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2023-2024 NBA Salary Cap Draft - SECOND Annual Battle for the Wikkid Cup - Preseason Rankings are In! (1 Viewer)
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Yo Mama
Footballguy
I have thecatch’s pick when Corp repicks.
FYI - I’ll be out of pocket tonight. I (still) help run our youth basketball league and we’re having a bunch of drafts tonight. I tried to introduce a salary cap or even a 3RR, but I don’t think the coaches could handle it.
I’ll try to peak in to see when my son is up and might give a list to someone as we get closer.
FYI - I’ll be out of pocket tonight. I (still) help run our youth basketball league and we’re having a bunch of drafts tonight. I tried to introduce a salary cap or even a 3RR, but I don’t think the coaches could handle it.
I’ll try to peak in to see when my son is up and might give a list to someone as we get closer.
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Angry Bovine
Sorry I’m driving and can’t look. Hate picking someone already gone. Sorry about that. Will probably be 1.5 hours before I’m home
Yo Mama
Footballguy
scoobus
Footballguy
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Bryce Mcgowens G $1,719,864
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Angry Bovine
Sorry for the holdup, I thought my list was up to date. I just took Watford because a friend of mine coached him in high school. He was easily the most talented high school player I’ve seen other than Robert Horry. He’s a nice kid who was productive in college, hard working so maybe he gets so minutes in Brooklyn.
Kev4029
Footballguy
15.16 Boban Marjanovic Giant
$2,891,467
Same idea as DeAndre Jordan. Teammates love him, he brings good vibes, crowd favorite, movie star - lots of intangibles that have an effect on the court without him having to actually play. Plus, him and Doncic get along and speak the same language. On the court, he is a truly statuesque defender, but he may occasionally get on the court for critical end of game free throw rebounding (he's a very good FT shooter, so if he gets fouled while getting a rebound, that's fine) and short clock inbound defense. Otherwise, he's just my adorable little human victory cigar. Plus his wife is a babe.
@Eephus
$2,891,467
Same idea as DeAndre Jordan. Teammates love him, he brings good vibes, crowd favorite, movie star - lots of intangibles that have an effect on the court without him having to actually play. Plus, him and Doncic get along and speak the same language. On the court, he is a truly statuesque defender, but he may occasionally get on the court for critical end of game free throw rebounding (he's a very good FT shooter, so if he gets fouled while getting a rebound, that's fine) and short clock inbound defense. Otherwise, he's just my adorable little human victory cigar. Plus his wife is a babe.
@Eephus
msudaisy26
Footballguy
As a Piston fan I can tell you the improvement part is never going to happen.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Nor does he have all-around skills.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
He has all-around skills. The problem is they aren't all basketball related.
PIK95
Footballguy
I wanted him a few rounds back as a defender but my son banned me from picking him. Something about memes and tic tocs declaring him the worst player in the NBA. Nice puck.
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FatMax
Member
The only thing he'll be remembered for is punching Mo Wagner. At least for me. Not that Wagner didn't have it coming
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Left a little more on the table than ideal, but the Hornets are very shallow in the back court. Rozier is already hurt. Can see him having a big role.
the moops
Footballguy
23 days well spent?We did it!
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Better than focusing on work23 days well spent?We did it!
PIK95
Footballguy
:ewokhugparty:We did it!
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Great job everyone - thanks for the fun draft!
Here’s what I’m thinking for next steps:
If you choose to, please post your rosters and any writeups you want to make regarding how all your players can shoot and play defense at all-star levels by Tuesday 11/14.
Then everyone send me how you rank the teams 1-19 (19 being best) - don’t rank your own teams by Sunday 11/19. I’ll consolidate and release the results the following week.
I’ll also set up the teams on Fantrax to track fantasy stats for the year. If you didn’t play last year, please PM me your email address so I can include you on the site.
Here’s what I’m thinking for next steps:
If you choose to, please post your rosters and any writeups you want to make regarding how all your players can shoot and play defense at all-star levels by Tuesday 11/14.
Then everyone send me how you rank the teams 1-19 (19 being best) - don’t rank your own teams by Sunday 11/19. I’ll consolidate and release the results the following week.
I’ll also set up the teams on Fantrax to track fantasy stats for the year. If you didn’t play last year, please PM me your email address so I can include you on the site.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I can't wait to rip @the moops team to shreds in my review.
PG: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Delon Wright, Scoot Henderson
SG: Bennedict Mathurin, Malik Monk
SF: Keegan Murray, De'Andre Hunter, AJ Griffin, Chris Duarte
PF: Julius Randle (on a short leash), Trey Lyles, Danilo Gallinari
C: Chet Holmgren, Naz Reid, Andre Drummond
I made the questionable decision to not splurge on two mega-salaried stars, which I have some regrets about. But the flip side is that this team is deep. The theory is that we'll always have a playmaking guard on the floor surrounded by shooting all over the place. When Shai comes off the floor, Malik (an elite 6th man) will be the primary creator, and there's hope that Scoot will develop into that role as well as the season progresses. In addition to the ballhandlers, Wright, Murray, Hunter, Griffin, Lyles, Holmgren, and Reid can all shoot (Gallo too as long as he remains healthy but I'm hoping not to rely on my 15th man for much). Mathurin gives us some athleticism in the backcourt, a guy who is great at attacking the basket and hopefully will continue to develop as a defender in his second year. Randle has been a total, complete trainwreck this year, but if he gets back to where he's been for most of the past couple of years, he's another shot creator and rebounder, and someone you can't totally ignore away from the basket (again, this year notwithstanding). Hunter is an expensive backup but gives this team uncommon wing depth.
This team lacks interior defense against the handful of powerful centers remaining in the league that can score at the basket, but those guys are going to have a hard time at the other end. Holmgren and Reid will both pull centers away from the rim, and I have the option of going small with Lyles there and Murray and Hunter at 4. Chet gives me some rim protection. Rebounding will also be a problem for this team, but if I'm getting murdered there for stretches, I can grab Drummond off the bench for spot minutes.
Not the best team in this exercise (and certainly suffers from the fact that a few of these guys have been awful to start the year) but far from the worst, I think.
SG: Bennedict Mathurin, Malik Monk
SF: Keegan Murray, De'Andre Hunter, AJ Griffin, Chris Duarte
PF: Julius Randle (on a short leash), Trey Lyles, Danilo Gallinari
C: Chet Holmgren, Naz Reid, Andre Drummond
I made the questionable decision to not splurge on two mega-salaried stars, which I have some regrets about. But the flip side is that this team is deep. The theory is that we'll always have a playmaking guard on the floor surrounded by shooting all over the place. When Shai comes off the floor, Malik (an elite 6th man) will be the primary creator, and there's hope that Scoot will develop into that role as well as the season progresses. In addition to the ballhandlers, Wright, Murray, Hunter, Griffin, Lyles, Holmgren, and Reid can all shoot (Gallo too as long as he remains healthy but I'm hoping not to rely on my 15th man for much). Mathurin gives us some athleticism in the backcourt, a guy who is great at attacking the basket and hopefully will continue to develop as a defender in his second year. Randle has been a total, complete trainwreck this year, but if he gets back to where he's been for most of the past couple of years, he's another shot creator and rebounder, and someone you can't totally ignore away from the basket (again, this year notwithstanding). Hunter is an expensive backup but gives this team uncommon wing depth.
This team lacks interior defense against the handful of powerful centers remaining in the league that can score at the basket, but those guys are going to have a hard time at the other end. Holmgren and Reid will both pull centers away from the rim, and I have the option of going small with Lyles there and Murray and Hunter at 4. Chet gives me some rim protection. Rebounding will also be a problem for this team, but if I'm getting murdered there for stretches, I can grab Drummond off the bench for spot minutes.
Not the best team in this exercise (and certainly suffers from the fact that a few of these guys have been awful to start the year) but far from the worst, I think.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Team Frosty:
PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Devin Booker
SF: Josh Okogie
PF: Kyle Anderson
C: Bam Adabayo
Elite level defense with two DPOY candidates, two plus defenders in Okogie and Anderson, and Booker who is just fine. Booker will be our offensive anchor, obviously, but with Holiday and Bam we have a couple other good scoring options, Kyle and Okogie can shoot well enough to keep defenses honest.
SF/SG Shaedon Sharpe
PF Jeremy Sochan
PG T.J. McConnell
F Jae'Sean Tate
C Drew Eubanks
This is basically the second five, although Sharpe is the most important by far. If I ever need more offense he can jump in with the starters and slide Okogie or Anderson to the bench. Sochan is another plus defender and if this whole PG experiment works out he can be another shot createor - if not that's why I have McConnell. Tate and Eubanks are just solid bench pieces that can do a little bit of everything and don't hurt you out there.
G Keyonte George
G Shake Milton
F Taurean Prince
PF/C Zeke Nnaji
G Matisse Thybulle
Everone in this third group can play. If there are any injuries to the main rotation all of these guys can step in and fill the empty spot. All of them are in their team's rotation with Prince and Thybulle starting for their teams. Thybulle gives me a nice defensive weapon I can roll out if I need to shut down a hot scorer, Milton and Prince are solid vets, and George and Nnaji are intriguing young guys with upside who could look like even better picks by the end of the year.
Projection: 69-13
PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Devin Booker
SF: Josh Okogie
PF: Kyle Anderson
C: Bam Adabayo
Elite level defense with two DPOY candidates, two plus defenders in Okogie and Anderson, and Booker who is just fine. Booker will be our offensive anchor, obviously, but with Holiday and Bam we have a couple other good scoring options, Kyle and Okogie can shoot well enough to keep defenses honest.
SF/SG Shaedon Sharpe
PF Jeremy Sochan
PG T.J. McConnell
F Jae'Sean Tate
C Drew Eubanks
This is basically the second five, although Sharpe is the most important by far. If I ever need more offense he can jump in with the starters and slide Okogie or Anderson to the bench. Sochan is another plus defender and if this whole PG experiment works out he can be another shot createor - if not that's why I have McConnell. Tate and Eubanks are just solid bench pieces that can do a little bit of everything and don't hurt you out there.
G Keyonte George
G Shake Milton
F Taurean Prince
PF/C Zeke Nnaji
G Matisse Thybulle
Everone in this third group can play. If there are any injuries to the main rotation all of these guys can step in and fill the empty spot. All of them are in their team's rotation with Prince and Thybulle starting for their teams. Thybulle gives me a nice defensive weapon I can roll out if I need to shut down a hot scorer, Milton and Prince are solid vets, and George and Nnaji are intriguing young guys with upside who could look like even better picks by the end of the year.
Projection: 69-13
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Here’s the “best” team I could come up with under the cap with undrafted players.
| Zach LaVine | CHI | G/F | 40,064,220 |
| Mike Conley | MIN | PG | 24,360,000 |
| Anfernee Simons | POR | SG | 24,107,143 |
| R.J. Barrett | NYK | F | 23,883,929 |
| Jakob Poeltl | TOR | C | 19,500,000 |
| Marvin Bagley III | DET | F/C | 12,500,000 |
| Pat Connaughton | MIL | SG | 9,423,869 |
| Troy Brown Jr | MIN | SF | 4,000,000 |
| Derrick Rose | MEM | PG | 3,196,448 |
| Kris Murray | POR | SF | 2,847,504 |
| Damian Jones | CLE | PF | 2,586,665 |
| Jordan McLaughlin | MIN | PG | 2,320,000 |
| Bol Bol | PHO | C | 2,165,000 |
| Moses Brown | POR | F/C | 2,165,000 |
| Brandon Boston Jr. | LAC | SG | 1,836,096 |
I think DeAndre Ayton would have to be on this team and it seems like it wouldn't be hard to get there salary wise (Poeltl, Conley, and especially Bagley are three expensive pieces that could be dropped).
PIK95
Footballguy
This guy Vasilije Micic was gonna be my last pick until Rob got hurt and I had to get another center. I know I'm gonna seriously regret not getting him. Big upside.
the moops
Footballguy
GUARDS - Dennis Schroder, Alex Caruso, Kris Dunn, Frank Nklitina
WINGS - Jayson Tatum, Paul George, Jaden McDaniels, Alec Burks, Isaiah Joe, Jordan Hawkins, Nikola Jovic
BIGS - Kevon Looney, Clint Capela, PJ Washington, Christian Koloko
Not sure if I start Caruso or Schroder. Probably Caruso, and go with him, George, Tatum, McDaniels, and Capela. Nobody is scoring against me. Can switch 1-5 if need be, although Caruso and McDaniel are so disruptive on the defensive end that we could play any number of defensive schemes. And it's not as if George or Tatum are slouches. They would be the best defender on many teams, but not on this one.
Have some good scoring punch off the bench in Burks (who people are sleeping on way too much - that dude can ball), PJ Washington, sharp shooter in Isaiah Joe, and future hall of famers
in Jordan Hawkins and Nikola Jovic. Looney offers the steady championship pedigree. He can start or some off bench. PJ will play some small ball 5.
This team has an incredible wing duo in PG and Tatum. Each having an incredible start to the season. Everything runs through the two of them, so not concerned with the lack of true playmaking out of the PG, although Schroder is averaging 8.4 assists this year and is a very capable table setter.
the moops
Footballguy
Sounds more like a 3rd or 4th five. Oof
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Yeah I was looking at Ayton but needed Conley because the PGs left are super thin.
Jayrod
Footballguy
You got lucky when Tatum fell to you at 7 and didn't completely fumble the ball. I really like pairing him with PG13 who can shade more to the SG with Tatum working as the 4 and McDaniels at 3. Guards are an obvious problem as Schroder is the only capable guy offensively. There is a reason Caruso doesn't even start for the Bulls in real life, so the fact you are considering starting him is rough. Sure Tatum & George can "initiate" the offense, but Tatum's TO's start to pile up when he operates with the ball in his hands for too long, which leaves PG13 as your secondary ball handler. Looney & Capela are also liabilities offensively. This team is excellent defensively, but the scoring will rely heavily on Tatum/PG13 and some of Schroder, McDaniels & Burks.
Kev4029
Footballguy
I'll give it a try later but I think surrounding Gobert with shooters (which is rough sledding with what is left) is the way to go.
Team nysfl:
Starters
PG: Cole Anthony
SG: Donovan Mitchell
SF: Austin Reaves
PF: Cam Johnson
C: Joel Embiid
Start with Embiid and surround him with shooting. The combination of Embiid and Mitchell will be impossible to stop. Everyone on the floor with Embiid shoots over 35% from 3, so you can choose to let Embiid kill you from the inside or rain down 3s from the outside. On top of that, there aren't any terrible defenders, and the inside defense will be suffocating.
2nd Team
PG: Amen Thompson/Monte Morris
SG: Cam Thomas
SF: Josh Green
PF: Ousmaine Dieng
C: Mason Plumlee
Assuming that Amen is as good as advertised, he runs the offense for the second unit. If not, Morris is one of the better backup PGs in the league and a good three-point shooter and can fill this spot just fine. Amen could even slide in with the starters if his size and defense is needed. Thomas will be doing the bulk of the scoring for this unit, just like he does for the Nets (currently averaging 27 ppg), while Green chips in with good defense and some outside shooting. Plumlee isn't sexy, but is a solid big man who can defend, rebound, and is a good passer.
Other guys
Seth Curry and Torrey Craig can come in when some extra shooting is needed. Cedi Osman can help anywhere from 2 to 4, and provide a burst of energy when the team doesn't have it that night. And Samanic has all the physical tools to be a good NBA player, and could fill in if needed, but will mostly sit on the bench because his coach hates him.
Starters
PG: Cole Anthony
SG: Donovan Mitchell
SF: Austin Reaves
PF: Cam Johnson
C: Joel Embiid
Start with Embiid and surround him with shooting. The combination of Embiid and Mitchell will be impossible to stop. Everyone on the floor with Embiid shoots over 35% from 3, so you can choose to let Embiid kill you from the inside or rain down 3s from the outside. On top of that, there aren't any terrible defenders, and the inside defense will be suffocating.
2nd Team
PG: Amen Thompson/Monte Morris
SG: Cam Thomas
SF: Josh Green
PF: Ousmaine Dieng
C: Mason Plumlee
Assuming that Amen is as good as advertised, he runs the offense for the second unit. If not, Morris is one of the better backup PGs in the league and a good three-point shooter and can fill this spot just fine. Amen could even slide in with the starters if his size and defense is needed. Thomas will be doing the bulk of the scoring for this unit, just like he does for the Nets (currently averaging 27 ppg), while Green chips in with good defense and some outside shooting. Plumlee isn't sexy, but is a solid big man who can defend, rebound, and is a good passer.
Other guys
Seth Curry and Torrey Craig can come in when some extra shooting is needed. Cedi Osman can help anywhere from 2 to 4, and provide a burst of energy when the team doesn't have it that night. And Samanic has all the physical tools to be a good NBA player, and could fill in if needed, but will mostly sit on the bench because his coach hates him.
the moops
Footballguy
Yes, and that reason is that the Bulls are dumb. Caruso has a ridiculous +15.8 net rating. Coby White not so much
Yeah, Gobert was the other omission I was looking hard at.
the moops
Footballguy
Gobert, Collins, Bogdanovic, RJ, Conley is a decent starting 5
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