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Yep. We have played a lot of bad teams and the defense has shut down the bad offenses they were supposed to. Earlier in the year they looked overwhelmed against good offenses such as DAL and TB, so I have no idea how good they really are.
Thats kind of how I feel about the entire team. Our schedule feels like it was the leagues best or the leagues worst each week we faced them. I’m fine with being the best of the lower half of the league in a rebuilding year. There’s been many more positives than negatives IMO and that’s all you can ask for.
Can’t catch a break on these draft picks.
Good points.
Yeah people don't think of the financial side. Also I'm thinking like the Eagles I believe would. Always dialed in on the cap. Fans get excited on what if we got 3 first rounders impact guys. Yeah thats great until we have to pay them all top 5 at their respective positions when they get off their rookie deals. This aint Madden where you can finagle a roster folks
You make some good points. I wasn’t against using all 3 but trading one may not be a bad idea for a better QB draft. Although I am warming up to Hurts we need to keep that option open.
not without continued growth. The (really) good ones generally don't need three years on the field to prove it.
I'm taking the Dak approach with him. Steady improvement every year and franchise tag him if you have to before committing the long term. If he doesn't, move on after the rookie contract.
I think it's a combo of somewhat earned along with no better (and reasonable) options are going to emerge before next season. He hasn't looked bad enough or like a lost cause that they clearly have to move on, but he hasn't put to bed any thoughts of upgrading if it were a realistic option, so they'll just run it back while he's still on the rookie contract and hope for the best (with the best being he makes a leap next year or better option does present itself.)
Agree with a large part of this. The main issue and issue I’d have is that he’s still a top 15’ish gimmick QB and we don’t have any other options when it’s time to redo his deal. That’s concerning but a bit down the road. I’m totally fine with him coming back next year while we add pieces and improve the cap.
Agree. It’s imperative that Howie turns one of this year’s #1 picks into a ‘23 QB lotto ticket.
Nahhhh, no one said Detroit. I think it was the Chargers/Jags as the top 2 (stud/potential stud qb's, keys to the city, warm cities, etc), Jets slightly above us for 3rd, and Lions at 5th.
Yes, a SF win eliminates NO (as would a NO loss if SF loses), leaving just SF and ARI/LAR (whichever doesn't win their division) as the only 2 other teams that can finish ahead of us for the 3 WC spots.
i highly suggest you take a look at the article i cited above from the The Athetic, with Hurts's description of that endone play with Goedert wide open.DJackson10 said:
That play is a perfect example of exactly what he is—a single read QB who is late a lot of times in getting the ball out.
Yea, I don't think there's any doubt he needs to get better at processing defenses and getting the ball out. Lots of young QB's struggle with that, so that will be the true test if he can make a case to be a long term starter or not. Hopefully another offseason, another year in the same system - and we'll see some improvement there. We might not! Some QB's never quite get it. But another year in the system, a reliable #2 WR - and who knows.
The Noid said:
We judge every player pretty much, he’s no exception. I don’t think it’s logical to withhold judgement or opinions for 5-6-7 years. We can discuss how he looks now and what we think he will be in the future. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
I feel that. Judgement within context is all I'm getting at - I guess in the realm of "he's not it, lets replace him" some guys take time, and then become legends. Westbrook and BG come to mind as guys if we had said "i've seen enough" after 16 games of starting experience. BG still playing...Earl Bennett looking for a team....
It's not insulting to you. You hated and have been bashing Hurts since day one. So no, no one believes you are honestly reviewing tape and basing your dislike him off it. We get it, you hate the guy. But we're not looking at you for honest evaluations of him, so don't be "insulted" by it.
Right. If Hurts at the end of next season shows the same passing game issues he does this year - I'll be far more critical - and yea, he'll probably need to be replaced. We see lots of QB's - many drafted far higher then Hurts - that never figured it out. They get the benefit of youth and inexperience to start, but we need to see that growth eventually.
here are Hurts' stats for the year:
He had a 102 QB rating against the Giants. Hurts, along with the rest of the team and coaching staff, has improved greatly from the start of the season. The drops, especially Goedert, are concerning.
same, and definitely a good point looking at the season as a whole. i remember DJackson pointing out how he wouldn't pass in the middle of the field, and he was right. luckily that only was for the first 2 games of the season (i believe) and he has become much better throughout the year.
For many of us, in Goedert we trust. He made a great catch in the same game with 2 drops. Hurts passer rating must be off the charts when targeting Goedert.
