rockaction
Footballguy
That's sort of true. In the NFL with an aging roster, you need a Plan B at QB and the Plan B was Jimmy G, which means it was a front office failure.
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That's sort of true. In the NFL with an aging roster, you need a Plan B at QB and the Plan B was Jimmy G, which means it was a front office failure.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Correct. And in some areas, the red zone, carr is below average.
massraider
Footballguy
Bears traded for Montez Sweat.
2nd round pick. I would have liked that move.
2nd round pick. I would have liked that move.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
The a Raiders need to be selling, not buying. I watched ten minutes of the game last night. It is Maxx and then just boring on both sides of the ball. I don’t know how you guys sit through entire games.
joey
Footballguy
I DVR the game and usually start watching an hour or two after it starts, and I fast forward through multiple sections. It’s the only way for me to make it through the torture.
I will say that LaPorta and Mad Maxx combined to give me 30.2!!!!!!!! Points last night to lead me to an unlikely victory in my auction redraft IDP fantasy league! Now THAT’S the more important stuff for me these days, much more so than rooting for some laundry for a team that hasn’t given me much back In ages.
This… Unless they’re trading for Mahomes or Allen (I know, not feasible, just examples) there’s no point in trading for anything but draft picks.
They should put Davante out of his misery and try to get a 1st rounder for him so they have ammo to draft any QB they want.
ICON211
Footballguy
I would have liked that as well if he also signed an extension. I suppose Bears could franchise tag him or sign him to an extension later. Can't be a team not in contention and give up a 2 then have the guy walk in FA.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Jimmy G is worse than my lowest expectations. That is depressing.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
24 yr old I believe? a 3rd? geez...
Build or sell the freaking house, farm and animals at this point... just do something.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
I know the trade deadline has passed, but the Raiders needed to bench Jimmy G or trade Adams. They are doing him dirty. The combination of an inept QB + inept coach is doping something the NFL has not been able to do for multiple years = stop D Adams.
Pathetic.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
The team is so far out of its league in the NFL. I don’t see how this gets better any time soon. There just doesn’t seem like there is no ambition to build a team and win.
ICON211
Footballguy
The team has been bad, sometimes really bad, for two decades, but I have never thought there was no ambition to try to win. They traded for Adams, ownership will pay up to get a coach they think will turn things around. The results haven't been there, but it's not for lack of trying.
massraider
Footballguy
The Jets game November 11 will not be flexed out of Sunday night, as the NFL has wisely decided you cannot do better than this in Prime Time. 
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LawFitz
Footballguy
Wholly/Holy ****. I can only hope that this is Mork listening to his leaders (Adams, Maxx) and not blowing a gasket. I wanted McDobnalds gone more than anyone here, but not under this circumstance, unless it was Devante and Maximus making the call.
(I was okay with just Grop seeing the ax man, for now)
(I was okay with just Grop seeing the ax man, for now)
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Wow. I didn’t think he’d do it while they were under contract. WOW!
LawFitz
Footballguy
Vegas sells out regardless, and with the highest ticket prices in the league by far and away. Davis went from outhouse to penthouse and has zero kids. He is playing with eff you money and I respect that he's not a ***** with it.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Thank god. This team was horrible even with decent talent on O. Jimmy G was not that talent and needs cut. I can throw a football with more zip than the pretty boy. Start the rookie the rest of the year and instruct him not to play scared. Sling the ball all over the field and add some excitement to the O even if the kid throws 3 picks a game. Make the games fun and get away from the O that has been a snooze fest so far this season.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
The continuous changing of GM and coaching must stop but that requires Davis tonite wisely and not hire “names” and instead hire innovative and hungry leaders with a plan.i hate that we keep changing GM and coaching staffs every couple of years. No consistency at all.
that said, I’m very happy with this move. Bring back Bassacia!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
It started when he ran Alex Leatherwood out as the #17 pick overall the season prior to his arrvial. Now i'm not saying Leatherwood was a good Tackle but it was a direct slap in the face to the owners and FO, the Raiders should not have allowed him to do it with such gustoi hate that we keep changing GM and coaching staffs every couple of years. No consistency at all.
that said, I’m very happy with this move. Bring back Bassacia!
-McDaniels wanted to run a dictatorship, he does not have good relationships with his players and it shows.
-He ran Carr out, i don't think Carr is an outstanding QB but he was better than Jimmy G in a Raiders uniform.
-Calling Davis as Mork is an insult to Robin Williams
-Davis looks more like an extra from the movie set Mississippi Burning and I'll leave it at that
ZADO
Footballguy
Yes please
Bisaccia posted a 7-5 record while in charge of the Raiders following Jon Gruden's abrupt dismissal due to a workplace misconduct scandal. He earned the respect of the locker room quickly and appeared to be the preferred choice of the team's players — and notably, Josh Jacobs — before McDaniels was tapped as Gruden's full-time successor.
If Davis believes he made an error, he could try to rectify it by hiring Bisaccia, 63, as the full-time coach now. He has been a solid special teams coordinator with the Packers since the Raiders opted not to hire him, and his familiarity with some of the roster could help to give the team a chemistry boost after a few trying seasons.
Would Bisaccia be willing to return to the Raiders in such a capacity? That remains unclear, but there are only 32 NFL head coaching jobs; thus, he may be willing to take this on given his familiarity with the organization.
Rich Bisaccia
Bisaccia posted a 7-5 record while in charge of the Raiders following Jon Gruden's abrupt dismissal due to a workplace misconduct scandal. He earned the respect of the locker room quickly and appeared to be the preferred choice of the team's players — and notably, Josh Jacobs — before McDaniels was tapped as Gruden's full-time successor.
If Davis believes he made an error, he could try to rectify it by hiring Bisaccia, 63, as the full-time coach now. He has been a solid special teams coordinator with the Packers since the Raiders opted not to hire him, and his familiarity with some of the roster could help to give the team a chemistry boost after a few trying seasons.
Would Bisaccia be willing to return to the Raiders in such a capacity? That remains unclear, but there are only 32 NFL head coaching jobs; thus, he may be willing to take this on given his familiarity with the organization.
No more retreads! Who’s Mike McDaniel’s OC? Someone from the Shanahan tree? No more big names and talking heads from TV. Get us an up and comer with innovative coaching philosophies and some energy. Oh yeah, make sure Grop never starts for the Raiders again, what a disaster.
Unfortunately, this will be another full rebuild as the Raiders house is riddled with McD’s people right now.
ICON211
Footballguy
Pierce has been named interim coach. I doubt Bisaccia was even an option right now since he's the Packers special teams coach.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
MAXX and Jacobs were HUGE Bisaccia guys. Saw Maxx and Rich have a long chat after Packers game.
Which players led the meeting that happened last week
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Ben Johnson. Seems unlikely but if Saleh or Mike McDaniels are let go. Was also a fan of what Coach Bisaccia did and the players love him
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Champ Kelly takes over at GM. I would put money on him winning the job permanently.
ZADO
Footballguy
MEET THE NEW COACH
The Las Vegas Raiders have named Antonio Pierce as the Interim Head Coach.
Pierce is in his second season as linebackers coach the Las Vegas Raiders, has seven years of coaching experience, and nine years of NFL playing experience. Before joining the Raiders, Pierce spent five seasons at Arizona State serving as linebackers coach before adding the titles of associate head coach and defensive coordinator.
The Las Vegas Raiders are committed to undergo a comprehensive search for a head coach once the season is complete.
MEET THE NEW GM
The Las Vegas Raiders have named Champ Kelly as the Interim General Manager.
Kelly is in his second season as Assistant General Manager with the Raiders. Prior to joining the Raiders, Kelly spent seven seasons in personnel and scouting with the Chicago Bears and eight seasons with the Denver Broncos. In his NFL career, his teams have won five division titles, one conference championship, appeared in Super Bowl XLVIII, and to date, players have earned a combined 58 Pro Bowl nominations and six Hall of Fame enshrinements.
The Las Vegas Raiders are committed to undergo a comprehensive search for a general manager once the season is complete.
The Las Vegas Raiders have named Antonio Pierce as the Interim Head Coach.
Pierce is in his second season as linebackers coach the Las Vegas Raiders, has seven years of coaching experience, and nine years of NFL playing experience. Before joining the Raiders, Pierce spent five seasons at Arizona State serving as linebackers coach before adding the titles of associate head coach and defensive coordinator.
The Las Vegas Raiders are committed to undergo a comprehensive search for a head coach once the season is complete.
MEET THE NEW GM
The Las Vegas Raiders have named Champ Kelly as the Interim General Manager.
Kelly is in his second season as Assistant General Manager with the Raiders. Prior to joining the Raiders, Kelly spent seven seasons in personnel and scouting with the Chicago Bears and eight seasons with the Denver Broncos. In his NFL career, his teams have won five division titles, one conference championship, appeared in Super Bowl XLVIII, and to date, players have earned a combined 58 Pro Bowl nominations and six Hall of Fame enshrinements.
The Las Vegas Raiders are committed to undergo a comprehensive search for a general manager once the season is complete.
does a GM even matter in Vegas? I’m curious if they have any say or if Mark calls all the shots like his dad did.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
7 seasons with scouting and personnel for the Bears? Sounds like a perfect fit for the Raiders, lol.
I was under the impression Davis gave McD and Ziegler full control over team operations. He’s stated publicly in the past he doesn’t know football like his father did. I will say I wouldn’t be surprised if he Davis ordered them to pass on Carter because of the Ruggs tragedy and take Wilson instead.
Hopefully Champ had no say in that decision at all.
Balco
Footballguy
If Davante had a role in getting McDaniels fired that is definitely a plausible scenario. They need to see what they have, starting Hoyer and Garrapolo does nothing.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Early Al would not have passed on Carter. Al wasn’t afraid to bring on trouble. Just Win Baby. It’s not “Worry about what the media thinks and bring in lesser talent”. And Unlike another poster, still don’t believe the Raiders are purposely drafting inferior talent so they can draft the good players years from now.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Lombardi gone now too
Who is left to OC?
Who is left to OC?
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Fired.
kaso
Footballguy
Such a great morning. So happy Josh is out....
I am surprised that Ziegler is gone, figured he would have had a shot with a 2nd HC. But who knows how that transpired behind closed doors. Ziegler may have fought too hard to try to keep Josh around. We will never know.
i'm not for rapid changes, and would rather have consistency at key spots within the organization, but I'd rather have change than poor results consistently.
I do think the players meeting had a role in this. But I also have a hunch that past Raiders voicing their concern likely helped Mark make the decision. If Woodson is publicly tweeting his displeasure, you know he is talking to Mark too.
I am surprised that Ziegler is gone, figured he would have had a shot with a 2nd HC. But who knows how that transpired behind closed doors. Ziegler may have fought too hard to try to keep Josh around. We will never know.
i'm not for rapid changes, and would rather have consistency at key spots within the organization, but I'd rather have change than poor results consistently.
I do think the players meeting had a role in this. But I also have a hunch that past Raiders voicing their concern likely helped Mark make the decision. If Woodson is publicly tweeting his displeasure, you know he is talking to Mark too.
Davante?
ZADO
Footballguy
Tim Brown has voiced his displeasure also.
kaso
Footballguy
I'm guessing you're referring to the scene from The Gambler w/ Jon Goodman describing the 'position of eff you'... which is such a great scene!
massraider
Footballguy
I just assume Super Trooper will run the offense from the field. Be surprised at this point if he's not an offensive gamelan genius.Davante?
massraider
Footballguy
Jim Harbaugh being mentioned as a candidate because the world hates us
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