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If he does not see CJ as a #1 RB, then his opinion is not only useless, he is unaware of value as well.
Tons of people are bailing on Chris Johnson, just because you disagree doesn't make their opinion useless. I don't even dislike the trade for you, I was just explaining that if he's not a "Johnson guy", then that clearly means he doesn't think he has RB1 value. That's obviously where his opinion on the trade comes from.
Well, its easy for you to think one thing and me another, because im not a cobb guy, does not mean he sucks.
I'm not really sure ADP/CJ is a comparison I'd be looking to make at this point in their careers. I think that's the foolish way to go. But to each his own.
A guy a few years removed from a 2000 yards season is not elite? He may of had a bad year last year, but he is a stud in my eyes. others see him as well better then wilson. fbg rankings and adp do as well, and its not close.
Ummm, so comparing a 2000 yard rusher to a 2000 yard rusher is out of line and foolsih? tell me exactly, how many people have rushed for 2000 yards? hmmm
Dude, people are just giving their opinions. You are coming across as offended and seem to be on the attack if these people do not agree with your assessment. Simply say "I think CJ is still elite" and move on. Differences of opinion are okay.
Then why debate? because i come across with a tone you dont like? guess what world is filled with people who talk football differently, put me on ignore, move on.
You obviously love CJ so who cares what anyone else thinks. The substance for your argument is pretty weak but you are entitled to your opinion. From my view point, I see no reason why CJs stats are sure to improve from last year, especially when Shonn Green was brought in at such a lofty contract.
Nothing to add here... Just wanted to see another terribly long quote on the fbg mobile app reduced back down to O
I tried conversing with you in a friendly manner, and even ignored your blatant attempt to pollute this thread with remarks about what you see as a personal vendetta against you. But I think it's obvious why it always seems like I (and others) are "debating" you or commenting on your poor tone--because you sound like you perpetually have a stick up your ###. I genuinely don't understand why you find it so difficult to not act like a ####. I tried it. So have others. You make it impossible.
Is this you ignoring me again? lol please dude, you dont like my tone, oh well. Your opinion is no better then mine.talk about polluting u went out of your way to respond, take your self righteous stuff elsewhere.
he's not even debating, he's just telling it how it is. you continually come across as offended in here after you post your trades then somone doesn't like it. just because they don't like it doesn't mean it's wrong, or bad, they just don't like it. you seem to be the only one debating here. the value of players and trades are extremely subjective, yet you continually defend your stance like you're always the clear winner. you need to learn to move on... no reason why we should have to ignore you. just post your trades and leave it at that... there's no reason to defend yourself.
to view the trades people are making. most people are able to discuss their thoughts on the trade in an intelligent and friendly manner, yet you continually seem to get offended and start throwing out insults.
I'll take Givens and the pick.
Even trade here. Depends on where the first would end up. Still think I'd prefer the J-Stew side unless the 1st is a lock top three.
Another even deal. I'm higher on Hilton than most but Lynch is a proven stud.
In a deep draft I'll take the 3rd now rather than a 3rd later.
Sold very low on Austin IMO. Think I'd rather have that side even with his chronic soft tissue injuries.
Not a Spiller subscriber but I'd much rather have that side.
Seems really cheap for Lynch unless that 2014 pick is likely to be really high. Brazill and Cameron are worth less than 3.01 in my opinion. So just Hilton and a future 1 (in a 16 teamer, so could be a really late pick) for a top RB like Lynch.Other trades all look pretty even.
CJ is currently ranked as RB17 on DynastyLeagueFootball, a site I respect.If we ignore that though since rankings are so personal he's currently got an ADP of RB13 in current dynasty mock drafts.
Again, so a 2000 yard rusher cant be put in the same sentence as a 2000 yard rusher? How many of them are there?
Again i'm the guy getting crapped on without insulting anyone because my tone is harsh, yet you take a lighter tone and call names, yet its ok?
Calling someone's opinion "useless" is actually fairly insulting, and what started this mess (this time).
You come here to post this instead fo football related material? Does that make you any better then me?
...because being a Vick owner makes it better. I kid, but that is a pretty low sell on Mathews. That is bailing like your house of fire around you.
That particular post obviously didn't have football related material. I think that most of my posts in this thread are fairly informative and helpful.
No, not that specifically.
I've got a good grasp on the chain of events, but am not insulted by your suggestion that I need to pay attention.
So we can expect you to go back and edit your previous post to include the underlined addition?
I didn't realise we'd moved to talking about redraft? As this is a dynasty thread I was using dynasty ADP.Anyone else's ADP isn't important as I'm challenging you on your assertion that anyone not ranking CJ as a RB1 was clueless.
No, I'm saying was ADP a drafted as a #1 RB last year? I have ADPs that say no including mine.
Here is how people think differently. GIve me Rivers for a crap QB and some okay pick in this draft. I will take the guy with chance to be top 10 QB again pretty easy.
Fair enough but part of aquiring Rivers was because I moved Wilson for CJ
This is mostly gibberish now. Where ADP was drafted has nothing to do with Chris Johnson.
See again where we differ, I have no faith in that website. Sorry, that means nothing to me, I never look to that site for advice for reasons such as this.
Young, top 8 or so QBs in dynasty leagues are worth more than anyone in my eyes, including Trent/Calvin. Certainly more than Foster.
In a superflex league I think I'd rather have Kaep than Foster, but it's close. Getting Tate evens it out a bit. I wouldn't fault either side for this .... to me it really depends on number of starters. The fewer the starters, the more important the best players for each position (meaning Foster would be better if this was like 1/1/1/1 and 1 superflex. If starting a slew of positions in PPR (like 1/2/3/1 and a superflex) then I would probably lean Kaep).
You can check back as I can't be sure but I don't remember making any comment about your trade (I may be wrong).
I haven't given it a ton of though, but my initial opinion is that if you are only required to start 1 RB, it would make Foster less valuable in comparison to stud QBs (that you could start 2). Kinda similar to how QBs in start-1 leagues are devalued since you have more options.
Would that matter? If you aren't starting 2QBs in a superflex, you aren't winning a thing.
Worded that horribly, I meant what he was moving from and who Kaep would replace in his lineup.
That's correct. Foster's value within his own position would go up, but not outside of it. He would be worth much less compared to QBs.
Ah OK, gotcha. On this question, my answer would be that "it likely wouldn't matter to me". Perhaps if he was sitting on two stud QBs already, but I'm not sure I still wouldn't do it if that were the case. Even if he was replacing a guy like Roethlisberger in his lineup, these leagues you are still at a great advantage with 3QBs, and it would open up one of his lesser QBs to trade (which should still bring a good return, even for guys like Rivers, Schaub, etc).
