2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: end of bench player on Knicks roster feeling self-conscious about not having crippling, season-ending injury (16 Viewers)

[Moe.]

i think if nothing else they’ll win more games in the regular season with Bud which will give them an easier opponent in round 1. Still don’t think they can win it all or even come close really.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

i think if nothing else they’ll win more games in the regular season with Bud which will give them an easier opponent in round 1. Still don’t think they can win it all or even come close really.

I don’t know, if they have the same health, will Bud really win more than 49 games? I think they’re better hope is that the clippers slide and maybe Dallas has a slightly worse regular season.

 

[Instinctive]

i think if nothing else they’ll win more games in the regular season with Bud which will give them an easier opponent in round 1. Still don’t think they can win it all or even come close really.

I don’t know, if they have the same health, will Bud really win more than 49 games? I think they’re better hope is that the clippers slide and maybe Dallas has a slightly worse regular season.

Which is a rough hope, given how much better Dallas has been post deadline than pre-deadline.

 

[Instinctive]

Bud contract with Suns official. 5 years/50+. I guess Ishbia doesn’t care but they should hope that Vogel gets another job soon….

The Lakers need a coach who can win a championship with LeBron for a major media market


/s

 

[Long Ball Larry]

i think if nothing else they’ll win more games in the regular season with Bud which will give them an easier opponent in round 1. Still don’t think they can win it all or even come close really.

I don’t know, if they have the same health, will Bud really win more than 49 games? I think they’re better hope is that the clippers slide and maybe Dallas has a slightly worse regular season.

Which is a rough hope, given how much better Dallas has been post deadline than pre-deadline.

Yeah, although I don’t know if that will definitely translate for a full season. I do think that Gafford and Washington have helped their defense more than I expected because they have been able to switch a lot. They have also deployed Washington a ton on the wing since they got him, which I Didn’t necessarily expect. In any event, they defensive versatility is great in the playoffs but doesn’t always translate to huge regular season win totals.

 

[MAC_32]

Great step forward for Orlando this year. Their future is bright. Nice win for the Cavs as well. Look back through the series—through the first 4 games—Jarrett Allen was their best player—-and they beat a solid Orlando team without arguably their second/third best player. I think that if Allen is healthy—I think the Celtics win in 6 games—with 2-3 of those games being very well contested. If Allen misses some time—I’d predict Boston in 5.

I thought Cleveland would take a game even without Allen. Will be interesting to see the availability of Allen and Porzingis as this series progresses. Nice win for the Cavs- but probably just a bump in the road for the Celts.

On one hand, probably. But on the other hand, the means to that win may not be a fluke (if you squint). That squinting part is Mobley. I figured Mitchell was gonna light a fire under Mobley's *** between games, but that was unexpected. Can he do it again? All the pieces fall in place when he plays like that as Garland's not asked to do too much, Mitchell can pace himself, Okoro and Strus settle into role positions, and we only have a couple CARIS PASS THE ****ING BALL moments instead of constant. Curious what the Celts do to counter assuming Porzingis is still out. Cavs won't take both, but more of that from Mobley (maybe Allen will return and give him more quality rest?) and I like our chances of splitting 3 and 4.

 

[Desert_Power]

Bud contract with Suns official. 5 years/50+. I guess Ishbia doesn’t care but they should hope that Vogel gets another job soon….

Ishbia is going to have to let more UWMC float to afford all this

 

[Desert_Power]

i think if nothing else they’ll win more games in the regular season with Bud which will give them an easier opponent in round 1. Still don’t think they can win it all or even come close really.

I don’t know, if they have the same health, will Bud really win more than 49 games? I think they’re better hope is that the clippers slide and maybe Dallas has a slightly worse regular season.

Which is a rough hope, given how much better Dallas has been post deadline than pre-deadline.

Yeah, although I don’t know if that will definitely translate for a full season. I do think that Gafford and Washington have helped their defense more than I expected because they have been able to switch a lot. They have also deployed Washington a ton on the wing since they got him, which I Didn’t necessarily expect. In any event, they defensive versatility is great in the playoffs but doesn’t always translate to huge regular season win totals.

PJ's wingspan is a lot nicer to have on the wing than resorting to using him as 5 because you cannot build a roster.

 

[thecatch]

i think if nothing else they’ll win more games in the regular season with Bud which will give them an easier opponent in round 1. Still don’t think they can win it all or even come close really.

I don’t think they’ll win more games. Two of their best players will have age related regression and their young star isn’t exactly an iron man.

 

[Instinctive]

i think if nothing else they’ll win more games in the regular season with Bud which will give them an easier opponent in round 1. Still don’t think they can win it all or even come close really.

I don’t know, if they have the same health, will Bud really win more than 49 games? I think they’re better hope is that the clippers slide and maybe Dallas has a slightly worse regular season.

Which is a rough hope, given how much better Dallas has been post deadline than pre-deadline.

Yeah, although I don’t know if that will definitely translate for a full season. I do think that Gafford and Washington have helped their defense more than I expected because they have been able to switch a lot. They have also deployed Washington a ton on the wing since they got him, which I Didn’t necessarily expect. In any event, they defensive versatility is great in the playoffs but doesn’t always translate to huge regular season win totals.

I'm not sure I follow so want to make sure I understand what you said: Defensive versatility, which helps win more games against the best teams, doesn't translate well to winning games against all the other teams too? Like they wouldn't go 18-9 in the regular season after, theyd stay about the same as pre-trades but be better in the playoffs?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

i think if nothing else they’ll win more games in the regular season with Bud which will give them an easier opponent in round 1. Still don’t think they can win it all or even come close really.

I don’t know, if they have the same health, will Bud really win more than 49 games? I think they’re better hope is that the clippers slide and maybe Dallas has a slightly worse regular season.

Which is a rough hope, given how much better Dallas has been post deadline than pre-deadline.

Yeah, although I don’t know if that will definitely translate for a full season. I do think that Gafford and Washington have helped their defense more than I expected because they have been able to switch a lot. They have also deployed Washington a ton on the wing since they got him, which I Didn’t necessarily expect. In any event, they defensive versatility is great in the playoffs but doesn’t always translate to huge regular season win totals.

I'm not sure I follow so want to make sure I understand what you said: Defensive versatility, which helps win more games against the best teams, doesn't translate well to winning games against all the other teams too? Like they wouldn't go 18-9 in the regular season after, theyd stay about the same as pre-trades but be better in the playoffs?

The defensive versatility is really useful when designing specific game plans in a series but isn’t always as helpful during the regular season when you dont have time to tailor game plans. A clear base set that you always execute often translates more to regular season wins, like the jazz from 2018-2022 of hawks from 2015-2018. But versatility is more useful in the playoffs, like the heat from the past few years

 

[msudaisy26]

Pacers are so much fun.

 

[msudaisy26]

Bud contract with Suns official. 5 years/50+. I guess Ishbia doesn’t care but they should hope that Vogel gets another job soon….

Ishbia is going to have to let more UWMC float to afford all this

The money he is spending right now is the equivalent of you going nuts at the dollar store with a full cart.

 

[msudaisy26]

Only the 2000 Lakers and the 92 Bulls won titles after losing a home playoff game by 23 + points.

Not good for Celtics or Nuggets.

 

[msudaisy26]

What is this game?

 

[General Malaise]

Josh Hart at 6'4" and outrebounding everybody is a remarkable story. Just a junkyard dog.

 

[Kev4029]

Only the 2000 Lakers and the 92 Bulls won titles after losing a home playoff game by 23 + points.

Not good for Celtics or Nuggets.

Hey, **** you. We don't need that bad juju.

 

[Kev4029]

Josh Hart at 6'4" and outrebounding everybody is a remarkable story. Just a junkyard dog.

It helps that he's been sandbagging all night. Already had 4 minutes on the bench. What a *****.

 

[trader jake]

Bud contract with Suns official. 5 years/50+. I guess Ishbia doesn’t care but they should hope that Vogel gets another job soon….

The Lakers need a coach who can win a championship with LeBron for a major media market


/s

I enjoyed Bill Simmons idea ...since the NBA (apparently) doesn't allow player-coaches anymore, make the Lakers head coach Maverick Carter.

 

[Major]

I never thought of DiVincenzo as anything more than a role player but man he's been impressive this playoffs. Making clutch shots, great passes, playing good d, etc. Great pick up for NYK.

 

[Kev4029]

Do the Knicks know that they can either win or lose in convincing fashion?

 

[Frostillicus]

I never thought of DiVincenzo as anything more than a role player but man he's been impressive this playoffs. Making clutch shots, great passes, playing good d, etc. Great pick up for NYK.

He's been awesome.

 

[Major]

Josh Hart at 6'4" and outrebounding everybody is a remarkable story. Just a junkyard dog.

People think of him as much taller but that's the same height as Barkley

 

[Capella]

Josh Hart at 6'4" and outrebounding everybody is a remarkable story. Just a junkyard dog.

Funny just looked at how tall he was a few minutes ago and was shocked when I saw 6’4. Just assumed 6’7 or something.

 

[General Malaise]

The Nemhardt guy SUCKS

 

[msudaisy26]

The Nemhardt guy SUCKS

He is turning into a new version of Pat Beverly.

 

[GroveDiesel]

The Pacers are just awful at boxing out and positioning for rebounds.

 

[identikit]

Dumb challenge

 

[msudaisy26]

This has been a good appetizer before the main course.

 

[Instinctive]

i think if nothing else they’ll win more games in the regular season with Bud which will give them an easier opponent in round 1. Still don’t think they can win it all or even come close really.

I don’t know, if they have the same health, will Bud really win more than 49 games? I think they’re better hope is that the clippers slide and maybe Dallas has a slightly worse regular season.

Which is a rough hope, given how much better Dallas has been post deadline than pre-deadline.

Yeah, although I don’t know if that will definitely translate for a full season. I do think that Gafford and Washington have helped their defense more than I expected because they have been able to switch a lot. They have also deployed Washington a ton on the wing since they got him, which I Didn’t necessarily expect. In any event, they defensive versatility is great in the playoffs but doesn’t always translate to huge regular season win totals.

I'm not sure I follow so want to make sure I understand what you said: Defensive versatility, which helps win more games against the best teams, doesn't translate well to winning games against all the other teams too? Like they wouldn't go 18-9 in the regular season after, theyd stay about the same as pre-trades but be better in the playoffs?

The defensive versatility is really useful when designing specific game plans in a series but isn’t always as helpful during the regular season when you dont have time to tailor game plans. A clear base set that you always execute often translates more to regular season wins, like the jazz from 2018-2022 of hawks from 2015-2018. But versatility is more useful in the playoffs, like the heat from the past few years

Right. We may have to agree to disagree here. The average defensive ability at every position went up. I have a really hard time seeing how also adding versatility would be a negative lol. But just straight up improving on defense (like going from, say bottom ten to top 10), regardless of the reason, for 1/3 of the season, wouldn't translate? Like if a team made trades, then went 18-9 AND performed well in the playoffs, your assumption is that the defense is too versatile to overcome the raw skill improvements for a full season, and the 18-9 was a fluke?

 

[Capella]

Wow they missed that goaltending. Wow wow.

 

[GroveDiesel]

The Nemhardt guy SUCKS

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

The Nemhardt guy SUCKS

Update?

 

[identikit]

OMG

 

[GroveDiesel]

Brunson is a great player, but he’s also the next huge crybaby and flopper as well.

 

[General Malaise]

The Nemhardt guy SUCKS

Update?

Greatest 5 point effort in 35 minutes in the history of basketball!!!!!!!1111

 

[msudaisy26]

Brunson is a great player, but he’s also the next huge crybaby and flopper as well.

I know it isn't right, but when guys like Brunson whine I can accept it more than Luka, Lebron etc.

 

[Major]

The Nemhardt guy SUCKS

He really bailed out Halliburton who took an ill advised three previously. I thought he was about to take another. Fun series.

 

[trader jake]

Brunson is a great player, but he’s also the next huge crybaby and flopper as well.

Next? He's already there.

We're talking prime CP3 level non-sense from Brunson all game long. Him arguing that his arm got hit at the end of game 3 was embarrassing.

 

[msudaisy26]

The Nemhardt guy SUCKS

He really bailed out Halliburton who took an ill advised three previously. I thought he was about to take another. Fun series.

I think he was trying to go 2 for 1.

 

[Major]

The Nemhardt guy SUCKS

He really bailed out Halliburton who took an ill advised three previously. I thought he was about to take another. Fun series.

I think he was trying to go 2 for 1.

That makes sense but it seemed like he jacked it up without a care in the world. I guess that's part of his game though as he often make those crazy shots.

 

[msudaisy26]

The T Wolves don't look afraid and play so calm. When you look at Indiana or even the Knicks they are so scattered at times and look nervous especially at the end of games.

 

[Frostillicus]

god dammit i knew it

 

[Frostillicus]

Nuggets in 6.

 

[msudaisy26]

This looks like the defending champs.

 

[Kev4029]

Denver Nuggets = Good?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Sure looks like the T-Wolves have gotten the Nuggets undivided attention right now, things can change but Denver appears like they want to send a message, not just win a close one.
Playing like reigning World Champions tonight

 

[General Malaise]

Time to switch to NHL.

 

[Kev4029]

Time to switch to NHL.

Eat a big bag of Richards.

 

[msudaisy26]

Denver Nuggets = Good?

They were always good, we just wrongly made the playoffs a two horse race between them and the Celtics. The Twolves forced themselves into the discussion.