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**2015 MLB Season Thread: This is how the chapter ends (2 Viewers)
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Peyton Marino
Footballguy
sorry, but I don't buy this one. it's hard as hell to hit a baseball, you've got <1 second from the time the pitcher throws the ball to the time you have to react. really no way this guy could have had time to think "is that ball coming at me? crap, scherzer's got a PG going, also the game is not really close right now, I should get out of the way." he has an approach at the plate and I don't expect him to alter it because some dude on the other team is about to do something cool.
of course, you could be of the opinion that he went up there with malicious intent, thinking "if this dude throws anything remotely inside, I'm leaning into it. #### yo perfect game!" but that seems like a stretch imo.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
dude did you see it? He ####in leaned into it. Its not like he just didnt move out of the way. He physically moved his elbow TOWARDS the baseball.sorry, but I don't buy this one. it's hard as hell to hit a baseball, you've got <1 second from the time the pitcher throws the ball to the time you have to react. really no way this guy could have had time to think "is that ball coming at me? crap, scherzer's got a PG going, also the game is not really close right now, I should get out of the way." he has an approach at the plate and I don't expect him to alter it because some dude on the other team is about to do something cool. of course, you could be of the opinion that he went up there with malicious intent, thinking "if this dude throws anything remotely inside, I'm leaning into it. #### yo perfect game!" but that seems like a stretch imo.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
lol, yes I saw it. believe it or not, leaning into pitches is a regular part of some guy's approaches. my point was this guy is not going up there and changing his approach because Scherzer is one out away from a no-hitter, nor should he.dude did you see it? He ####in leaned into it. Its not like he just didnt move out of the way. He physically moved his elbow TOWARDS the baseball.sorry, but I don't buy this one. it's hard as hell to hit a baseball, you've got <1 second from the time the pitcher throws the ball to the time you have to react. really no way this guy could have had time to think "is that ball coming at me? crap, scherzer's got a PG going, also the game is not really close right now, I should get out of the way." he has an approach at the plate and I don't expect him to alter it because some dude on the other team is about to do something cool. of course, you could be of the opinion that he went up there with malicious intent, thinking "if this dude throws anything remotely inside, I'm leaning into it. #### yo perfect game!" but that seems like a stretch imo.
it's a split second decision. the guy has had 1000s of PAs prior to this. if he has made a habit out of leaning in to try to get a base on a pitch inside like that, chances are he's not going to have time to decide not to do it this time because the circumstances are different.
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Peyton Marino
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
- Eric Shea @eeeeeeeeesh 15h15 hours ago
@BMcCarthy32 i had so much respect for you until this tweet
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@eeeeeeeeesh I didn't care about you at all before this tweet
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I wish that were Eric Show, not Shea.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
The Phillies have been outscored 110-54. In June.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
You couldn't be more incorrect about your second point. Let me know how much money you'll send me for each post I can find where I bump a terrible prediction I made.
And let me get this straight... I first-guess A-Rod having a great year, everyone lines up to ridicule me, and now before the All-Star break he's on pace to obliterate the "unreasonable" numbers I suggested, and I'm not allowed to mention it?
Yeah, okay.
shadyridr
Footballguy
i actually predicted a good year for him too but for the life of me cant find the post or even what thread I predicted it too and I too was ridiculed.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
I bumped some really wrong post you made a while back and you got super pissy about it.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Show me. And I'm not sure how that refutes anything I wrote.I bumped some really wrong post you made a while back and you got super pissy about it.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Sorry guys, this is a tough day for me. I used to drink a lot. I hold my breath every year waiting for some kid I've never seen before to show up at my front door holding a Father's Day present.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I think in fantasy circles A-Rod wasn't undervalued because people didn't think he'd perform, it was because there were questions about the Yankees willingness to play him and him staying healthy if he got sustained at bats. I'm not an A-Rod hater, you should have probably found some of those posts to bump instead IMO. I don't mind you bumping my post, my answer was honest and justified...not shtick.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Touki for nothing but Bronson relief. Nice deal by the Braves
East Coast Bias
Footballguy
Ridiculous call confirmed in the A's game. Not sure what they were looking at.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
If you legitimately valued 300 players higher than him, then I apologize. Thought you were being humorous.I think in fantasy circles A-Rod wasn't undervalued because people didn't think he'd perform, it was because there were questions about the Yankees willingness to play him and him staying healthy if he got sustained at bats. I'm not an A-Rod hater, you should have probably found some of those posts to bump instead IMO. I don't mind you bumping my post, my answer was honest and justified...not shtick.
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Everyone did this, he was about a #300 player. It wasnt a joke at all.If you legitimately valued 300 players higher than him, then I apologize. Thought you were being humorous.I think in fantasy circles A-Rod wasn't undervalued because people didn't think he'd perform, it was because there were questions about the Yankees willingness to play him and him staying healthy if he got sustained at bats. I'm not an A-Rod hater, you should have probably found some of those posts to bump instead IMO. I don't mind you bumping my post, my answer was honest and justified...not shtick.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
Charlie Morton put up a casual 121.50 ERA today.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
I boarded a plane in Dallas with a 10-1 lead, roughly the same as it had been all week.
Touch down in Boston and I lose 6-5.
I LOVE Sundays in a Yahoo! head-to-head league.
Touch down in Boston and I lose 6-5.
I LOVE Sundays in a Yahoo! head-to-head league.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
So my kids are close enough in age that this year they're playing on the same tee ball team. Somehow I ended up as coach accidentally. Their team name is the Cubs. That Marmol jersey is going to get a workout.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
LOOK AT ME I WAS WRONG ABOUT A BASEBALL PLAYER'S PERFORMANCE.
He's obviously hitting great, as for keeping him, I think it gets more complicated. If you're contending/close he obviously has a lot more value, if you're tearing down, then you're probably better off dealing him. It's all relative. I think he's basically fantasy's new David Ortiz, where he's DH only, providing a lot of value...but the cliff is inevitably coming, you just don't know when. I don't know what that makes David Ortiz now.
He's obviously hitting great, as for keeping him, I think it gets more complicated. If you're contending/close he obviously has a lot more value, if you're tearing down, then you're probably better off dealing him. It's all relative. I think he's basically fantasy's new David Ortiz, where he's DH only, providing a lot of value...but the cliff is inevitably coming, you just don't know when. I don't know what that makes David Ortiz now.
the moops
Footballguy
Yea, I might even prefer Gray over Bumgarner, but it is close and could go either way. Kluber is definitely the top of the list and Carrasco at the bottom
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Someone please shoot me a PM when AROD talk is over.
And speaking of shooting, can we shoot any / all Yankee fans that give this ##### a standing O when he reaches these milestones?
And speaking of shooting, can we shoot any / all Yankee fans that give this ##### a standing O when he reaches these milestones?
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
I was on the AROD train before the season...
Of course, I was pretty much wrong about everything else so
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
So much for any chance of a Pete Rose reconciliation:
SportsCenter @SportsCenter 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: @OTLonESPN obtains previously undisclosed evidence that Pete Rose bet on Reds games he played in during 1986 season.
SportsCenter @SportsCenter 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: @OTLonESPN obtains previously undisclosed evidence that Pete Rose bet on Reds games he played in during 1986 season.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
pantagrapher
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
If I were a baseball player I'd probably bet on baseball.
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
I dont see the big deal. This isnt really new news. Its just more of the old news we already knew. Until someone tells me Rose was betting against the Reds and intentionally throwing games, Im in favor of him being back in baseball.
It is news because he has been saying for the past 26 years that he never bet on baseball when he was a player.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Seems like it's a big deal to the guy who wrote the Dowd Report.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
I get that Rose is a liar. We already knew that. Just dont see how/why this changes anyones opinion. Either you dont care that he bet on his team or you do care that he bet on his team. Whats the big difference whether he's the player or the manager? Manager has more control over game than an individual player anyway.
I also understand its not that cut-and-dry for the PTB and see why this could ruin his chances. Just dont see why the casual fan would change their opinion over this.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
scoobus
Footballguy
Does he?I get that Rose is a liar. We already knew that. Just dont see how/why this changes anyones opinion. Either you dont care that he bet on his team or you do care that he bet on his team. Whats the big difference whether he's the player or the manager? Manager has more control over game than an individual player anyway.
I also understand its not that cut-and-dry for the PTB and see why this could ruin his chances. Just dont see why the casual fan would change their opinion over this.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
He does if you assume the person is always betting on his team instead of against it. A player isn't gonna try less hard in one game so he can try harder the next game, or because he tried harder the day before. A manager decides who is playing and when- if he had a big bet he'd pull out all the stops to win on a given day even if that meant his club suffered for it over the next couple days because the bullpen was spent or guys didn't get their scheduled off days or whatever.Does he?I get that Rose is a liar. We already knew that. Just dont see how/why this changes anyones opinion. Either you dont care that he bet on his team or you do care that he bet on his team. Whats the big difference whether he's the player or the manager? Manager has more control over game than an individual player anyway.
I also understand its not that cut-and-dry for the PTB and see why this could ruin his chances. Just dont see why the casual fan would change their opinion over this.
EZ Glider has a point I think. It doesn't change how I view Rose, I think betting as the manager is way worse (assuming he's betting on his team, not against it). But it looks worse in the eyes of MLB because not betting on games as a player was the thing Rose hung his last remaining hat on.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Agreed. My first thought was, "how did he sneak a Wiffle Ball out to the mound?"Billy Bats said:That's some real life bugs bunny ####.pantagrapher said:
