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I remember a time when Rodgers would have a wry smile on his face as he approached the line.  His eyes would shift quickly back and forth as he surveyed the defense, found his #####, and knew before the snap that he was going to take advantage of that #####.  He was cocky.  Now, well he seems disinterested. He never throws on time anymore.  This team is wounded and out of sink.  They need a breakout game in the worst way, and to get and stay healthy. A loss to the Bears, unlikely as that seemed not long ago, would put this team in complete panic mode, and with their injuries right now, and lack of confidence, that could happen. 

Lacy is fat, out of shape, and now clearly just soldering on through very injured, running tenderly on that ankle.  Their defensieve backfield is devastated.  The W.R.'s are dropping balls and Rodgers is missing them, and badly.  There is much to fix and I wonder if McCarthy's message is getting through.

Here's to hoping they figure things out. 

 
Sabertooth said:
Ok I take it back.  Randall is not worse than Gunter.  

Shame on Ted for the lack of depth at RB and CB.  Unacceptable.  
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Its bad huh....

And Rbs are so cheap... A Forte or  Bennet would have done magical wonders for this offense. 

The corners have regressed a lot. Gunter isn't a pro. and he's our best available right now.

Jeffrey is going for 150 on thursday. 

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I remember a time when Rodgers would have a wry smile on his face as he approached the line.  His eyes would shift quickly back and forth as he surveyed the defense, found his #####, and knew before the snap that he was going to take advantage of that #####. 
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Sometimes it seems his first focus is trying to trick the defense into getting a free play or a pre-snap penalty. That's become one of his primary weapons. I don't think I've ever seen a quarterback so focused on that part of his game.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
Sometimes it seems his first focus is trying to trick the defense into getting a free play or a pre-snap penalty. That's become one of his primary weapons. I don't think I've ever seen a quarterback so focused on that part of his game.
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I believe it has become a distraction.  Me, I'd say to him "Dude, you're Aaron freakin Rodgers.  You don't need gimmicks, just unleash that arm."

 
Sabertooth said:
Ok I take it back.  Randall is not worse than Gunter.  

Shame on Ted for the lack of depth at RB and CB.  Unacceptable.  
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Oh please. So, you were predicting three of your top corners would get injured? This is an NFL roster, there are only so many spots to go around. When your #4 guy becomes your #1 guy due to injury, expect a drop off. What's unacceptable is people refusing to see that.

As for RB, were you expecting James Starks to stink and then get injured? Once again, what signs were there that it was coming? Starks has been extremely reliable and effective when put in a game. 

 
Stick a fork in them.  This team isn't going anywhere until McCarthy goes.  He's been there too long and it's stale.  McCarthy is not Bill Belichick.

 
Man in the yellow hat said:
Oh please. So, you were predicting three of your top corners would get injured? This is an NFL roster, there are only so many spots to go around. When your #4 guy becomes your #1 guy due to injury, expect a drop off. What's unacceptable is people refusing to see that.

As for RB, were you expecting James Starks to stink and then get injured? Once again, what signs were there that it was coming? Starks has been extremely reliable and effective when put in a game. 
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Most teams have at least three running backs on their game day roster.  

Injuries to the secondary are not his fault.

An nfl team should never go into a game with only a gimpy running back and wife receivers for depth.  Are you kidding me? That's bush league.  

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I believe it has become a distraction.  Me, I'd say to him "Dude, you're Aaron freakin Rodgers.  You don't need gimmicks, just unleash that arm."
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Its like it worked 2 years ago really well...and since then its all "HUTHUT...HUTHUTHUT!!!"  Then listen to the announcers gush how great he is at drawing people offsides because of how it worked a few years ago.

Meanwhile...he is much more effective when they go no-huddle and catch teams with 12 men on the field.

 
Johnnymac said:
Stick a fork in them.  This team isn't going anywhere until McCarthy goes.  He's been there too long and it's stale.  McCarthy is not Bill Belichick.
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Very possibly...while Rodgers was playing well, even if they fell short calls like this for MM were stupid.  With the offense struggling now a 2nd consecutive year...if it does not turn around big time.  I would bet his seat gets quite hot.  

The damn thing sucks that they finally have an Oline playing that well...and the DL pretty well built.  Now the QB play isn't as good and the WR play has fallen off a cliff.

When we had a more porous OL...Rodgers and the WRs played well.  Can't quite get those things in sync.  Same with the DL and secondary.  When the secondary was stronger...the DL play was weak up the middle.  Now they are stout up the middle and the DBs are hurt and allowing guys to roam free.

 
I think Jordy is #1 on that list.

Cobb behind the other 2 at this point though.

Good question...giving it to Jordy and Cobb overall...at their best that 2014 season was hard to beat.

Jennings and Driver were never really at their best at the same time.

 
Sabertooth said:
Agreed.  Much like Andy Reid in Philly.  They need to reboot.  
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This x100.  Reid's a good comparison...not a terrible coach but just stale.  Personally I wouldn't mind a change at the top either.  I like Thompson but I've heard rumblings this may be his last year in his current role (he's 64) but he'd stay on as an advisor and they'd give the GM reigns to Eliot Wolf.  Seem's like a win/win for both the Thompson supporters and those that would like to give the kid a shot.

 
I agree.  Thompson has lost a bit off his fastball for sure.  He hasn't drafted a true NFL star since like 2010.  His strength was always in BPA and he has eschewed that for years....and what we saw Sunday is what happens when you reach pick after pick for need.  

I was always a huge supporter of Ted's.  But he needs to step aside.  

 
KingPrawn said:
Agreed. My post was posted with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Fans complain because they don't address the defensive needs. Then they complain that they don't draft WRs. Then they complain because TT doesn't trade up and hoards his draft picks. Honestly, TT would need twice as many draft picks in order to draft and address everything the fans want. Can't please 'em all.
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Could please the vast majority by doing better than they have been the past 2-3 years.  Granted, the bar is high but you know what? It should be. Aaron Rodgers is arguably one of the top 10-12 QBs ever.  The team isn't a "who's who" list of all-time players but they have a significant amount of talent that isn't matching what they should be.  Over the past few years, they have been in a division where they should have cake-walked their way to several divisional titles and home field advantage.  

In many ways, when the fans criticize right now, I think it is not so much about "we need a better LB or DE or WR", but because without saying it in words, they recognize the lost opportunities.  In some ways, this is akin to what Colts fans are saying about Andrew Luck's prime years looking like they are going to waste.  The Packers should be more. They should have been heavy favorites for a long time now. Instead, I think Packers fans are beginning to look over their shoulders and recognize a huge purple shadow enveloping them and they know they may have wasted the opportunity. 

 
50 pass attempts this Thursday. No RB to run out the clock, no GL back, no RB that they can hand it to that HCs would trust in an NFL game at least at this point.
Start your GB WRs.

 
So Packer Homers how about some advice. Should I spend my first free agent dollars of the season on acquiring Davis?

Is he worth some decent "cash" to be a solid "flex" play now and then? Or a RB2 on certain bye weeks?

 
The problem has been there for over a year now. Teams know what is happening on offense. Diversity is now a word that McCarthy can use when it comes to his offense. Talking heads and writers since Sunday have said that Green Bay offense has not changed over the years. A lot of fans are also seeing this but McCarthy is giving his coach speak about each year is a new team and new year. That might be true but the offense and its plays have not changed over the years.

 
I dunno, you may not yet be familiar with LaDarius "Dumpster Inferno" Gunter.

He behaves like a bugged Madden player, sprinting to a random location and then lunging to the ground.

 
Talk about a team and a season on the brink, Bob Knight's Hoosiers had nothing compared to where this team is right now.  the whole season is teetering.

 
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So the Pack is going to be without their TOP 2 RBs and their TOP 3 CBs?  Wow, this season is going straight into the ####ter. Normally, a NORMAL Rodgers might be able to overcome this himself but not with the way he's been playing the last year.

I don't even know who is going to win this game.

 
MaxThreshold said:
So the Pack is going to be without their TOP 2 RBs and their TOP 3 CBs?  Wow, this season is going straight into the ####ter. Normally, a NORMAL Rodgers might be able to overcome this himself but not with the way he's been playing the last year.

I don't even know who is going to win this game.
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I am viewing this not only as a must win game, but a must not sustain another injury game, even if relatively insignificant.  right now I have no expectation that they can beat a fairly depleted Bears squad.  Given that I cannot really be disappointed this week.  A loss will fulfill my current, disappointed expectation, while a win will make me very happy if it comes with good news, for once, on the injury front.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I am viewing this not only as a must win game, but a must not sustain another injury game, even if relatively insignificant.  right now I have no expectation that they can beat a fairly depleted Bears squad.  Given that I cannot really be disappointed this week.  A loss will fulfill my current, disappointed expectation, while a win will make me very happy if it comes with good news, for once, on the injury front.
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Yes...a win in any form, with no injuries would be great.  I don't care how ugly it even is.

Get those extra few days of rest for the rest of the hurt guys and try and recover.  This is a just get thru it unscathed kind of game.

 
Rubi said:
So Packer Homers how about some advice. Should I spend my first free agent dollars of the season on acquiring Davis?

Is he worth some decent "cash" to be a solid "flex" play now and then? Or a RB2 on certain bye weeks?
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Yes.  They have nothing else.  

 
For a team with a GM who is praised for his team depth building, the Packers sure do seem to get derailed easily when an injury strikes.  Maybe, just maybe, Ted is a bit overrated.  

If Rodgers went down today, does anyone think the Packers could win a game, let alone thrive ala New England sans Brady?

When Jordy went down last season we saw how woefully thin the Packers receivers actually were.  

This year they are running Wide receivers because they got dinged at RB.  No Charcandrick Wests or Spencer Wares coming to save the day.  

They have very weak corners behind Shields.  Nobody is expected to step up.  

How thin is this team really?  Becaus they sure seem paper thin just about everywhere.  

 
Sabertooth said:
For a team with a GM who is praised for his team depth building, the Packers sure do seem to get derailed easily when an injury strikes.  Maybe, just maybe, Ted is a bit overrated.  

If Rodgers went down today, does anyone think the Packers could win a game, let alone thrive ala New England sans Brady?

When Jordy went down last season we saw how woefully thin the Packers receivers actually were.  

This year they are running Wide receivers because they got dinged at RB.  No Charcandrick Wests or Spencer Wares coming to save the day.  

They have very weak corners behind Shields.  Nobody is expected to step up.  

How thin is this team really?  Becaus they sure seem paper thin just about everywhere.  
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I would say they have depth of both lines but would agree about the lack of depth elsewhere.  Though I think every team would have issues if their top 3 CB's were injured.  However there is absolutely no excuse for the RB situation.  Lacy, even though in better shape, is still overweight and prone to ankle issues and Starks is on the wrong side of 30.  Absolutely needed another back in there.  For the life of me I can't figure out why the Packers don't have a legit 3rd down back someone like a James White that's a decent blocker and can catch a half dozen passes a game. Seems like a great way to take some pressure of Rodgers and the WR's.

 
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Sabertooth said:
For a team with a GM who is praised for his team depth building, the Packers sure do seem to get derailed easily when an injury strikes.  Maybe, just maybe, Ted is a bit overrated.  

If Rodgers went down today, does anyone think the Packers could win a game, let alone thrive ala New England sans Brady?

When Jordy went down last season we saw how woefully thin the Packers receivers actually were.  

This year they are running Wide receivers because they got dinged at RB.  No Charcandrick Wests or Spencer Wares coming to save the day.  

They have very weak corners behind Shields.  Nobody is expected to step up.  

How thin is this team really?  Becaus they sure seem paper thin just about everywhere.  
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So...losing your top 2 RBS and 3 CBs is just a normal thing...huh?

 
Sabertooth said:
For a team with a GM who is praised for his team depth building, the Packers sure do seem to get derailed easily when an injury strikes.  Maybe, just maybe, Ted is a bit overrated.  

If Rodgers went down today, does anyone think the Packers could win a game, let alone thrive ala New England sans Brady?

When Jordy went down last season we saw how woefully thin the Packers receivers actually were.  

This year they are running Wide receivers because they got dinged at RB.  No Charcandrick Wests or Spencer Wares coming to save the day.  

They have very weak corners behind Shields.  Nobody is expected to step up.  

How thin is this team really?  Becaus they sure seem paper thin just about everywhere.  
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If Rodgers went down I think Hundley would serve adequately.  I think he is better than half the backups in the league at a minimum.  Hell, I thought Callahan was the equivalent of Trevor Siemien, its a shame they lost him.

When Jordy went down he was followed in quick succession with injuries to Cobb, Adams, and Montgomery.  To pretend there was only the one as a factor is disingenuous.  I get that the national media (I.e. idiots unfamiliar with the team) spouts that line but I would expect more from a Packer fan.  When you deliberately ignore salient facts you know as well as us why would we lend credence to your argument.

I agree that coming out of training camp with only 2 R.B.'s was taking a big chance, a chance so big it seemed foolish then and has proven foolish now.  They did so to retain long term value in Callahan and Abbrederis, a move many fans supported.  Regardless it has gone as poorly as it might.  Instead of retaining value on the roster we are losing it to other teams in the form of players and draft picks.  The gamble taken was extremely risky.  I would argue foolhardy in light of what they might have retained in value for the future.

I believe the Packers corners are average.  They are also young and improving.  Being down to playing their fourth and fifth corner I expect only raw prospects, not finished product.

This team was thin at R.B. and a bit fat at W.R., otherwise the roster was constructed within the norms for the league. for a 3/4 team

 
Man in the yellow hat said:
Happens all the time. I cant' believe they don't have three starting caliber running backs and 5 starting DBs. Yes, that's sarcasm....

I'm with you Sho. Lots of reasons to be critical of Thompson. This is not one of them. 
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I agree with thise sayig it was a tough risk only carrying 2 RBs...you pointed out well why they did so.

 
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