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2014 NFL Free Agents (2 Viewers)

voiceofunreason said:
cstu said:
zamboni said:
I don't know why any team would want Pettigrew. He can't block, catch or run. Lions, Raiders and Jets make sense the way they are all run.
I agree with most of what you said, but the things in have read about Pettigrew he is actually a very good blocker.
I have always heard the same regarding his blocking, but only hearsay.
Pass blocking is his strength.
I've heard a lot of questions about his blocking lately but admittedly I don't spend a lot of time watching TEs block. He's definitely not much of a receiving threat though. I thought the Lions would move on to someone with a little more upside.
seriously?

He's a classic TE. Solid blocker, nice hands for a TE.

If you want to compare him to these guys that would be WRs in other eras or somesuch, yeah he won't measure up.

284 catches in 5 years, many games with 6 catches or more.

He was the top TE in the draft when he entered the league.

 
‏@Shields3L:

Coming Soon: "Blind Sided- The Jake Locker Story" starring Michael Oher

This one made me chuckle a wee bit.

I can't believe they are replacing Fitzpatrick with Whitehurst. I mean the probabilty that Whitehurst will be forced into action while Locker is injured seems high.

 
@BenVolin: Switching NFC North teams RT @JosinaAnderson: Source: Julius Peppers has agreed to terms with the Green Bay Packers on a 3-year deal.

 
‏@Shields3L:

Coming Soon: "Blind Sided- The Jake Locker Story" starring Michael Oher

This one made me chuckle a wee bit.

I can't believe they are replacing Fitzpatrick with Whitehurst. I mean the probabilty that Whitehurst will be forced into action while Locker is injured seems high.
Fitz was staying 6-8 weeks ago.

Whisenhunt and staff must have seen somethings they didn't like and/or the personal chats didn't go as expected. This changed.

He's got a fine cap # for a QB (2.5 mil IIRC) so this surely wasn't a money thing.

Most Titans fans would tell ya that Rusty (3rd string) stinks so there was a need for another QB and I figured Whitehurst was replacing Rusty and bringing in a vet familiar with the offense. I'm a bit surprised Fitz was released.

 
Who is Isaiah Williams WR? Anyone?

From what I can tell, he was on Whisenhunt's PS in Arizona and signed to Titans around the same time as Whisenhunt did. Doesn't even look like he's played in NFL, why the love in bringing him over?

 
voiceofunreason said:
cstu said:
zamboni said:
I don't know why any team would want Pettigrew. He can't block, catch or run. Lions, Raiders and Jets make sense the way they are all run.
I agree with most of what you said, but the things in have read about Pettigrew he is actually a very good blocker.
I have always heard the same regarding his blocking, but only hearsay.
Pass blocking is his strength.
I've heard a lot of questions about his blocking lately but admittedly I don't spend a lot of time watching TEs block. He's definitely not much of a receiving threat though. I thought the Lions would move on to someone with a little more upside.
seriously?

He's a classic TE. Solid blocker, nice hands for a TE.

If you want to compare him to these guys that would be WRs in other eras or somesuch, yeah he won't measure up.

284 catches in 5 years, many games with 6 catches or more.

He was the top TE in the draft when he entered the league.
He's a stiff who runs (trots) 5 yards down the field, catches the ball (or drops it about half the time) and then falls down. He only has any numbers because there's nobody after Calvin. I don't know how anybody can defend Pettigrew.

And whether you take them as gospel or not, PFF had him below average as a blocker.

This is old but shows three years of his play and also how many targets he's taken to produce his below average numbers. If you watched any games you should know all of this already but here you go.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/03/three-year-drop-rate-tight-ends/

In my book he stinks and has no worth.

 
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voiceofunreason said:
cstu said:
zamboni said:
I don't know why any team would want Pettigrew. He can't block, catch or run. Lions, Raiders and Jets make sense the way they are all run.
I agree with most of what you said, but the things in have read about Pettigrew he is actually a very good blocker.
I have always heard the same regarding his blocking, but only hearsay.
Pass blocking is his strength.
I've heard a lot of questions about his blocking lately but admittedly I don't spend a lot of time watching TEs block. He's definitely not much of a receiving threat though. I thought the Lions would move on to someone with a little more upside.
seriously?

He's a classic TE. Solid blocker, nice hands for a TE.

If you want to compare him to these guys that would be WRs in other eras or somesuch, yeah he won't measure up.

284 catches in 5 years, many games with 6 catches or more.

He was the top TE in the draft when he entered the league.
He's a stiff who runs (trots) 5 yards down the field, catches the ball (or drops it about half the time) and then falls down. He only has any numbers because there's nobody after Calvin. I don't know how anybody can defend Pettigrew.

And whether you take them as gospel or not, PFF had him below average as a blocker.

In my book he stinks and has no worth.
Yeah If Im the Lions, I would of given Pettigrews cash to Captain Munnerlyn, started Fauria, and drafted a TE in round3.

 
Yeah If Im the Lions, I would of given Pettigrews cash to Captain Munnerlyn, started Fauria, and drafted a TE in round3.
It not really a great class of TE beyond the top 3. I am not buying the hype on Troy Niklas. Colt Lyerla is good but a little undersized and comes with baggage. Crockett Gilmore is a nice sleeper. The other prospects look like they should get drafted in rounds 5-7.
 
Yeah If Im the Lions, I would of given Pettigrews cash to Captain Munnerlyn, started Fauria, and drafted a TE in round3.
It not really a great class of TE beyond the top 3. I am not buying the hype on Troy Niklas. Colt Lyerla is good but a little undersized and comes with baggage. Crockett Gilmore is a nice sleeper. The other prospects look like they should get drafted in rounds 5-7.
What is wrong with Niklas. Does he not have a floor of Brandon Pettigrew? Upside is much higher than this and chance to be pretty good. The kid has some skills.

 
Yeah If Im the Lions, I would of given Pettigrews cash to Captain Munnerlyn, started Fauria, and drafted a TE in round3.
It not really a great class of TE beyond the top 3. I am not buying the hype on Troy Niklas. Colt Lyerla is good but a little undersized and comes with baggage. Crockett Gilmore is a nice sleeper. The other prospects look like they should get drafted in rounds 5-7.
What is wrong with Niklas. Does he not have a floor of Brandon Pettigrew? Upside is much higher than this and chance to be pretty good. The kid has some skills.
I have seen him get mocked to the late 1st and early 2nd. He is not fast and has questionable hands. If anything he is alot like Pettigrew entering the league. People expect him to develop but what if he doesn't.

 
Yeah If Im the Lions, I would of given Pettigrews cash to Captain Munnerlyn, started Fauria, and drafted a TE in round3.
It not really a great class of TE beyond the top 3. I am not buying the hype on Troy Niklas. Colt Lyerla is good but a little undersized and comes with baggage. Crockett Gilmore is a nice sleeper. The other prospects look like they should get drafted in rounds 5-7.
What is wrong with Niklas. Does he not have a floor of Brandon Pettigrew? Upside is much higher than this and chance to be pretty good. The kid has some skills.
I have seen him get mocked to the late 1st and early 2nd. He is not fast and has questionable hands. If anything he is alot like Pettigrew entering the league. People expect him to develop but what if he doesn't.
that can go with any player in the end. This is not an exact science and you can only do your best. That is why rookie draft picks are a 50% commodity for round 1. I just did an example for one of the guys in my league who thought he had drafted well. He was 2-9 in round 1(only hits Fitz and Calvin as top 2 picks). We do draft round 1 before NFL draft He was 0-5 in round 2 and 1-7 in round 3. My hit rate was 40% overall and than is how do you grade a Micheal Clayton(my only WR pick since 2000 in round 1) Vincent Jackson and Anquan Boldin at end of round 2 save me.

 
Yeah If Im the Lions, I would of given Pettigrews cash to Captain Munnerlyn, started Fauria, and drafted a TE in round3.
It not really a great class of TE beyond the top 3. I am not buying the hype on Troy Niklas. Colt Lyerla is good but a little undersized and comes with baggage. Crockett Gilmore is a nice sleeper. The other prospects look like they should get drafted in rounds 5-7.
What is wrong with Niklas. Does he not have a floor of Brandon Pettigrew? Upside is much higher than this and chance to be pretty good. The kid has some skills.
I have seen him get mocked to the late 1st and early 2nd. He is not fast and has questionable hands. If anything he is alot like Pettigrew entering the league. People expect him to develop but what if he doesn't.
that can go with any player in the end. This is not an exact science and you can only do your best. That is why rookie draft picks are a 50% commodity for round 1. I just did an example for one of the guys in my league who thought he had drafted well. He was 2-9 in round 1(only hits Fitz and Calvin as top 2 picks). We do draft round 1 before NFL draft He was 0-5 in round 2 and 1-7 in round 3. My hit rate was 40% overall and than is how do you grade a Micheal Clayton(my only WR pick since 2000 in round 1) Vincent Jackson and Anquan Boldin at end of round 2 save me.
I was referring to his NFL draft status. NationalFootballPost had him going in the 1st round in one of their mock.

 
I should have known better. Saints can't afford him since he is unwilling to take a pay cut.

 
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I should have known better. Saints can't afford him since he is unwilling to take a pay cut.
He has said recently he is willing to take a cut to make a trade easier.

Right now, it makes zero sense for the Titans to trade him unless they get decent compensation.

They gain more of a cap advantage by cutting him than trading him was the last thing I had heard.

 
Browns sure seemed to get Tate on the cheap when you look at the money given to Brown and Gerhart. I would have thought that Tate would be a hotter commodity. Another sign of the depressed RB market.

 
Question: has any free agent WR actually paid a visit to the Panthers yet?

The report was that CAR made an offer to Nicks, 4.5 mill, but he didn't even visit?

Decker, gone. Tate, gone. Nicks, gone. Edelman, gone.

After Jones, what are the Panthers really looking at? Holmes?

Better remaining WRs after Jones:

Sanders

Britt

Baldwin [restricted FA, tendered, 2nd rd pick]

Simpson

Austin

Holmes

DHB

Burleson

Avant

Rice

Cotchery

Ford

[Edited to keep a working list.]

 
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Question: has any free agent WR actually paid a visit to the Panthers yet?

The report was that CAR made an offer to Nicks, 4.5 mill, but he didn't even visit?

Decker, gone. Nicks, gone. Edelman, gone.

After Jones, what are the Panthers really looking at? Holmes?

Better remaining WRs after Jones:

Sanders

Baldwin

Simpson

Austin

Holmes

DHB

Burleson

Avant

Rice
They HAVE to draft 2, early.

I know its early but they lead my list of teams I'm looking to not make the playoffs next year. Losing Gross, Smith, Munnerlyn and Ginn is going to hurt pretty bad IMO

 
Question: has any free agent WR actually paid a visit to the Panthers yet?

The report was that CAR made an offer to Nicks, 4.5 mill, but he didn't even visit?

Decker, gone. Tate, gone. Nicks, gone. Edelman, gone.

After Jones, what are the Panthers really looking at? Holmes?

Better remaining WRs after Jones:

Sanders

Britt

Baldwin

Simpson

Austin

Holmes

DHB

Burleson

Avant

Rice
I'm interested in one of the guys on their roster: McNutt. Good size, decent speed. A little familiarity in their ranks. Could give him a leg up on the rooks.

 
Adam Schefter

@AdamSchefter

Neither team nor player's agent will confirm, but Broncos are expected to sign former Steelers WR Emmauel Sanders, per league sources.
 
@jerrythornton
The Pats are very close to signing WR Brandon LaFell. Let's just say I know a guy who knows a guy. But book it

 
Browns sure seemed to get Tate on the cheap when you look at the money given to Brown and Gerhart. I would have thought that Tate would be a hotter commodity. Another sign of the depressed RB market.
Made me wonder if they draft a RB in the third or so to be in a RBBC. They aren't exactly pinning their future to him. They could always extend him in the future, but I was also expecting more than two years and more money. The good thing for CLE, minimal cost if he continues to get injured. Other teams may not have beat his door down if there is concern he is a system RB that benefited from the HOU scheme. Though OC Shanahan would have some overlap, so signing him makes more sense for them.

Worked out well for CLE, they get a first for a RB they don't want, replace him without using a draft pick, and can now maybe flip the IND 1.26 for a QB of the future like Carr?

 
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Adam Schefter‏@AdamSchefter58s

And now Patriots have reached agreement on a three-year deal with former Panthers WR Brandon LaFell, per source

 
My lord. Elway is going to have a fit if Manning gets hurt this year. They are all in this year.
He's one hit away from having that neck force him into retirement. Instead of more WRs, they should focus on his line…I have no idea if there is room for improvement or not.

 
Seattle, San Francisco, New England and Denver. What other teams are there that have a legit shot based off talent? A few maybe, but not like those four teams.

 
identikit said:
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

Colts and WR Hakeem Nicks reached agreement on a one-year deal, per source.
wasn't a "long term deal" the most important thing to him?
1 year in Indy might land him a bigger deal. Upside is huge.
His upside was 4 years ago, before his injuries and loss of speed. There is a reason NO NFL team gave him a multi-year deal.
According to this CAR offered him $4.5 mill "per season." That sounds like a multi=year.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/report-panthers-offer-giants-free-agent-nicks-article-1.1720292

 

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