2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Message board poster furiously types out one more horrible post before thread closes (1 Viewer)

[Orange&Blue]

MVP Jokic-to-Gordon 70-foot alley oop easily the best play of the season so far

that was nuts

 

[msudaisy26]

I know the season is early, but this best play of the year so far is going to get old.

Far more interesting than wading through insipid updates on the defensive prowess of the Detroit Pistons

BEST DEFENSIVE PERFORMANCE OF THE YEAR SO FAR!

 

[mr. furley]

I know the season is early, but this best play of the year so far is going to get old.

i've been listening to a few basketball podcasts and hearing lots of talk about how teams are no good, players can't play, no way a team can continue like this.... 2 games in to the season.

sports media is absolute garbage

 

[General Malaise]

I know the season is early, but this best play of the year so far is going to get old.

i've been listening to a few basketball podcasts and hearing lots of talk about how teams are no good, players can't play, no way a team can continue like this.... 2 games in to the season.

sports media is absolute garbage

One of the guy's in the booth for the Oregon game was talking about NFL teams with a need at QB looking hard at Bo Nix. The second NFL team he mentioned? The 49ers. Like, what?

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Wizards seem greatly helped by Tyus Jones of all people. Nice to have a PG to distribute even if he's just another guy and will only get 6 assists a night and we will still suck. At least it's watchable. Better than Beal dribbling in circles before handing it to the other jersey.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Wizards seem greatly helped by Tyus Jones of all people. Nice to have a PG to distribute even if he's just another guy and will only get 6 assists a night and we will still suck. At least it's watchable. Better than Beal dribbling in circles before handing it to the other jersey.

Things looking grisly for the grizzlies

 

[Stoneworker]

I know the season is early, but this best play of the year so far is going to get old.

Far more interesting than wading through insipid updates on the defensive prowess of the Detroit Pistons

BEST DEFENSIVE PERFORMANCE OF THE YEAR SO FAR!

It's still just October. Maybe if enough Detroiters write to Santa he might bring an actual franchise to the city for Christmas. Then you too might have highlights worthy of sharing.

 

[msudaisy26]

I know the season is early, but this best play of the year so far is going to get old.

Far more interesting than wading through insipid updates on the defensive prowess of the Detroit Pistons

BEST DEFENSIVE PERFORMANCE OF THE YEAR SO FAR!

It's still just October. Maybe if enough Detroiters write to Santa he might bring an actual franchise to the city for Christmas. Then you too might have highlights worthy of sharing.

Ouch.

 

[Stoneworker]

I know the season is early, but this best play of the year so far is going to get old.

Far more interesting than wading through insipid updates on the defensive prowess of the Detroit Pistons

BEST DEFENSIVE PERFORMANCE OF THE YEAR SO FAR!

It's still just October. Maybe if enough Detroiters write to Santa he might bring an actual franchise to the city for Christmas. Then you too might have highlights worthy of sharing.

Ouch.

Sorry, wasn't personal. Bad Boys disciple here so sometimes old trash-talking habits die hard. Truce. And apologies again if too close to home

 

[Long Ball Larry]

HOT TAKE

Toumani Camara will be the consequential element Of the Jrue Holiday trade

Edit: and someday his name won’t be autocorrected 78 times before I can get it right

 

[General Malaise]

HOT TAKE

Toumani Camara will be the consequential element Of the Jrue Holiday trade

Edit: and someday his name won’t be autocorrected 78 times before I can get it right

He's already the Blazers best 3 point shooter.

If only Portland could play Philadelphia every game.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

HOT TAKE

Toumani Camara will be the consequential element Of the Jrue Holiday trade

Edit: and someday his name won’t be autocorrected 78 times before I can get it right

He's already the Blazers best 3 point shooter.

If only Portland could play Philadelphia every game.

I guess so you can lose by less?

 

[General Malaise]

HOT TAKE

Toumani Camara will be the consequential element Of the Jrue Holiday trade

Edit: and someday his name won’t be autocorrected 78 times before I can get it right

He's already the Blazers best 3 point shooter.

If only Portland could play Philadelphia every game.

I guess so you can lose by less?

We're a 2nd half team.

 

[General Malaise]

HOT TAKE

Toumani Camara will be the consequential element Of the Jrue Holiday trade

Edit: and someday his name won’t be autocorrected 78 times before I can get it right

He's already the Blazers best 3 point shooter.

If only Portland could play Philadelphia every game.

I guess so you can lose by less?

We're a 2nd half team.

We're.....We're not a very good team.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

HOT TAKE

Toumani Camara will be the consequential element Of the Jrue Holiday trade

Edit: and someday his name won’t be autocorrected 78 times before I can get it right

He's already the Blazers best 3 point shooter.

If only Portland could play Philadelphia every game.

Your proposal has been reviewed and accepted

 

[msudaisy26]

VanFleet is going to hate it in Houston on this team. As soon as he is tradable the Rockets should send him to the 76ers for the Harden and a couple of picks.

 

[thecatch]

Javale McGee is 35 and still plays with the same awe inspiring size and athleticism and astonishingly low BBIQ that he did 13 years ago. Pretty wild.

 

[FatMax]

Javale McGee is 35 and still plays with the same awe inspiring size and athleticism and astonishingly low BBIQ that he did 13 years ago. Pretty wild.

What's up with Lyles? He'd have been perfect in that small-ball lineup.

 

[thecatch]

Javale McGee is 35 and still plays with the same awe inspiring size and athleticism and astonishingly low BBIQ that he did 13 years ago. Pretty wild.

What's up with Lyles? He'd have been perfect in that small-ball lineup.

Still hurt.

 

[NewlyRetired]

16 year old Cooper Flagg has committed to Duke. He is projected to be the #1 pick in the 2025 NBA draft.

 

[SWC]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

 

[Jayrod]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

 

[Kev4029]

I think the Nuggets might be significantly improved from last season. We all knew the starters were going to be great but the bench was a big question mark. Turns out, the bench might be a strength, not a weakness. If Jackson/Braun/Watson/Nnaji all continue to play this well, the Nuggets could get 65 wins this year.

 

[Major]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

The Celtics starting 5 is something to marvel at. Much more balanced than the Bucks. Lets see if Porzingis can stay healthy.

 

[Jayrod]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

The Celtics starting 5 is something to marvel at. Much more balanced than the Bucks. Lets see if Porzingis can stay healthy.

So far Porzingis is better than I expected. Between his injuries and then being stuck in the purgatory of Washington, I don't think I had watched him play a full game in a couple of years. I've been especially impressed with his rim protection.

 

[General Malaise]

Max Strus off to a nice start in Cleveland.

 

[the moops]

I think the Nuggets might be significantly improved from last season. We all knew the starters were going to be great but the bench was a big question mark. Turns out, the bench might be a strength, not a weakness. If Jackson/Braun/Watson/Nnaji all continue to play this well, the Nuggets could get 65 wins this year.

Jackson hasn't mysteriously gotten better from last year - he is 33 years old.
Braun is shooting 14% from three
Nnaji is playing same # of minutes from last year but is scoring fewer points and only grabbing 1 rebound a game
Watson does look better though

 

[Jayrod]

I think the Nuggets might be significantly improved from last season. We all knew the starters were going to be great but the bench was a big question mark. Turns out, the bench might be a strength, not a weakness. If Jackson/Braun/Watson/Nnaji all continue to play this well, the Nuggets could get 65 wins this year.

Jackson hasn't mysteriously gotten better from last year - he is 33 years old.
Braun is shooting 14% from three
Nnaji is playing same # of minutes from last year but is scoring fewer points and only grabbing 1 rebound a game
Watson does look better though

Why do you always have to be so harsh with bringing people back to reality?

Jerkface.

 

[the moops]

I think the Nuggets might be significantly improved from last season. We all knew the starters were going to be great but the bench was a big question mark. Turns out, the bench might be a strength, not a weakness. If Jackson/Braun/Watson/Nnaji all continue to play this well, the Nuggets could get 65 wins this year.

Jackson hasn't mysteriously gotten better from last year - he is 33 years old.
Braun is shooting 14% from three
Nnaji is playing same # of minutes from last year but is scoring fewer points and only grabbing 1 rebound a game
Watson does look better though

Why do you always have to be so harsh with bringing people back to reality?

Jerkface.

It's in my DNA. It's out of love though. If I compliment you, beware

 

[Stoneworker]

I think the Nuggets might be significantly improved from last season. We all knew the starters were going to be great but the bench was a big question mark. Turns out, the bench might be a strength, not a weakness. If Jackson/Braun/Watson/Nnaji all continue to play this well, the Nuggets could get 65 wins this year.

Jackson hasn't mysteriously gotten better from last year - he is 33 years old.
Braun is shooting 14% from three
Nnaji is playing same # of minutes from last year but is scoring fewer points and only grabbing 1 rebound a game
Watson does look better though

These offensive stats are meaningless. The strength of the Nuggets' bench play has been swarming defense and infusion of energy while the starters rest.

That's what they're in there for and what was lacking the entirety of last year until just before the playoffs.

 

[General Malaise]

I think the Nuggets might be significantly improved from last season. We all knew the starters were going to be great but the bench was a big question mark. Turns out, the bench might be a strength, not a weakness. If Jackson/Braun/Watson/Nnaji all continue to play this well, the Nuggets could get 65 wins this year.

Jackson hasn't mysteriously gotten better from last year - he is 33 years old.
Braun is shooting 14% from three
Nnaji is playing same # of minutes from last year but is scoring fewer points and only grabbing 1 rebound a game
Watson does look better though

These offensive stats are meaningless. The strength of the Nuggets' bench play has been swarming defense and infusion of energy while the starters rest.

That's what they're in there for and what was lacking the entirety of last year until just before the playoffs.

Well well well, look who is posting insipid updates on defensive prowess now!

 

[Kev4029]

I think the Nuggets might be significantly improved from last season. We all knew the starters were going to be great but the bench was a big question mark. Turns out, the bench might be a strength, not a weakness. If Jackson/Braun/Watson/Nnaji all continue to play this well, the Nuggets could get 65 wins this year.

Jackson hasn't mysteriously gotten better from last year - he is 33 years old.
Braun is shooting 14% from three
Nnaji is playing same # of minutes from last year but is scoring fewer points and only grabbing 1 rebound a game
Watson does look better though

Jackson may have mysteriously gotten better from last year - I don't think the 3pt% will maintain but the rest of his game is sustainable if he keeps avoiding the unnecessarily bad shots that have plagued his entire career. A better shot diet for players has been a staple of Jokic-ball - see Bruce Brown last year, Aaron Gordon a couple years before that.

Braun has shot 7 threes - the rest of his game has looked much improved. He's handling and passing the ball much better, defense and energy is still on point.

Nnaji is +14 per 100 possessions - he has been a maniac on the defensive end. The team is actually outrebounding the opponent when his is on the court - and that is often with a fairly small lineup. He's got a little of that Steven Adams/Robin Lopez thing going on where he is doing his work on rebounds boxing out the opposing center and somebody else is grabbing the rebounds.

Watson is averaging 5 stocks per 36 minutes. That is ****ing bonkers. Pope is averaging over 4 and Gordon is averaging 4.5.

 

[Yo Mama]

Hey y’all, don’t forget to join the NBA In-Season Tournament thingamajig before Thursday night.

They’re going to have special fancy court designs for the games and you’ll be super sad on Friday you didn’t join the fun.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I thought the in-season tournament thing was going to start like, mid-season. Not the second week. Seems odd?

 

[msudaisy26]

I think the Nuggets might be significantly improved from last season. We all knew the starters were going to be great but the bench was a big question mark. Turns out, the bench might be a strength, not a weakness. If Jackson/Braun/Watson/Nnaji all continue to play this well, the Nuggets could get 65 wins this year.

Jackson hasn't mysteriously gotten better from last year - he is 33 years old.
Braun is shooting 14% from three
Nnaji is playing same # of minutes from last year but is scoring fewer points and only grabbing 1 rebound a game
Watson does look better though

Why do you always have to be so harsh with bringing people back to reality?

Jerkface.

It's in my DNA. It's out of love though. If I compliment you, beware

User name checks out.

 

[msudaisy26]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

The Celtics starting 5 is something to marvel at. Much more balanced than the Bucks. Lets see if Porzingis can stay healthy.

So far Porzingis is better than I expected. Between his injuries and then being stuck in the purgatory of Washington, I don't think I had watched him play a full game in a couple of years. I've been especially impressed with his rim protection.

I always loved Porzingis's game. He could have been Wembanyama 8 years ago, but he was a little immature and injury prone. It looks like he has grown up a little and hopefully he can stay healthy.

 

[Yo Mama]

I thought the in-season tournament thing was going to start like, mid-season. Not the second week. Seems odd?

I think they wanted it done before their marquee Christmas games. The group games are every Tuesday and Friday game in the month of November.

 

[General Malaise]

Betting against Portland this year has been off to a lucrative start. 0-3 ATS with another chance to showcase their stuff tonight in Toronto. Going to bet against Portland every game this year. TO THE PROMISE LAND!

 

[General Malaise]

Meanwhile the Pistons and their defensive prowess are 3-0 against the spread with the healthiest ATS +/- in the Association.

 

[msudaisy26]

Meanwhile the Pistons and their defensive prowess are 3-0 against the spread with the healthiest ATS +/- in the Association.

The Pistons were a bad opening half away from being 3 - 0. Baby steps.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

The Celtics starting 5 is something to marvel at. Much more balanced than the Bucks. Lets see if Porzingis can stay healthy.

So far Porzingis is better than I expected. Between his injuries and then being stuck in the purgatory of Washington, I don't think I had watched him play a full game in a couple of years. I've been especially impressed with his rim protection.

He was great for us last year. But players don't get noticed when they play for bad teams, and much less if it's the one in Washington.

 

[Anarchy99]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

The Celtics starting 5 is something to marvel at. Much more balanced than the Bucks. Lets see if Porzingis can stay healthy.

So far Porzingis is better than I expected. Between his injuries and then being stuck in the purgatory of Washington, I don't think I had watched him play a full game in a couple of years. I've been especially impressed with his rim protection.

The Celtics are setting themselves up similarly to recent seasons. Overplay the starters, who will wear down by the playoffs when they need to be a lot fresher than they were in their last playoff runs. On top of that, that limits the development of the bench / nonstarters. Right now, they have Al as the bench big man, Pritchard as the extra guard, and Hauser as a shooting wing. Brissett has gotten some minutes as well, but he really hasn't done much offensively.

The non-starters have averaged a net rating of -30 points per 100 possessions so far. Check out these PER numbers (league average is 15): Pritchard 8.9, Horford 5.0, Brissett 4.8, Hauser 1.3. I don't care how good the starters have looked, they need to get a lot more production and minutes from the bench to be in better position to have a successful post season after 82 games.

Not sure what the solution is, but going all out to win games in October may or may not be the right answer.

 

[Kev4029]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

The Celtics starting 5 is something to marvel at. Much more balanced than the Bucks. Lets see if Porzingis can stay healthy.

So far Porzingis is better than I expected. Between his injuries and then being stuck in the purgatory of Washington, I don't think I had watched him play a full game in a couple of years. I've been especially impressed with his rim protection.

I always loved Porzingis's game. He could have been Wembanyama 8 years ago, but he was a little immature and injury prone. It looks like he has grown up a little and hopefully he can stay healthy.

And nowhere near the athlete. Porzingis isn't a stiff, but he was never especially mobile laterally (although probably a little better shooter). Wemby is an athletic specimen that the NBA has never quite seen at this sort of height.

 

[whoknew]

Meanwhile the Pistons and their defensive prowess are 3-0 against the spread with the healthiest ATS +/- in the Association.

The Pistons were a bad opening half away from being 3 - 0. Baby steps.

Duren has been awesome. And really like what I see out of Ausar Thompson so far.

 

[Jayrod]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

The Celtics starting 5 is something to marvel at. Much more balanced than the Bucks. Lets see if Porzingis can stay healthy.

So far Porzingis is better than I expected. Between his injuries and then being stuck in the purgatory of Washington, I don't think I had watched him play a full game in a couple of years. I've been especially impressed with his rim protection.

The Celtics are setting themselves up similarly to recent seasons. Overplay the starters, who will wear down by the playoffs when they need to be a lot fresher than they were in their last playoff runs. On top of that, that limits the development of the bench / nonstarters. Right now, they have Al as the bench big man, Pritchard as the extra guard, and Hauser as a shooting wing. Brissett has gotten some minutes as well, but he really hasn't done much offensively.

The non-starters have averaged a net rating of -30 points per 100 possessions so far. Check out these PER numbers (league average is 15): Pritchard 8.9, Horford 5.0, Brissett 4.8, Hauser 1.3. I don't care how good the starters have looked, they need to get a lot more production and minutes from the bench to be in better position to have a successful post season after 82 games.

Not sure what the solution is, but going all out to win games in October may or may not be the right answer.

I feel like Tatum, Brown and White are still young enough and are strong enough to play big minutes all year long. But Jrue, KP & Horford are all on the wrong side of 30 and won't hold up well under 35 mpg for 70+ games.

That said, we are only 2 games in and I don't expect the Celtics to do nothing before the trade deadline. They played a good Knicks team on opening night and wanted to make a statement against Miami in game 2. The full regular season rotation likely hasn't even been used yet.

 

[Kev4029]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

The Celtics starting 5 is something to marvel at. Much more balanced than the Bucks. Lets see if Porzingis can stay healthy.

So far Porzingis is better than I expected. Between his injuries and then being stuck in the purgatory of Washington, I don't think I had watched him play a full game in a couple of years. I've been especially impressed with his rim protection.

The Celtics are setting themselves up similarly to recent seasons. Overplay the starters, who will wear down by the playoffs when they need to be a lot fresher than they were in their last playoff runs. On top of that, that limits the development of the bench / nonstarters. Right now, they have Al as the bench big man, Pritchard as the extra guard, and Hauser as a shooting wing. Brissett has gotten some minutes as well, but he really hasn't done much offensively.

The non-starters have averaged a net rating of -30 points per 100 possessions so far. Check out these PER numbers (league average is 15): Pritchard 8.9, Horford 5.0, Brissett 4.8, Hauser 1.3. I don't care how good the starters have looked, they need to get a lot more production and minutes from the bench to be in better position to have a successful post season after 82 games.

Not sure what the solution is, but going all out to win games in October may or may not be the right answer.

I feel like Tatum, Brown and White are still young enough and are strong enough to play big minutes all year long. But Jrue, KP & Horford are all on the wrong side of 30 and won't hold up well under 35 mpg for 70+ games.

That said, we are only 2 games in and I don't expect the Celtics to do nothing before the trade deadline. They played a good Knicks team on opening night and wanted to make a statement against Miami in game 2. The full regular season rotation likely hasn't even been used yet.

KP just FEELS old - he just had his 28th BDay. But point taken, they can't expect him to play so much and not break down at some point.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Get to see Wemby tomorrow night (crosses fingers he plays).
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Celtics look like an even better team. Had one heck of an off-season.

 

[caustic]

Betting against Portland this year has been off to a lucrative start. 0-3 ATS with another chance to showcase their stuff tonight in Toronto. Going to bet against Portland every game this year. TO THE PROMISE LAND!

Scoot, man...

I think he's just in the process of figuring out NBA length and athleticism. Some of his passes and shot attempts have been so clearly DOA that I've shouted "NO!!!!" at the TV. The simple layup packages that worked against G leaguers don't quite translate against Kawhi Leonard. He has the necessary athleticism and BBIQ to develop some counters, so hopefully we see improvement by the end of the year.

 

[msudaisy26]

well the bucks looked like a garbage fire last night still trying to figure it out i suspect take that to the bank brohans

I figure the Bucks and Celtics will both have some growing pains with all of the changes they've made. Lillard isn't going to play other-wordly every night out and coaching and playing with Giannis is likely very different than anything you would experience on another team.

The Celtics starting 5 is something to marvel at. Much more balanced than the Bucks. Lets see if Porzingis can stay healthy.

So far Porzingis is better than I expected. Between his injuries and then being stuck in the purgatory of Washington, I don't think I had watched him play a full game in a couple of years. I've been especially impressed with his rim protection.

I always loved Porzingis's game. He could have been Wembanyama 8 years ago, but he was a little immature and injury prone. It looks like he has grown up a little and hopefully he can stay healthy.

And nowhere near the athlete. Porzingis isn't a stiff, but he was never especially mobile laterally (although probably a little better shooter). Wemby is an athletic specimen that the NBA has never quite seen at this sort of height.

It isn't a perfect comp. Sorry

 

[msudaisy26]

Betting against Portland this year has been off to a lucrative start. 0-3 ATS with another chance to showcase their stuff tonight in Toronto. Going to bet against Portland every game this year. TO THE PROMISE LAND!

Scoot, man...

I think he's just in the process of figuring out NBA length and athleticism. Some of his passes and shot attempts have been so clearly DOA that I've shouted "NO!!!!" at the TV. The simple layup packages that worked against G leaguers don't quite translate against Kawhi Leonard. He has the necessary athleticism and BBIQ to develop some counters, so hopefully we see improvement by the end of the year.

Scoot scared me as a prospect, but I kind of came around on him. It has only been a few games though so way to early to worry.

I think this draft class will be looked back on with hindsight as a very good draft class, but after Wembanyama I think it was a total crap shoot and made it a bad draft at the time.of the draft.