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[thecatch]

If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college.

That’s quite the hyperbole. He was a top recruit coming out of high school (yeah, some of that was fame but he wouldn’t have been rated as high if he didn’t have the skill set and HS performance to warrant it), whose only college season was derailed because of a serious heart issue. If he was still at USC this year with anywhere near the development he’s shown this year, he’d for sure be talked about as a first rounder in the upcoming draft.

Would he? He made some shots last night but there's nothing in his statistics in the G League or the NBA this year that scream out that this 6-2 guard is a first round talent.

 

[Yo Mama]

If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college.

That’s quite the hyperbole. He was a top recruit coming out of high school (yeah, some of that was fame but he wouldn’t have been rated as high if he didn’t have the skill set and HS performance to warrant it), whose only college season was derailed because of a serious heart issue. If he was still at USC this year with anywhere near the development he’s shown this year, he’d for sure be talked about as a first rounder in the upcoming draft.

Would he? He made some shots last night but there's nothing in his statistics in the G League or the NBA this year that scream out that this 6-2 guard is a first round talent.

Yeah, I’m still assuming his name is LeBron James Jr in this scenario. His shooting and playmaking has improved dramatically this year after an incomplete season last year. If he was still in college showing this improvement and had a fully healthy year, he’d definitely be talked about as a first rounder (not necessarily a lottery level) this year.

The name and fame definitely help, but he’s also showing he’s not a charity case and has the potential to find a role in the league.

 

[msudaisy26]

If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college.

That’s quite the hyperbole. He was a top recruit coming out of high school (yeah, some of that was fame but he wouldn’t have been rated as high if he didn’t have the skill set and HS performance to warrant it), whose only college season was derailed because of a serious heart issue. If he was still at USC this year with anywhere near the development he’s shown this year, he’d for sure be talked about as a first rounder in the upcoming draft.

That is fine, maybe he is playing, but your are being just as bad saying how he would develop and being talked about as a first rounder.

 

[msudaisy26]

If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college.

That’s quite the hyperbole. He was a top recruit coming out of high school (yeah, some of that was fame but he wouldn’t have been rated as high if he didn’t have the skill set and HS performance to warrant it), whose only college season was derailed because of a serious heart issue. If he was still at USC this year with anywhere near the development he’s shown this year, he’d for sure be talked about as a first rounder in the upcoming draft.

Would he? He made some shots last night but there's nothing in his statistics in the G League or the NBA this year that scream out that this 6-2 guard is a first round talent.

Yeah, I’m still assuming his name is LeBron James Jr in this scenario. His shooting and playmaking has improved dramatically this year after an incomplete season last year. If he was still in college showing this improvement and had a fully healthy year, he’d definitely be talked about as a first rounder (not necessarily a lottery level) this year.

The name and fame definitely help, but he’s also showing he’s not a charity case and has the potential to find a role in the league.

The name and fame are the only reason he is with the Lakers right now. That doesn't mean he can't be a decent player in the future, but if this was any other kid in the world he would have stayed in school because this opportunity doesn't exist.

 

[thecatch]

If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college.

That’s quite the hyperbole. He was a top recruit coming out of high school (yeah, some of that was fame but he wouldn’t have been rated as high if he didn’t have the skill set and HS performance to warrant it), whose only college season was derailed because of a serious heart issue. If he was still at USC this year with anywhere near the development he’s shown this year, he’d for sure be talked about as a first rounder in the upcoming draft.

Would he? He made some shots last night but there's nothing in his statistics in the G League or the NBA this year that scream out that this 6-2 guard is a first round talent.

Yeah, I’m still assuming his name is LeBron James Jr in this scenario. His shooting and playmaking has improved dramatically this year after an incomplete season last year. If he was still in college showing this improvement and had a fully healthy year, he’d definitely be talked about as a first rounder (not necessarily a lottery level) this year.

The name and fame definitely help, but he’s also showing he’s not a charity case and has the potential to find a role in the league.

He's a viable second round pick who is getting more playing time and opportunity than he would be if he wasn't Lebron's kid. He's both a professional basketball player and the beneficiary of nepotism. I can't speak to how he's looking via the eye test but there's nothing in his statistical profile that suggests he's any good at shooting or playmaking yet. I doubt any scouts are looking at him right now and kicking themselves for passing on him in the 20s last year.

 

[Yo Mama]

I’ll totally admit, most of the Bronny stuff from me here is beefed up with hyperbole and posted just to push people’s buttons.

I just think Bronny’s name and father have as much to do with his detractors’ opinions on him as they do with his supporters’ views of him.

 

[Capella]

Would he? He made some shots last night but there's nothing in his statistics in the G League

I think averaging 21/5/5 in the G League would indicate he’d do better in NCAA. But statistics don’t get players drafted, traits do.

 

[thecatch]

Would he? He made some shots last night but there's nothing in his statistics in the G League

I think averaging 21/5/5 in the G League would indicate he’d do better in NCAA. But statistics don’t get players drafted, traits do.

I won't engage on the stats part again, but I don't know why you think the bolded would help him here as a severely undersized combo guard (unless you are including the fact that he's Lebron's kid among his "traits").

 

[Beef Ravioli Part 2]

Would he? He made some shots last night but there's nothing in his statistics in the G League

I think averaging 21/5/5 in the G League would indicate he’d do better in NCAA. But statistics don’t get players drafted, traits do.

Wait, are you saying Bronny averaged 21/5/5 in G League? I seriously don’t know what he has averaged but I’m shocked if it’s that much and would have guessed him to be much lower than that.

I’m of the opinion he’s only getting a chance at the NBA because of his dad and the story. I don’t think he was a true blue chip prospect but his name would get him into any school he wanted.

If he can truly make a place for himself in the league then good on him, but I think he sticks around as long as his dad is playing or has ownership of some team.

 

[thecatch]

Would he? He made some shots last night but there's nothing in his statistics in the G League

I think averaging 21/5/5 in the G League would indicate he’d do better in NCAA. But statistics don’t get players drafted, traits do.

Wait, are you saying Bronny averaged 21/5/5 in G League? I seriously don’t know what he has averaged but I’m shocked if it’s that much and would have guessed him to be much lower than that.

I’m of the opinion he’s only getting a chance at the NBA because of his dad and the story. I don’t think he was a true blue chip prospect but his name would get him into any school he wanted.

If he can truly make a place for himself in the league then good on him, but I think he sticks around as long as his dad is playing or has ownership of some team.

He is (on mediocre-poor efficiency) if you go off his 9 game "regular season" sample size. His overall 16 game sample size is worse. I don't know enough about G-League stats to try and normalize them, but my understanding is that there's very little defense being played there, and he has a negative net rating, so he's not lighting the league on fire however you want to slice it.

 

[Capella]

Would he? He made some shots last night but there's nothing in his statistics in the G League

I think averaging 21/5/5 in the G League would indicate he’d do better in NCAA. But statistics don’t get players drafted, traits do.

I won't engage on the stats part again, but I don't know why you think the bolded would help him here as a severely undersized combo guard (unless you are including the fact that he's Lebron's kid among his "traits").

Excellent defensive prospect, very pure looking shot if it starts to drop are the traits people said about him prior to the draft.

 

[Jayrod]

NBA Memes

Bronny James is inevitable.

www.facebook.com

 

[Zeppelin]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He has now passed Ben Simmons in the career threes made list

 

[the moops]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Single game +/- is useless. The Lakers played an entire team of borderline NBA players last night anyway

 

[the moops]

Wait, are you saying Bronny averaged 21/5/5 in G League? I seriously don’t know what he has averaged but I’m shocked if it’s that much and would have guessed him to be much lower than that.

G league stats are easily finable buddy.

He has played 9 games in the G League this year and is averaging 20.6 pts, 5.0 rebs, and 5.2 assts.

But that all doesnt really mean much for there are better players who average worse and worse players that average better

 

[Jayrod]

Wait, are you saying Bronny averaged 21/5/5 in G League? I seriously don’t know what he has averaged but I’m shocked if it’s that much and would have guessed him to be much lower than that.

G league stats are easily finable buddy.

He has played 9 games in the G League this year and is averaging 20.6 pts, 5.0 rebs, and 5.2 assts.

But that all doesnt really mean much for there are better players who average worse and worse players that average better

The most promising of his G league stats, IMO are his 36+% 3pt shooting and an A/TO ratio over 1.5. If he can do that at the NBA level and play plus defense, he's not a liability.

 

[Capella]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

 

[Zeppelin]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I just asked because it was in the post along with the other stats.

 

[Capella]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I just asked because it was in the post along with the other stats.

Not really you, just every post on Twitter criticizing him is mentioning it.

 

[the moops]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

 

[Capella]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

Nah I’ve never seen anybody talking about it for nba.

 

[Beef Ravioli Part 2]

Wait, are you saying Bronny averaged 21/5/5 in G League? I seriously don’t know what he has averaged but I’m shocked if it’s that much and would have guessed him to be much lower than that.

G league stats are easily finable buddy.

He has played 9 games in the G League this year and is averaging 20.6 pts, 5.0 rebs, and 5.2 assts.

But that all doesnt really mean much for there are better players who average worse and worse players that average better

Really surprised to be honest. Good for Bronny!

 

[identikit]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

Nah I’ve never seen anybody talking about it for nba.

It's been referenced a lot in this very thread

 

[Major]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

Nah I’ve never seen anybody talking about it for nba.

In 1995, when Houston was sweeping Orlando in the NBA Finals, definitely not a thing. In modern day NBA, it seems like a pretty common stat used by pundits/analysts to judge a player's worth.

 

[GOB]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

Nah I’ve never seen anybody talking about it for nba.

In 1995, when Houston was sweeping Orlando in the NBA Finals, definitely not a thing. In modern day NBA, it seems like a pretty common stat used by pundits/analysts to judge a player's worth.

Assault

 

[the moops]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

Nah I’ve never seen anybody talking about it for nba.

It's been referenced a lot in this very thread

It's one of the stats in the box score on nba.com

I am hoping cappy was just drunk last night. +/- is talked about a ton

 

[General Malaise]

Can't wait to watch the Blazers smack around Boston tomorrow.

 

[Capella]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

Nah I’ve never seen anybody talking about it for nba.

It's been referenced a lot in this very thread

It's one of the stats in the box score on nba.com

I am hoping cappy was just drunk last night. +/- is talked about a ton

I wasn’t drunk. Nobody refers to it. It’s maybe the most pointless stat in sports. Even worse than hockey’s version…there are multiple better stats to determine a player’s worth.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

I think that plus minus an be a useful stat when compared and analyzed with a sample size that is large enough to make it relevant. Using that as a foundation to evaluate a player where one team was effectively playing without its normal starting lineup in a single game is kinda intellectually dishonest. Jokic had the worst plus/minus out of all of the Nuggets starters the game he went for 30-21-21. It’s possible that a player could be the best player on the court for his team but have the worst plus/minus for a single game. It’s a stat where when the sample size is big enough—you can use it as one tool to evaluate if a team functions better with that player on the court. You can figure out which players work together well on your team once you have enough plus/minus data. If you want to evaluate a player without much sample size, plus/minus is not a stat that can or should mean much.

 

[the moops]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

Nah I’ve never seen anybody talking about it for nba.

It's been referenced a lot in this very thread

It's one of the stats in the box score on nba.com

I am hoping cappy was just drunk last night. +/- is talked about a ton

I wasn’t drunk. Nobody refers to it. It’s maybe the most pointless stat in sports. Even worse than hockey’s version…there are multiple better stats to determine a player’s worth.

Not sure what to tell you. It is used a ton and while single game or even few game +/- is useless it is a very simple and good capture of a players worth over a season or multiple seasons. Nobody argued that there aren’t better stars anyway

 

[Gr00vus]

What an interesting conversation. No, wait, I meant tedious - yes, tedious is the word I was looking for.

 

[the moops]

What an interesting conversation. No, wait, I meant tedious - yes, tedious is the word I was looking for.

-1 for this post

 

[Jayrod]

Yeah short term +/- isn't very indicative of a players value, long term can be a useful metric.

For instance, Cappy's last couple of days of posting is a -10, but he's still +173 on the season, primarily for his thread title work.

 

[Capella]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

Nah I’ve never seen anybody talking about it for nba.

It's been referenced a lot in this very thread

It's one of the stats in the box score on nba.com

I am hoping cappy was just drunk last night. +/- is talked about a ton

I wasn’t drunk. Nobody refers to it. It’s maybe the most pointless stat in sports. Even worse than hockey’s version…there are multiple better stats to determine a player’s worth.

Not sure what to tell you. It is used a ton and while single game or even few game +/- is useless it is a very simple and good capture of a players worth over a season or multiple seasons. Nobody argued that there aren’t better stars anyway

I’ve never seen anybody use it for a single game scenario except when they are trying to color a flawed argument to their favor. I also don’t care this much about the topic and am sober, although this conversation is making me consider drinking.

 

[the moops]

although this conversation is making me consider drinking.

Me too

+1

 

[Frostillicus]

I was drunk last night.

 

[the moops]

I was drunk last night.

I almost fell over going to be

 

[General Malaise]

Can't we just talk about the hottest bad team in basketball, OUR Portland Trailblazers?

 

[Moe.]

Thunder have the 1 seed locked up and nobody else in the West has clinched a playoff spot, pretty impressive. The Chet-Hartenstein lineups are starting to get really good.

 

[Zeppelin]

Here’s the Bronny update you were all anxiously awaiting.

Career highs in points (17), assists (5), and minutes (30) on 7-10 shooting.

Oh yeah, he was also -36 on the night.

He had a good game last night. I was encouraged by what I saw. The only real missteps were a couple of failed attempts to get fancy with the dibble, going between the legs when he didn't need to, having the ball hit his feet for turnovers. If he can keep improving the way he has over the course of this season for the next couple of years, he'll be a useful player in the league. Regardless, he looked like he belonged out there, and he wasn't playing against scrubs during garbage time.

What about the -36?

Never once in my life seen anybody talking about NBA +/- until the last 24 hours lmao

I am on your side here, but not once? +/- is a pretty common

Nah I’ve never seen anybody talking about it for nba.

It's been referenced a lot in this very thread

It's one of the stats in the box score on nba.com

I am hoping cappy was just drunk last night. +/- is talked about a ton

I wasn’t drunk. Nobody refers to it. It’s maybe the most pointless stat in sports. Even worse than hockey’s version…there are multiple better stats to determine a player’s worth.

Not sure what to tell you. It is used a ton and while single game or even few game +/- is useless it is a very simple and good capture of a players worth over a season or multiple seasons. Nobody argued that there aren’t better stars anyway

I’ve never seen anybody use it for a single game scenario except when they are trying to color a flawed argument to their favor. I also don’t care this much about the topic and am sober, although this conversation is making me consider drinking.

I think the +/- was used to counter people that were falling all over themselves with positive stats to praise Bronny.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Real adjusted plus minus is worthwhile over a good sample.

Tomorrows ncaa slate is pretty sweet from an nba standpoint, with like 7 of the top 15 prospects in this years draft playing

 

[Jayrod]

Can't wait to watch the Blazers smack around Boston tomorrow.

Boston up 10 after 1st Q. Shot well from 3, had 12 bench points. Portland looks good on offense, but 34 points defensively is not good against a team missing 3 starters. Tatum dominating with 6pts, 4 assts, 3 rbds and a steal in the qtr (played all 12 min).

If Portland can start to slow down Bostons offense and keep up their scoring, this will be a tight game. Tatum about to sit for 1/2 of the 2nd Q.

 

[Jayrod]

Can't wait to watch the Blazers smack around Boston tomorrow.

Boston up 10 after 1st Q. Shot well from 3, had 12 bench points. Portland looks good on offense, but 34 points defensively is not good against a team missing 3 starters. Tatum dominating with 6pts, 4 assts, 3 rbds and a steal in the qtr (played all 12 min).

If Portland can start to slow down Bostons offense and keep up their scoring, this will be a tight game. Tatum about to sit for 1/2 of the 2nd Q.

Not a lot of defense in this one. Both teams shot over 40% from 3 and were very efficient on offense. Celtics backups can score, but their defense is nowhere near as good without Brown, Holiday and Porzingis.

It was pretty even after the 1st quarter. Tatum with 30p/9a/9r/2b/1s and got a T with 20 seconds left barking at the official.

 

[Kev4029]

People everywhere, and definitely in this thread, were acting like he was a make a wish kid and he may end up being a rotational nba player after all. Incredible.

That poor kid, growing up like he did, getting drafted so late. He has overcome so much in his life. Can't wait for the movie.

You don’t have to hate him you know. You likely have no reason to. You can just let it go.

We can all like and dislike whatever players we want for whatever reason.

So you don't have to carry the torch for him because he is so disrespected and underprivileged.

Weirdo behavior. You keep mockingly mention how he’s underprivileged and disrespected like it’s his fault who his dad is. Hating somebody for that while he could be on the coast of some tropical country but instead he worked his way to possibly an NBA rotation is bizarre.

Same weird behavior when you come in here claiming he has arrived because he had one acceptable NBA game. He is only in because of who is dad is, not because what he has done.

There are quite a few sons of former NBA players that have played in the league and most (maybe all) got drafted on merit in college, signed as an undrafted free agent and worked their way into the league. If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college. Sorry if that rubs me the wrong way, but it would if he was a mailman, dentist, or police officer too.

I heard a stat (Duncd On, I think) that the only rookies drafted at Bronny's spot or later to have 17/5 their rookie year were (if I can remember the names) Ramon Sessions, Isaiah Thomas, Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, and Aaron Wiggins. That's one HOFer, one All-Star, two starter level players, and Aaron Wiggins who is turning out to be a valuable rotation player. Him having a good game certainly doesn't mean that he is going to be a rotation player for a decade like the other guys, but it does develop a baseline level of competence that 2nd rounders don't often show this early.

He's averaging 20/5/5/2 on .572 TS% (36.1% from three on 8 attempts per game) in the G-League. I think it is far to say at this point that he was an acceptable pick at 55 as he has the talent to at least be career AAA type player - there were a couple undrafted players that may have been better late picks (Justin Edwards and Trey Alexander were mostly expected to be drafted and weren't - Edwards is a legit NBA player today for Philly and Alexander has been bad for the Nuggets but fantastic in the G-League) but Bronny has shown at least as much as another ~10 players drafted in the second round.

 

[General Malaise]

Can't wait to watch the Blazers smack around Boston tomorrow.

Boston up 10 after 1st Q. Shot well from 3, had 12 bench points. Portland looks good on offense, but 34 points defensively is not good against a team missing 3 starters. Tatum dominating with 6pts, 4 assts, 3 rbds and a steal in the qtr (played all 12 min).

If Portland can start to slow down Bostons offense and keep up their scoring, this will be a tight game. Tatum about to sit for 1/2 of the 2nd Q.

Not a lot of defense in this one. Both teams shot over 40% from 3 and were very efficient on offense. Celtics backups can score, but their defense is nowhere near as good without Brown, Holiday and Porzingis.

It was pretty even after the 1st quarter. Tatum with 30p/9a/9r/2b/1s and got a T with 20 seconds left barking at the official.

Toumani Camara with -14 +/- very Bronnyesque.

 

[Moe.]

People everywhere, and definitely in this thread, were acting like he was a make a wish kid and he may end up being a rotational nba player after all. Incredible.

That poor kid, growing up like he did, getting drafted so late. He has overcome so much in his life. Can't wait for the movie.

You don’t have to hate him you know. You likely have no reason to. You can just let it go.

We can all like and dislike whatever players we want for whatever reason.

So you don't have to carry the torch for him because he is so disrespected and underprivileged.

Weirdo behavior. You keep mockingly mention how he’s underprivileged and disrespected like it’s his fault who his dad is. Hating somebody for that while he could be on the coast of some tropical country but instead he worked his way to possibly an NBA rotation is bizarre.

Same weird behavior when you come in here claiming he has arrived because he had one acceptable NBA game. He is only in because of who is dad is, not because what he has done.

There are quite a few sons of former NBA players that have played in the league and most (maybe all) got drafted on merit in college, signed as an undrafted free agent and worked their way into the league. If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college. Sorry if that rubs me the wrong way, but it would if he was a mailman, dentist, or police officer too.

I heard a stat (Duncd On, I think) that the only rookies drafted at Bronny's spot or later to have 17/5 their rookie year were (if I can remember the names) Ramon Sessions, Isaiah Thomas, Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, and Aaron Wiggins. That's one HOFer, one All-Star, two starter level players, and Aaron Wiggins who is turning out to be a valuable rotation player. Him having a good game certainly doesn't mean that he is going to be a rotation player for a decade like the other guys, but it does develop a baseline level of competence that 2nd rounders don't often show this early.

He's averaging 20/5/5/2 on .572 TS% (36.1% from three on 8 attempts per game) in the G-League. I think it is far to say at this point that he was an acceptable pick at 55 as he has the talent to at least be career AAA type player - there were a couple undrafted players that may have been better late picks (Justin Edwards and Trey Alexander were mostly expected to be drafted and weren't - Edwards is a legit NBA player today for Philly and Alexander has been bad for the Nuggets but fantastic in the G-League) but Bronny has shown at least as much as another ~10 players drafted in the second round.

Only a few players drafted at that level actually get minutes, so of course that list is pretty small.

Both sides of this are frustrating. The only reason Bronny is getting minutes at all is because of who he is. Having said that - he’s done a solid job given that context and he seems to belong just fine. It probably says more about how close together all the fringe players are than anything else. I think a lot of people we’ve never heard of who will never get a chance could do something similar to what Bronny is doing given the opportunity. Bronny is getting the opportunity because of his dad, and that’s fine. That’s how life works.

 

[msudaisy26]

People everywhere, and definitely in this thread, were acting like he was a make a wish kid and he may end up being a rotational nba player after all. Incredible.

That poor kid, growing up like he did, getting drafted so late. He has overcome so much in his life. Can't wait for the movie.

You don’t have to hate him you know. You likely have no reason to. You can just let it go.

We can all like and dislike whatever players we want for whatever reason.

So you don't have to carry the torch for him because he is so disrespected and underprivileged.

Weirdo behavior. You keep mockingly mention how he’s underprivileged and disrespected like it’s his fault who his dad is. Hating somebody for that while he could be on the coast of some tropical country but instead he worked his way to possibly an NBA rotation is bizarre.

Same weird behavior when you come in here claiming he has arrived because he had one acceptable NBA game. He is only in because of who is dad is, not because what he has done.

There are quite a few sons of former NBA players that have played in the league and most (maybe all) got drafted on merit in college, signed as an undrafted free agent and worked their way into the league. If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college. Sorry if that rubs me the wrong way, but it would if he was a mailman, dentist, or police officer too.

I heard a stat (Duncd On, I think) that the only rookies drafted at Bronny's spot or later to have 17/5 their rookie year were (if I can remember the names) Ramon Sessions, Isaiah Thomas, Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, and Aaron Wiggins. That's one HOFer, one All-Star, two starter level players, and Aaron Wiggins who is turning out to be a valuable rotation player. Him having a good game certainly doesn't mean that he is going to be a rotation player for a decade like the other guys, but it does develop a baseline level of competence that 2nd rounders don't often show this early.

He's averaging 20/5/5/2 on .572 TS% (36.1% from three on 8 attempts per game) in the G-League. I think it is far to say at this point that he was an acceptable pick at 55 as he has the talent to at least be career AAA type player - there were a couple undrafted players that may have been better late picks (Justin Edwards and Trey Alexander were mostly expected to be drafted and weren't - Edwards is a legit NBA player today for Philly and Alexander has been bad for the Nuggets but fantastic in the G-League) but Bronny has shown at least as much as another ~10 players drafted in the second round.

I am little confused are you comparing his rookie g league stats to all those guys that were playing in the NBA?

 

[the moops]

I am little confused are you comparing his rookie g league stats to all those guys that were playing in the NBA?

You are reading that wrong. The list of players was having a game like that not a season.

 

[msudaisy26]

I am little confused are you comparing his rookie g league stats to all those guys that were playing in the NBA?

You are reading that wrong. The list of players was having a game like that not a season.

Thanks.