz and 2013 1st
Get: R Bush, Cobb, Fitz
Give: Torrey Smith, Stevie Johnson, 2013 4th
Get: Cobb, 2 2013 3rds
Give: Ryan Williams, 2013 1st
Get: Stewart
All offered by me, all rejected.
I was in the pool
Footballguy
When did this become the thread for trade proposals?
Couple of trades
I gave: Shane Vereen
I got: 2013 2nd(2.1-2.3)
In this league, we only have to start 1 RB, and I'm set at the position. I'm hoping to flip this pick into a 2014 1st closer to draft time.
I gave: Torrey Smith, Kenny Britt
I got: Matt Ryan
Guy I was trading with already has RG3 and scoring 4/1, 25/1 (so RG3>Ryan). I needed a QB and am very stocked at WR. Relevant lineup is 1 QB, 2 WR, and 2 FLEX. Interested in thoughts on this one.
I gave: Shane Vereen
I got: 2013 2nd(2.1-2.3)
In this league, we only have to start 1 RB, and I'm set at the position. I'm hoping to flip this pick into a 2014 1st closer to draft time.
I gave: Torrey Smith, Kenny Britt
I got: Matt Ryan
Guy I was trading with already has RG3 and scoring 4/1, 25/1 (so RG3>Ryan). I needed a QB and am very stocked at WR. Relevant lineup is 1 QB, 2 WR, and 2 FLEX. Interested in thoughts on this one.
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I was in the pool
Footballguy
If you end up with a 14 1st i like the first one.Not a huge fan of the second one as that is selling low on the WRs and buying high on Ryan.
Tau837
Footballguy
Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
I like the trade just fine. Kenny Britt is a question mark now. If he comes all the way back and is a stud, then oops... but if he doesn't, his trade value plummets. I like Torrey Smith, but don't think he is a stud. There is some risk that the WRs you gave up blow up, but you cannot get something without giving something. I like Matt Ryan to stay very productive as long as his weapons stay healthy.
another win now trade in 12 team PPR, start 2RB/2WR/TE can flex any
Gave:
D Wilson
Miller
2 2013 2nds
Got:
Sproles
L Moore
12 team graded PPR, start 2RB/2WR/TE can flex any
Gave:
2013 1st (mid to late)
Sanders
Got:
O Daniels (my TEs are Finley, Fleener and Allen, so i needed help this year)
14 team graded PPR with Devy players, start 2RB/3WR/TE can flex any
Gave:
2013 2nd
2014 2nd
Got:
P Thomas (needed a warm body at RB)
Gave:
D Wilson
Miller
2 2013 2nds
Got:
Sproles
L Moore
12 team graded PPR, start 2RB/2WR/TE can flex any
Gave:
2013 1st (mid to late)
Sanders
Got:
O Daniels (my TEs are Finley, Fleener and Allen, so i needed help this year)
14 team graded PPR with Devy players, start 2RB/3WR/TE can flex any
Gave:
2013 2nd
2014 2nd
Got:
P Thomas (needed a warm body at RB)
EBF
Footballguy
14 team ppr dynasty with developmental players. 6 pts per passing TD.
Gave: QB Matt Barkley
Got: WR Cecil Shorts
Big risk for me. Then again, I'm not really a fan of sitting on QB prospects unless I think they're really special. I like Barkley well enough, but don't really consider him an awesome can't-miss talent. Meanwhile I need another WR for now and the future. Shorts seems like a guy on the cusp of big things. With another good game or two, he will become untouchable. I think there is also some fluke risk with him, but that's the only reason why I was able to get him for this price.
Gave: QB Matt Barkley
Got: WR Cecil Shorts
Big risk for me. Then again, I'm not really a fan of sitting on QB prospects unless I think they're really special. I like Barkley well enough, but don't really consider him an awesome can't-miss talent. Meanwhile I need another WR for now and the future. Shorts seems like a guy on the cusp of big things. With another good game or two, he will become untouchable. I think there is also some fluke risk with him, but that's the only reason why I was able to get him for this price.
"The Waterboy"
Footballguy
Question: Would you offer up Rice or DMC in a trade to upgrade at other positions?? Am I over-thinking this or what, but why am I leaning towards offering up Rice????? I just get this feeling that DMC's going to explode and Rice will plod along with his usual effort....the ROS is definitely in favor of DMC but there's the distant future to worry about??? Anyone want to throw out some opinion's on this?????
WB
WB
Red Herring
Footballguy
Team A - Schaub, M ; Crabtree, M
for
Team B - Johnson, Calvin, Cook J
for
Team B - Johnson, Calvin, Cook J
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Really?
You're wrong about him sucking. Over-rated? Yes, but there aren't many decent FF rbs.
Red Herring
Footballguy
Yep, really. Team A has a history of really odd (read:bad-looking) trades. More than a few work out for her, but this one is a big-time head-scratcher considering Team A already has Cam and Flacco at QB.
Some recent trades from different leagues. I was involved in only a couple. All 12 team ppr, start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE.
#1
Team A (contending) receives: Rashad Jennings
Team B (rebuilding) receives: Santonio Holmes
#2
Team C (rebuilding) receives: Ballard, PIT D, 2013 3rd (mid-late)
Team D (contending) receives: CHI D (#33 overall scorer)
#2
Team E (rebuilding) receives: Weeden + 2nd (mid-late)
Team F (contending) receives: Greene
#4
Team G (contending) receives: Vick
Team E (rebuilding) receives: Bradford
#5 (both contenders)
Team H receives: Bowe + Tamme
Team I receives: Daniels + Randle
#6
Team J receives: 1st (mid-late) + Meachem
Team K receives: Reggie Bush
#1
Team A (contending) receives: Rashad Jennings
Team B (rebuilding) receives: Santonio Holmes
#2
Team C (rebuilding) receives: Ballard, PIT D, 2013 3rd (mid-late)
Team D (contending) receives: CHI D (#33 overall scorer)
#2
Team E (rebuilding) receives: Weeden + 2nd (mid-late)
Team F (contending) receives: Greene
#4
Team G (contending) receives: Vick
Team E (rebuilding) receives: Bradford
#5 (both contenders)
Team H receives: Bowe + Tamme
Team I receives: Daniels + Randle
#6
Team J receives: 1st (mid-late) + Meachem
Team K receives: Reggie Bush
Give: Matt Stafford, Lance Moore, DeAngelo Williams
Get: Demaryius Thomas, Kenny Britt, Josh Freeman
The skeleton of that trade had been offered and was sitting out there for several weeks, but the other owner was too gun-shy about Stafford. Last week's game against Seattle put his mind to rest. He added DeAngelo to his wish list as a lottery ticket, praying for a trade before the deadline tomorrow (or at least for Williams to get cut and wind up somewhere worthwhile this offseason). Also worth noting that QBs tend to command strong value on the trading block in this league, with top guys rarely changing hands unless there's a top 10 RB or WR involved.
Get: Demaryius Thomas, Kenny Britt, Josh Freeman
The skeleton of that trade had been offered and was sitting out there for several weeks, but the other owner was too gun-shy about Stafford. Last week's game against Seattle put his mind to rest. He added DeAngelo to his wish list as a lottery ticket, praying for a trade before the deadline tomorrow (or at least for Williams to get cut and wind up somewhere worthwhile this offseason). Also worth noting that QBs tend to command strong value on the trading block in this league, with top guys rarely changing hands unless there's a top 10 RB or WR involved.
Tau837
Footballguy
Great trade for you IMO, especially if you have another strong QB, meaning Freeman becomes your #2 QB.
He's my #3 behind Brees and Roeth.
I was in the pool
Footballguy
I don't think Shorts sees the starting lineup too much on good FF teams. If looking to sell Barkley, I would wait until rookie hype kicks up.
I was in the pool
Footballguy
Fair deal to me, would probably try to move that 1st into 2014 in the offseason.
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Almas_4th_Child
Footballguy
Last week in a 12 team PPR, I had the 2nd lowest PPG and am 3-4. I decided to call off the dogs and play for next season.
I traded: Romo, Spiller, Bowe, Manningham, Meachem, Balt D
I got: Stafford, MJD, D. Murray, Alex Green, P. Garcon, Pettigrew
I needed depth at RB very badly. Only have Spiller, Beanie, B. Powell, W. Powell, Hillis
I traded: Romo, Spiller, Bowe, Manningham, Meachem, Balt D
I got: Stafford, MJD, D. Murray, Alex Green, P. Garcon, Pettigrew
I needed depth at RB very badly. Only have Spiller, Beanie, B. Powell, W. Powell, Hillis
JPeso
Footballguy
Gimme Dez all day.ewww
JPeso
Footballguy
Nice job
JPeso
Footballguy
Nice work
JPeso
Footballguy
So you dealt Spiller, a horse RB at top 6 PPG average for two injured RBs and one that can't average even 10 points per with nothing else in the backfield?
JPeso
Footballguy
Yeah, need to get more than this. Not a Barkley fan really but Shorts?
JPeso
Footballguy
DT alone is worth what you gave. Getting another top 20 WR and a top 15 QB is wild.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
The guy responsible for this has just done this trade.Saughton Seahawks will giveTurner, Michael ATL RBTo Corstorphine Cowboys forIngram, Mark NOS RBYear 2013 Round 3 Draft Pick from Craigentinny ChargersYear 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Corstorphine CowboysI give up. Seriously. That's a fine trade for a contender but really.Did anyone ask Cowboys what he hoped to gain by this deal? Especially being 0-7.It's really not even justifiable imo. Greene is the same age as Peterson and nowhere near the same ballpark from a talent or production perspective. Brown has really failed to establish himself as a true feature back, with this being his best season ever and not that all impressive. I think the odds are better than average that neither will be a feature back next season.The rest of the package is a crapshoot. It doesn't even look like they tried to make it look close here.Sorry but this one fascinates me, as it seems like it should tear a league apart - especially based on the fact that these two owners are the only ones that know eachother outside of the league.The reaction wasn't great. This isn't the first lopsided multi player for one stud type deal between these two teams. The two guys know each other (no other league members know each other personally) and I'm beginning to suspect shenanigans.Cowboys typically makes terrible trades though and if I wasn't so concerned about the reaction I'd be looking to replace him.I'm curious what was the league's reaction to this deal? An 0-7 team trades away a top dynasty RB (even if he is 27), and gets 2 RBs that could likely not even be starting RBs next year, a marginal WR and two decent (at best) draft picks.Something just seems way off on this one.How does that trade help an 0-7 team? There's something wrong going on there, unless the Cowboys owner is just totally clueless.Not me involved. Fwiw cowboys are 0-7 but don't have their first in either 13 or 14Forrester Park Thunder gave up:Brown, Donald IND RBGreene, Shonn NYJ RBJones, Donald BUF WRYear 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Forrester Park ThunderYear 2013 Round 3 Draft Pick from Craigentinny ChargersCorstorphine Cowboys gave upeterson, Adrian MIN RB
Concept Coop
Footballguy
You got the 2 best players in the deal, by a wide margin. The most valuable thing you gave up was a draft pick in a weak class.
I have Moore and Britt as a wash in my rankings. Moore has a much higher floor, Britt has a much higher ceiling. Based on how the rest of our rosters stacked up, that swap was beneficial for both parties (I have lots of startable depth, he needed a quality every-week starter to replace Demaryius). Basically the trade boiled down to Stafford for Demaryius, which I obviously like (since I did it), but which honestly probably represents market value for a QB of Stafford's caliber in this league. Mostly because I don't think either of us considered Bay Bay a top5 receiver like some do.'JPeso said:
Just went down in a 12 team ppr. The commish is leaving at the end of the season.
The commish gave up Jackson, Fred BUF RB;Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB;Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR;Graham, Jimmy NOS TE
Team B gave up Best, Jahvid DET RB;Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB;Nelson, Jordy GBP WR;Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE
I'm not involved.
The commish gave up Jackson, Fred BUF RB;Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB;Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR;Graham, Jimmy NOS TE
Team B gave up Best, Jahvid DET RB;Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB;Nelson, Jordy GBP WR;Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE
I'm not involved.
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
Moore and britt are not close value wise, regardless of your rankings you sold short here big time. I would love to trade Moore and even a decent 2013 1st for britt
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Almas_4th_Child
Footballguy
I'm not a believer in Spiller long term. He's averaged 11.2 PPG the last 5 weeks. Demarco Murray has produced over 10 points every game he's played this season and MJD all but two. So I'm not sure who you're talking about. The deal is me downgrading at two positions, but upgrading at 4. It's a clear buy low on Garcon, MJD, D. Murray, Pettigrew, Stafford...they all weren't producing/injured when I obtained them.'JPeso said:
Concept Coop
Footballguy
14 Team, Non-PPR QRRWWFF (TE=WR)
Gave:
Q. Dalton
M. Wallace
M. Austin
Got:
D. Brees
D. Bowe
Gave:
Q. Dalton
M. Wallace
M. Austin
Got:
D. Brees
D. Bowe
Drinkin Buddy
Footballguy
Trade in my dynasty PPR league:
Peyton Manning
Lloyd
for
Shady McCoy
Team trading away McCoy is panicker and needed QB help.
Peyton Manning
Lloyd
for
Shady McCoy
Team trading away McCoy is panicker and needed QB help.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I like the deal for you, too. MJD will be back for another 2 high end seasons. Murray's injury prone tag is faulty. Stafford is a clear upgrade. And Garcon was treated as a throw in - he's not. Murray is 1-2 O-Line pieces from being a top 5-7 RB. He missed 4 games in college, over a 4 year span in which he got crazy touches. Only missed 1 game over his final 2 seasons at OU(A 19 year old can't handle 20 BIG12 touches a game?! China Doll!). His only two injuries in the NFL were awkward contact injuries that could happen to anyone. He was landed on or rolled up on both times. It happens. Nothing chronic or reoccuring. Well done. No-brainer for me.
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
Awful trade. McCoy is a top 1-3 dynasty back and a clear 1st round startup pick. For a top 7-9 QB and Brandon Lloyd?Trade in my dynasty PPR league
Tau837
Footballguy
Graham and Gronk are essentially a wash.Bowe, Stewart, Jackson >>> Jordy, Moreno, Best
LOL.......Love the lengthy explanation but at today's value that deal is grand theft and you know it.
Obviously I like the trade. I made it, didn't I? I just don't see how it's grand theft. Demaryius is pretty much market value for Stafford- the last three trades involving a top QB were Stafford for Mathews and Blackmon in the offseason, Brees for VJax and a first two years ago, and Rodgers for Turner and Smiff three years ago. Vick went for Cruz this last offseason. As I said, QBs are pricey.As for Moore... The guy's essentially been a quality wr2 in 3 of the past 4 seasons, is just 29, and Brees loves him. Perennially underrated, but he just keeps putting up starter-caliber numbers. The other guy specifically added Moore for Britt because he wanted someone he could count on as a starter to replace Bay Bay. QB values are all over the map from league to league, and maybe in some leagues that'd be theft, but in mine it's just the cost of doing business. Now, speaking of theft- immediately after that deal went through, the Peterson owner offered him to me for Freeman, Dwyer, and a 2013 first (top 3). He's stacked at RB, desperate at QB (and, as you've seen, QBs are hard to come by), and really getting old throughout the roster... But I don't think there's any context one could give that would make that anything other than theft.
cstu
Footballguy
Team A gave up McGahee, Willis DEN RB
Team B gave up Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick (late)
Team C gave up Henderson, Devery NOS WR; Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick (probably top 6)
Team D gave up Richardson, Daryl STL RB
Team E gave up Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR
Team F gave up Pettigrew, Brandon DET TE; Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick (middle-late);Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick (middle-late)
Team G gave up Kerley, Jeremy NYJ WR
Team H gave up Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick
Team B gave up Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick (late)
Team C gave up Henderson, Devery NOS WR; Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick (probably top 6)
Team D gave up Richardson, Daryl STL RB
Team E gave up Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR
Team F gave up Pettigrew, Brandon DET TE; Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick (middle-late);Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick (middle-late)
Team G gave up Kerley, Jeremy NYJ WR
Team H gave up Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick
