2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end. (1 Viewer)

[DJackson10]

The bolded is why I laugh whenever I read that Team X has taken player "Y" off their draft board, or that there's a lot of chatter the Eagles are going to take Bijan at 10.​

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Eagles GM Howie Roseman playing 'poker' ahead of draft: 'Nobody has any idea what we're going to do'​

The weeks leading up to the NFL draft are filled with lies, false flags and shell games as clubs try to jockey for positioning.
Amid the fibs told during each club's pre-draft press conference, Eagles general manager Howie Roseman offered the most honest quote of lying season.
"This is a huge game of poker, and all you want to affect is the outcome of your desired results," Roseman said Thursday. "Am I going to give you guys any answers today? No, not even a little bit. But I think the reality of it is anyone who's sitting there and saying, 'Hey, I know exactly what's going to happen at pick 11 or pick 12 or pick 6 or 20, it's all a guess."
Take everything said before April 27 with a giant heaping of salt. It behooves no club to be transparent about its plans and process. Even the Carolina Panthers sitting at No. 1 overall are playing coy with their decision.
With picks 10 and 30, the Eagles could be movers and shakers come next Thursday, especially given Roseman's propensity for draft-day trades.
"Nobody has any idea what we're going to do. I know that," he said, noting that anyone claiming they know what a team might do is probably getting played.

Roseman noted that the disparate personalities leading each franchise are what makes the draft such a wild ride, with player grades varying wildly from team to team.
"The things that we're seeing that we think are so clear and so transparent to another team are totally opposite," he said. "That's what makes the draft kind of fun. You see things and you go there and you go, there's no way that everyone's not going to see the first 10 picks exactly how we see them, and there will be a difference of opinion. That's what's really interesting and unique about the draft process."
In less than a week, we'll see who did the best job of lying and blowing smoke ahead of the draft, hoping to get a player to fall their way.

Exactly this. This makes me even more certain we aren't taking Bijan at 10.

They may take Bijan somewhere in the 1st, but they sure as hell didn't tell any draftnik or beat writer he's their target. McShay has a report out now that the Cowboys are "obsessed" with taking an RB. How does McShay know that? Is someone from the Dallas war room giving him their draft strategy? Highly unlikely.

"Everyone's talking about the Eagles taking Bijan!". Perhaps, but not the Eagles. Lots of click bait and things thrown at the wall so someone can say "see! I told you!".

I'll put it this way Bijan on the Eagles is a dream for the media in this league because of our offensive line and Offense in general. So they are going with hot takes and what if's and acting like it'll happen. I've been reading how if Dalvin Cook and Vikings don't agree to an extension he'll be released and the media does their whole 5 or so teams that X player could fit on. The Eagles are being named with every RB who might be released big name wise. The one I read on Cook to the Eagles and I quote "Cook on the Eagles is a dream scenario with the weapons they have and one of the top OL's in the league."

So there's a lot of hyperbole in these reports

 

[Amused to Death]

The bolded is why I laugh whenever I read that Team X has taken player "Y" off their draft board, or that there's a lot of chatter the Eagles are going to take Bijan at 10.​

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Eagles GM Howie Roseman playing 'poker' ahead of draft: 'Nobody has any idea what we're going to do'​

The weeks leading up to the NFL draft are filled with lies, false flags and shell games as clubs try to jockey for positioning.
Amid the fibs told during each club's pre-draft press conference, Eagles general manager Howie Roseman offered the most honest quote of lying season.
"This is a huge game of poker, and all you want to affect is the outcome of your desired results," Roseman said Thursday. "Am I going to give you guys any answers today? No, not even a little bit. But I think the reality of it is anyone who's sitting there and saying, 'Hey, I know exactly what's going to happen at pick 11 or pick 12 or pick 6 or 20, it's all a guess."
Take everything said before April 27 with a giant heaping of salt. It behooves no club to be transparent about its plans and process. Even the Carolina Panthers sitting at No. 1 overall are playing coy with their decision.
With picks 10 and 30, the Eagles could be movers and shakers come next Thursday, especially given Roseman's propensity for draft-day trades.
"Nobody has any idea what we're going to do. I know that," he said, noting that anyone claiming they know what a team might do is probably getting played.

Roseman noted that the disparate personalities leading each franchise are what makes the draft such a wild ride, with player grades varying wildly from team to team.
"The things that we're seeing that we think are so clear and so transparent to another team are totally opposite," he said. "That's what makes the draft kind of fun. You see things and you go there and you go, there's no way that everyone's not going to see the first 10 picks exactly how we see them, and there will be a difference of opinion. That's what's really interesting and unique about the draft process."
In less than a week, we'll see who did the best job of lying and blowing smoke ahead of the draft, hoping to get a player to fall their way.

Exactly this. This makes me even more certain we aren't taking Bijan at 10.

They may take Bijan somewhere in the 1st, but they sure as hell didn't tell any draftnik or beat writer he's their target. McShay has a report out now that the Cowboys are "obsessed" with taking an RB. How does McShay know that? Is someone from the Dallas war room giving him their draft strategy? Highly unlikely.

"Everyone's talking about the Eagles taking Bijan!". Perhaps, but not the Eagles. Lots of click bait and things thrown at the wall so someone can say "see! I told you!".

I'll put it this way Bijan on the Eagles is a dream for the media in this league because of our offensive line and Offense in general. So they are going with hot takes and what if's and acting like it'll happen. I've been reading how if Dalvin Cook and Vikings don't agree to an extension he'll be released and the media does their whole 5 or so teams that X player could fit on. The Eagles are being named with every RB who might be released big name wise. The one I read on Cook to the Eagles and I quote "Cook on the Eagles is a dream scenario with the weapons they have and one of the top OL's in the league."

So there's a lot of hyperbole in these reports

Lots of FFL wishcasting going on.

 

[rockaction]

Lots of FFL wishcasting going on.

If you mean fantasy, I think a lot of people don't want to see Bijan there. Hurts doesn't check down and takes away rushing touchdown opportunities. I roster Sanders, and last year got frustrating. They were always in the red zone, and he didn't see that many carries inside the five.

 

[Amused to Death]

Lots of FFL wishcasting going on.

If you mean fantasy, I think a lot of people don't want to see Bijan there. Hurts doesn't check down and takes away rushing touchdown opportunities. I roster Sanders, and last year got frustrating. They were always in the red zone, and he didn't see that many carries inside the five.

I think the belief would be that having Bijan would take those carries away from Hurts. The hype is because of the potential of him running behind the Eagles' O-line.

 

[rockaction]

The hype is because of the potential of him running behind the Eagles' O-line.

Yeah, I get that. Already considered and weighed against the lack of receiving check downs and potential for goal-line tush pushery. He'd still do well on the Eagles, that's for sure.

 

[Amused to Death]

Lots of FFL wishcasting going on.

If you mean fantasy, I think a lot of people don't want to see Bijan there. Hurts doesn't check down and takes away rushing touchdown opportunities. I roster Sanders, and last year got frustrating. They were always in the red zone, and he didn't see that many carries inside the five.

I think the belief would be that having Bijan would take those carries away from Hurts. The hype is because of the potential of him running behind the Eagles' O-line.

But to your point, that's why many believe Gibbs would be the better fit in the Eagles' offense. They haven't traditionally been a team to rely on a workhorse back, which is what they would have to do if they did draft Bijan. There are a lot of reasons why the Eagles drafting Bijan just doesn't make sense.

 

[DJackson10]

Lots of FFL wishcasting going on.

If you mean fantasy, I think a lot of people don't want to see Bijan there. Hurts doesn't check down and takes away rushing touchdown opportunities. I roster Sanders, and last year got frustrating. They were always in the red zone, and he didn't see that many carries inside the five.

I think the belief would be that having Bijan would take those carries away from Hurts. The hype is because of the potential of him running behind the Eagles' O-line.

It seems like they would add a RB in the mid-lat rounds. I think they like Sermon and Penny and think one of them can have the Jordan Howard role while Gainwell and Scott take passing downs change of pace. Now bringing in another back could change that but anyone who's on the fringe would most likely be Sermon unless Penny gets injured or has an awful camp.

 

[jon007]

I just heard a crazy rumor that the Eagles exchange pick 10 to the Titans for pick 11 plus get Derrick Henry. My source which I'll keep a secret noted that this could be only agent speak.

Henry's agent is also Browns agent. This trade doesn't feel like a Howie type move unless the Titans are taking B. Robinson and we still get Carter.

 

[travdogg]

I just heard a crazy rumor that the Eagles exchange pick 10 to the Titans for pick 11 plus get Derrick Henry. My source which I'll keep a secret noted that this could be only agent speak.

Henry's agent is also Browns agent. This trade doesn't feel like a Howie type move unless the Titans are taking B. Robinson and we still get Carter.

That'd be a really small return for the Titans. Barely better than straight cutting Henry.

If it were that plus Philly throwing in like a 3rd rounder, I could see it.

I've also heard the smoke around Henry to Philly, but never any actual picks being talked about.

 

[Deamon]

I just heard a crazy rumor that the Eagles exchange pick 10 to the Titans for pick 11 plus get Derrick Henry. My source which I'll keep a secret noted that this could be only agent speak.

Henry's agent is also Browns agent. This trade doesn't feel like a Howie type move unless the Titans are taking B. Robinson and we still get Carter.

This would be too cheap for Henry I think. If they pull this off though, fantastic. Maybe that's why they have all this "interest in Bijan".
We don't have enough mid round picks to be giving up the throw in that is likely needed to make this happen.

 

[JetMaxx]

I just heard a crazy rumor that the Eagles exchange pick 10 to the Titans for pick 11 plus get Derrick Henry. My source which I'll keep a secret noted that this could be only agent speak.

Henry's agent is also Browns agent. This trade doesn't feel like a Howie type move unless the Titans are taking B. Robinson and we still get Carter.

Curious if that works in relation to the cap. Can we get Justin Simmons thrown in as well?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I just heard a crazy rumor that the Eagles exchange pick 10 to the Titans for pick 11 plus get Derrick Henry. My source which I'll keep a secret noted that this could be only agent speak.

Henry's agent is also Browns agent. This trade doesn't feel like a Howie type move unless the Titans are taking B. Robinson and we still get Carter.

I read that on Bleeding Green this morning as well. Henry is due 10.5 million and is a FA so the cost could be very low according to what I read. If we move one draft slot back and get him and our guy at 11 I’d be more than happy.

 

[Insein]

Henry is not going to demand a lot of value right now. It's more beneficial for Tenn to get someone to take him off their hands at this point. If anything is thibkt the eagles would want a 6th with henery for Tenn to move up the one spot.

 

[JetMaxx]

I just heard a crazy rumor that the Eagles exchange pick 10 to the Titans for pick 11 plus get Derrick Henry. My source which I'll keep a secret noted that this could be only agent speak.

Henry's agent is also Browns agent. This trade doesn't feel like a Howie type move unless the Titans are taking B. Robinson and we still get Carter.

Henry is due 10.5 million and is a FA

I’m confused

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I just heard a crazy rumor that the Eagles exchange pick 10 to the Titans for pick 11 plus get Derrick Henry. My source which I'll keep a secret noted that this could be only agent speak.

Henry's agent is also Browns agent. This trade doesn't feel like a Howie type move unless the Titans are taking B. Robinson and we still get Carter.

Henry is due 10.5 million and is a FA

I’m confused

Due 10.5 and a FA after that.

 

[need2know]

Man 3 great bama players on the eagles at the same time is too great to believe

 

[The Noid]

I've also heard the smoke around Henry to Philly, but never any actual picks being talked about.

TEN picks behind us at 11. I could see us swapping picks for Henry, if 2 things are true:

1) TEN is trying to dump his salary in the last year of his deal and had no other takers so making sure the Eagles don’t trade out to team that will take their targeted player at #10 is win/win.

2) Henry isn’t looking for an extension as part of a trade, which makes it more likely the Eagles would take on his salary as a “one year prove it” type situation and he can try to cash in somewhere else.

 

[Deamon]

I've also heard the smoke around Henry to Philly, but never any actual picks being talked about.

TEN picks behind us at 11. I could see us swapping picks for Henry, if 2 things are true:

1) TEN is trying to dump his salary in the last year of his deal and had no other takers so making sure the Eagles don’t trade out to team that will take their targeted player at #10 is win/win.

2) Henry isn’t looking for an extension as part of a trade, which makes it more likely the Eagles would take on his salary as a “one year prove it” type situation and he can try to cash in somewhere else.

Do you believe there's any fire to this smoke? Hearing it a lot the last couple days but no clue how that coulda leaked or if it was just one dude who caused all this talk.

 

[Deamon]

@JoeBanner
Again there is never zero % but continued speculation that a team that has 3 good backs & has never picked backs high or spent a lot of money on one is suddenly going to spend a high draft pick or acquire a back who isn’t a top pass catcher contradicts their behavior over 25 yrs

@NFL_DovKleiman
The Derrick Henry trade "Not happening" is also confirmed by @ProFootballTalk

@nflinthezone_
REPORT: According to @jayglazer, the rumors surrounding #Titans RB Derrick Henry getting traded to the #Eagles aren’t real

@TitansStats
On whether the #Titans are trading Derrick Henry to the Eagles: “Per a source with knowledge of the situation, it won’t be happening,” per Mike Florio with Pro Football Talk


Ya I don't think there's anything to this.

 

[The Noid]

I've also heard the smoke around Henry to Philly, but never any actual picks being talked about.

TEN picks behind us at 11. I could see us swapping picks for Henry, if 2 things are true:

1) TEN is trying to dump his salary in the last year of his deal and had no other takers so making sure the Eagles don’t trade out to team that will take their targeted player at #10 is win/win.

2) Henry isn’t looking for an extension as part of a trade, which makes it more likely the Eagles would take on his salary as a “one year prove it” type situation and he can try to cash in somewhere else.

Do you believe there's any fire to this smoke? Hearing it a lot the last couple days but no clue how that coulda leaked or if it was just one dude who caused all this talk.

Nah, just one of the many things out there getting thrown against the wall by people in hopes of getting one of them right.

 

[travdogg]

@JoeBanner
Again there is never zero % but continued speculation that a team that has 3 good backs & has never picked backs high or spent a lot of money on one is suddenly going to spend a high draft pick or acquire a back who isn’t a top pass catcher contradicts their behavior over 25 yrs

@NFL_DovKleiman
The Derrick Henry trade "Not happening" is also confirmed by @ProFootballTalk

@nflinthezone_
REPORT: According to @jayglazer, the rumors surrounding #Titans RB Derrick Henry getting traded to the #Eagles aren’t real

@TitansStats
On whether the #Titans are trading Derrick Henry to the Eagles: “Per a source with knowledge of the situation, it won’t be happening,” per Mike Florio with Pro Football Talk


Ya I don't think there's anything to this.

To be fair, Mike Vrabel himself literally said, "we are not trading AJ Brown" like 2 days before last year's draft.

Not saying no evidence means evidence, but there's no reason, to deny, its the season, of the lie.

 

[Deamon]

@JoeBanner
Again there is never zero % but continued speculation that a team that has 3 good backs & has never picked backs high or spent a lot of money on one is suddenly going to spend a high draft pick or acquire a back who isn’t a top pass catcher contradicts their behavior over 25 yrs

@NFL_DovKleiman
The Derrick Henry trade "Not happening" is also confirmed by @ProFootballTalk

@nflinthezone_
REPORT: According to @jayglazer, the rumors surrounding #Titans RB Derrick Henry getting traded to the #Eagles aren’t real

@TitansStats
On whether the #Titans are trading Derrick Henry to the Eagles: “Per a source with knowledge of the situation, it won’t be happening,” per Mike Florio with Pro Football Talk


Ya I don't think there's anything to this.

To be fair, Mike Vrabel himself literally said, "we are not trading AJ Brown" like 2 days before last year's draft.

Not saying no evidence means evidence, but there's no reason, to deny, its the season, of the lie.

Well none of those quotes were from Vrabel or the actual Titans. It really sounds like literally ONE dude made up that rumour and it spread somehow.

 

[DJackson10]

I've also heard the smoke around Henry to Philly, but never any actual picks being talked about.

TEN picks behind us at 11. I could see us swapping picks for Henry, if 2 things are true:

1) TEN is trying to dump his salary in the last year of his deal and had no other takers so making sure the Eagles don’t trade out to team that will take their targeted player at #10 is win/win.

2) Henry isn’t looking for an extension as part of a trade, which makes it more likely the Eagles would take on his salary as a “one year prove it” type situation and he can try to cash in somewhere else.

Do you believe there's any fire to this smoke? Hearing it a lot the last couple days but no clue how that coulda leaked or if it was just one dude who caused all this talk.

Nah, just one of the many things out there getting thrown against the wall by people in hopes of getting one of them right.

It was started by someone guy who use to play in the NFL who shares the same agency as DH. Twitter blue checkmarks went gone if you didn't do the stupid sub thing by Thursday and since then there's a lot of idiots acting like some journalist or know it all starting ********. I already saw like 5 different Soccer moves bullshitted that the main guys reported or had to report of not being true already among other BS. Also some of the idiots who did apply for the blue check and aren't qualified Journalist reporters are going around with fake BS. Blame the new owner of the site for this mess.

 

[Insein]

I've also heard the smoke around Henry to Philly, but never any actual picks being talked about.

TEN picks behind us at 11. I could see us swapping picks for Henry, if 2 things are true:

1) TEN is trying to dump his salary in the last year of his deal and had no other takers so making sure the Eagles don’t trade out to team that will take their targeted player at #10 is win/win.

2) Henry isn’t looking for an extension as part of a trade, which makes it more likely the Eagles would take on his salary as a “one year prove it” type situation and he can try to cash in somewhere else.

Do you believe there's any fire to this smoke? Hearing it a lot the last couple days but no clue how that coulda leaked or if it was just one dude who caused all this talk.

Nah, just one of the many things out there getting thrown against the wall by people in hopes of getting one of them right.

It was started by someone guy who use to play in the NFL who shares the same agency as DH. Twitter blue checkmarks went gone if you didn't do the stupid sub thing by Thursday and since then there's a lot of idiots acting like some journalist or know it all starting ********. I already saw like 5 different Soccer moves bullshitted that the main guys reported or had to report of not being true already among other BS. Also some of the idiots who did apply for the blue check and aren't qualified Journalist reporters are going around with fake BS. Blame the new owner of the site for this mess.

Their account names haven't changed. There's still fake Woj accounts and fake Shefter accounts. But there's still only one real one and it's easy to see it.

 

[Terpman22]

Just came in to say there is NO WAY the Eagles are adding Derrick Henry. He's not a pass catching threat, he has 1750 career carries, he's 29 years old and due a big salary and we would need to trade draft capital for him. I could be proven wrong, but this is NOT what the Eagles look for or how they spend value on the position.

Now Dalvin Cook? I could see that.

 

[The Noid]

Eagles Draft Prediction Contest! Winner gets a pu pu platter of Eagles swag.

Entries due by noon, Thursday. Respond with the following predictions:

Pick #10: Trade Up/Trade Down/Stay, player picked

Pick #30: Trade Up/Trade Down/Stay, player picked

Eagles final draft pick: total number of letters in their given first and last name

Scoring will be 2 points for each Up/Down/Stay correct prediction, 4 points for each correct player prediction. If a pick is traded, the player taken with the earliest pick resulting from the trade will be considered the player picked. Ties will be broken by closest correct prediction of total letters in the final pick's name.

Good luck!

 

[The Noid]

Pick #10: Trade Up, Jalen Carter

Pick #30: Trade Down, Brian Branch

Eagles final draft pick name: 14

 

[Terpman22]

Pick #10: Trade Up, Jalen Carter

Pick #30: Trade Down, Brian Branch

Eagles final draft pick: 14

Well crap, you stole my go to predictions. Would be ecstatic if this happens. I'll come up with an alternate!

 

[The Noid]

Pick #10: Trade Up, Jalen Carter

Pick #30: Trade Down, Brian Branch

Eagles final draft pick: 14

Well crap, you stole my go to predictions. Would be ecstatic if this happens. I'll come up with an alternate!

That's why there's a tie breaker!

Plus, I'm only putting my predictions on record. Wouldn't be any fun if I win and just keep my own accumulated Eagles swag!

 

[Insein]

Eagles Draft 2023

#10 Trade back to #12 - Take Nolan Smith

#30 Trade back to #35 - Take Darnell Washington

 

[Terpman22]

Eagles Draft 2023

#10 Trade back to #14 - Take Nolan Smith

#30 Trade up to #24 - Take Bijan Robinson

Name: 17 Letters

 

[The Noid]

Anyone need Draft Party tickets for Thursday at The Linc? I have 4 extra to give away.

 

[DJackson10]

I've also heard the smoke around Henry to Philly, but never any actual picks being talked about.

TEN picks behind us at 11. I could see us swapping picks for Henry, if 2 things are true:

1) TEN is trying to dump his salary in the last year of his deal and had no other takers so making sure the Eagles don’t trade out to team that will take their targeted player at #10 is win/win.

2) Henry isn’t looking for an extension as part of a trade, which makes it more likely the Eagles would take on his salary as a “one year prove it” type situation and he can try to cash in somewhere else.

Do you believe there's any fire to this smoke? Hearing it a lot the last couple days but no clue how that coulda leaked or if it was just one dude who caused all this talk.

Nah, just one of the many things out there getting thrown against the wall by people in hopes of getting one of them right.

It was started by someone guy who use to play in the NFL who shares the same agency as DH. Twitter blue checkmarks went gone if you didn't do the stupid sub thing by Thursday and since then there's a lot of idiots acting like some journalist or know it all starting ********. I already saw like 5 different Soccer moves bullshitted that the main guys reported or had to report of not being true already among other BS. Also some of the idiots who did apply for the blue check and aren't qualified Journalist reporters are going around with fake BS. Blame the new owner of the site for this mess.

Their account names haven't changed. There's still fake Woj accounts and fake Shefter accounts. But there's still only one real one and it's easy to see it.

Yeah I agree I was just saying that there's people subbing to twitter blue acting like a real journalist not impersonating them and then you got unqualified people who just throw **** up on a wall and hope it sticks.

 

[DJackson10]

Just came in to say there is NO WAY the Eagles are adding Derrick Henry. He's not a pass catching threat, he has 1750 career carries, he's 29 years old and due a big salary and we would need to trade draft capital for him. I could be proven wrong, but this is NOT what the Eagles look for or how they spend value on the position.

Now Dalvin Cook? I could see that.

Cook is possible getting released so all we need to do is a contract. They were going to draft him from what I heard until Minny jumped ahead of us and took him so we settled for Miles Sanders

 

[travdogg]

Just came in to say there is NO WAY the Eagles are adding Derrick Henry. He's not a pass catching threat, he has 1750 career carries, he's 29 years old and due a big salary and we would need to trade draft capital for him. I could be proven wrong, but this is NOT what the Eagles look for or how they spend value on the position.

Now Dalvin Cook? I could see that.

Cook is possible getting released so all we need to do is a contract. They were going to draft him from what I heard until Minny jumped ahead of us and took him so we settled for Miles Sanders

Wrong year, Cook was 2017, Sanders was 2019. I'm like 99% sure this conversation happened not long ago in this thread.

Frankly, at this point, I wonder how much better Cook is than the guys they have.

ETA: Age be damned, Cook looks a LOT closer to being washed than Henry does.

 

[Insein]

Yea id rather have Penny than Cook at this point. The wall is here for Cook where Penny might still have some miles.

 

[Deamon]

The Eagles were going to Draft Dalvin Cook before Minn jumped ahead of them and took him. SO they took the next best back. I think if they had a Dalvin Cook they'd have tried to keep him and changed their philosophy. Miles was always the 2nd choice.

Dalvin Cook was drafted 2 years before Sanders was. The only RB the Eagles took in the Cook draft was Donnel Pumphrey, 2 rounds later.

My bad I get the 2 yrs mixed up

Cook is possible getting released so all we need to do is a contract. They were going to draft him from what I heard until Minny jumped ahead of us and took him so we settled for Miles Sanders

Wrong year, Cook was 2017, Sanders was 2019. I'm like 99% sure this conversation happened not long ago in this thread.

Deja Vu lol

 

[DJackson10]

Eagles

First pick: Trade down: Nolan Smith

2nd pick: 2nd Round Gervon Dexter

 

[need2know]

You know we are drafting oline and dline

 

[unckeyherb]

First pick: trade back to 15, Bijan Robinson
Second pick: stay, Nolan Smith

16 letters

 

[Deamon]

First pick: trade back to 15, Bijan Robinson
Second pick: stay, Nolan Smith

16 letters

Smith at 30 would be awesome. Can't figure that guy out... some mock him top 8-10, some in round 2. It's weird.

 

[The Noid]

I feel like so much of the Bijan/Eagles hype centers on the fact that it's a "win now" move and that it's the missing piece to our offense that will win us a Super Bowl. We scored the most points EVER in a Super Bowl loss. And those 35 points would have won or tied the opponent in 44 of the previous 56 Super Bowls. We went 14-3 in the regular season and steamrolled through the divisional and conference rounds.

This isn't a team trying to get over the hump and finally breakthrough. How much of an incremental lift is Bijan going to give a team that just did all of that with a slightly above-average running back?

I think the front office sees using an early-mid first round pick resource on Bijan as making the current team 1-2% better, but the franchise 10-15% worse in the long-term, which is not a compelling case.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I feel like so much of the Bijan/Eagles hype centers on the fact that it's a "win now" move and that it's the missing piece to our offense that will win us a Super Bowl. We scored the most points EVER in a Super Bowl loss. And those 35 points would have won or tied the opponent in 44 of the previous 56 Super Bowls. We went 14-3 in the regular season and steamrolled through the divisional and conference rounds.

This isn't a team trying to get over the hump and finally breakthrough. How much of an incremental lift is Bijan going to give a team that just did all of that with a slightly above-average running back?

I think the front office sees using an early-mid first round pick resource on Bijan as making the current team 1-2% better, but the franchise 10-15% worse in the long-term, which is not a compelling case.

I think players like Jalen Carter or Nolan Smith would make the team better than Bijan Robinson at #10. At #30, if he's there, he's probably BPA by a mile and I would jump at him at that point. I don't have much faith in Penny staying healthy, but if he does, he may be the best FA signing of the offseason for any team. At this point, I'm more than happy taking a RB with the #94 pick. Go defense heavy with the first three picks.

 

[Terpman22]

I feel like so much of the Bijan/Eagles hype centers on the fact that it's a "win now" move and that it's the missing piece to our offense that will win us a Super Bowl. We scored the most points EVER in a Super Bowl loss. And those 35 points would have won or tied the opponent in 44 of the previous 56 Super Bowls. We went 14-3 in the regular season and steamrolled through the divisional and conference rounds.

This isn't a team trying to get over the hump and finally breakthrough. How much of an incremental lift is Bijan going to give a team that just did all of that with a slightly above-average running back?

I think the front office sees using an early-mid first round pick resource on Bijan as making the current team 1-2% better, but the franchise 10-15% worse in the long-term, which is not a compelling case.

I think players like Jalen Carter or Nolan Smith would make the team better than Bijan Robinson at #10. At #30, if he's there, he's probably BPA by a mile and I would jump at him at that point. I don't have much faith in Penny staying healthy, but if he does, he may be the best FA signing of the offseason for any team. At this point, I'm more than happy taking a RB with the #94 pick. Go defense heavy with the first three picks.

I am with both of these points. My point with "If we take Bijan at 10" is bc these obvious guys are not there and we couldn't trade up or it was just too expensive to trade up to get one of the top 3 DL (Anderson/Wilson/Carter). I'm not down with taking a guard this high (Skoronski) and I just don't see us trading up for Paris Johnson either, although if he is there, I could surely see us trading up, but that would be Lane Johnson is on his last year, which, ya know doesn't make logical sense since he signed a contract extension in the past 3 weeks. Which means we would take a guy to have Jurgens sit on the bench for another year, and then....plug Jurgens in next year to have the next OT play OG for his first 2 years until Johnson retires. Just seems like too much musical chairs and wasting away of Jurgens cheap rookie deal in this scenario. So if my thinking is correct, I'm just saying taking him at 10 is "not a mistake" it might not be great value overall, but I certainly wouldn't say taking the guy who is the best prospect at his position in the past half decade is a "mistake" if all of these other options aren't on the table. If we take him over the main guys here, then yeah, its a mistake IMO. The only reason me, other fans, media types are saying it could be real is yeah, we are gunning for the Super Bowl, but more so, there just isn't a key positional upgrade on offense to be had other than RB. I disagree he somehow makes our team "worse" over the next 4 years. He could be a huge cog in what we do, and also take away some of those hits Jalen takes at the goalline, as well as be split out wide in the slot to take advantage of mismatches. QB/WR/WR/TE are all set with stud starters right now. And I just don't see us going the JSN route early for a guy to play the slot and get 2-4 targets each game and eventually want to be showcased with a lot more targets. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but it doesn't seem reasonable to make that move.

 

[unckeyherb]

I feel like so much of the Bijan/Eagles hype centers on the fact that it's a "win now" move and that it's the missing piece to our offense that will win us a Super Bowl. We scored the most points EVER in a Super Bowl loss. And those 35 points would have won or tied the opponent in 44 of the previous 56 Super Bowls. We went 14-3 in the regular season and steamrolled through the divisional and conference rounds.

This isn't a team trying to get over the hump and finally breakthrough. How much of an incremental lift is Bijan going to give a team that just did all of that with a slightly above-average running back?

I think the front office sees using an early-mid first round pick resource on Bijan as making the current team 1-2% better, but the franchise 10-15% worse in the long-term, which is not a compelling case.

I can see this argument, but honestly, Bijan on this current roster makes them probably the best offense in the league. I posted my thoughts in more detail in the Bijan thread but I can definitely see them taking him.

 

[need2know]

really hope we use both first round picks but you know howie is trading one of them. prob ten

 

[Terpman22]

I feel like so much of the Bijan/Eagles hype centers on the fact that it's a "win now" move and that it's the missing piece to our offense that will win us a Super Bowl. We scored the most points EVER in a Super Bowl loss. And those 35 points would have won or tied the opponent in 44 of the previous 56 Super Bowls. We went 14-3 in the regular season and steamrolled through the divisional and conference rounds.

This isn't a team trying to get over the hump and finally breakthrough. How much of an incremental lift is Bijan going to give a team that just did all of that with a slightly above-average running back?

I think the front office sees using an early-mid first round pick resource on Bijan as making the current team 1-2% better, but the franchise 10-15% worse in the long-term, which is not a compelling case.

I can see this argument, but honestly, Bijan on this current roster makes them probably the best offense in the league. I posted my thoughts in more detail in the Bijan thread but I can definitely see them taking him.

There was a thing on Bleacher Report ranking the best offensive cores yesterday. Only Cincinnati came in higher than the Eagles. And I agree with you, adding Bijan, in addition to already having Penny on the roster would make this offense look unstoppable. A loaded roster only becomes "more" loaded or maybe the term is overloaded I'm not sure.

 

[need2know]

i think we are def drafting a RB. just not in round 1

 

[DJackson10]

I feel like so much of the Bijan/Eagles hype centers on the fact that it's a "win now" move and that it's the missing piece to our offense that will win us a Super Bowl. We scored the most points EVER in a Super Bowl loss. And those 35 points would have won or tied the opponent in 44 of the previous 56 Super Bowls. We went 14-3 in the regular season and steamrolled through the divisional and conference rounds.

This isn't a team trying to get over the hump and finally breakthrough. How much of an incremental lift is Bijan going to give a team that just did all of that with a slightly above-average running back?

I think the front office sees using an early-mid first round pick resource on Bijan as making the current team 1-2% better, but the franchise 10-15% worse in the long-term, which is not a compelling case.

He doesn't even fit the system of what we do on offense. Getting Bijan would interrupt the offensive consistency. That happens then fans are going to wonder why Hurts isn't as good as he was last year. Bijan has talent but I get reservations for guys who lite the world on fire in the Big 12 which is never known for any defense. Look what happened last time we drafted a offensive skill player from that conference.

 

[The Noid]

I think there's a trade-up/trade-down scenario that involves both picks and LV, if the first 6 picks go a certain way:

Eagles move up from 10 to 7, LV moves down from 7 to 10
Eagles move down from 30 to 38, LV moves up from 38 to 30