2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (2 Viewers)

[WDIK2]

4 teams just is not enough for a "playoff" with so many conferences. There needs to be an 8 or 12 team tournament.

The playoff goes to 12 next year. A year too late for some, but I believe this is the first year 6ish teams had a legit claim to be in it.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Rick Scott letter

His money is wrong too. If FSU makes the playoffs, then Louisville gets the Orange Bowl and that's more money that would go the ACC and FSU.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Oregon is way too strong for Liberty. I hate that matchup for both teams. Liberty deserves a shot at a decent game but against somebody they would have a chance to beat, like Iowa or Oregon State for instance.

I hate that Ohio St is playing Missouri instead of Oregon.

Not that you don’t have a good point (you do); we also felt the same way about Oklahoma v. Boise State way back when. These G5 teams are picking off P5 teams on a semi regular basi now. This ain’t your pop pop’s college football.

Just last year alone, Tulane beat USC in a NY6 bowl. I expect Oregon to beat the brains out of Liberty if all of Oregon's guys play in the game but historically these G5 teams don't embarrass themselves in these big games.

 

[Tom Servo]

Words I have NEVER uttered in my entire life. . . . Roll Damn Tide!

Ouch, how can you? I cheered so hard for you guys against Georgia last year.

Sorry, I. . . just can't. . . no hate just a little bitterness.

I am the opposite, I root for OSU every game except that last one in November. The better they look, the better we look in comparison.

That’s the difference between Buckeye fans and Wolverine fans. Buckeye fans won’t even say or write the word Michigan, much less root for them.

As I grew up in Ohio, have lots of friends on social media who are Buckeyes fans. They either use “*” or “TTUN” (That Team Up North) to refer to Michigan. They also routinely post photos of words or businesses that start with a capital M with the “M” crossed out. Die hard Buckeyes fans will NEVER root for Michigan, even if it’s against their own interest. Just ask @Sullie. “Roll Tide” posts are littering my feed right now.

I have a good buddy who’s UM all the way and I’m OSU all the way. He can’t understand how I can never root for UM, even in a bowl game that makes the conference look better. I just can’t do it! I attribute it to me growing up in the “Cooper Years” when we were embarrassed almost every year for 13 years.

ETA - Roll Tide!

And as a PSU fan, I hope you both lose.

 

[General Malaise]

FSU got hosed imo

I think there’s a distinction between feeling bad for them and them getting hosed. I don’t think they got hosed based on the process but I do think they cosmically got hosed because their QB got hurt and Georgia lost to Bama.

The process?

They are a power 5 conference champion who is 13-0 in this day and age of the transfer portal and parity across the country. They have arguably the top defense in the country as well. They carried them to two wins to finish the season.

They earned the right to play for the prize. Period.

Bama.....lost to Texas who is in the dance.

It's fraudulent.

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

Please compare UM and FSU SoS.

Then tell me about Iowa. Then @LSU. Then Clemson and Duke.

Michigan beat Ohio State. That's a huge win.

I still think FSU got jobbed, but let's not forget Michigan owns a more impressive victory than anything FSU can point to this season.

 

[Tau837]

On a scale of 1 to 10 how angry would you be if Bama wins it in controversial fashion while you guys beat UGA by 20?

I mean there are too many variables at play, so hard to say. I do think we got the hardest opponent of all the 6 teams considered which is oddly hilarious.

To answer part of the question, if we beat UGA by 20 I will forever be mad. 14-0 with that kind of win at the end? Hang the banner. Teams have claimed titles for less.

How likely do you think it is that FSU wins, much less by 20? I think they likely lose by 20+.

UGA is one of the best 4 teams IMO.

 

[Desert_Power]

Rick Scott letter

Yeah - this is one of the things I was referring to. The Committee should tell Scott to pound sand.

Why?

His letter is showing FSU has been damaged to the tune of 2million dollars.

Well Rick Scott does know a thing or two about causing millions of damages. At least 1700 of them.

 

[RCon]

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

FSU's strength of schedule is pretty similar to Michigan, no?

 

[Tom Servo]

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

FSU's strength of schedule is pretty similar to Michigan, no?

FSU was too scared to play UNLV and East Carolina.

 

[AAABatteries]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

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1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

 

[nirad3]

FSU got hosed imo

I think there’s a distinction between feeling bad for them and them getting hosed. I don’t think they got hosed based on the process but I do think they cosmically got hosed because their QB got hurt and Georgia lost to Bama.

The process?

They are a power 5 conference champion who is 13-0 in this day and age of the transfer portal and parity across the country. They have arguably the top defense in the country as well. They carried them to two wins to finish the season.

They earned the right to play for the prize. Period.

Bama.....lost to Texas who is in the dance.

It's fraudulent.

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

This.

Super happy Longhorn fan here. I'm kinda glad they're at the Sugar Bowl and not in my backyard at the Rose Bowl. I would have been tempted to try and get a ticket and that could have gotten pricey for me.

I think the Horns have a legit shot at beating UDub, and perhaps even whoever wins out in the other half of the bracket. While I could see an Alabama rematch, I think UMich will be too much for Bama. UT-Michigan it is.... Hook 'em.

 

[jm192]

Are we to believe that Georgia is no longer one of the top 4 teams in the country because they lost by 3 points in part due to questionable officiating?

By questionable officiating I'm referring to them not reviewing the Bond catch on 4th and 4, allowing Alabama to get points right before the half instead of turning the ball over on downs.

I absolutely believe Georgia is one of the 4 best teams.

So if the 2 best teams are in the NFC, should the Super Bowl be 2 teams from the NFC?

I'm not even advocating that Georgia should get in. Just that, they're one of the 4 best teams.


I think you can acknowledge that college sports and pro sports are not the same. So we shouldn't conflate the 2.
The NFL and NBA have 2 conferences. College has how many? Again. You really can't compare the 2. Sure, the pro leagues have divisions. But the divisions are still under the umbrella of each conference.

The NFL has a very structured playoff system. It's very clearly laid out how the playoffs work. The NBA has a very clearly laid out playoff structure.

College Football and basketball have committees. There are no clear cut guidelines. It's largely objective, but there is also a lot of subjective in there. If they feel their mission is to get the 4 best teams, then that's what they're going to do. If 2 of the best 4 teams are in the SEC, then those teams get to play in the playoffs.

Some people are advocating for a system that gives each Power 5 Champion a bid, and the best group of 5. If they up and decide we're going to do a bid tied to winning each conference, then cool. That's just not the current system.

My point is that it isnt/shouldnt be about the team "who look to be the best teams". It should be about the teams who have "earned the right" to play in the playoffs.

I understand you feel that way. A lot of people agree.

A lot of people think it should be the 4 best teams. The CFP committee--who is the only vote that matters--agrees with that line of thinking.

In the NFL, if you win your division, you are in the playoffs. Doesn't matter if you have a losing record. Win your division and you're in. It's clearly defined.

That doesn't exist in college. People like the idea that an undefeated conference champion gets in. But there's no where in the rules that it's an automatic bid. The agreed upon way is that the committee decides.

You have an opinion. I respect it. But a lot of people think differently. Both line of thought are ok. Bringing the NFL into it doesn't really help the argument since their post-season rules are so clearly defined and we're arguing because college football isn't doing that very thing.

 

[Tau837]

FSU got hosed imo

I think there’s a distinction between feeling bad for them and them getting hosed. I don’t think they got hosed based on the process but I do think they cosmically got hosed because their QB got hurt and Georgia lost to Bama.

The process?

They are a power 5 conference champion who is 13-0 in this day and age of the transfer portal and parity across the country. They have arguably the top defense in the country as well. They carried them to two wins to finish the season.

They earned the right to play for the prize. Period.

Bama.....lost to Texas who is in the dance.

It's fraudulent.

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

Please compare UM and FSU SoS.

Then tell me about Iowa. Then @LSU. Then Clemson and Duke.

I will just refer you to a previous post I made in this thread:

Per ESPN:

FPI:

• Michigan 1
• Alabama 5
• Texas 7
• FSU 11
• Washington 13

SOS:

• Alabama 5
• Washington 11
• Texas 13
• Michigan 33
• FSU 55

Top 25 FPI record, ordered loosely in order of impressiveness IMO:

• Washington - 5-0 - Oregon (4), Oregon (4), Oregon State (18), Arizona (22), Utah (25)
• Alabama - 5-1 - wins: Georgia (6), LSU (9), Texas A&M (14), Ole Miss (15), Tennessee (17); losses: Texas (7)
• Michigan - 2-0 - wins: Ohio State (2), Penn State (3)
• FSU - 4-0 - wins: LSU (9), Clemson (19), Louisville (23), Miami (24)
• Texas - 2-1 - wins: Alabama (5), Kansas State (12); losses: Oklahoma (8)

Taking everything into consideration, IMO FSU should have been in over Texas. But FSU's schedule obviously opened the door for the QB situation to be used against them. Too bad for FSU that (1) Clemson was down; (2) Florida was down; and (3) they didn't have Notre Dame on the schedule this season.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Why Michigan was actually upset when they heard it was Bama

 

[Jayded]

So today the transfer portal opens. It’s been a great thing for some students to improve their situation and is the best they can do for now until the whole thing blows up.

That said, teams are blowing up today. Bowl games are gonna be complete trash outside of the playoffs. But because of the timing of kids needing to be enrolled at their new school for next semester vs bowl timing, next year’s playoff expansion gets even messier.

If tOSU is in a 12 team playoff, is McCord still gone? If not, he might be stuck next year and not start in his last year of eligibility. Will definitely present weird scenarios I suspect.

 

[Instinctive]

Dillon Gabriel enters the transfer portal - didn’t see it mentioned.

Rumor here is there's mutual interest between him and Oregon. Doesn't appear as if Ty Thompson will be the immediate successor to Nix.

I don't understand transferring from OU. Wouldn't he be starting next year?

We all assumed he's following Lebby, which is how he came to OU too.

 

[Orange&Blue]

Rick Scott letter

Yeah - this is one of the things I was referring to. The Committee should tell Scott to pound sand.

Why?

His letter is showing FSU has been damaged to the tune of 2million dollars.

I’m willing to be shown wrong, but he has no authority here. Also, there’s nothing that I’m aware of that says they can’t pick any four teams they want. Should UGA be able to send the same letter?

considering these schools/states/etc get $$$ from federal government... i wouldn't be so sure.

 

[The Commish]

Why Michigan was actually upset when they heard it was Bama

Damn Skippy!!!!

 

[The Commish]

So today the transfer portal opens. It’s been a great thing for some students to improve their situation and is the best they can do for now until the whole thing blows up.

That said, teams are blowing up today. Bowl games are gonna be complete trash outside of the playoffs. But because of the timing of kids needing to be enrolled at their new school for next semester vs bowl timing, next year’s playoff expansion gets even messier.

If tOSU is in a 12 team playoff, is McCord still gone? If not, he might be stuck next year and not start in his last year of eligibility. Will definitely present weird scenarios I suspect.

Just takes a brief tour of the random OSU watering holes / hangouts and a magic 8 ball to realize the answer here is "yes". Who's going to put up with that ****?

 

[gump]

Heisman finalists: Daniels, Nix, Penix, and Harrison Jr.

 

[The Commish]

Looking at where the teams are going to be playing next year, all the top 13 are either SEC or B1G except for FSU.

 

[Jayded]

Of all of the odd things to see and happen with the transfer portal….

Tyler Buchner to transfer back to Notre Dame, but to play lacrosse.

 

[Capella]

Proving that fsu can score in national championship games, the fsu women piled up 4 goals and won the soccer title today.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Proving that fsu can score in national championship games, the fsu women piled up 4 goals and won the soccer title today.

They scored 4 goals in a 30 minute stretch in that game, while the football team scored 3 points in the first 30 minutes against Louisville.

I don't think the soccer team finding it easier to score points than the football team is quite the great argument you're going for here!

 

[Capella]

Proving that fsu can score in national championship games, the fsu women piled up 4 goals and won the soccer title today.

They scored 4 goals in a 30 minute stretch in that game, while the football team scored 3 points in the first 30 minutes against Louisville.

I don't think the soccer team finding it easier to score points than the football team is quite the great argument you're going for here!

That guy wouldn’t have been playing in the playoff dammit!

 

[mr. furley]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

i, for one, feel this accurately reflects college football.

 

[massraider]

Trevor Lawrence injured. Jags have been voted out of the playoffs.

 

[gump]

On to Michigan v Bama. Obviously I'm biased but surprised Bama is getting points. The Mich D is for real clearly. But was considering taking the points now. First one to 24? The beginning to end in-season development job Saban did was impressive. Will see if they can keep up the momentum.

 

[Anarchy99]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

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1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams

need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

Here are Jeff Sagarin’s final Top 10 using his computer model that’s been around forever:

01 - Michigan
02 - Oregon
03 - Ohio State
04 - Texas
05 - Penn State
06 - Alabama
07 - Georgia
08 - Oklahoma
09 - Washington
10 - Florida State

 

[culdeus]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams

need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

Here are Jeff Sagarin’s final Top 10 using his computer model that’s been around forever:

01 - Michigan
02 - Oregon
03 - Ohio State
04 - Texas
05 - Penn State
06 - Alabama
07 - Georgia
08 - Oklahoma
09 - Washington
10 - Florida State

What do the computers see in Ohio State to jump them over Michigan?! They give some free pass for the road loss?

 

[Anarchy99]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams

need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

Here are Jeff Sagarin’s final Top 10 using his computer model that’s been around forever:

01 - Michigan
02 - Oregon
03 - Ohio State
04 - Texas
05 - Penn State
06 - Alabama
07 - Georgia
08 - Oklahoma
09 - Washington
10 - Florida State

What do the computers see in Ohio State to jump them over Michigan?! They give some free pass for the road loss?

You lost me. Michigan is ranked #1.

 

[The Commish]

Greeny might not have a job much longer if he keeps going against his bosses. Stark contrast in commentary between those toeing the line and Greeny

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And I'll say again....fine to put out your requirements so everyone knows how you're going to pick your teams. Make that list whatever you want. Just pick the teams accordingly. Fell flat on their faces doing that. Teams picked don't match their own requirements.

 

[Sullie]

Words I have NEVER uttered in my entire life. . . . Roll Damn Tide!

Ouch, how can you? I cheered so hard for you guys against Georgia last year.

Sorry, I. . . just can't. . . no hate just a little bitterness.

I am the opposite, I root for OSU every game except that last one in November. The better they look, the better we look in comparison.

That’s the difference between Buckeye fans and Wolverine fans. Buckeye fans won’t even say or write the word Michigan, much less root for them.

As I grew up in Ohio, have lots of friends on social media who are Buckeyes fans. They either use “*” or “TTUN” (That Team Up North) to refer to Michigan. They also routinely post photos of words or businesses that start with a capital M with the “M” crossed out. Die hard Buckeyes fans will NEVER root for Michigan, even if it’s against their own interest. Just ask @Sullie. “Roll Tide” posts are littering my feed right now.

Sadly, this is true in my case, however, I am my own person, I'm not big on following the crowd and I don't speak for anyone else but I absolutely cannot root for my rival team. I never have and I never will and I don't state that proudly, just as a matter of fact. I hope and pray for them to have all the success in the world off the field and on gameday I always want them to be safe and healthy, however, I cannot root for them to win, ever. I love guys like Charles Woodson and Devin Gardner but, again, I simply cannot bring myself to root nor cheer for their team to win on gameday. Since I am so extremely childish, petty and immature, I will always root against them each and every time they take the field. The Commish is a bigger/better man than me that way, I very much appreciate fans like him but I am not going to lie and pretend I would root for them because I know that I won't. I am what I am, I will never change nor do I have any desire to change.

 

[The Commish]

Words I have NEVER uttered in my entire life. . . . Roll Damn Tide!

Ouch, how can you? I cheered so hard for you guys against Georgia last year.

Sorry, I. . . just can't. . . no hate just a little bitterness.

I am the opposite, I root for OSU every game except that last one in November. The better they look, the better we look in comparison.

That’s the difference between Buckeye fans and Wolverine fans. Buckeye fans won’t even say or write the word Michigan, much less root for them.

As I grew up in Ohio, have lots of friends on social media who are Buckeyes fans. They either use “*” or “TTUN” (That Team Up North) to refer to Michigan. They also routinely post photos of words or businesses that start with a capital M with the “M” crossed out. Die hard Buckeyes fans will NEVER root for Michigan, even if it’s against their own interest. Just ask @Sullie. “Roll Tide” posts are littering my feed right now.

Sadly, this is true in my case, however, I am my own person, I'm not big on following the crowd and I don't speak for anyone else but I absolutely cannot root for my rival team. I never have and I never will and I don't state that proudly, just as a matter of fact. I hope and pray for them to have all the success in the world off the field and on gameday I always want them to be safe and healthy, however, I cannot root for them to win, ever. I love guys like Charles Woodson and Devin Gardner but, again, I simply cannot bring myself to root nor cheer for their team to win on gameday. Since I am so extremely childish, petty and immature, I will always root against them each and every time they take the field. The Commish is a bigger/better man than me that way, I very much appreciate fans like him but I am not going to lie and pretend I would root for them because I know that I won't. I am what I am, I will never change nor do I have any desire to change.

You're mistaken GB though I appreciate the benefit of the doubt. I'm never rooting for OSU

And I'll say this too for some perspective. Most fans in the B1G have their identity in their school. That's different here in the south. For most in the B1G, there is no allegiance to conference. It's to the team, everyone else be damned. This is why a lot of people will have problems getting on the same page with fans of B1G schools. We find it bizarre that individual team success is then translated/calculated into conference success. Sure, it's fine to say that conference X has several really good teams. Where we don't go then is saying the conference is really good because we all know if we start digging around in conferences you're going to see some pretty terrible and embarrassing losses. Think ASU beating Michigan all those years back. Does that mean "the conference" sucks? Of course not, it means Michigan crapped the bed.

 

[AAABatteries]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams

need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

Here are Jeff Sagarin’s final Top 10 using his computer model that’s been around forever:

01 - Michigan
02 - Oregon
03 - Ohio State
04 - Texas
05 - Penn State
06 - Alabama
07 - Georgia
08 - Oklahoma
09 - Washington
10 - Florida State

There's no doubt the B1G is one of the 3 best conferences this year but I don't see what they've done to make it obviously #1 - which is what this ranking suggests. I don't normally say this but is this a result of the OSU win over Notre Dame? Isn't that their best out of conference victory? I don't get it.

 

[3C's]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams

need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

Here are Jeff Sagarin’s final Top 10 using his computer model that’s been around forever:

01 - Michigan
02 - Oregon
03 - Ohio State
04 - Texas
05 - Penn State
06 - Alabama
07 - Georgia
08 - Oklahoma
09 - Washington
10 - Florida State

Seems like his computer dropped a few bits in the process, specifically the 2 losses by Oregon to Washington. Washington undefeated and beat Oregon twice yet ranked below them? Seems...wrong.

 

[Summer Wheat]

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

FSU's strength of schedule is pretty similar to Michigan, no?

FSU was too scared to play UNLV and East Carolina.

My brother in law lives in Columbus and says 24 is the year. Check out Ohio States early cupcake first 4 games next season. Teams don`t want to risk an early loss

Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall, Michigan State, then Iowa at home. Iowa has a very tough D but can`t score. 5-0 start.

They don`t play anyone until mid-season and only have Oregon and Michigan. They split those game and have an easy playoff spot.

 

[Anarchy99]

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

FSU's strength of schedule is pretty similar to Michigan, no?

FSU was too scared to play UNLV and East Carolina.

My brother in law lives in Columbus and says 24 is the year. Check out Ohio States early cupcake first 4 games next season. Teams don`t want to risk an early loss

Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall, Michigan State, then Iowa at home. Iowa has a very tough D but can`t score. 5-0 start.

They don`t play anyone until mid-season and only have Oregon and Michigan. They split those game and have an easy playoff spot.

Ohio State does not currently have a QB, so hard to really have high expectations at the moment.

 

[Summer Wheat]

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

FSU's strength of schedule is pretty similar to Michigan, no?

FSU was too scared to play UNLV and East Carolina.

My brother in law lives in Columbus and says 24 is the year. Check out Ohio States early cupcake first 4 games next season. Teams don`t want to risk an early loss

Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall, Michigan State, then Iowa at home. Iowa has a very tough D but can`t score. 5-0 start.

They don`t play anyone until mid-season and only have Oregon and Michigan. They split those game and have an easy playoff spot.

Ohio State does not currently have a QB, so hard to really have high expectations at the moment.

Lets see what the backup does in the bowl game. My BIL likes him better than McCord.

McCord himself will end up in a better situation, tough on kids when going 11-1 is a failure.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Ohio state will buy a qb in the portal. Does anyone disagree?

 

[The Commish]

Is OSU really losing two 5* and 7 4* to the portal?

 

[Beef Ravioli Part 2]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams

need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

Here are Jeff Sagarin’s final Top 10 using his computer model that’s been around forever:

01 - Michigan
02 - Oregon
03 - Ohio State
04 - Texas
05 - Penn State
06 - Alabama
07 - Georgia
08 - Oklahoma
09 - Washington
10 - Florida State

His computer must have crashed if Oregon is 2 and Washington is 9. Most of the list doesn’t make sense. Was this preseason rankings?

 

[Peak]

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

FSU's strength of schedule is pretty similar to Michigan, no?

FSU was too scared to play UNLV and East Carolina.

My brother in law lives in Columbus and says 24 is the year. Check out Ohio States early cupcake first 4 games next season. Teams don`t want to risk an early loss

Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall, Michigan State, then Iowa at home. Iowa has a very tough D but can`t score. 5-0 start.

They don`t play anyone until mid-season and only have Oregon and Michigan. They split those game and have an easy playoff spot.

Ohio State does not currently have a QB, so hard to really have high expectations at the moment.

Lets see what the backup does in the bowl game. My BIL likes him better than McCord.

McCord himself will end up in a better situation, tough on kids when going 11-1 is a failure.

Devin Brown couldn't beat McCord for the starting job, and when he got playing time it was mainly to run. His passes were not that good, and made McCord look much better.
Kleinholz may get some playing time, but he's still a true freshman. I'm not sure he'll be ready to start next year - maybe in 2025.
With that said, if OSU gets a QB from the portal, you can guarantee that Brown would likely leave - maybe Kleinholz too?

 

[Peak]

Is OSU really losing two 5* and 7 4* to the portal?

I wouldn't rank McCord a 5*....I think he got that rating thanks to some help from Harrison Jr back in HS.

 

[Beef Ravioli Part 2]

Is OSU really losing two 5* and 7 4* to the portal?

From the current team or recruiting?

If the current team, the two five stars are McCord (qb) and Fleming (wr). I think Fleming is a bigger loss than McCord. Fleming has one year of eligibility left. He is a great blocker and team player but never developed into the top tier wr. Probably be a #1 wr at a smaller school/conference.

Most of their losses were guys that were trapped in the back of the depth chart.

Rumor is that McCord and his dad wanted a gurantee from Day that he was the starter next year. Day would not commit to that and he decided to enter the portal.

 

[Anarchy99]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams

need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

Here are Jeff Sagarin’s final Top 10 using his computer model that’s been around forever:

01 - Michigan
02 - Oregon
03 - Ohio State
04 - Texas
05 - Penn State
06 - Alabama
07 - Georgia
08 - Oklahoma
09 - Washington
10 - Florida State

His computer must have crashed if Oregon is 2 and Washington is 9. Most of the list doesn’t make sense. Was this preseason rankings?

FINAL regular season rankings.

I am not providing an opinion on the rankings, only that different criteria will yield a list with different results.

 

[Tom Servo]

BREAKING: NCAA president proposes new subdivision.
@TheIronSheik’s Super Elite Upper Tier has arrived.

 

[Mile High]

Doesn't seem like much need to recruit a QB from the high school ranks. Just buy one off the portal list.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Just be thankful they don’t use ESPN’s FPI to determine the playoff.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Oregon

Good lord - lot of teams

need to have their senators write a letter apparently.

Here are Jeff Sagarin’s final Top 10 using his computer model that’s been around forever:

01 - Michigan
02 - Oregon
03 - Ohio State
04 - Texas
05 - Penn State
06 - Alabama
07 - Georgia
08 - Oklahoma
09 - Washington
10 - Florida State

His computer must have crashed if Oregon is 2 and Washington is 9. Most of the list doesn’t make sense. Was this preseason rankings?

Yeah this makes absolutely zero sense, considering they had basically the exact same schedule, but Washington then beat Oregon twice. And it's not even like Oregon is barely ahead. #2 vs #9.

Washington even has the toughest out of conference game. AND Oregon played an FCS team.

Bizarre.

 

[gump]

BREAKING: NCAA president proposes new subdivision.
@TheIronSheik’s Super Elite Upper Tier has arrived.

Will be interesting to see if any P5 schools don’t opt in…Vandy, NW..? Maybe too much profit still hanging in.