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Agree, don't think it will happen, but would be truly awesome if we did. I know most aren't on the Rob Ryan train but no team he has ever been DC for has had a winning record in 9 years. His units usually rank in the 20s. Rex is brilliant, the Jets have had a Top 10 pass D for years with no pass rush talent at all. He can scheme a free rusher with only 4 or 5 coming better than anyone. Rob has good hair, not much more.
I feel Lovie will get one of these openings at HC. Much like Andy, he's had success in the regular season and someone else will give him a shot.
I agree, he's a solid coach and his players play hard for him. He'd make a great duo with a good offensive mind/playcaller for the offense as his OC.
Still seems like a quick fix. Not someone who's going to miraculously become a GREAT coach and lead us to superbowls. C'mon, we all know most philly fans won't ever be happy with just pretty good and we'd hear message boards full of even more hate if we get lovie and he leads us to a few playoffs in a row without a superbowl. This team unfortunately needs to go boom or bust, because we all know if we don't win it all, it's considered a bust to most of the people who cheer for them. Gotta swing for a home run, not the safe bet, band-aid that gruden, cower, or lovie might give us. I say go young and fresh and go all in on a new guy with a new energy, but give him some experienced co ordinators if possible.
Speaking as a Bears fan...You guys could certainly do much worse than Lovie. I was disappointed to see him fired.
Would you be OK with a Lovie (HC) and Norv (OC) combo?
Hmmmmmmmmm, I'm pretty tired of the Norv show. If I thought our squad was a veteran coach away from really competing, I might justify it, but I think we're looking at a possible blow up and rebuild mode so I would rather a younger mind who MAY turn out great.
I agree. I don't think we can expect a quick fix and return to greatness. The Eagles have 3 teams to climb over in their own division and one of them appears to have a premier QB for the next several years. The talent cupboard is certainly bare. I'm looking for someone to come in and reverse the downward trend they've been in for years and show promise and improvement. If it takes a few years, I'm fine with it as long as the trend is upward.I've been thinking a lot about what our expectations should be for this team and, I think we have to assume we're looking at two or three lean years.A lot of people think our offensive line magically gets fixed by Jason Peters return, but let's remember that a 320 pound lineman tearing his Achilles is a lot different than a 225 pound receiver. Peters could be 400+ pounds at this point, and his rehab and return to 100% in terms of fitness and conditioning have to be in serious question. While I certainly hope he regains his former level, we have to presume he never does. That leaves us with an offensive line full of questions.Meanwhile two of the other premier positions -- QB and CB -- are also major question marks. I'm not a Foles believer. To be clear, I think he could start for a season or two if need be, but I don't see him as ever becoming a plus QB that elevates the team into a serious offensive power. At CB we have two corners that ranked worse than many team's dime defenders according to PFF metrics. Nnamdi HAS to go, and DRC is hardly a playoff caliber CB1.
We'll see how long Eli has left.'Amused to Death said:I agree. I don't think we can expect a quick fix and return to greatness. The Eagles have 3 teams to climb over in their own division and one of them appears to have a premier QB for the next several years. The talent cupboard is certainly bare. I'm looking for someone to come in and reverse the downward trend they've been in for years and show promise and improvement. If it takes a few years, I'm fine with it as long as the trend is upward.'Jason Wood said:I've been thinking a lot about what our expectations should be for this team and, I think we have to assume we're looking at two or three lean years.
A lot of people think our offensive line magically gets fixed by Jason Peters return, but let's remember that a 320 pound lineman tearing his Achilles is a lot different than a 225 pound receiver. Peters could be 400+ pounds at this point, and his rehab and return to 100% in terms of fitness and conditioning have to be in serious question. While I certainly hope he regains his former level, we have to presume he never does. That leaves us with an offensive line full of questions.
Meanwhile two of the other premier positions -- QB and CB -- are also major question marks. I'm not a Foles believer. To be clear, I think he could start for a season or two if need be, but I don't see him as ever becoming a plus QB that elevates the team into a serious offensive power. At CB we have two corners that ranked worse than many team's dime defenders according to PFF metrics. Nnamdi HAS to go, and DRC is hardly a playoff caliber CB1.
RGIII has Vick written all over him. Better QB but still not a premier QB. As far as CB's, many have thought that a lot of their failures have been b/c of the wide 9/safety play. I admit their play wasn't very good but it almost seemed like they stopped caring more than anything else. I think DRC provides the most upside but I would certainly keep at least one and possibly both and expect them to rebound. I also like the Hughes kid and have heard pretty good things. And Boykin while not an outside corner plays one of the most important positions in the new NFL.
Maybe he was there with JayJon Gruden was just sighted at the Diner by my house here in Manayunk (Philadelphia)...FYI..
hmmmm isnt there one at the movie complex on main st? or was it one of the main st placesedit: manayunk diner is the only diner i can think of since Bob's Diner is in roxboroughJon Gruden was just sighted at the Diner by my house here in Manayunk (Philadelphia)...FYI..
Word coming back that NFL Films is doing a Sabol Tribute this week at the Kimmel Center. Might be for that.Jon Gruden was just sighted at the Diner by my house here in Manayunk (Philadelphia)...FYI..
Who do u mean?
I'm. ND fan and I'm not sure how to take thisThe infatuation with the college guys is worrying me a bit. I don't mind them looking at Kelly and the mutual interest thing isn't as big a deal as ESPN makes it seem. If a college guy wants to come to the NFL then there would be obvious mutual interest if interviewed by the team.
Interesting thread. 9 months ago you all agreed that you had the close to the perfect draft and were killing the off season signings. Most were predicting between 8 to 10 wins. Now it's 2 to 3 lean years. Knock, knock...your team was better than Minny of 2011. You have more talent than Minny of 2012. You exclude QB for the equation and I take your roster over Wash heads up. We're not talking da raiders here so cheer up.'Jason Wood said:I've been thinking a lot about what our expectations should be for this team and, I think we have to assume we're looking at two or three lean years.A lot of people think our offensive line magically gets fixed by Jason Peters return, but let's remember that a 320 pound lineman tearing his Achilles is a lot different than a 225 pound receiver. Peters could be 400+ pounds at this point, and his rehab and return to 100% in terms of fitness and conditioning have to be in serious question. While I certainly hope he regains his former level, we have to presume he never does. That leaves us with an offensive line full of questions.Meanwhile two of the other premier positions -- QB and CB -- are also major question marks. I'm not a Foles believer. To be clear, I think he could start for a season or two if need be, but I don't see him as ever becoming a plus QB that elevates the team into a serious offensive power. At CB we have two corners that ranked worse than many team's dime defenders according to PFF metrics. Nnamdi HAS to go, and DRC is hardly a playoff caliber CB1.
Graham over Ware? Yes, Graham looked good in the games he got at the end, but this is silly. If Graham does pan out, though, it will be huge. Maybe a resurgence for Cole? (who?)And a ringing endorsement here:
Suprised not to see Kerrigan on the team. He looked good when I saw him.
Manayunk Diner. It's crap-Someone should have told him to go to Bob's.hmmmm isnt there one at the movie complex on main st? or was it one of the main st placesedit: manayunk diner is the only diner i can think of since Bob's Diner is in roxboroughJon Gruden was just sighted at the Diner by my house here in Manayunk (Philadelphia)...FYI..
Old Eagle Tavern, FTW.Manayunk Diner. It's crap-Someone should have told him to go to Bob's.hmmmm isnt there one at the movie complex on main st? or was it one of the main st placesedit: manayunk diner is the only diner i can think of since Bob's Diner is in roxboroughJon Gruden was just sighted at the Diner by my house here in Manayunk (Philadelphia)...FYI..
hah, that joint is 4 blocks from my house. For whatever reason whenever I walk my bulldog by he tries like hell to go inside.'Please See Mine said:Old Eagle Tavern, FTW.'unckeyherb said:Manayunk Diner. It's crap-Someone should have told him to go to Bob's.hmmmm isnt there one at the movie complex on main st? or was it one of the main st placesedit: manayunk diner is the only diner i can think of since Bob's Diner is in roxboroughJon Gruden was just sighted at the Diner by my house here in Manayunk (Philadelphia)...FYI..
Gargano also said late yesterday that the Eagles' brass was not even in town yesterday.Word coming back that NFL Films is doing a Sabol Tribute this week at the Kimmel Center. Might be for that.Jon Gruden was just sighted at the Diner by my house here in Manayunk (Philadelphia)...FYI..
There are always dogs in there whenever I go in, so that may have something to do with it . . . or he likes great beer.hah, that joint is 4 blocks from my house. For whatever reason whenever I walk my bulldog by he tries like hell to go inside.'Please See Mine said:Old Eagle Tavern, FTW.'unckeyherb said:Manayunk Diner. It's crap-Someone should have told him to go to Bob's.hmmmm isnt there one at the movie complex on main st? or was it one of the main st placesedit: manayunk diner is the only diner i can think of since Bob's Diner is in roxboroughJon Gruden was just sighted at the Diner by my house here in Manayunk (Philadelphia)...FYI..
Not sure why many want Lovie Smith. Lovie Smith is the defensive version of Andy Reid. Good coach, knows one side of the ball well, but is not the best in game manager. I'm just not sure the best coach for post Andy Reid is to bring in a coach with similar pros and cons.With that said I would still take a Lovie (HC)-- Norv (OC) combo.Fair points. But I want to learn with a new guy, learn about him and be excited about what an unkown might bring. I don't want what I seen in Chicago for 9 years, or in San Diego for 8 years, or in Jacksonville for 4 years. Not saying they're all terrible and won't succeed somehwere else, i just want something new that I haven't seen before.I think people hear the word retread and think failure butI think sometimes the HC wasn't ready, didnt have the right Qb or had a bad GM. In the 14 years under Reid there have been 7 SB's won by so called retreads so I dont like writing anyone off. Im not in love with the guys out there but I think Del Rio got a bad wrap because he had an awful GM and no Qb which kills every young HC. I also like Lovie I think he was cursed with a bad GM and he has been awful at picking an OC which is his fault but maybe Howie can help find an OC just dont keep Marty.Please just no retreads, someone new and fresh. Looking forward to a new regime and thread.
Lovie in town today for his first interview. The Kelly "interview" was only a meeting about interviewing him when he's back from vacation.Cowboys looking at Kiffin for DC.If I heard correctly on 97.5 a few minutes ago, thought thu said Lovie was in town for second interview, and are planning on meeting again with Brian Kelly. Sounds like those two are the front runners
Oh I'm all screwed up. I thought they had already interviewed Lovie earlier in the week or over the weekend. Thanks for clarifying both.Lovie in town today for his first interview. The Kelly "interview" was only a meeting about interviewing him when he's back from vacation.Cowboys looking at Kiffin for DC.If I heard correctly on 97.5 a few minutes ago, thought thu said Lovie was in town for second interview, and are planning on meeting again with Brian Kelly. Sounds like those two are the front runners
I hope you don't mean RG3 because with his injury his career is very much in question.I agree. I don't think we can expect a quick fix and return to greatness. The Eagles have 3 teams to climb over in their own division and one of them appears to have a premier QB for the next several years. The talent cupboard is certainly bare. I'm looking for someone to come in and reverse the downward trend they've been in for years and show promise and improvement. If it takes a few years, I'm fine with it as long as the trend is upward.I've been thinking a lot about what our expectations should be for this team and, I think we have to assume we're looking at two or three lean years.A lot of people think our offensive line magically gets fixed by Jason Peters return, but let's remember that a 320 pound lineman tearing his Achilles is a lot different than a 225 pound receiver. Peters could be 400+ pounds at this point, and his rehab and return to 100% in terms of fitness and conditioning have to be in serious question. While I certainly hope he regains his former level, we have to presume he never does. That leaves us with an offensive line full of questions.Meanwhile two of the other premier positions -- QB and CB -- are also major question marks. I'm not a Foles believer. To be clear, I think he could start for a season or two if need be, but I don't see him as ever becoming a plus QB that elevates the team into a serious offensive power. At CB we have two corners that ranked worse than many team's dime defenders according to PFF metrics. Nnamdi HAS to go, and DRC is hardly a playoff caliber CB1.
Let me know if you find anymore info. Quick search online gave me nothing.Word coming back that NFL Films is doing a Sabol Tribute this week at the Kimmel Center. Might be for that.Jon Gruden was just sighted at the Diner by my house here in Manayunk (Philadelphia)...FYI..
Flyers Hockey Jan 19.
screw the nhl they did this #### one too many times. I dont get Kelly from ND either, where did he come from?
I'll come back to the NHL but I'm going to be very bitter about it. But I digress. Don't understand Kelly at all. I liked Chip b/c he brought a revolutionary offense with success behind him. This not so much with Brian. I was willing to gamble on Chip's system without any NFL background but not Brian. I'll be upset if he gets the nod. I can at least understand Lovie. Wouldn't love the hire but most of the best hires I don't seem to love. But assuming he can bring Marinelli or someone who along with him can spearhead the defense and hopefully he learned from his failures from an offensive standpoint and get the right guy.
Brian Kelly has had good success on every team he has coached. He seems to be a good all around coach as he is not an devoted to just one side of the ball. Both his offense and defense improved every year. I like him more than chip Kelly. Not trying to say he's a perfect hire, but I would rather have him than most of these others being looked at. I still really like bradley from sea and would take him over kelly
