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2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Message board poster furiously types out one more horrible post before thread closes (3 Viewers)
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They've been in the play in hunt all year and tanking was never in the cards due to OKC owning most of the pick slots. Five in a row is surprising though especially with all the injuries (Sengun, Eason, Cam). The main difference lately is that Jalen Green is finally playing up to his potential and looking ANTish out there. Unfortunately, I know it won't last. Might prop up his trade value a bit and I'm all for trading him if they get some decent assets.
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Ok.
I think you and I could go out there with queta, Jordan Walsh and present day Kevin mchale and beat the wizards.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Does sort of make me want to take the wiz +15 though
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Quite a 4th quarter in dallas
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Kyrie Irving scores a basket.
Zow
Footballguy
He even used the wrong hand.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Dallas is going to miss a higher seed or lose earlier than they should because they are poorly coached. That said...awesome ATO to end the game and go to Kyrie. THAT is why you have two superstar scorers.
The final 4 minutes were so poorly executed by Dallas is was embarrassing.
Other observations:
The final 4 minutes were so poorly executed by Dallas is was embarrassing.
Other observations:
- It's funny that we complain about Luka, Shai, Harden, etc foul baiting but I don't seem to notice it come up with Jokic much. I think it's because his don't come on drives or step backs and such but good lord the number of loose ball, getting a rebound, etc. type of plays where he just throws his arms right into whomever is nearest and gets the call is unbearably ridiculous
- Kyrie Irving set the tone on defense, Luka bought in, and the rest of the team felt it and absolutely swarmed the Nuggets throughout the game.
- There was one play where Murray tried to isolate Luka and he just cornered him into the baseline where Gafford could step up and help, stuck with him all the way
- Gafford/Lively on the interior is outstanding. Off the top of my head, I'm going to guess it is a borderline top 5 center rotation. Obviously behind LA, healthy PHI, DEN, MIL...then maybe San Antonio they way Victor is playing (similar to those teams it's all about the star center)
- While Washington continues to be kind of terrible from 3, the confidence with which he takes and respect from other teams looks darn good every time
- Dallas starting five from today, which is still not a lot of minutes together, is +28/100 possessions (Luka, Kyrie, Washington, DJJ, Gafford)
- When MPJ is going, Denver is impossible to stop. Dude is huge and basically unblockable and a smoooooooooth stroke
- Denver without Jokic just got boatraced whenever he sat
- Really like the general better officiating of late with fewer ticky tack calls - think if they can stay consistent about it, it'll continue to force Luka to be less of a whiner too
Jayrod
Footballguy
So far, so good. Up 35 with 10 min left in 3rd qtr.
Hauser starts and 8/10 from 3 so far.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I get the sentiment because any buzzer beater b a star must be hero ball now, but I don't think that was "hero ball" as I understand it to be defined. No isolation, step back, try to be Jordan, etc.
They actually used hero ball in a pretty clever play and Jokic made a great defensive adjustment to immediately jump to the ball. They ran a great feint off a pindown to get Luka up top, drew the defensive attention while Kyrie slipped to a sideline-style Iverson cut in front of the inbounder to get the ball free and clear at full speed.
It was an outstanding idea, executed 6/10, with an amazing outcome. But that's how you get amazing outcomes isn't it? Putting incredible players in advantageous situations?
Was one of the only in game coaching decisions Kidd made that I thought was good.
CletiusMaximus
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Major
Footballguy
I'm just speaking on their strategy overall. I love Luka but Iso ball and hero shots are not a winning combination in the post season. Not confident in Kidd either.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Ah, makes more sense. Was just weird that you applied it to a post on that play. Don't think the Mavs style vs the Nuggets was hero ball at all - in fact, check my observations above - one of the best team ball-pinging efforts I've seen in a while and they did a great job putting Luka and Kyrie (and Gafford/Lively, Exum, and DJJ!) in position to win as a team.
Major
Footballguy
IIRC, the last two possessions was Luka making a 30 footer to tie it and Kyrie making that ridiculous running left hook type shot to win it. Add poor defense to the mix and it doesn't strike me as a team that will perform well in the post season. I'm just a casual Mavericks observer but I could see them losing to the Rockets in the Play In
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Poor John Collins left the game and didn't return. He might never play basketball again.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Frostillicus
Footballguy
This is why we can't ever get rid of twitter.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I'd like to see Mac McClung try that one.
the moops
Footballguy
EVERYONE has been talking about it. So many people in fact that it is annoying because every basketball podcast is leading with this. But yes, March has been the lowest FT attempts per game in league history, or something like that
Major
Footballguy
If that isn't an MVP moment, I don't know what is. #2 on my ballot after Joker.
Jayrod
Footballguy
If that's an MVP play, then Blake Griffin should have a lot more hardware.
I get it is impressive, but it's still just a bucket. Doncic & SGA do much more for their team overall than ANT.
Major
Footballguy
Haha, pls don't compare him to Griffin. We live in a time of internet clips so people are going to remember that. SGA and Doncic are in the same tier but I favor Ant for everything he's asked to do. Impressive they're still fighting for best record in the West despite the injuries. SGA has a better supporting cast and Dallas is a play in squad.
Seeing these MVP lists without him are comical. More folks need to put sum respek on his name.
Zow
Footballguy
I’m
Preach!
Jayrod
Footballguy
Right below Tatum is where I'd rank ANT on the MVP rankings.
ANT vs Tatum
ANT vs Tatum
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I agree that Ant should be higher on the list for MVP, but this isn't Heisman voting. There isn't a signature moment.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Basketball Reference has Tatum ranked 5th but does not have Edwards in their Top 10. They do, however, have Gobert at 9.
Major
Footballguy
I like stats but a team's success and eye test also matter to me. Lots of these stat
need to get out more, touch grass and watch the actual games.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Out of curiosity, where do you think Gobert, Tatum, and SGA are in terms of team success?
I like stats but a team's success and eye test also matter to me. Lots of these stat
Major
Footballguy
Out of curiosity, where do you think Gobert, Tatum, and SGA are in terms of team success?
I like stats but a team's success and eye test also matter to me. Lots of these stat
I'd rank them as:
SGA
Tatum
Gobert
Major
Footballguy
If the Rockets make the play in, Jalen Green for MVP after Joker and Ant. He's been playing the best ball of his career since Sengun went down:
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Rockets 137-114 Wizards (Mar 19, 2024) Game Recap - ESPN
Expert recap and game analysis of the Houston Rockets vs. Washington Wizards NBA game from March 19, 2024 on ESPN.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
This sounds about right. For this year.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
More great dunks tonight:
Instinctive
Footballguy
Wembanyama is crazy. Holy cow. Although I will say he was out there a lot but he didn't do much last night. Just some insane plays out of nowhere, but overall felt very inconsistent. Off night.
Major
Footballguy
Good to see you rethinking your Top 10. I know he won't win the MVP this year but If Minny wins the West, I hope to see him in the 5th or 6th slot.
Kev4029
Footballguy
The Wolves are +900 to finish with the best record in the West.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
To put it in suckiness terms the Pistons lost 28 games in a row this year and the Wizards still have a worse record. The Pistons lost 35 percent of the season in a row and are still better.
Major
Footballguy
Definite long shot with Ant leading on Rudy and a bunch of scrubs but they've remained fairly competitive. Almost beat Denver last night. I've seen stranger things happen.
I saw somewhere - reddit maybe, so who knows if its true - that Bagley was on pace to have lost the most games in a season ever for a player. Which would be fitting.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I guessed the right top 2 in the right order. My #3 was the actual number four. So pretty good guesses.
Kev4029
Footballguy
He has 7 wins on the season in 70 games. He caught an extra game in the trade, so he could go 7-76. The '72-'73 Sixers went 9-73.
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