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They could use some MI help. Preferably a younger, cost controlled guy. They should probably contact the Cubs.
No way could a team land Addison Russell for a guy like Samardzjia.Addison Russell?
I think that Beane is up to something.
Yes. Yes he does. He's a ####### bandaid. But the rest of it was concerning. How long is Donaldson under contract for?
He's under team control through 2018.
Four more years.
Guys who are worth 6-7 WAR and have four more years of team control left don't just fall off trees. And yeah, Barreto's extremely far off.
Yep. If they're rebuilding, why take Lawrie? He's under control one year less than Donaldson. If they're not rebuilding, why trade Donaldson? Don't care how great Barreto may be years down the road - it hurts their chances of winning next year.
Jonah Keri just tweeted in his next "trade value column" he has Donaldson as 22nd most valuable in MLB. He's better than Lawrie's ceiling and Lawrie will actually be a free agent before Donaldson.
I'm not going to explain the reasons behind this trade, because I doubt anyone could, but Donaldson is a third baseman, Lawrie plays second. Lesser player, sure. Lesser version isn't accurate.
Lawrie has been a third basemen for all but a handful of innings in his major league career.
Fair enough. I'm pretty sure Oakland will use him as their second baseman, but with this GM I have no idea.
Lawrie is an awesome defensive 3B (though I think Donaldson is too). Lawrie's absolute upside is likely a bit south of what Donaldson has done the past two seasons. I don't think the arms the A's get will be difference makers, it sounds like they love Barreto.
Firstly, let's at least note for the record that Beane has utterly devastated trade partners when he makes an established player for prospects move. Do people realize how fast Mark Mulder fell apart after he was traded to STL? He was worth 0.5 WAR over 53 starts over the next four years. Haren was worth 12.5 in three years with the A's, and then traded for a package that included Carlos Gonzalez (THAT trade was indefensible, where the A's trade for an established player. Gonzalez was simply rushed too quickly), Brett Anderson, who has been killed by injuries, and Chris Carter, who would probably be a pretty great DH if he were used properly (and not flipped for a mediocre SS in Lowrie, but again, I'm only defending the established player for prospects deals here). Rich Harden also broke down pretty quickly after the A's dealt him to Chicago, which was the trade that netted Harden (as well as a couple of guys who went nowhere).
because we have a rooting interest or a draw to the game because we love it. But even the people who I think know baseball best lose the big picture of trades and roster maneuvers, myself included. Beane has shown in the past he knows better than most of the other guys, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here also.
If you don't rely on any sight at all, you run into the wall a lot.MAC_32 said:
MAC_32 said:
id rather run into the wall a few times than be too chicken #### to be wrong in the first place.
comment directed at doc, I lean towards liking this trade for Oakland. Don't trust Lawrie, at all, but I think we have seen the best we are going to from Donaldson. Prospects push this to Oakland imhoMAC_32 said:
I'd be a bit troubled if the A's didn't at least knock on some other doors before they pulled the trigger on this. I trust Beane's read, but did they at least check in on Arenado? Machado, which would've been extra-hilarious?
Probably the most shocking part of the deal, who would have ever thought Oakland would pencil in Lawrie to play the only position he has really ever played in the majors. That Billy Beane is one giant enigma.Hilts said:
Donaldson has been one of the best players in the AL the past couple of seasons. Feels like the As gave up more to get Samardjia than they got for Donaldson.
looks like a two team race to me
maybe baltimore but the yanks are hot garbage
Their MI is atrocious. Plus they're old pretty much everywhere. Unless they suddenly go on a spending spree, I see a team with a lot of holes.
