2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (2 Viewers)

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Pair Lillard with a declining perennial losing big man due $50-60+ million/yr for 4 years beyond this one.

Brilliant.

 

[trader jake]

Add in their rebounding prowess (which was quietly a major factor last night)

Rebounds through 3 quarters:
Lakers 20
Jokic 19

Jokic reminds me of Bird a bit.

Yup. Jokic's vision is ridiculous and his willingness to pass keeps everyone else moving and happy on offense. Entertaining style of play driven primarily by how damn high his basketball IQ is. This also helps with rebounding quite a bit, just seems to be in the right spot vs out jumping people for the ball. Very reminiscent of Larry Legend. Unless Jokic gets injured falling off a horse (or shoveling rocks to make his mother a driveway) he should have a longer career than Bird though.

harden declining his option. thank you lord

Step 1. You cut a hole in a box.

 

[msudaisy26]

Wembanyama is minus 20000 to be the first overall pick. I feel like those odds should be worse. Anyone got a couple million I can borrow for 2 months?

I heard that on a podcast on my way to the office today and though the same thing.

There's always a chance he finds out he needs back surgery or something.

Heard on the radio that one anonymous GM said that Wembanyama could have a season ending injury tomorrow and he would still be the number 1 pick.

 

[Desert_Power]

Not enough soccer league talk imo.

Noted. I'll make sure to make my Champions League semifinal observations in here tomorrow to encourage diversity.

Good win for City today and less flopping than many NBA playoff games.

 

[msudaisy26]

Big trade here:

Timberwolves send out KAT. Get back John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Jonathan Kuminga, and the #3 pick

Blazers send out the #3, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, and get back Ty Jerome and KAT and a 1st from Golden State.

Hawks send out John Collins and get Nurkic, Jordan Poole, and Patrick Baldwin.

Warriors send out a 1st, Kuminga, Iguodala, Poole, Jerome, and Baldwin and get Anfernee Simons.

I am desperate for the Pistons to be the T-Wolves and I wouldn't trade pick 5 and salary filler for KAT.

 

[SWC]

big trade here the bucks send jimmy hamslam our crapass owner and get back steph curry and jokic and also durantula and you are probably asking how a four way trade happens with the bucks getting everyone good for a sack of crap and where does the sack of crap even wind up who knows the important question is who says no take that to the bank brohans

 

[The Z Machine]

Not enough soccer league talk imo.

Noted. I'll make sure to make my Champions League semifinal observations in here tomorrow to encourage diversity.

Good win for City today and less flopping than many NBA playoff games.

Both those clubs can suck it.

 

[Frostillicus]

Tough crowd.

 

[Yo Mama]

Tough crowd.

I mean, you did include a guy who just announced his retirement (Iggy) in your trade.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Good win for City today and less flopping than many NBA playoff games.

Speaking of flopping, I recently watched a video with Kerr complaining about the Lakers flopping (yes, I know ironic) and he went on to say that flopping has been virtually eliminated in international basketball by FIBA. Some rule that if you flop (either on offense or defense), you get a technical foul.

Does anyone know if this really works? I don't watch any international basketball.

Even though the NBA has been really slow to fix this problem, I think they will eventually do something that will help, which is more than I can say for FIFA who does not seem to care.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Good win for City today and less flopping than many NBA playoff games.

Speaking of flopping, I recently watched a video with Kerr complaining about the Lakers flopping (yes, I know ironic) and he went on to say that flopping has been virtually eliminated in international basketball by FIBA. Some rule that if you flop (either on offense or defense), you get a technical foul.

Does anyone know if this really works? I don't watch any international basketball.

Even though the NBA has been really slow to fix this problem, I think they will eventually do something that will help, which is more than I can say for FIFA who does not seem to care.

Can't see how it wouldn't work.

Love that idea. But refs really gotta be sure before they start throwing T's around. Like really egregious ones, like the Schroder one in the 4th Q last night, that would be an easy T. Half of Smart's one's where he gets blown back 15 feet across the floor. Things like that.

ETA: Any successful replay challenge of a flop, team gets TO & challenge back, flopping team gets tech. Really simple things.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Jokic, Embiid, Curry, Giannis, Tatum .... they are all awesome players. I think the MVP winner comes down to who the voters/media think fits the best narrative as long as their team had a very good record. It's entertainment. The narrative is more important than the facts. And frankly, who cares except those 5 guys.

 

[the moops]

Big trade here:

Timberwolves send out KAT. Get back John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Jonathan Kuminga, and the #3 pick

Blazers send out the #3, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, and get back Ty Jerome and KAT and a 1st from Golden State.

Hawks send out John Collins and get Nurkic, Jordan Poole, and Patrick Baldwin.

Warriors send out a 1st, Kuminga, Iguodala, Poole, Jerome, and Baldwin and get Anfernee Simons.

Terrible

You dislike everything. Grumpy Grumperton.

I like your mom

 

[the moops]

I wouldn't trade pick 5 and salary filler for KAT.

You would make a terrible GM

 

[General Malaise]

Big trade here:

Timberwolves send out KAT. Get back John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Jonathan Kuminga, and the #3 pick

Blazers send out the #3, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, and get back Ty Jerome and KAT and a 1st from Golden State.

Hawks send out John Collins and get Nurkic, Jordan Poole, and Patrick Baldwin.

Warriors send out a 1st, Kuminga, Iguodala, Poole, Jerome, and Baldwin and get Anfernee Simons.

Why would Portland do this?

Throw in Omar Asik and who says no????

 

[msudaisy26]

I wouldn't trade pick 5 and salary filler for KAT.

You would make a terrible GM

So I would fit in with half the league.

 

[General Malaise]

So far I've seen reports that Portland (3), Houston (4), Indiana (7), and Dallas (10) are interested in moving their picks for vets who can immediately improve the team. That's a lot of discontent in a draft that's supposed to be relatively good. Also, I think it's probably a bad idea for all of those teams except Dallas.

Portland should have gotten rid of Lillard. Since they didn’t and even signed him to an extension (he might not even be movable now), they can’t play the slow rebuild game.

I recall that the Pacers are anti-tanking on principle (they just often accidentally suck).

If the Rockets are truly interested in Harden, I guess it makes sense to try to win now.

I agree that this is probably what all these teams are thinking -- IMO it's just ill advised.

Portland is more than 1 quality vet away from being a competitor. I understand that they want to reward Dame for being loyal, but at a certain point I think you have to put the team first and not sacrifice your future for another first round playoff exit. Sharpe, Simons, and Miller(?) could be a nice young core to take the reins once Lillard rides into the sunset. (I also think Dame is very much tradable -- Durant has a similar contract situation and was just dealt for a massive haul. Lillard isn't quite at KD's level, but is also younger.)

The Portland Problem is compounded by the fact that there really isn't any leadership. When Paul Allen owned the team, his fingerprints were all over it - not always for the best (more often than not he got in the way of his GMs) but the dude CARED. He loved the Blazers and the NBA. And he wanted to win. He sat courtside (usually with a highly paid escort who signed an iron clad NDA), would wolf down a Stanich Burger (one of the best in town) at half time and watch his team. Even when he was sick, he wanted to be there. That matters - A LOT.

Now? We have no clue who runs this team. His sister (a much bigger creep than her brother, and that's saying a lot) is nonexistent. The "Vulcan Group" is a nebulous, opaque organization without a figurehead. The current GM may or may not be any good at his job, jury is still out, but there's not doubt in my mind he plays the game scared. Who does he report to? Is his job secure? What does his boss want him to do? Is the team for sale?

So, there's myriad more problems with Portland than merely "What do we do with Dame?". There's also the not-so-little issue about what to do with Jerami Grant. This was Dame's handpicked player to come to Portland and help him win. It was fun, for about 12 games and then it wasn't.

What do you do with Nurk? You gave him a whole lot of money to be a petulant turd who quits when his feelings get hurt and they get hurt more often than my 10 year old daughter's. He'd make a great Italian soccer player with all his whiney antics and flopping but he's too stiff to kick a soccer ball.

The fan base is apathetic. I got an email from the Blazers last week asking me if we would be interested in renewing season tickets (we cancelled after COVID) and I simply replied back with "lol".

The best thing this team can do now (and should have done 2 years ago) is trade Dame and try to rebuild. It won't be popular but right now, neither is the team. Rip the band-aid off now, let Sharpe and {fill in the blank} cut their teeth, suck for a couple of years and hope that the future is brighter under a new ownership regime.

You live in Portland?

Huh, never would have guessed.

It's where I got my big break as a junior high basketball ref.

 

[FatMax]

Good win for City today and less flopping than many NBA playoff games.

Speaking of flopping, I recently watched a video with Kerr complaining about the Lakers flopping (yes, I know ironic) and he went on to say that flopping has been virtually eliminated in international basketball by FIBA. Some rule that if you flop (either on offense or defense), you get a technical foul.

Does anyone know if this really works? I don't watch any international basketball.

Even though the NBA has been really slow to fix this problem, I think they will eventually do something that will help, which is more than I can say for FIFA who does not seem to care.

Can't see how it wouldn't work.

Love that idea. But refs really gotta be sure before they start throwing T's around. Like really egregious ones, like the Schroder one in the 4th Q last night, that would be an easy T. Half of Smart's one's where he gets blown back 15 feet across the floor. Things like that.

ETA: Any successful replay challenge of a flop, team gets TO & challenge back, flopping team gets tech. Really simple things.

It would be an adjustment for Embiid.

Joel Embiid with the most blatant flop against Royce O'Neale || R1 Game 3

www.youtube.com

 

[Frostillicus]

Tough crowd.

I mean, you did include a guy who just announced his retirement (Iggy) in your trade.

Just for salary purposes!

 

[General Malaise]

Blazers send Orlando #3 + Anf Simons + Nurk and maybe some legal weed for the poor workers at Disney World

Orlando gives Portland Wendall Carter Jr.

Orlando sends #6 & #11 plus a month of sunshine to Brooklynne Nets

Nets send Mikal Bridges, Royce Oneal, and 6 years of carbon offsets to Portland.

Now we're cooking with grease!!!!

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Jokic, Embiid, Curry, Giannis, Tatum .... they are all awesome players. I think the MVP winner comes down to who the voters/media think fits the best narrative as long as their team had a very good record. It's entertainment. The narrative is more important than the facts. And frankly, who cares except those 5 guys.

Posters on internet message boards care.

 

[identikit]

Sooooooo happy TNT has the game tonight

 

[Capella]

Big trade here:

Timberwolves send out KAT. Get back John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Jonathan Kuminga, and the #3 pick

Blazers send out the #3, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, and get back Ty Jerome and KAT and a 1st from Golden State.

Hawks send out John Collins and get Nurkic, Jordan Poole, and Patrick Baldwin.

Warriors send out a 1st, Kuminga, Iguodala, Poole, Jerome, and Baldwin and get Anfernee Simons.

I am desperate for the Pistons to be the T-Wolves and I wouldn't trade pick 5 and salary filler for KAT.

What?????? The odds of pick 5 being better than KAT have to be like 5% at best.

 

[Capella]

Jokic, Embiid, Curry, Giannis, Tatum .... they are all awesome players. I think the MVP winner comes down to who the voters/media think fits the best narrative as long as their team had a very good record. It's entertainment. The narrative is more important than the facts. And frankly, who cares except those 5 guys.

Posters on internet message boards care.

The real heroes

 

[Capella]

Blazers send Orlando #3 + Anf Simons + Nurk and maybe some legal weed for the poor workers at Disney World

Orlando gives Portland Wendall Carter Jr.

Orlando sends #6 & #11 plus a month of sunshine to Brooklynne Nets

Nets send Mikal Bridges, Royce Oneal, and 6 years of carbon offsets to Portland.

Now we're cooking with grease!!!!

I like this but there is a LOT of weed in Florida already.


I saw one today where Orlando gets #3, Portland gets Brooklyn Bridges and Nets get 6, 11, Denver’s first next year that Orlando holds and some seconds. I like that one a lot for all teams.

 

[msudaisy26]

Big trade here:

Timberwolves send out KAT. Get back John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Jonathan Kuminga, and the #3 pick

Blazers send out the #3, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, and get back Ty Jerome and KAT and a 1st from Golden State.

Hawks send out John Collins and get Nurkic, Jordan Poole, and Patrick Baldwin.

Warriors send out a 1st, Kuminga, Iguodala, Poole, Jerome, and Baldwin and get Anfernee Simons.

I am desperate for the Pistons to be the T-Wolves and I wouldn't trade pick 5 and salary filler for KAT.

What?????? The odds of pick 5 being better than KAT have to be like 5% at best.

Money and being trapped in purgatory.

 

[Capella]

Big trade here:

Timberwolves send out KAT. Get back John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Jonathan Kuminga, and the #3 pick

Blazers send out the #3, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, and get back Ty Jerome and KAT and a 1st from Golden State.

Hawks send out John Collins and get Nurkic, Jordan Poole, and Patrick Baldwin.

Warriors send out a 1st, Kuminga, Iguodala, Poole, Jerome, and Baldwin and get Anfernee Simons.

I am desperate for the Pistons to be the T-Wolves and I wouldn't trade pick 5 and salary filler for KAT.

What?????? The odds of pick 5 being better than KAT have to be like 5% at best.

Money and being trapped in purgatory.

What is Detroit in now?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I've tried to be humble with the Heat, they likely are going to get rolled in the ECF

But yet...they did get to a Game 7 last year, within a bucket or two

Still the Heat as an 8-seed, no chance, let's go with that

 

[msudaisy26]

So much for that 95 - 88 game I picked.

 

[msudaisy26]

Big trade here:

Timberwolves send out KAT. Get back John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Jonathan Kuminga, and the #3 pick

Blazers send out the #3, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, and get back Ty Jerome and KAT and a 1st from Golden State.

Hawks send out John Collins and get Nurkic, Jordan Poole, and Patrick Baldwin.

Warriors send out a 1st, Kuminga, Iguodala, Poole, Jerome, and Baldwin and get Anfernee Simons.

I am desperate for the Pistons to be the T-Wolves and I wouldn't trade pick 5 and salary filler for KAT.

What?????? The odds of pick 5 being better than KAT have to be like 5% at best.

Money and being trapped in purgatory.

What is Detroit in now?

Not much, but we aren't happy just making the playoffs and winning a few series. We want to win.

 

[msudaisy26]

I've tried to be humble with the Heat, they likely are going to get rolled in the ECF

But yet...they did get to a Game 7 last year, within a bucket or two

Still the Heat as an 8-seed, no chance, let's go with that

Obviously you aren't watching the game right now.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Williams surrounded by 3 Heat players (and a 4th on the floor) and getting the offensive board + and 1 was quite a sight.

 

[msudaisy26]

Williams surrounded by 3 Heat players (and a 4th on the floor) and getting the offensive board + and 1 was quite a sight.

It was kind of funny watching Bam slap at his ankles.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I've tried to be humble with the Heat, they likely are going to get rolled in the ECF

But yet...they did get to a Game 7 last year, within a bucket or two

Still the Heat as an 8-seed, no chance, let's go with that

Obviously you aren't watching the game right now.

Oh...I love it
I have a "Half Life"....woops that's not right
"Other Half" Forever and Ever and Ever and Ever...oh i'm watching my friend and I like what I see so far but i also know Boston is just a little bit better than the Heat
Go Heat!

 

[msudaisy26]

Big trade here:

Timberwolves send out KAT. Get back John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Jonathan Kuminga, and the #3 pick

Blazers send out the #3, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, and get back Ty Jerome and KAT and a 1st from Golden State.

Hawks send out John Collins and get Nurkic, Jordan Poole, and Patrick Baldwin.

Warriors send out a 1st, Kuminga, Iguodala, Poole, Jerome, and Baldwin and get Anfernee Simons.

I am desperate for the Pistons to be the T-Wolves and I wouldn't trade pick 5 and salary filler for KAT.

What?????? The odds of pick 5 being better than KAT have to be like 5% at best.

Money and being trapped in purgatory.

What is Detroit in now?

Let me clarify it a little. The Pistons aren't in a position to make this gamble. If it was an established team that thought they could fix the issues KAT has and make him better like the Warriors did Wiggins then that is different. The Pistons need a veteran leader to teach the young guys how to win. KAT isn't that.

 

[Capella]

Big trade here:

Timberwolves send out KAT. Get back John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Jonathan Kuminga, and the #3 pick

Blazers send out the #3, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, and get back Ty Jerome and KAT and a 1st from Golden State.

Hawks send out John Collins and get Nurkic, Jordan Poole, and Patrick Baldwin.

Warriors send out a 1st, Kuminga, Iguodala, Poole, Jerome, and Baldwin and get Anfernee Simons.

I am desperate for the Pistons to be the T-Wolves and I wouldn't trade pick 5 and salary filler for KAT.

What?????? The odds of pick 5 being better than KAT have to be like 5% at best.

Money and being trapped in purgatory.

What is Detroit in now?

Not much, but we aren't happy just making the playoffs and winning a few series. We want to win.

KAT and Cade and Ivey get you closer to that then one of those twins who were just playing against high school kids.

 

[dickey moe]

Lol Horford

 

[Capella]

Not that the Wolves are giving KAT up for the 5th pick in the draft so whatever.

 

[Frostillicus]

Not that the Wolves are giving KAT up for the 5th pick in the draft so whatever.

Not so fast.

 

[Mister CIA]

Yesterday was a good day:

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[identikit]

I see No TO Joe is at it again

 

[Instinctive]

Okay, seriously, I keep hearing that the league "fixes" the lottery. Is there any actual credible basis to suggest the league would do something this extreme?

I ask for two reasons. First, I took a sports law class in law school taught by a prominent lawyer and part owner of a franchise. He was absolutely adamant that **** like this doesn't happen (other than like a rogue player or ref fixing games) and, obviously, the primary rule in sports law is that in professional sports there must be an uncertain outcome. This dovetails into the second reason which is that I can't imagine it would even be rational to "fix" something as big as the lottery because the league makes millions to billions and it just seems absolutely nonsensical to risk that revenue with putting the league's reputation in jeopardy.

I worked in the drawing in one of our professional sports leagues as part of the duties of our office and it is decidedly not fixed. It's idiotic to think it is. So much goes into the fairness and unknown nature. It's just a funny joke at this point.

 

[msudaisy26]

It doesn't even feel like Tatum is even playing this quarter.

 

[msudaisy26]

I see No TO Joe is at it again

?

 

[identikit]

I see No TO Joe is at it again

?

Coach Joe finally used a TO

He normally takes them home with him

 

[Ministry of Pain]

That last Kevin Love bucket on the interception was funny

 

[msudaisy26]

I see No TO Joe is at it again

?

Coach Joe finally used a TO

He normally takes them home with him

I see. He looked pretty pissed during that timeout.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Heat down 9 at the Half...
Up 6 in less than 8 minutes into the 2nd Half

15-pt swing in 8 minutes, that could possibly be important as the Series progresses
Or the Heat could get blown out in less than 5, we'll see

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Tatum already on his way to 30+ tonight, that cannot be good for the Heat

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The Heat will need Jimmy Buckets to take over in the 4th
Last several games he has been pretty quiet and trying to get everyone involved around him
All good but sometimes he needs to be a ball hog and the 4th Q tonight might be a great time to do so.