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2016 Oakland Raiders thread (3 Viewers)

massraider said:
If they have their own stadium, and can count on a legit revenue stream worthy of being in the NFL (the A's control concessions in Oakland, and the Raiders pay rent) then Oakland is my 1st choice, followed by San Antonio. Taxes and quality of life...whatever. I don't think those factors are decision-makers, just ancillary benefits or negatives.

I believe Mark exhausts Oakland options, and if no deal, looks at San Antonio. Teams move because they get sweetheart deals, it certainly looks like San Antonio is more willing to play ball.

The LA thing held everything up, and I think Davis is disappointed, but if they wind up in Oakland or San Antonio, they could wind up coming out of this OK. Just too early to tell now. It really is starting over, but I believe things have to move quick now, because the Raiders need a resolution.
They need a resolution, they need a stadium and they need a lease in the meantime.

So, the NFL is now ready to kick in $300 million. Last I heard, we have about $300 million. $900 million is really the starting point of having a modern stadium and that is on the small side. Oakland is not giving up cash though I think that they finally will concede most everything else. Where do we get the rest of the cash in an Oakland deal?
really? hadn't heard this. link to an article or something? Sounds like an interesting new wrinkle if true (and, honestly, more in the range of what I was expecting to be the "buy out" payment from the NFL to the Raiders)
I could be wrong about this but I thought $300 mil was sort of the standard NFL offer to help build a stadium. I think it was in play for San Diego and Oakland before the Los Angeles thing was decided. Does anyone know, that if true, whether or not it includes the $100 mil payout?

 
massraider said:
If they have their own stadium, and can count on a legit revenue stream worthy of being in the NFL (the A's control concessions in Oakland, and the Raiders pay rent) then Oakland is my 1st choice, followed by San Antonio. Taxes and quality of life...whatever. I don't think those factors are decision-makers, just ancillary benefits or negatives.

I believe Mark exhausts Oakland options, and if no deal, looks at San Antonio. Teams move because they get sweetheart deals, it certainly looks like San Antonio is more willing to play ball.

The LA thing held everything up, and I think Davis is disappointed, but if they wind up in Oakland or San Antonio, they could wind up coming out of this OK. Just too early to tell now. It really is starting over, but I believe things have to move quick now, because the Raiders need a resolution.
They need a resolution, they need a stadium and they need a lease in the meantime.

So, the NFL is now ready to kick in $300 million. Last I heard, we have about $300 million. $900 million is really the starting point of having a modern stadium and that is on the small side. Oakland is not giving up cash though I think that they finally will concede most everything else. Where do we get the rest of the cash in an Oakland deal?
really? hadn't heard this. link to an article or something? Sounds like an interesting new wrinkle if true (and, honestly, more in the range of what I was expecting to be the "buy out" payment from the NFL to the Raiders)
I could be wrong about this but I thought $300 mil was sort of the standard NFL offer to help build a stadium. I think it was in play for San Diego and Oakland before the Los Angeles thing was decided. Does anyone know, that if true, whether or not it includes the $100 mil payout?
$200 million is the standard and then with the additional$100 million we would get $300 million total from the league to help build a stadium.

 
The one problem that I see with London, for any team, is no night games as kick on Monday/Thursday/Sunday would be almost 2AM.
Conversely this year they were able to go with early Sunday kickoff times in the U.S. allowing for four Sunday broadcasts. The London team would have a dedicated time slot with no competition from other games up to eight times/year.

 
If they have their own stadium, and can count on a legit revenue stream worthy of being in the NFL (the A's control concessions in Oakland, and the Raiders pay rent) then Oakland is my 1st choice, followed by San Antonio. Taxes and quality of life...whatever. I don't think those factors are decision-makers, just ancillary benefits or negatives.

I believe Mark exhausts Oakland options, and if no deal, looks at San Antonio. Teams move because they get sweetheart deals, it certainly looks like San Antonio is more willing to play ball.

The LA thing held everything up, and I think Davis is disappointed, but if they wind up in Oakland or San Antonio, they could wind up coming out of this OK. Just too early to tell now. It really is starting over, but I believe things have to move quick now, because the Raiders need a resolution.
They need a resolution, they need a stadium and they need a lease in the meantime.

So, the NFL is now ready to kick in $300 million. Last I heard, we have about $300 million. $900 million is really the starting point of having a modern stadium and that is on the small side. Oakland is not giving up cash though I think that they finally will concede most everything else. Where do we get the rest of the cash in an Oakland deal?
really? hadn't heard this. link to an article or something? Sounds like an interesting new wrinkle if true (and, honestly, more in the range of what I was expecting to be the "buy out" payment from the NFL to the Raiders)
I believe the $300M is the total after combining the normal $200M the League would provide to a new stadium along with the $100M given as a result of the Raiders part in the latest LA adventures.

 
The one problem that I see with London, for any team, is no night games as kick on Monday/Thursday/Sunday would be almost 2AM.
Conversely this year they were able to go with early Sunday kickoff times in the U.S. allowing for four Sunday broadcasts. The London team would have a dedicated time slot with no competition from other games up to eight times/year.
Not a fan of early Sunday games. The NFL is on too much already.

I do not care where the Raiders move but London would be last on my list.

 
If they move to London their home games would start at 6:30 AM PT. Talk about alienating the existing CA fanbase. No thanks.

 
are they playing in Oakland in 2016?
Last I read this wasn't confirmed. I don't believe the lease is in place in Oakland for 2016. I think they might be homeless at the moment to be honest. And further more I believe the League has final approval on all lease agreements (whether or not that means anything here)...

 
are they playing in Oakland in 2016?
I don't see any way they won't be. I think they're stuck in that building for the foreseeable future.
They don't have a lease, but logistically they are getting short on time to find an alternative. My guess is they will do a 1 year with the Coliseum as a last ditch effort to get the stadium done there. In 2017 they end up in San Antonio. I think the Chargers end up in LA, and even if not I don't see them going to LA as a 3rd SoCal team. It's either Oakland ponying up or SNA, and if Oakland were going to make it easy for them to stay they would have by now.

Personally, I don't care. I just want them to get a real stadium and the revenue to go with it so they can get financially competitive. There's the base for a good product here, can't lose that due to funding.

 
are they playing in Oakland in 2016?
I don't see any way they won't be. I think they're stuck in that building for the foreseeable future.
They don't have a lease, but logistically they are getting short on time to find an alternative. My guess is they will do a 1 year with the Coliseum as a last ditch effort to get the stadium done there. In 2017 they end up in San Antonio. I think the Chargers end up in LA, and even if not I don't see them going to LA as a 3rd SoCal team. It's either Oakland ponying up or SNA, and if Oakland were going to make it easy for them to stay they would have by now.

Personally, I don't care. I just want them to get a real stadium and the revenue to go with it so they can get financially competitive. There's the base for a good product here, can't lose that due to funding.
It's also sounding like San Diego is becoming a real option for the Raiders as well. Having three options, Oakland, San Diego, and San Antonio is nice. Play them off each other and get the best deal possible.

 
The San Antonio Raiders. So.Much.Wrong.There.

Jerrah ain't gonna let that happen anyway.

 
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Sell the team to Larry Ellison, build a new crib on Candlestick Point, still call them the Oakland Raiders, everything be good.

 
are they playing in Oakland in 2016?
I don't see any way they won't be. I think they're stuck in that building for the foreseeable future.
They don't have a lease, but logistically they are getting short on time to find an alternative. My guess is they will do a 1 year with the Coliseum as a last ditch effort to get the stadium done there. In 2017 they end up in San Antonio. I think the Chargers end up in LA, and even if not I don't see them going to LA as a 3rd SoCal team. It's either Oakland ponying up or SNA, and if Oakland were going to make it easy for them to stay they would have by now.

Personally, I don't care. I just want them to get a real stadium and the revenue to go with it so they can get financially competitive. There's the base for a good product here, can't lose that due to funding.
It's also sounding like San Diego is becoming a real option for the Raiders as well. Having three options, Oakland, San Diego, and San Antonio is nice. Play them off each other and get the best deal possible.
I don't think SD is real. If they were willing to pony up, it would be for the Chargers. Why go in behind Spanos and beg for the scraps he rejected? I'm also wondering if three teams can survive in such a compact area. I realize it's the 2nd largest metro in the US, but it's three teams in a town with the most alternatives and distractions imaginable. Something like 11 other pro franchises. Beaches with year round weather to support it. All the entertainment/movie/Hollywood scene. Combined with traffic, all of a sudden fans 20 miles away take 2 hours to get to the game. Hmm I can spend 4 hours in the car, or I can watch it on my iPad from the golf course or beach along with 3 other games or make the wife happy and go to wine country with the game on my phone. There's literally nothing to do in Cleveland in December, and whatever it is you'll freeze your tail off, may as well go sit 300 yards from Lake Erie for maximum lake effect wind to punish you.

But yeah, the options are nice. I'd love to see them stay, the Oakland Raiders are iconic, but hey it's 2016 and we gotta keep up with progress.

 
The San Antonio Raiders. So.Much.Wrong.There.

Jerrah ain't gonna let that happen anyway.
As much as there is reason to doubt Mark Davis as a businessman, playing up San Antonio is possibly a brilliant move.

Between Jerry Johnson and Bob McNair you have two of the richest owners in the NFL and threatening a move to San Antonio may be a way to get them to convince the NFL to pony up more cash, if necessary, for a new stadium in another market.

 
D Carr named to the pro bowl in year 2. Cool

Cooper and Edwards make the all rookie team. Awesome.

Keep the accolades coming. :yes:
I'm happy for him and all but...meh. The pro bowl is little more than a popularity contest in the first place and Carr wasn't selected to be there he is just a replacement.

Now Mack being named first team all-pro at two positions is pretty darn crazy. I think that is as impressive, if not more, than being a unanimous selection at one position.

 
I love Senior Bowl week. It happens during the AFC title game week, which is a boring week to watch TV.

Set your DVRs for the practice coverage, it's on NFL Network.

And the rosters have a pretty good amount of players, especially in the defensive backfield, that we should be interested in.

Rosters (and some guys I am interested to watch):

North teamQuarterbacks
Jeff Driskel, Louisiana Tech
Kevin Hogan, Stanford
Cody Kessler, USC
Carson Wentz, North Dakota State

Running backs
Kenneth Dixon, Louisiana Tech
Tyler Ervin, San Jose State
Chris Swain (FB), Navy
Soma Vainuku (FB), USC

Receivers
Aaron Burbridge, Michigan State
Leonte Carroo, Rutgers
Henry Krieger-Coble (TE), Iowa
K.J. Maye, Minnesota
Braxton Miller, Ohio State
Chris Moore, Cincinnati
Jordan Payton, UCLA
Nick Vannett (TE), Ohio State
Bryce Williams (TE), East Carolina

Offensive linemen
Jack Allen ©, Michigan State
Willie Beavers (OG), Western Michigan
Austin Blythe ©, Iowa
Joe Dahl (OT), Washington State
Josh Garnett (OG), Stanford
Joe Haeg (OT), North Dakota State
Nick Martin (OG), Notre Dame
Kyle Murphy (OT), Stanford
Jason Spriggs (OT), Indiana

Cole Toner (OT), Harvard

Defensive linemen

Vernon Butler (DT), Louisiana Tech

Sheldon Day (DT), Notre Dame
Jason Fanaika (DE), Utah
Matt Ioannidis (DT), Temple
Austin Johnson (DT), Penn State
Carl Nassib (DE), Penn State
Lawrence Thomas (DE), Michigan State
Jihad Ward (DE), Illinois
Adolphus Washington (DT), Ohio State

Linebackers
Kyler Fackrell (OLB), Utah State
Nick Kwiatkoski (ILB), West Virginia
Blake Martinez (ILB), Stanford
Tyler Matakevich (ILB), Temple
Jared Norris (ILB), Utah
Joshua Perry (OLB), Ohio State
Joe Schobert (OLB), Wisconsin

Defensive backs

Maurice Canady (CB), Virginia
K.J. Dillon (S), West Virginia
Deiondre' Hall (CB), Northern Iowa
William Jackson III (CB), Houston
Miles Killebrew (S), Southern Utah
Eric Murray (CB), Minnesota
Kevin Peterson (CB), Oklahoma State
Tyvis Powell (S), Ohio State
Darian Thompson (S), Boise State

Tavon Young (CB), Temple

Specialists
Riley Dixon, P, Syracuse
Ka'imi Fairbairn, K, UCLA
Jeff Overbaugh, LS, San Diego State

South teamQuarterbacks
Brandon Allen, Arkansas
Jacoby Brissett, N.C. State
Jake Coker, Alabama
Dak Prescott, Mississippi State

Running backs
Kenyan Drake, Alabama
Aaron Green, TCU
Dan Vitale (FB), Northwestern
Jonathan Williams, Arkansas

Receivers
Jerell Adams (TE), South Carolina
Glenn Gronkowski (TE), Kansas State
Jay Lee, Baylor
Jake McGee (TE), Florida
Paul McRoberts, Southeast Missouri
Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia
Charone Peake, Clemson
Sterling Shepard, Oklahoma

Offensive linemen
Vadal Alexander (OT), LSU
Evan Boehm ©, Missouri
Le'Raven Clark (OT), Texas Tech
Spencer Drango (OT), Baylor
Graham Glasgow ©, Michigan
Connor McGovern (OG), Missouri
John Theus (OT), Georgia
Sebastian Tretola (OG), Arkansas
Christian Westerman (OG), Arizona State
Cody Whitehair (OG), Kansas State


Quinton Jefferson (DT), Maryland
Bronson Kaufusi (DE), BYU
Dadi Nicolas (DE), Virginia Tech
Shawn Oakman (DE), Baylor
Sheldon Rankins (DE), Louisville
Jarran Reed (DE), Alabama
Noah Spence (DE), Eastern Kentucky
Charles Tapper (DE), Oklahoma

Linebackers
Kentrell Brothers (ILB), Missouri
Josh Forrest (ILB), Kentucky
Jordan Jenkins (OLB), Georgia
Deion Jones (ILB), LSU
Antonio Morrison (ILB), Florida
Reggie Ragland (OLB), Alabama
Eric Striker (OLB), Oklahoma

Defensive backs
James Bradberry (CB), Samford
Kevin Byard (S), Middle Tennessee State
Jeremy Cash (S), Duke

Sean Davis (S), Maryland
DeAndre Houston-Carson (S), William & Mary
Cyrus Jones (CB), Alabama
Jonathan Jones (CB), Auburn
Harlan Miller (CB), SE Louisiana
Jalen Mills (CB), LSU

Specialists
Alex Kinal, P, Wake Forest
Jimmy Landes, LS, Baylor
Ross Martin, K, Duke

 
Eric Mangini was fired by SF. Seems to me maybe a good fit to hire him as like a special defensive consultant or assistant DC.... some odd or such. I like Norton but I get the feeling he would benefit from having someone with more coaching experience to lean on, have an ear, etc. Am I off on this?

 
If Chargers pick LA, Raiders prepared to pounce on San Diego

By Vincent Bonsignore

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160120/if-chargers-pick-la-raiders-prepared-to-pounce-on-san-diego
I watched a segment where this chick went around SD interviewing people asking them if they could support the Raiders if they moved to SD. 90% said no. But then if she reframed the question in terms of supporting the LA Chargers or SD Raiders then most jumped on to the Raiders side.

The one thing I found interesting about that is that I think the Chargers will have a hard time in LA. They are going to lose the SD fans for sure and I don't think the LA fans will come on board. Those not loyal to a team are jumping on to the Rams already and most of those loyal are loyal to the Raiders who have proven they will remain loyal even as the team moves around the state. I think the Chargers will have one of the least supportive fan bases in the league in LA. Then again, being LA, all they have to do is start winning games and people will buy tickets and act like they are fans. I think LA is the most fickle of all fanbases... and I say that as a born and bred guy from the LA area.

 
I think the Raiders in San Diego is going to be a reality.

I don't like the name San Diego Raiders though. California Raiders? Golden State Raiders? Pacific Raiders? Raiders of the Pacific?

It'll be San Diego Raiders.

 
That would crush the Charger fan base. Maybe a good plan. Go down there, scarf up all their fans, drive them to STL, move to LA and split SoCal with the Rams 60/40.

 
I think that much like the San Antonio noise that talk of moving to SD would just be to try and leverage the league to pony up more money for a stadium in Oakland (or Portland or London or...).

When you have uber rich and influential owners like Kroenke, McNair and most importantly Jerry Jones* aligning against the notion of splitting a fan base even further, as would happen if the Raiders moved to So. Cal or Texas, they will be able to rally enough owners to the cause of making sure the Raiders have a new stadium in a different market (Oakland, Portland, London...wherever). If that means more money from the NFL than they normally give then so be it. What would be ideal is if that process involved trying to strong arm the Raiders into bringing on another owner, one with deep pockets to give the franchise financial stability moving forward.

*Sorry Spanos you don't really count as an important owner but thanks for coming out and the Raiders appreciate your vote.

 
In 2013, California had the Oakland Raiders, San Francisco 49ers, and San Diego Chargers.

In 2017, it might be the San Diego Raiders, San Jose 49ers, Los Angeles Chargers, and Los Angeles Rams.

 
SD HATES the Raiders. I don't get why you go to a city where the fanbase hates you? I know there will be plenty of people to drive from LA for the games but doesn't this just seem insane? Kind of funny as a Raider fan to take over their city but moving to SD and the Chargers moving to LA just seems wrong. Some wormhole may just suck us all up and end our reality on the day those teams kickoff in their new cities. Seems like moving to some random city like Salt Lake City would be better.

I guess the NFL knows that true fans are actually in the minority and SD people will just jump on the bandwagon?

(I went to jr high/high school in SD hating the Chargers. Will be pretty cool to have my team in my hometown now, hahaha)

 
RosterWatch
‏@RosterWatch
#Raiders meeting with #TexasTech OT Le'Raven Clark. 6-6 and slender.

RosterWatch ‏@RosterWatch 2m2 minutes ago
#Raiders scout and former TD-machine Zack Crockett meeting with #UCLA WR Jordan Payton.

RosterWatch ‏@RosterWatch 2m2 minutes ago
#Raiders and #Packers both met with #Bearcats WR Chris Moore. The Reggie apple doesn't fall far from the Ted tree.

RosterWatch ‏@RosterWatch 2m2 minutes ago
#Raiders scouts coming out of private meeting with #Virginia CB Maurice Canady.

 
SD HATES the Raiders. I don't get why you go to a city where the fanbase hates you? I know there will be plenty of people to drive from LA for the games but doesn't this just seem insane? Kind of funny as a Raider fan to take over their city but moving to SD and the Chargers moving to LA just seems wrong. Some wormhole may just suck us all up and end our reality on the day those teams kickoff in their new cities. Seems like moving to some random city like Salt Lake City would be better.

I guess the NFL knows that true fans are actually in the minority and SD people will just jump on the bandwagon?

(I went to jr high/high school in SD hating the Chargers. Will be pretty cool to have my team in my hometown now, hahaha)
I'm not understanding it either. BOth from a fan-base level and an operational level.

From the fan perspective, hard to understand why a hated division rival for so many years would automatically be embraced and supported with open arms. Though having a team is definitely better than not having a team.

From an operational level, Qualcomm is also on a similar year-to-year lease as O.co is, there is still a need for a new stadium to compete in this day and age NFL, and there is still the same local unwillingness to get it done. This is forcing the Chargers to potentially move to LA, so won't the Raiders simply be walking into the same situation they have in Oakland now?

 
RosterWatch
‏@RosterWatch
#Raiders meeting with #TexasTech OT Le'Raven Clark. 6-6 and slender.

RosterWatch ‏@RosterWatch 2m2 minutes ago
#Raiders scout and former TD-machine Zack Crockett meeting with #UCLA WR Jordan Payton.

RosterWatch ‏@RosterWatch 2m2 minutes ago
#Raiders and #Packers both met with #Bearcats WR Chris Moore. The Reggie apple doesn't fall far from the Ted tree.

RosterWatch ‏@RosterWatch 2m2 minutes ago#Raiders scouts coming out of private meeting with #Virginia CB Maurice Canady.
RosterWatch@RosterWatch 1h1 hour ago
Whoooo - #Raiders scouts just walked out of meeting with #Illini DE Jihad Ward. Let's just say he must work out.

RosterWatch@RosterWatch 2h2 hours ago
#Raiders now meeting with #Gators LB Antonio Morrison.

 
SD HATES the Raiders. I don't get why you go to a city where the fanbase hates you? I know there will be plenty of people to drive from LA for the games but doesn't this just seem insane? Kind of funny as a Raider fan to take over their city but moving to SD and the Chargers moving to LA just seems wrong. Some wormhole may just suck us all up and end our reality on the day those teams kickoff in their new cities. Seems like moving to some random city like Salt Lake City would be better.

I guess the NFL knows that true fans are actually in the minority and SD people will just jump on the bandwagon?

(I went to jr high/high school in SD hating the Chargers. Will be pretty cool to have my team in my hometown now, hahaha)
I'm not understanding it either. BOth from a fan-base level and an operational level.

From the fan perspective, hard to understand why a hated division rival for so many years would automatically be embraced and supported with open arms. Though having a team is definitely better than not having a team.

From an operational level, Qualcomm is also on a similar year-to-year lease as O.co is, there is still a need for a new stadium to compete in this day and age NFL, and there is still the same local unwillingness to get it done. This is forcing the Chargers to potentially move to LA, so won't the Raiders simply be walking into the same situation they have in Oakland now?
Raiders wouldn't go to San Diego unless there is some sort of stadium deal done first.

 
Chase Goodbread
‏@ChaseGoodbread
Reggie Ragland now meeting with multiple #Raiders scouts. Here's guessing they'll do extra homework on Alabama MLBs.
 
The idea of drafting Ragland makes me queasy. It's not his fault, it's Rolando McClain's, but I can't help it. I haven't even watched highlights. I hop we sign Jerrell Freeman or Danny Trevathan, and people can stop mocking Ragland to us.

Like the Antonio Morrison connection. Had some injuries, and looks like a Day 3 pick. I would approve. Check some highlights, he can move very well. Wonder if he's the next under the radar FLA prospect from the Zach Crockett train.

 
The idea of drafting Ragland makes me queasy. It's not his fault, it's Rolando McClain's, but I can't help it. I haven't even watched highlights. I hop we sign Jerrell Freeman or Danny Trevathan, and people can stop mocking Ragland to us.

Like the Antonio Morrison connection. Had some injuries, and looks like a Day 3 pick. I would approve. Check some highlights, he can move very well. Wonder if he's the next under the radar FLA prospect from the Zach Crockett train.
Agree on Ragland for the same reason. I also think its tough to evaluate Alabama LBs since their defensive line is so dominant and requires so much blocking attention.

 
The idea of drafting Ragland makes me queasy. It's not his fault, it's Rolando McClain's, but I can't help it. I haven't even watched highlights. I hop we sign Jerrell Freeman or Danny Trevathan, and people can stop mocking Ragland to us.

Like the Antonio Morrison connection. Had some injuries, and looks like a Day 3 pick. I would approve. Check some highlights, he can move very well. Wonder if he's the next under the radar FLA prospect from the Zach Crockett train.
Agree on Ragland for the same reason. I also think its tough to evaluate Alabama LBs since their defensive line is so dominant and requires so much blocking attention.
The whole team is stacked since Saban has been jamming in top recruiting class after top recruiting class there.

McClain showed he can play well in big D. His biggest failure was basically being a head case that needed a lot of time to get right or right enough.

 
The idea of drafting Ragland makes me queasy. It's not his fault, it's Rolando McClain's, but I can't help it. I haven't even watched highlights. I hop we sign Jerrell Freeman or Danny Trevathan, and people can stop mocking Ragland to us.

Like the Antonio Morrison connection. Had some injuries, and looks like a Day 3 pick. I would approve. Check some highlights, he can move very well. Wonder if he's the next under the radar FLA prospect from the Zach Crockett train.
Agree on Ragland for the same reason. I also think its tough to evaluate Alabama LBs since their defensive line is so dominant and requires so much blocking attention.
I have to agree as well.

If they go with a LB I think the Notre Dame kid Jaylon Smith is far more intriguing. Not sure he would be able to make the transition to the middle full time but he just looks to have that "it" factor to be a disruptive force at all levels of the defense. I am probably overstating it because it is tough to judge based on college highlights but is size/speed combo plus what looks like excellent football awareness makes him look like one of the few players who might have a legitimate shot at countering the resurgence of of the tight end in the NFL over the past couple of seasons. Not sure he could handle Gronk, no one can really at least not one-on-one, but he seems to be a matchup nightmare for most TEs and RBs out of the backfield. Add the ability to get after the QB plus the confidence to stick his nose in a pile to stuff the run and he just seems like an answer to a lot of needs for Oakland. Pair him with Mack and, hopefully, Aldon Smith and a, hopefully, healthy Mario Edwards and that front seven should be able take away that extra half second that is allowing QBs to torch the secondary so regularly.

 
You have to be nervous about the knee injury with Jaylon, but man, he's a wrecking ball. His highlights clips are football porn.

Linebacker is an interesting position for this team. Heeney, Smith, and Ball have all done well, to various degrees, but can we say any are cornerstones? Probably not. There are LB to be found in FA this year, and it's considered a strong position in the draft, so one could argue that the risk might not be worth it in the 1st with Jaylon.

Absolute statements are silly this time of year, but if not for that injury, you can confidently say he wouldn't be available to us at #14. Heck, people are still mocking him in the top 10, even after the injury. Speaks to his talent level.

BTW, regarding Ragland, he weighed in at 259 at the Senior Bowl, and under 6'2''. He's also playing OLB this week, NOT inside.

 
The idea of drafting Ragland makes me queasy. It's not his fault, it's Rolando McClain's, but I can't help it. I haven't even watched highlights. I hop we sign Jerrell Freeman or Danny Trevathan, and people can stop mocking Ragland to us.

Like the Antonio Morrison connection. Had some injuries, and looks like a Day 3 pick. I would approve. Check some highlights, he can move very well. Wonder if he's the next under the radar FLA prospect from the Zach Crockett train.
Agree on Ragland for the same reason. I also think its tough to evaluate Alabama LBs since their defensive line is so dominant and requires so much blocking attention.
I have to agree as well.

If they go with a LB I think the Notre Dame kid Jaylon Smith is far more intriguing. Not sure he would be able to make the transition to the middle full time but he just looks to have that "it" factor to be a disruptive force at all levels of the defense. I am probably overstating it because it is tough to judge based on college highlights but is size/speed combo plus what looks like excellent football awareness makes him look like one of the few players who might have a legitimate shot at countering the resurgence of of the tight end in the NFL over the past couple of seasons. Not sure he could handle Gronk, no one can really at least not one-on-one, but he seems to be a matchup nightmare for most TEs and RBs out of the backfield. Add the ability to get after the QB plus the confidence to stick his nose in a pile to stuff the run and he just seems like an answer to a lot of needs for Oakland. Pair him with Mack and, hopefully, Aldon Smith and a, hopefully, healthy Mario Edwards and that front seven should be able take away that extra half second that is allowing QBs to torch the secondary so regularly.
I have to wonder if a similar thought was running thru the Texan's draft room the year that Carr came out: "We should pass on him because of our experience with his brother." :)

The problem with McClain was mental. Once he had the motivation and desire he showed that he could play (in Dallas unfortunately). I think if anything I would be more concerned about Reggie's history drafting players coming off an injury (Hayden). But my main point is you simply cannot apply a previous player's history to a different payer. Each player should be evaluated on their own merits.

 
Jon Ledyard@LedyardNFLDraft 32m32 minutes ago
Sat next to @chucksmithnfl during weigh-ins. So much good insight, Told me he thinks Reggie Ragland might be the best 3-4 EDGE in country.

Weird.
If he is projecting to OLB in a 3-4 no less then I can't see the Raiders wanting him too seriously. Secondary is still the biggest need and the talent could be there at 14 with either Alexander or Hargreaves. J. Smith is mostly intriguing because it really looks like he can be disruptive in pass coverage, getting after the QB and in the run game. Injury or no that kind versatility, without having the label of "tweener" should not be overlooked. His injury could be a blessing for the Raiders.

 
You have to be nervous about the knee injury with Jaylon, but man, he's a wrecking ball. His highlights clips are football porn.

Linebacker is an interesting position for this team. Heeney, Smith, and Ball have all done well, to various degrees, but can we say any are cornerstones? Probably not. There are LB to be found in FA this year, and it's considered a strong position in the draft, so one could argue that the risk might not be worth it in the 1st with Jaylon.

Absolute statements are silly this time of year, but if not for that injury, you can confidently say he wouldn't be available to us at #14. Heck, people are still mocking him in the top 10, even after the injury. Speaks to his talent level.

BTW, regarding Ragland, he weighed in at 259 at the Senior Bowl, and under 6'2''. He's also playing OLB this week, NOT inside.
Without the injury I would not expect Jaylon to be on the board after the first 5 picks. Like you said even with the injury #14 may be dreaming.

I think MacKenzie is pretty much in the best player available that fits your system mold. I think Mack, Aldon Smith and Jaylon Smith (assuming we re-sign Aldon which I think is very likely) and figuring out how to get them all on the field is a nice problem to have. It makes for a nightmare for offenses to figure out how to attack the D without losing their QB and helps the secondary. Further, I can not imagine MacKenzie not signing some secondary help in FA before we get to the draft. Maybe that won't remake the secondary but it should bring help to the point that we are not over worried about the position.

 
Agreed, I would be shocked to not see two DB starters brought in before the draft.

Goal should be: Best player. Free agency is where you go looking for a CB or a S or a MLB. Do it in the draft, and you lose.

 

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