I just don't see it with Bridgewater. I don't profess to know more than anyone else, I've seen a few of his games and read all the same articles as everyone else, but in my opinion he doesn't seem to be a superior talent. His arm strength doesn't look special to me and with his slight frame he looks like a high school kid playing QB. I'm glad they didn't make a play for him.
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massraider
Footballguy
With the O-linemen, D-Linemen, and RBs still kicking around, I personally would prefer to see a WR in the 3rd. Whether we go QB or not.
Hoping for Carr and then a Latimer, Moncrief, or even Martavius Bryant in the 3rd.
Hoping for Carr and then a Latimer, Moncrief, or even Martavius Bryant in the 3rd.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I'm hoping for Carr and then his prime target Adams in the third. Or one of the prime RB's maybe, Hyde or Mason. This draft is so deep, and judging by some questionable picks already made in the first round, I bet there's somebody nobody expected to be at pick 67. Let the draft fall to you Reggie. If Carr is gone, or the prime target's not there, trade down.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
i don't want carr. cousins for a third would intrigue me, but not mallet. TB is too small, he looks little and i'm glad we didn't move up for him.
for the next pick, i'd like to see a trade down or best big ugly available. i wish we had some 4th and 5th rounders.
i am resigned to getting carr.
for the next pick, i'd like to see a trade down or best big ugly available. i wish we had some 4th and 5th rounders.
i am resigned to getting carr.
Chaka
Footballguy
Ed Wood
Footballguy
I'm continually befuddled by some of the things that come out of Reggie's mouth. The latest from here:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2014/05/08/with-mack-available-raiders-keep-pick/
Reggie McKenzie said he fielded some phone calls Thursday night from teams interested in trading for the Raiders’ first pick at No. 5 in the NFL draft.
Then Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack became available.
“Once Khalil fell to us, we had a couple of calls,’’ McKenzie said. “At that point, I wasn’t taking ‘em.’’
What? You're not taking calls? How is this even possible? Part of your job is taking calls--ALL calls.
I was all for this guy when he first came on board. Had Madden's backing and someone (I forget who) said, "Reggie knows who can play and who can't" so what wasn't to like?
Davis, as I recall, was locked in on him from Day 1--and even before. Now I'm thinking he should have seriously kicked the tires on a few more candidates instead of just paying lipservice and having a few obligatory interviews with others.
Well, maybe he kills it the rest of the draft. He needs to since his job is probably riding on it. He's done the easy part--the deconstructing. I'm not sure he knows how to reconstruct...
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2014/05/08/with-mack-available-raiders-keep-pick/
Reggie McKenzie said he fielded some phone calls Thursday night from teams interested in trading for the Raiders’ first pick at No. 5 in the NFL draft.
Then Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack became available.
“Once Khalil fell to us, we had a couple of calls,’’ McKenzie said. “At that point, I wasn’t taking ‘em.’’
What? You're not taking calls? How is this even possible? Part of your job is taking calls--ALL calls.
I was all for this guy when he first came on board. Had Madden's backing and someone (I forget who) said, "Reggie knows who can play and who can't" so what wasn't to like?
Davis, as I recall, was locked in on him from Day 1--and even before. Now I'm thinking he should have seriously kicked the tires on a few more candidates instead of just paying lipservice and having a few obligatory interviews with others.
Well, maybe he kills it the rest of the draft. He needs to since his job is probably riding on it. He's done the easy part--the deconstructing. I'm not sure he knows how to reconstruct...
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Not Allowed In Mexico
Is this serious?I'm continually befuddled by some of the things that come out of Reggie's mouth. The latest from here:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2014/05/08/with-mack-available-raiders-keep-pick/
Reggie McKenzie said he fielded some phone calls Thursday night from teams interested in trading for the Raiders first pick at No. 5 in the NFL draft.
Then Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack became available.
Once Khalil fell to us, we had a couple of calls, McKenzie said. At that point, I wasnt taking em.
What? You're not taking calls? How is this even possible? Part of your job is taking calls--ALL calls.
I was all for this guy when he first came on board. Had Madden's backing and someone (I forget who) said, "Reggie knows who can play and who can't" so what wasn't to like?
Davis, as I recall, was locked in on him from Day 1--and even before. Now I'm thinking he should have seriously kicked the tires on a few more candidates instead of just paying lipservice and having a few obligatory interviews with others.
Well, maybe he kills it the rest of the draft. He needs to since his job is probably riding on it. He's done the easy part--the deconstructing. I'm not sure he knows how to reconstruct...
massraider
Footballguy
Mack presser on Raider.com (and hopefully ESPN) in ten min.
RaiderBones
Footballguy
RaiderBones
Footballguy
Seriously? Mack is one of, if not the top player in this draft. You don't pass on great players to get good players. Reggie did the right thing not taking calls when Mack became available for them to draft.I'm continually befuddled by some of the things that come out of Reggie's mouth. The latest from here:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2014/05/08/with-mack-available-raiders-keep-pick/
Reggie McKenzie said he fielded some phone calls Thursday night from teams interested in trading for the Raiders’ first pick at No. 5 in the NFL draft.
Then Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack became available.
“Once Khalil fell to us, we had a couple of calls,’’ McKenzie said. “At that point, I wasn’t taking ‘em.’’
What? You're not taking calls? How is this even possible? Part of your job is taking calls--ALL calls.
I was all for this guy when he first came on board. Had Madden's backing and someone (I forget who) said, "Reggie knows who can play and who can't" so what wasn't to like?
Davis, as I recall, was locked in on him from Day 1--and even before. Now I'm thinking he should have seriously kicked the tires on a few more candidates instead of just paying lipservice and having a few obligatory interviews with others.
Well, maybe he kills it the rest of the draft. He needs to since his job is probably riding on it. He's done the easy part--the deconstructing. I'm not sure he knows how to reconstruct...
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Ed Wood
Footballguy
You ALWAYS listen. What, they don't get to take Mack if they listen? All they have to do is say "no." Sheesh.Seriously? Mack is one of, if not the top player in this draft. You don't pass on great players to get good players. Reggie did the right thing not taking calls when Mack became available for them to draft.I'm continually befuddled by some of the things that come out of Reggie's mouth. The latest from here:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2014/05/08/with-mack-available-raiders-keep-pick/
Reggie McKenzie said he fielded some phone calls Thursday night from teams interested in trading for the Raiders’ first pick at No. 5 in the NFL draft.
Then Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack became available.
“Once Khalil fell to us, we had a couple of calls,’’ McKenzie said. “At that point, I wasn’t taking ‘em.’’
What? You're not taking calls? How is this even possible? Part of your job is taking calls--ALL calls.
I was all for this guy when he first came on board. Had Madden's backing and someone (I forget who) said, "Reggie knows who can play and who can't" so what wasn't to like?
Davis, as I recall, was locked in on him from Day 1--and even before. Now I'm thinking he should have seriously kicked the tires on a few more candidates instead of just paying lipservice and having a few obligatory interviews with others.
Well, maybe he kills it the rest of the draft. He needs to since his job is probably riding on it. He's done the easy part--the deconstructing. I'm not sure he knows how to reconstruct...
massraider
Footballguy
Semantics. Teams have all thee conversations before the pick, they know what people are offering. A guy they never thought would be there was there.You ALWAYS listen. What, they don't get to take Mack if they listen? All they have to do is say "no." Sheesh.Seriously? Mack is one of, if not the top player in this draft. You don't pass on great players to get good players. Reggie did the right thing not taking calls when Mack became available for them to draft.I'm continually befuddled by some of the things that come out of Reggie's mouth. The latest from here:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2014/05/08/with-mack-available-raiders-keep-pick/
Reggie McKenzie said he fielded some phone calls Thursday night from teams interested in trading for the Raiders’ first pick at No. 5 in the NFL draft.
Then Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack became available.
“Once Khalil fell to us, we had a couple of calls,’’ McKenzie said. “At that point, I wasn’t taking ‘em.’’
What? You're not taking calls? How is this even possible? Part of your job is taking calls--ALL calls.
I was all for this guy when he first came on board. Had Madden's backing and someone (I forget who) said, "Reggie knows who can play and who can't" so what wasn't to like?
Davis, as I recall, was locked in on him from Day 1--and even before. Now I'm thinking he should have seriously kicked the tires on a few more candidates instead of just paying lipservice and having a few obligatory interviews with others.
Well, maybe he kills it the rest of the draft. He needs to since his job is probably riding on it. He's done the easy part--the deconstructing. I'm not sure he knows how to reconstruct...
Ed Wood
Footballguy
Because a "guy they never thought would be there WAS there," THAT'S why you take ALL the calls.Semantics. Teams have all thee conversations before the pick, they know what people are offering. A guy they never thought would be there was there.You ALWAYS listen. What, they don't get to take Mack if they listen? All they have to do is say "no." Sheesh.Seriously? Mack is one of, if not the top player in this draft. You don't pass on great players to get good players. Reggie did the right thing not taking calls when Mack became available for them to draft.I'm continually befuddled by some of the things that come out of Reggie's mouth. The latest from here:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2014/05/08/with-mack-available-raiders-keep-pick/
Reggie McKenzie said he fielded some phone calls Thursday night from teams interested in trading for the Raiders’ first pick at No. 5 in the NFL draft.
Then Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack became available.
“Once Khalil fell to us, we had a couple of calls,’’ McKenzie said. “At that point, I wasn’t taking ‘em.’’
What? You're not taking calls? How is this even possible? Part of your job is taking calls--ALL calls.
I was all for this guy when he first came on board. Had Madden's backing and someone (I forget who) said, "Reggie knows who can play and who can't" so what wasn't to like?
Davis, as I recall, was locked in on him from Day 1--and even before. Now I'm thinking he should have seriously kicked the tires on a few more candidates instead of just paying lipservice and having a few obligatory interviews with others.
Well, maybe he kills it the rest of the draft. He needs to since his job is probably riding on it. He's done the easy part--the deconstructing. I'm not sure he knows how to reconstruct...
Chaka
Footballguy
Because a "guy they never thought would be there WAS there," THAT'S why you take ALL the calls.Semantics. Teams have all thee conversations before the pick, they know what people are offering. A guy they never thought would be there was there.You ALWAYS listen. What, they don't get to take Mack if they listen? All they have to do is say "no." Sheesh.Seriously? Mack is one of, if not the top player in this draft. You don't pass on great players to get good players. Reggie did the right thing not taking calls when Mack became available for them to draft.I'm continually befuddled by some of the things that come out of Reggie's mouth. The latest from here:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2014/05/08/with-mack-available-raiders-keep-pick/
Reggie McKenzie said he fielded some phone calls Thursday night from teams interested in trading for the Raiders’ first pick at No. 5 in the NFL draft.
Then Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack became available.
“Once Khalil fell to us, we had a couple of calls,’’ McKenzie said. “At that point, I wasn’t taking ‘em.’’
What? You're not taking calls? How is this even possible? Part of your job is taking calls--ALL calls.
I was all for this guy when he first came on board. Had Madden's backing and someone (I forget who) said, "Reggie knows who can play and who can't" so what wasn't to like?
Davis, as I recall, was locked in on him from Day 1--and even before. Now I'm thinking he should have seriously kicked the tires on a few more candidates instead of just paying lipservice and having a few obligatory interviews with others.
Well, maybe he kills it the rest of the draft. He needs to since his job is probably riding on it. He's done the easy part--the deconstructing. I'm not sure he knows how to reconstruct...
I am sure he answered the phone, they took something like six minutes to make the pick.I think the he meant that nothing blew him out of the water so he quickly dismissed the offers, but that doesn't make for as interesting of a sound bite.
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Mack n Carr....if they didnt pick another player id still say this was a great draft...solid defense and solid offence picks
massraider
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2014/01/08/futures-fresno-state-qb-derek-carr/
Waldman with a pretty serious writeup on our QBOTF.
Waldman with a pretty serious writeup on our QBOTF.
Silver & Black
Footballguy
I love it when a plan comes together. Whether you like Carr, hate him or like another QB better, it doesn't matter. I love what Oakland has done this offseason. They had a plan and are executing it to a tee. Whether you like it or not, Oakland had Carr as their #1 QB and they got him without having to move to get him. And they Got Mack to boot. It's nice to have a pulse again.
massraider
Footballguy
At some point, people thought Bortles, Carr, Teddy, and Manziel could all be top 10 picks. It's not even an opinion. it's a fact.
massraider
Footballguy
Winnah, winnah, chicken dinnah
I love it when a plan comes together. Whether you like Carr, hate him or like another QB better, it doesn't matter. I love what Oakland has done this offseason. They had a plan and are executing it to a tee. Whether you like it or not, Oakland had Carr as their #1 QB and they got him without having to move to get him. And they Got Mack to boot. It's nice to have a pulse again.
massraider
Footballguy
I am glad that Reggie and Allen were happy to grab a guy that won't necessarily help them win this year. Hope they go 8-8, and everyone keeps their job.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Shaping up to be an "A" draft for the beloved Silver and Black.
Grateful to Jacksonville for taking Bortles, leaving either Watkins or Mack (the two guys I coveted most) available. I can't give Reggie too much credit for this, the guys just fell into his lap. But good job anyway Reggie Mc.
Grateful to Jacksonville for taking Bortles, leaving either Watkins or Mack (the two guys I coveted most) available. I can't give Reggie too much credit for this, the guys just fell into his lap. But good job anyway Reggie Mc.
massraider
Footballguy
Strong policy. I never give credit to Baltimore when they don't move and take good players either.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
great pick here getting Derek Carr. He may prove to be the best QB of this draft. A plus grade
massraider
Footballguy
OK Raider insiders (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE):
3rd rounder?
3rd rounder?
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
i hate to speculate but im not sure this would have played out this way if a certain owner was still alive and making draft choices,this is said with the utmost respect for a great football mind.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Carr just threw it away and killed you on the next pass.
5000 yards. 50 TDs. Only 8 Ints and 11 sacks on 660 attempts.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
It's enjoyable to see all the haters gnash their teeth over these two picks. I especially love how they trot out former Raiders draft picks, as if what this regime does has anything to do with what Al did.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Not sure if the haters you mention here are Raider fans or Raider haters? It's amazing after all these years of failure we have a faction in the fan base that enjoys ripping the new regime at every possible turn. Sometimes they deserve criticism. But you can spot the fans with an anti-regime agenda. Can't imagine enjoying being a fan or calling yourself a fan and constantly ripping your own team.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Is there anyone worth moving up for at this point or we just stay put?
cstu
Footballguy
Not that high on him but he was the best remaining QB and great pick there.
Impressed by Raiders management, looks like things are turning around in Oakland.
massraider
Footballguy
Think there's guys worth it but not to us. With no 5th or 6th rounders, we will stay put, and maybe move down if someone offers.
With the depth in this draft, we stay put, and take highest guy on our board, at a position of need. TE, WR, OT, OG, DT, DE, S, CB.
Sheeeeet, anything other than a kicker.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Stay put, Lots of talent still on the board. that may change soon... Some good picks are coming in. getting nervous.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
TE would be niceThink there's guys worth it but not to us. With no 5th or 6th rounders, we will stay put, and maybe move down if someone offers.
With the depth in this draft, we stay put, and take highest guy on our board, at a position of need. TE, WR, OT, OG, DT, DE, S, CB.
Sheeeeet, anything other than a kicker.
massraider
Footballguy
I feel like I have been the only one that wants one, but I find it hard to believe there'll be one worth it. Niklas going to AZ here, I bet.TE would be niceThink there's guys worth it but not to us. With no 5th or 6th rounders, we will stay put, and maybe move down if someone offers.
With the depth in this draft, we stay put, and take highest guy on our board, at a position of need. TE, WR, OT, OG, DT, DE, S, CB.
Sheeeeet, anything other than a kicker.
My guess is there'll be a DT or WR that we all want.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Agreed. This is a deep draft. I'd sort of like DT Louis Nix III from Notre Dame in Round 3.Raiderfan32904 said:
massraider
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