2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (3 Viewers)

[Joe Bryant]

Norvell is staying. Bama may need to hire Mike Shula again.

Interesting.

TheOsceola - Head coach Mike Norvell staying at FSU, not taking Alabama job

Head coach Mike Norvell will be staying at FSU and not be taking the Alabama job, he announced Friday afternoon.

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Jimmy Sexton is unbeaten. Norvell deserved a raise but geez.

Jimmy has to make up for that lost income from Saban somehow!

https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1745857125170249865?s=20

 

[The Commish]

FSU must feel pretty good about getting out of the ACC...going to the B1G or the SEC will make that increase an easy one to absorb.

 

[Capella]

If Kalen DeBoer tweets out “Dub up!” Or “we’re just getting started” or the Leo Wolf of Wall Street meme we may have a full-on Bama meltdown on our hands here. Take a look at Schiano?

 

[whoknew]

These agents are awesome. Float out that your client is a leading candidate for the job opening. Turn that into a huge raise for your client.

 

[jm192]

I think Arch Manning transfers to Bama and Kiffin coaches him to a Heisman.

Hoo baby that would be an easy team to hate

Unless you're an Alabama fan.

Or a college football fan in general. How much fun would that be to watch?

Agreed. As a UT fan, I have a vested interest in Alabama not being dominant. But that would be fascinating to watch.

Kiffin to Alabama would be bad news for the rest of college football. He's already dangerous enough with the limited resources at Ole Miss.

I am here in Birmingham and as I walk around work the taking heads on radio here are hysterical/apocalyptic.

I hate sports radio, but the screeching is extra unbearable today. I hope they find someone soon just to shut these pundits up.

Is there any consensus among Alabama fans as to who they want?

My top choice was Lanning. He is young, he learned under Saban and Smart, and he's familiar with the territory. I think he's going to be a great coach where ever he is.

Lane grew on me during his time at Alabama. He is a fantastic offensive mind, but he feels a little "loosey goosey" to be the head man. He's also young even though he's been in the game for years. If we are going for a former assistant/offensive genius, I'd rather have Sark. Not sure it makes sense for him to leave Texas for Alabama.

Do not want Dabo. I loved him as a player and his early Clemson career but his stance on the NIL and transfer portal make him a relic. He's also very much a CEO head coach who is dependent on his assistants.

DeBoer would be interesting but I just honestly don't know much about him. I'm not sure how James Franklin's name came up in this.

The AD has put enormous pressure on himself by saying he would name someone within 72 hours. If he thought Lanning was a lock, this thing could spiral badly.

Sark and Lane are the same age. Sark just acts a little more his age. Lane seems to be having fun - he's terrific on Twitter. Both are terrific offensive minds.

Just feels like Lane is more "gettable" than Sark. Especially with what Sark just did at Texas (which is much a football royalty program as Bama historically, though not as much recently until now).

Agree with this.

I think those 2 are the guys that make the most sense. I'm guessing, but I would be surprised to see Sark leave.

I think DeBoer would be my 3rd choice.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

If Kalen DeBoer tweets out “Dub up!” Or “we’re just getting started” or the Leo Wolf of Wall Street meme we may have a full-on Bama meltdown on our hands here. Take a look at Schiano?

Maybe James Franklin is a candidate after all

 

[jm192]

I think Arch Manning transfers to Bama and Kiffin coaches him to a Heisman.

Hoo baby that would be an easy team to hate

Unless you're an Alabama fan.

Or a college football fan in general. How much fun would that be to watch?

Agreed. As a UT fan, I have a vested interest in Alabama not being dominant. But that would be fascinating to watch.

Kiffin to Alabama would be bad news for the rest of college football. He's already dangerous enough with the limited resources at Ole Miss.

I am here in Birmingham and as I walk around work the taking heads on radio here are hysterical/apocalyptic.

I hate sports radio, but the screeching is extra unbearable today. I hope they find someone soon just to shut these pundits up.

Is there any consensus among Alabama fans as to who they want?

My top choice was Lanning. He is young, he learned under Saban and Smart, and he's familiar with the territory. I think he's going to be a great coach where ever he is.

Lane grew on me during his time at Alabama. He is a fantastic offensive mind, but he feels a little "loosey goosey" to be the head man. He's also young even though he's been in the game for years. If we are going for a former assistant/offensive genius, I'd rather have Sark. Not sure it makes sense for him to leave Texas for Alabama.

Do not want Dabo. I loved him as a player and his early Clemson career but his stance on the NIL and transfer portal make him a relic. He's also very much a CEO head coach who is dependent on his assistants.

DeBoer would be interesting but I just honestly don't know much about him. I'm not sure how James Franklin's name came up in this.

The AD has put enormous pressure on himself by saying he would name someone within 72 hours. If he thought Lanning was a lock, this thing could spiral badly.

I agree with not wanting Dabo. I think elite recruits are going to shy away from him because of the NIL stance.

 

[Capella]

These agents are awesome. Float out that your client is a leading candidate for the job opening. Turn that into a huge raise for your client.

The game is the game. Been this way forever.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Looks like it’s DeBoer.

 

[Phil Elliott]

ESPN reporting DeBoer negotiating with Alabama.

 

[Schmeabs]

Bummer

 

[General Malaise]

So who does Washington go get?

 

[Schmeabs]

So who does Washington go get?

I hope it isn't Jedd Fisch

 

[whoknew]

So who does Washington go get?

If Harbaugh stays, Sherrone Moore?

 

[General Malaise]

So who does Washington go get?

I hope it isn't Jedd Fisch

x2

 

[Phil Elliott]

Looks like Saban is responsible for lots of coaching contract extensions today.

 

[Capella]

I dunno about this hire. No southern ties. Not a good recruiter to begin with. I guess they are just going to try and use the Bama name but it’s not Bama it was Saban. Feels very Brian Harsin-y.

 

[Corporation]

I dunno about this hire. No southern ties. Not a good recruiter to begin with. I guess they are just going to try and use the Bama name but it’s not Bama it was Saban. Feels very Brian Harsin-y.

This is my exact fear. Would have rather had Lane.

 

[need2know]

I dunno about this hire. No southern ties. Not a good recruiter to begin with. I guess they are just going to try and use the Bama name but it’s not Bama it was Saban. Feels very Brian Harsin-y.

Don't have to recruit. NIL. Whoever pays Gets thr best players.
Guy is an elite playcaller and offensive mind.
Hes won everywhere he's been. Like 25-3
at washington? 5-0 VS sark and Lanning in the past 2 seasons.
I like it

 

[Capella]

I dunno about this hire. No southern ties. Not a good recruiter to begin with. I guess they are just going to try and use the Bama name but it’s not Bama it was Saban. Feels very Brian Harsin-y.

Don't have to recruit. NIL. Whoever pays Gets thr best players.
Guy is an elite playcaller and offensive mind. I like it

Article I read today said Bama’s NIL is way behind others since they just rode the Saban train.

And you definitely have to recruit with NIL. You have to recruit more and better than ever.

 

[jm192]

I think it's a smart hire. He was like my #3 "makes the most sense" guy.

I Think Kiffin has had amazing success turning Ole Miss around. He has Alabama ties
Sark had Texas in the playoffs. He's turning them into a premier program again. He has Alabama ties.

DeBoer is white hot right now. He just took WASHINGTON to the National Championship game. That's a feat. He doesn't have anywhere near the resources he would have at Alabama. People are saying he doesn't recruit well. He'll recruit a lot better at Alabama. He'll have a lot more NIL support as well.

 

[need2know]

I dunno about this hire. No southern ties. Not a good recruiter to begin with. I guess they are just going to try and use the Bama name but it’s not Bama it was Saban. Feels very Brian Harsin-y.

Don't have to recruit. NIL. Whoever pays Gets thr best players.
Guy is an elite playcaller and offensive mind. I like it

Article I read today said Bama’s NIL is way behind others since they just rode the Saban train.

And you definitely have to recruit with NIL. You have to recruit more and better than ever.

Doesn't mean it can't get better. It kinda has to now. But it would have had to even if Saban has stayed

 

[need2know]

I think it's a smart hire. He was like my #3 "makes the most sense" guy.

I Think Kiffin has had amazing success turning Ole Miss around. He has Alabama ties
Sark had Texas in the playoffs. He's turning them into a premier program again. He has Alabama ties.

DeBoer is white hot right now. He just took WASHINGTON to the National Championship game. That's a feat. He doesn't have anywhere near the resources he would have at Alabama. People are saying he doesn't recruit well. He'll recruit a lot better at Alabama. He'll have a lot more NIL support as well.

Worst case if Deboer doesn't work out they can always try lane or sark again in 3 to 5 years

 

[jm192]

I dunno about this hire. No southern ties. Not a good recruiter to begin with. I guess they are just going to try and use the Bama name but it’s not Bama it was Saban. Feels very Brian Harsin-y.

Don't have to recruit. NIL. Whoever pays Gets thr best players.
Guy is an elite playcaller and offensive mind. I like it

Article I read today said Bama’s NIL is way behind others since they just rode the Saban train.

And you definitely have to recruit with NIL. You have to recruit more and better than ever.

Even if this is true:

Alabama is THE college football program. Their fans care as much if not more than any other program. They'll fix the NIL issue real quick if one exists.

DeBoer maybe couldn't recruit at an elite level at Washington. It's Washington. But he'll get a HUGE recruiting boost at Alabama. Kids wanted to play for Saban, sure. But kids will also want to play for Alabama.

He's a great offensive mind. Kids will want to play for a good offensive coach at one of the premier college football programs.

 

[Capella]

Alabama is THE college football program.

They were until 2 days ago. He left.

Not saying this won’t work. He’s a great coach. Just saying it’s not turnkey.

 

[need2know]

Alabama is THE college football program.

They were until 2 days ago. He left.

Not saying this won’t work. He’s a great coach. Just saying it’s not turnkey.

I agree it's not automatic. But it's a good gamble

 

[jm192]

I think it's a smart hire. He was like my #3 "makes the most sense" guy.

I Think Kiffin has had amazing success turning Ole Miss around. He has Alabama ties
Sark had Texas in the playoffs. He's turning them into a premier program again. He has Alabama ties.

DeBoer is white hot right now. He just took WASHINGTON to the National Championship game. That's a feat. He doesn't have anywhere near the resources he would have at Alabama. People are saying he doesn't recruit well. He'll recruit a lot better at Alabama. He'll have a lot more NIL support as well.

Worst case if Deboer doesn't work out they can always try lane or sark again in 3 to 5 years

I assume Lanning is playing that game. I think there's a good chance the next guy fails and Lanning is young enough to wait.

 

[Jayded]

The biggest problem the next Alabama coach has is what's building around them. Lord knows I'm not a Kelly fan, but he did quickly realize he needed to secure LA. Sark has largely locked down Texas. Smart's biggest reason for winning has been the ability to secure the top local talent from GA first. Alabama itself isn't the talent rich bed and Saban was a huge draw that is now absent. DeBoer, if he's the guy, might benefit from a lacking Florida program, though FSU might hold more serve vs. Bama given Norvell's turnaround of the program, and then he will truly have to do what people say is not his forte.

 

[General Malaise]

Whatever happened to Tom Herman? Man, that guy was white hot for a minute or two. I haven't heard is name in years.

 

[jm192]

Alabama is THE college football program.

They were until 2 days ago. He left.

Not saying this won’t work. He’s a great coach. Just saying it’s not turnkey.

Alabama is a lot more than Nick Saban. He brought them back to dominance. But they have a long history of winning championships. Depending on the source, they claim 16-18 National Championships.

I'm not saying it's a slam dunk that DeBoer succeeds. But I do think he'll be able to recruit a lot better at Alabama.

Look at Duke Basketball. Coach K left. They're still getting elite recruits left and right. Whether or not Scheyer can turn that into winning championships remains to be seen.

I absolutely think there's a world in which DeBoer has multiple 10 win seasons and no championships and is run out of town. He could also win 7-8 and be sent packing in a year or 2.

 

[Capella]

But they have a long history of winning championships. Depending on the source, they claim 16-18 National Championships.

Yea, uhhh. Some of those are a bit sketchy, and also before integration. Who cares.

 

[Capella]

Look at Duke Basketball. Coach K left. They're still getting elite recruits left and right. Whether or not Scheyer can turn that into winning championships remains to be seen.

Scheyer was a Duke asst for many years, a former player and very clearly a huge part of the program. Not really the same thing at all.

 

[Capella]

Alabama is THE college football program.

They were until 2 days ago. He left.

Not saying this won’t work. He’s a great coach. Just saying it’s not turnkey.

I agree it's not automatic. But it's a good gamble

For sure. I just think some younger fans are in for a surprise when Bama isn’t a lock every week.

 

[tri-man 47]

Certainly not much left to work with at Washington - losing Penix and the talented receivers, many other starters, and already several players in the transfer portal.

I just saw that WR Isaiah Bond is transferring out of Bama.

 

[Joe Bryant]

These agents are awesome. Float out that your client is a leading candidate for the job opening. Turn that into a huge raise for your client.

And even better when you're the agent that represents most of them.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I dunno about this hire. No southern ties. Not a good recruiter to begin with. I guess they are just going to try and use the Bama name but it’s not Bama it was Saban. Feels very Brian Harsin-y.

Don't have to recruit. NIL. Whoever pays Gets thr best players.
Guy is an elite playcaller and offensive mind. I like it

Article I read today said Bama’s NIL is way behind others since they just rode the Saban train.

And you definitely have to recruit with NIL. You have to recruit more and better than ever.

Thanks. I've wondered about that. Do you have the link?

 

[jm192]

Look at Duke Basketball. Coach K left. They're still getting elite recruits left and right. Whether or not Scheyer can turn that into winning championships remains to be seen.

Scheyer was a Duke asst for many years, a former player and very clearly a huge part of the program. Not really the same thing at all.

I’m not saying they’re exactly the same.

I’m saying people thought Duke’s recruiting might slip after losing one of the greatest coaches ever.

The same as you’re saying Bama may slip after losing one of the greatest coaches ever.

Duke basketball is a mega brand. Scheyer benefits from that. If Scheyer were at Clemson, he would not be recruiting as well.

Alabama Football is a mega brand. DeBoer will recruit better because of it.

 

[hagmania]

It's a gamble for both DeBoer and Alabama. It was consensus upthread that everyone wants the job after the guy that replaces Saban.

If Bama wants Lanning, probably going to be after DeBoer flames out in 4 years.

 

[hagmania]

I agree with others though that the best chance at continuing success directly after Saban would have been Kiffin.

 

[jb1020]

I agree with others though that the best chance at continuing success directly after Saban would have been Kiffin.

I would love to know the details, but I'm pretty shocked it wasn't Kiffin. Seemed like the ideal candidate.

 

[General Malaise]

It's a gamble for both DeBoer and Alabama. It was consensus upthread that everyone wants the job after the guy that replaces Saban.

If Bama wants Lanning, probably going to be after DeBoer flames out in 4 years.

Bama is going to hire the guy DeBoer beat three times in two years?

 

[gump]

Article I read today said Bama’s NIL is way behind others since they just rode the Saban train.

And you definitely have to recruit with NIL. You have to recruit more and better than ever.

Bama isn't the richest fanbase by any stretch...there is no Billionaire booster. But they're at the forefront of NIL strategy. Fanatics has built an NIL shop in the stadium for example, partnering with products like Topps trading cards...the only one in the country. And there is an entire department dedicated to optimizing the brands of their athletes. Saban's development record provided a foundation that supported NIL$ and will now be in question...but the program's commitment to development won't erode much.

 

[Capella]

I dunno about this hire. No southern ties. Not a good recruiter to begin with. I guess they are just going to try and use the Bama name but it’s not Bama it was Saban. Feels very Brian Harsin-y.

Don't have to recruit. NIL. Whoever pays Gets thr best players.
Guy is an elite playcaller and offensive mind. I like it

Article I read today said Bama’s NIL is way behind others since they just rode the Saban train.

And you definitely have to recruit with NIL. You have to recruit more and better than ever.

Thanks. I've wondered about that. Do you have the link?

I will look for it but flipped through a lot of stuff today.

 

[gump]

I agree with others though that the best chance at continuing success directly after Saban would have been Kiffin.

I would love to know the details, but I'm pretty shocked it wasn't Kiffin. Seemed like the ideal candidate.

He wasn't a candidate...too many bridges burned in Ttown.

 

[General Malaise]

I agree with others though that the best chance at continuing success directly after Saban would have been Kiffin.

I would love to know the details, but I'm pretty shocked it wasn't Kiffin. Seemed like the ideal candidate.

Didn't his time at Alabama end in less than pleasant circumstances? I seem to recall some animosity between Saban and Kiffin and he was let go before the Championship game, right?

 

[General Malaise]

I agree with others though that the best chance at continuing success directly after Saban would have been Kiffin.

I would love to know the details, but I'm pretty shocked it wasn't Kiffin. Seemed like the ideal candidate.

He wasn't a candidate...too many bridges burned in Ttown.

That's what I seemed to remember. Though not yesterday when I was all about Kiffin getting that gig!

 

[Capella]

DuBose
DeBoer
Dabo…?

 

[gump]

DuBose
DeBoer
Dabo…?

We have a real challenge with the fanbases spelling and pronunciation of DeBoer...

 

[hagmania]

It's a gamble for both DeBoer and Alabama. It was consensus upthread that everyone wants the job after the guy that replaces Saban.

If Bama wants Lanning, probably going to be after DeBoer flames out in 4 years.

Bama is going to hire the guy DeBoer beat three times in two years?

 

[massraider]

That moved really fast.