i wonder if the fans in Oakland will still attend the games from now until they moveWould be awesome if they could bring one or more additional Superbowl trophies to Oakland before they leave for the desert.
Surely some will avoid the team now. Others will go as a "last chance" sort of thing. Either way, it wouldn't be the first time the upper bowl was empty.i wonder if the fans in Oakland will still attend the games from now until they move
I couldn't care less.Will Marshawn still want to play for the Raiders now? I realize he'll be playing in Oakland since the move is a few years away. But he's an Oakland kid, maybe out of spite or anger he's going to say forget it now....
plenty of fans fly in now from Los Angeles to catch the games, I'm sure the stadium will be packed regardless.i wonder if the fans in Oakland will still attend the games from now until they move
I was kidding, the Angels have always been in Anaheim which is orange county but are now the Los Angeles Angels of AnaheimThey are going to play in Oakland for the next two years. So, they will be Oakland Raiders for sure. Third year is up in the air right now where they will play. If they have to leave Oakland and play somewhere else (Where? LV does not have an option. The UNLV stadium is a small mess) that is where they will likely shed the Oakland and adopt LV.
but there have been some good points. 1 pm on a Sunday and your on a heater, do you leave and go to the game? Hell no. Their home field advantage is probably shot, comp'd tickets and tourists are gonna negate what we had here in Oakland. The black hole can't just be uprooted and moved
What other realistic option was there? Really. Seriously. Oakland? Not based on how the city was dealing with them plus- we just had our first sell out... Ever? It isn't like the Oakland people have been packing it in and we just needed a new place to play.hate it
all true. still hate it.What other realistic option was there? Really. Seriously. Oakland? Not based on how the city was dealing with them plus- we just had our first sell out... Ever? It isn't like the Oakland people have been packing it in and we just needed a new place to play.
The league wanted nothing to do with us back in LA and if that meant playing tenant to that jerk off Rams owner then I wouldn't want that anyways.
SD? They couldn't get a deal done for the Chargers. How are we suppose to.
San Antonio? Why? Surely not better than LV.
Whatever other long shots like Sacramento (which would have even harder time than Oakland in selling seats).
This is by far the best option we have. And it makes us more competitive than being in Oakland ever could.
''Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future.'' - John F. Kennedyall true. still hate it.
yea yea yea....there are only 2 states of existence, growth or decay.''Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future.'' - John F. Kennedy
I think you are selling Mark short and this does not come across as if they used him as a pawn at all to me.So would Raider fans rather have the team stay in Oakland and play in the worst stadium in the NFL and watch Carr blossom into an elite QB with the Jets, Mack crush QBs with Dallas, Cooper catching TDs from Mariota? Struggle to get elite free agents? And pick in the top five every draft? Because that's what could happen if Davis doesn't start generating more revenue to pay for these huge contracts coming up. It's a shame they can't stay in Oakland where they belong but it wasn't possible with the current state of the economy. Davis is rich but he's not filthy, stinking rich like other owners who can foot the bill to build a stadium. The owners and Las Vegas gave Davis a great deal paving the way for the team to move. Big picture the NFL used Davis as a pawn, they want a presence in Vegas badly. Jones has business ventures in Vegas tied to the new stadium and all the other owners stand to make billions on the relocation. The NFL would love to use their shiny new stadium to host the Super Bowl in 2022, imagine the NFL Draft hosted in Vegas. It would be an extravaganza. A moneymaking ploy for the owners to keep lining their pockets. Blame Davis if you want, he's the perfect scapegoat. He's not a shrewd businessman. Shoot, if someone told me they were moving and I could make millions off of it, I'd drop everything and help them pack too. Judging by the 31-1 vote, it was a no-brainer. The NFL made their statement loud and clear. Screw the fans. It's all about the almighty dollar. And it's always been that way, just ask Cleveland and Baltimore.
Ok. He's a bishop or knight on the chessboard. I didn't really mean a pawn in a negative sense. He was smart enough to wait it out for the sweetest relocation deal in history. But in my mind that's where the NFL wants him and the Raiders. Let's face it, he's the new kid in the club. We all know if his father were still alive he would've sued everyone and their mother to get to LA and alienate himself like he did in the past. Mark is smart, he's playing nice with his fellow owners, something his father never did.I think you are selling Mark short and this does not come across as if they used him as a pawn at all to me.
My heart is with you.yea yea yea....there are only 2 states of existence, growth or decay.
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This is a great post. I have been a Raider fan for over 30 years and wish the Oakland Raiders could stay the Oakland Raiders but that is simply not possible any longer. LV seems like the best option since LA is already taken. It is time to embrace this move. Sure, it could be a failure but it could also be the best thing to happen to the team and the fans in years. My wife and I were talking about the Raiders move to LV last night and she already suggested that we go to Vegas for a long weekend and game! She has never suggested that we go to Oakland for a game.What other realistic option was there? Really. Seriously. Oakland? Not based on how the city was dealing with them plus- we just had our first sell out... Ever? It isn't like the Oakland people have been packing it in and we just needed a new place to play.
The league wanted nothing to do with us back in LA and if that meant playing tenant to that jerk off Rams owner then I wouldn't want that anyways.
SD? They couldn't get a deal done for the Chargers. How are we suppose to.
San Antonio? Why? Surely not better than LV.
Whatever other long shots like Sacramento (which would have even harder time than Oakland in selling seats).
This is by far the best option we have. And it makes us more competitive than being in Oakland ever could.
I agree, my wife and I have already talked about it too. My biggest concern is will they have a strong enough local fan base to create home field advantage? Will the Black Hole travel? LV being such a destination city, I see a lot of opposing fans feeling the same way as you and your wife. Let's go to Vegas the weekend the Steelers are playing the Raiders. Possibly diluting home field advantage. Hoping I'm wrong, but it's my biggest fear with this move.This is a great post. I have been a Raider fan for over 30 years and wish the Oakland Raiders could stay the Oakland Raiders but that is simply not possible any longer. LV seems like the best option since LA is already taken. It is time to embrace this move. Sure, it could be a failure but it could also be the best thing to happen to the team and the fans in years. My wife and I were talking about the Raiders move to LV last night and she already suggested that we go to Vegas for a long weekend and game! She has never suggested that we go to Oakland for a game.
Your concern is legit. Of course opposing teams are going to travel more to Vegas than they did to Oakland. However, Raider fans have proven for decades that they are die hards. The Raiders were bad to embarrassing for almost 15 years but most fans hung in there. Seems likely the Raider Nation will grow in LV and the CA fans will travel to see their team in a great facility at a fun city.I agree, my wife and I have already talked about it too. My biggest concern is will they have a strong enough local fan base to create home field advantage? Will the Black Hole travel? LV being such a destination city, I see a lot of opposing fans feeling the same way as you and your wife. Let's go to Vegas the weekend the Steelers are playing the Raiders. Possibly diluting home field advantage. Hoping I'm wrong, but it's my biggest fear with this move.
Just an addition. Not to say that Raiders fans outside of Oakland didn't stick with the team, but one of the allure the Raiders had for the city of Oakland is that like Oakland, they were perennial underdogs, and built a lot of pride out of being overlooked and underestimated. Like the team, Oakland has a historical blue-collar lunch-pail never say die ethic, and there is no question the spirit of the Raiders drew heavily from the spirit of Oakland.The Raiders were bad to embarrassing for almost 15 years but most fans in Oakland hung in there.
Oakland has no rights over Davis on "Raiders". The NFL knew it would put a team back in Cleveland the moment Modell moved.Is there any talk at all about the City of Oakland keeping the Raiders name and history, as the Browns did when Modell left Cleveland for Baltimore ?
I believe it was agreed before the move was even approved that the Browns name would remain with the new franchise.Oakland has no rights over Davis on "Raiders". The NFL knew it would put a team back in Cleveland the moment Modell moved.
oh well. he signed with Washington...this whole Zach Brown this is like watching paint dry...but he`s slowly going to the Raiders thru process of elimination it seems
The Palm Beach Post reports the Dolphins are doubtful to sign free agent LB Zach Brown.
It leaves the Raiders as his most likely landing spot. Brown has been holding out for more money, but it sounds like he's going to have to settle for a reduced deal.
)oh well. he signed with Washington...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/03/washington-agrees-to-deal-with-linebacker-zach-brown/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
who else is out there in free agency on defense that's worth a signing? Feels like we're going to do nothing else til after the draft. (based on no info, facts or data at all)
he`s on my list of hopefulsps. looking at lists of "best remaining free agents" and I seeing Jonathan Hankins DT on the list.
I know nothing about him. I know we have a definite need at DT so I'm wondering if I need to write another "Dear Reggie..." post to try to send positive vibes to get this guy signed.
1 year $4.5M, I would have loved some of that for us.joey said:oh well. he signed with Washington..
Here is a link to the interview. At the bottom of the page is the full audio interview.Anyone hear JT the Brick interview Mark Davis on 95.7 The Game?
I missed it and was wondering what the high points were.
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And I don't expect much to come from an interview with a broadcaster that the team employs talking to the owner of a team that needs to walk on egg shells as his team shuffles out of town in the next few year.
Anyone hear it and can report back?
thanks. topics and answers as expected.Here is a link to the interview. At the bottom of the page is the full audio interview.
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Oakland-Raiders-Owner-Mark-Davis-Talks-Relocation-Future-Of-The-Silver-And-Black/c45d68a9-fe56-4207-868d-8e4f7e0ca713
It sure does look that way. Pretty manageable outlay for an LB who could at least be a hole plugger/depth, and with good upside.joey said:oh well. he signed with Washington...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/03/washington-agrees-to-deal-with-linebacker-zach-brown/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
who else is out there in free agency on defense that's worth a signing? Feels like we're going to do nothing else til after the draft. (based on no info, facts or data at all)
Especially at these prices. I get that UFA frequently bust and/or aren't the answer. But 1 year at 4.5 is a pittance to see what the guy can do under our coaches.It sure does look that way. Pretty manageable outlay for an LB who could at least be a hole plugger/depth, and with good upside.
I get that Reggie has been successful with some draft picks over the last few years. What I don't get is why just rely on the draft to address areas of need.
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To paraphrase John Madden, if something doesn't make sense, follow the money. Maybe they are holding off spending money until they get Carr's contract done. They also have Jackson and Mack to get done next year. It is the only thing that makes sense to me at this point.Especially at these prices. I get that UFA frequently bust and/or aren't the answer. But 1 year at 4.5 is a pittance to see what the guy can do under our coaches.
Speaking of which, now that the move to LV is put to bed, not sure why the front office wouldn't just pull the trigger and pay Carr a Luck-type contract right now. Why wait?To paraphrase John Madden, if something doesn't make sense, follow the money. Maybe they are holding off spending money until they get Carr's contract done. They also have Jackson and Mack to get done next year. It is the only thing that makes sense to me at this point.
Perhaps. But we have over $32M in cap space, fifth most in the league, with a year still to manage that cap against Mack's contract in 2018.I think it came down to a question of Zach Brown or Gabe Jackson in Reggie's mind and he chose Gabe. I guess I can live with that, but we'll see how it goes.
When you mentioned Luck I got curious about his contract. What I found—Speaking of which, now that the move to LV is put to bed, not sure why the front office wouldn't just pull the trigger and pay Carr a Luck-type contract right now. Why wait?