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2022-2023 NBA Salary Cap Draft - First Annual Battle for the Wikkid Cup (2 Viewers)
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Desert_Power
Footballguy
Is he out for long?
Eephus
Footballguy
That extra $5-10M for the Supermax guys makes a big difference in team construction, especially in our hard-capped universe.
scoobus
Footballguy
I think they said only 1-2 weeks, but with his age and recent injury history, along with the cost, just not worth the risk.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
I gave it some serious thought but couldn’t make it work with my budget plans.
facook
Footballguy
Sorry, thought he was out of supply. Deleted, feel free to do the same.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Definitely, but he was looking top 8-10 in the NBA good those first few games and he was worth it at that level. Would have been fun to see him on a team like Trader Jake's with Jokic and a handful of elite 3-D guys.
Chemical X
Footballguy
11.4 - Tre Mann,
3,046,200
3,046,200
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
dawgtrails
Footballguy
I think I really struggled one year with this too, but Abe was definitely the worst
trader jake
Footballguy
When I landed the #3 pick, my 'draft board' was 1) Giannis, 2) Luka, and then I was torn between Tatum and Ja.
Tatum because good wings are gold and he has the best combination of offense and defense as well as upside vs proven track record. Ja because he's a freak, likely to take another step this season as long as he stays healthy, and his salary this season would make building around him a bit easier.
So I chose Jokic.
Mainly because I wanted the challenge of building around him. Plenty of good bigs could be had cheap, but that's out the door with him. As is building a switching defensive team. On offense, you'd be wise to avoid a ball dominant guard because you want the ball in Joker's hands a lot. You'll also need to invest a bit more on defensive players around him if you want to win votes at the end of the season.That was my thought process at the beginning, so I started looking at the best players to target. Immediately I listed Jrue, he was my very top choice and I considered him as my 2nd round pick. For all the obvious reasons, he's a perfect player to team with Jokic. However, his salary is high at ~$33 mil, so building a team around those two salaries was going to be tough.
It seemed like my best bet to make Jokic + (hopefully) Jrue work was to identify the best non-centers on cheap deals. I had Haliburton as my top choice in round 2 with Bane next. In rounds 3 & 4 I had Herb Jones penciled in with Seddiq Bey, Jaden McDaniels, Ayo Dosunmu, and Franz Wagner all on the short list. Instinctive snagged Haliburton and Herb Jones in front of me
but I was very, very pleased to get Bane.With Bane and Jokic on board I was already confident on the offensive side of the ball, especially the inside/outside dynamic. Bane's salary also made Jrue more realistic, especially after I landed Bey and McDaniels to fill forward rotation minutes. With Jrue's salary, I figured he'd drop a bit as cheaper options like Marcus Smart and/or [other PGs] were taken. If all those options went before I picked in round 5 I considered Damian Lillard, like Kev mentioned. In the end, I felt pairing Dame Time with Jokic and 3&D players would ultimately end with an almost guaranteed 2nd round exit. I felt that build just wouldn't have enough defense for voters to see anything else.
So, that's a lot of words.
I still have a few strategic hoopers to draft with almost $40 mil left, so we'll see how the draft finishes up. I'd be interested to hear what thought process others went through in the early rounds to put their squad together.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Filling out my roster / cap will be interesting at this point. Still have a few different approaches I can take.
Yo Mama selects:
11.08 - Aleksej Pokusevski, PF OKC - $3.261,480
Total Swiss Army knife of a player who should get all the minutes he can handle. Bit of a rough start to the season, but he’s been getting back to his normal weirdness lately.
Yo Mama selects:
11.08 - Aleksej Pokusevski, PF OKC - $3.261,480
Total Swiss Army knife of a player who should get all the minutes he can handle. Bit of a rough start to the season, but he’s been getting back to his normal weirdness lately.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Yo Mama
Footballguy
I was hoping to grab him this round. Darn.
trader jake
Footballguy
POKU!!!!! One of the most fascinating players in the NBA. Must watch, not always because he's good.
Jayrod
Footballguy
When I took Harden in the 1st round, I thought we were doing more of a fantasy basketball thing. Had I understood the format, I probably would have taken Curry instead. Either way, I learned a long time ago to not settle into a fixed strategy in drafts, but to evaluate each pick as it comes based on needs and what's available.
So, that's a lot of words.
Once I had Harden I was forced to build around a guy who can be an offensive juggernaut, but is high usage and a defensive liability. So my focus for the next two rounds was great defense with efficient offense. I feel like I nailed it with Adebayo & Bridges (I almost took Bridges with my 2nd round pick...have a huge man crush on his game and ability to effect winning in multiple ways).
At this point, I knew salary was becoming an issue, so I felt a need to get some value players and started combing over players around the $10-15M range but I was fairly locked into forming my starting 5 first and targeted a guard and PF. I also wasn't locked into looking at Offense or Defense, but merely some effective players within that price range. Guys I considered, but passed on over $$ were Jrue, Smart, AD & Mitchell. I found Jalen Green & Markkanen available at $9.4M & $16.5M respectively and they were both talented, but less expensive. Neither would be asked to be the #1 scorer/playmaker or lockdown defenders, but take advantage of scoring opportunities and bring something extra to the table. Green is an athletic freak (moves a bit like Ja, but with less skill) and Markkanen is a 7-footer with a high offensive skillset off to a great start this season.
After my starters were set, it became about filling in a bench that was cost effective. In my heart of hearts, I love defense so I was set on a defensive interior presence and found Claxton at a very reasonable salary. My next pick was a bit rushed after I was flustered when PJ Washington got sniped. Duarte was a knee-jerk reaction and probably my worst pick of the draft (but he did finally hit some shots last night and scored 30). Was super pleased when Jevon Carter made it back to me so I could have a lockdown defensive guard off the bench. After that I've just been trying to find guys that are getting a lot of playing time and have skills and upside for a good price.
My starting 5 is highly complementary and will be very tough to stop with 5 guys that can score in multiple ways while not completely abandoning defense behind Bam/Bridges. Happy with the offense/defense balance on the bench so far as well.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
Looked at him for a couple of rounds, but I don't think Thibs likes him for some reason. I feel like he should get more minutes than he does.
trader jake
Footballguy
Agree 100% on Bridges. He's a scout's dream in today's NBA and a great fit next to Harden. You nailed that backcourt combo. With Bam, you also set the team up to be able to switch on defense. Bam's offensive game isn't complemented being with Harden, but he'd figure it out.Once I had Harden I was forced to build around a guy who can be an offensive juggernaut, but is high usage and a defensive liability. So my focus for the next two rounds was great defense with efficient offense. I feel like I nailed it with Adebayo & Bridges (I almost took Bridges with my 2nd round pick...have a huge man crush on his game and ability to effect winning in multiple ways).
So, that's a lot of words.
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Was super pleased when Jevon Carter made it back to me so I could have a lockdown defensive guard off the bench.
Later I liked the Jevon Carter pick a lot as well. Great choice to land him behind those starting guards. He's worked a lot to improve his shot from 3 and he no longer hesitates to pull from deep. Thought the Nets letting him go last season was a big mistake. Going back to West Virginia, he's always been a bulldog on defense, and he still is.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Probably because he doesn't play defense, nor does he rebound or pass the ball. And he is a career 39% shooter. He is not a very good NBA player
Yo Mama
Footballguy
For my strategy, I started out with a “budget” where I laid out a salary level for each of the 15 roster spots. I had planned to get 2 players in the low $30’s, 2 in the low $20s, 2 around $10, 2 around $5-$6, and the rest in the $2 range.
From there I looked at the players in those groupings to identify my targets and see where I needed to reach earlier for certain players and where I could wait. It also helped me see how many $40, $30, and $20 players teams could afford overall to see where there will be talent left over.
I knew I was going to need a bunch of the super cheap guys, so I went for a few of them earlier in the draft to make sure I got some production out of those spots.
Basically, I’m a finance nerd who turned this into a budget exercise.
From there I looked at the players in those groupings to identify my targets and see where I needed to reach earlier for certain players and where I could wait. It also helped me see how many $40, $30, and $20 players teams could afford overall to see where there will be talent left over.
I knew I was going to need a bunch of the super cheap guys, so I went for a few of them earlier in the draft to make sure I got some production out of those spots.
Basically, I’m a finance nerd who turned this into a budget exercise.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He’s been playing well - I think he’ll get his minutes.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I watched him go bananas and score 22 off the bench in the opener against Memphis and helped to force OT. Since then he hasn't scored more than 7 pts in a game.
Instinctive
Footballguy
11.10 Jaden Hardy
Cheapest player with highest pedigree. 1st of five picks that have to be hella cheap and hopefully have some upside.
Cheapest player with highest pedigree. 1st of five picks that have to be hella cheap and hopefully have some upside.
Instinctive
Footballguy
dunfee555
Footballguy
My philosophy is that shooting and spacing are the backbones of a good NBA offense. Once I got Tatum, I really wanted to pair him with an elite shooter/shot creator to maximize his offensive abilities. Was targeting Garland in the 2nd as not only a perfect on-court pairing with Tatum but for getting an All-Star at a discount price. After that, I wanted to fill out the starting lineup with shooters and defenders. Anunoby and Turner fill those needs nicely as great defenders that are more than respectable shooters for their positions. For the last starting spot, I thought about a lot of different options but ended up settling on Collins as a great 3rd option on offense who can both finish as a roller and shoot as a spacer to give that lineup a bit more athletic pop and optionality. Then it was just targeting good players on value contracts that can fill specific roles (Vassell as 6th man scorer, Morris as 2nd unit creator/shooter, etc.).
Overall, I think the starting 5 has a great balance and a ton of options on offense without completely compromising the defense. And the bench provides a lot of pieces to play different styles as needed.
Overall, I think the starting 5 has a great balance and a ton of options on offense without completely compromising the defense. And the bench provides a lot of pieces to play different styles as needed.
dunfee555
Footballguy
11.11 - Aaron Holiday, PG, ATL
3rd PG that can be called on when needed to keep the offense organized and hit open shots when necessary. And he's crazy cheap.
@dawgtrails is on the clock.
3rd PG that can be called on when needed to keep the offense organized and hit open shots when necessary. And he's crazy cheap.
@dawgtrails is on the clock.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
11.12 Sam Hauser, 1,637,966
Deadly catch and shoot three point shooter and has proven to not be a liability on defense (so far). I expect more 20 minute games from him going forward and to provide some crazy spacing
Deadly catch and shoot three point shooter and has proven to not be a liability on defense (so far). I expect more 20 minute games from him going forward and to provide some crazy spacing
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Instinctive
Footballguy
For the record I didn't need one, and still don't, but it's not often you can get a top 3 recruit who fell...I'm basically taking the same philosophy Dallas did lol
Jayrod
Footballguy
He's getting a LOT more play this season for Boston off the bench. Was on my list of guys for my next 2 picks.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
My strategy was simple. Superstars win championships so get the best superstars available and surround them with (for the most part) shooters and veteran role players.
If Kawhi returns to form, I could have two top five players with him and Durant. That would give me a good shot to be the best team come playoff time. Hooray! If he doesn’t? Oh well, I lose this contest.
If Kawhi returns to form, I could have two top five players with him and Durant. That would give me a good shot to be the best team come playoff time. Hooray! If he doesn’t? Oh well, I lose this contest.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
trader jake
Footballguy
11.13 Christian Koloko TOR $1,500,000
Active rookie from Arizona that is best used on offense as a rim roller. Physically, he reminds me of [redacted NBA C
]. The real intrigue comes on defense though.
Koloko's a good NBA defender already (he won Pac12 DPOTY), including his timing to deter and block shots. He also has the ability to move his feet on the perimeter against most players. If he puts it together, that's a dangerous combo. I had him outside the lottery on my draft board, only because he's a 5. Incredible value by Toronto to land him at 33 overall.
Active rookie from Arizona that is best used on offense as a rim roller. Physically, he reminds me of [redacted NBA C
]. The real intrigue comes on defense though.Koloko's a good NBA defender already (he won Pac12 DPOTY), including his timing to deter and block shots. He also has the ability to move his feet on the perimeter against most players. If he puts it together, that's a dangerous combo. I had him outside the lottery on my draft board, only because he's a 5. Incredible value by Toronto to land him at 33 overall.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
My strategy was not to grab superstars, but that was what left to me. Once that happened, it became to target players that could specialize in complementary attributes like shootings, spacing, or defense. This creates some fluidity of lineups/minutes depending on the matchup. It seems to be the strategy teams built around superstars like Lebron and Steph have had success with.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
grit = minuscule salary?
Kev4029
Footballguy
11.15 - Tyrese Martin - Position? - $1,017,781
12.01 - Max Christie - Position? - $1,017,781
I literally know nothing about either of these guys - they'll spend some time with the Kev G-League team and provide me the ability to draft a real NBA player in the next three rounds.
12.01 - Max Christie - Position? - $1,017,781
I literally know nothing about either of these guys - they'll spend some time with the Kev G-League team and provide me the ability to draft a real NBA player in the next three rounds.
Instinctive
Footballguy
If you're just randomly picking you should take someone other than Christie from that salary bracket.
Just a suggestion. Christie should go like 5 picks later.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Jealous that my 12th round pick has a 49.5 PER, 1.330 TS%, 0.740 WS/48? The best per minute player in the history of the NBA at this point.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Hahaha
He's the wing of the crew (others are guards or bigs) and was the highest drafted lol. I figured I'd take a stab at whichever one had the most draft capital. Oh well.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
scoobus
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