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Oh boy...here we go....cancel culture powers activate.
How about we avoid rush to judgement and get some facts?
How about we avoid rush to judgement and get some facts?
Oh boy...here we go....cancel culture powers activate.
How about we avoid rush to judgement and get some facts?
There is so much harm to be had by rushing to judgment; little lost by waiting and seeing the evidence.
I'm confused here. Are you saying we should or shouldn't rush to judge him before waiting on the evidence?I feel bad having given this guy my attention and starting a thread about him.
I'm confused here. Are you saying we should or shouldn't rush to judge him before waiting on the evidence?
Hmmm I guess this is confusing to me but maybe just difference of opinions. You're saying society should wait until the facts before judging. If that's the case, then it shouldn't mean he deserves to be stopped being discussed as a Punter.It's not mutually exclusive. It's a terrible story and one that leaves me with unease. Society, and especially the legal system, should wait until the facts are in before judging. Doesn't mean I want him front-and-center as somebody to be discussed when we're trying to enjoy football.
Hmmm I guess this is confusing to me but maybe just difference of opinions. You're saying society should wait until the facts before judging. If that's the case, then it shouldn't mean he deserves to be stopped being discussed as a Punter.
If we don't judge him until facts come out, then there's zero reason to say that it no longer applies.that no longer applies.
If we don't judge him until facts come out, then there's zero reason to say that it no longer applies.that no longer applies.
I'll take it to the Ariza threadDeamon, the stink of the story is enough. He has pretty much admitted to sex with a minor and giving her an STD. Not sure what angle you're looking for. We aren't just going to stick our heads in the sand and have a laugh and a romp because of the punter. That's about it. Sort of done discussing it.
No. 2nd and 3rd teamers started.Did the bills starters play tonight?
haha wow. I just looked at the box score and saw that he was the one punting. He have any history with this? Just let him do it and what a weapon that would be to fake punts and throw. You know, if he could actually throw.Matt Barkley just uncorked a 53 yard punt. Might as well cut Araiza and make Barkley part of the 53 man team and he can punt the like 20 times the Bills will punt all season.
Matt Haack was statistically the worst punter in the league last year. Just about anyone else will be an upgrade.Obviously I don't want Araiza on our team if he did what he was accused of doing. That said, I really hope this season doesn't due to a shanked punt or bobbled snap because my head might literally explode. (Not "literally" as in "metaphorically" -- "literally" like in Scanners.)
Do those guys hold for kicks? That's my bigger concern - not the punting ability, the impact on FGs for what could be some close games out of the gate.Matt Haack was statistically the worst punter in the league last year. Just about anyone else will be an upgrade.Obviously I don't want Araiza on our team if he did what he was accused of doing. That said, I really hope this season doesn't due to a shanked punt or bobbled snap because my head might literally explode. (Not "literally" as in "metaphorically" -- "literally" like in Scanners.)
The Titans have a 3 time Pro Bowl punter they are likely cutting Tuesday in favor of a rookie punter who has been booming it.
Michael Palardy punted for the Dolphins last year and finished middle of the pack statistically, though 40% of his punts ended inside the 20 yard line and he lead the league in fair catch percentage. Palardy is a free agent right now.
I honestly don’t know for sure, but I would assume so as that is pretty much standard at this point.Do those guys hold for kicks? That's my bigger concern - not the punting ability, the impact on FGs for what could be some close games out of the gate.Matt Haack was statistically the worst punter in the league last year. Just about anyone else will be an upgrade.Obviously I don't want Araiza on our team if he did what he was accused of doing. That said, I really hope this season doesn't due to a shanked punt or bobbled snap because my head might literally explode. (Not "literally" as in "metaphorically" -- "literally" like in Scanners.)
The Titans have a 3 time Pro Bowl punter they are likely cutting Tuesday in favor of a rookie punter who has been booming it.
Michael Palardy punted for the Dolphins last year and finished middle of the pack statistically, though 40% of his punts ended inside the 20 yard line and he lead the league in fair catch percentage. Palardy is a free agent right now.
I've never understood why that has become the standard... Why would you not want the backup QB (someone who can throw), or a backup WR/RB (someone who can run) taking that snap to both help with fakes, and to keep the defense more honest? The only thing I've ever been able to come up with is injury to the backup QB, but when is the last time you've heard of a holder getting his fingers smashed by a kicker? Pretty sure that only happens in back yards. The other thing would be practice time. QBs, RBs, WRs, need more time to practice with their groups, but do they really - the backups? One of them can't find time to practice spotting kicks?I honestly don’t know for sure, but I would assume so as that is pretty much standard at this point.Do those guys hold for kicks? That's my bigger concern - not the punting ability, the impact on FGs for what could be some close games out of the gate.Matt Haack was statistically the worst punter in the league last year. Just about anyone else will be an upgrade.Obviously I don't want Araiza on our team if he did what he was accused of doing. That said, I really hope this season doesn't due to a shanked punt or bobbled snap because my head might literally explode. (Not "literally" as in "metaphorically" -- "literally" like in Scanners.)
The Titans have a 3 time Pro Bowl punter they are likely cutting Tuesday in favor of a rookie punter who has been booming it.
Michael Palardy punted for the Dolphins last year and finished middle of the pack statistically, though 40% of his punts ended inside the 20 yard line and he lead the league in fair catch percentage. Palardy is a free agent right now.
It's practice. The backup QB is practicing with the other skill position players while the specialists are working on FGs and PATs. My understanding is that pretty much literally nobody uses their backup QB for this any more specifically because of the practice issues.I've never understood why that has become the standard... Why would you not want the backup QB (someone who can throw), or a backup WR/RB (someone who can run) taking that snap to both help with fakes, and to keep the defense more honest? The only thing I've ever been able to come up with is injury to the backup QB, but when is the last time you've heard of a holder getting his fingers smashed by a kicker? Pretty sure that only happens in back yards. The other thing would be practice time. QBs, RBs, WRs, need more time to practice with their groups, but do they really - the backups? One of them can't find time to practice spotting kicks?
[Rapoport] #Broncos P Sam Martin is being released today by Denver after indicating he would refuse any pay reduction. He was a top 5 punter statistically in 2021 and set Broncos all-time record for net punting last season. Will have interest.Bring in Brett Kern. Easy choice for a homecoming, play out the end of a very nice career for the hometown team, and have a chance to win a title while you're at it.
Great point. Araiza never held in college & spent offseason working on that. We just need consistent, reliable punter - conservative teams with limited offenses need the Pro Bowl punters.Do those guys hold for kicks? That's my bigger concern - not the punting ability, the impact on FGs for what could be some close games out of the gate.Matt Haack was statistically the worst punter in the league last year. Just about anyone else will be an upgrade.Obviously I don't want Araiza on our team if he did what he was accused of doing. That said, I really hope this season doesn't due to a shanked punt or bobbled snap because my head might literally explode. (Not "literally" as in "metaphorically" -- "literally" like in Scanners.)
The Titans have a 3 time Pro Bowl punter they are likely cutting Tuesday in favor of a rookie punter who has been booming it.
Michael Palardy punted for the Dolphins last year and finished middle of the pack statistically, though 40% of his punts ended inside the 20 yard line and he lead the league in fair catch percentage. Palardy is a free agent right now.
I haven’t heard anything like that, though there were definitely some issues with pass blocking from Cook last week. If that continues to be a struggle for him, it’s certainly possible that it could impact how much work he sees if Josh is taking hits because Cook is whiffing or getting blown up.Billsguys - all good with James Cook, yes? I have no reason to believe otherwise, and have been scouring as many outlets as I can find to corroborate...my high-stakes partner swears he heard something over the last few days that the Bills were unhappy about something regarding James Cook.
I can't find anything, for the life of me. Any of you mavens know of anything?
I don't think it's a huge surprise, but you got that one right.One potential “surprise” could be Howard cut or traded and one of Sweeney or Morris making the 53.
The only low-key thing I've heard about Cook is speculation that he won't see the field much early in the season. This coaching staff has a tendency to go real easy on rookies, presumably in the hope of having them fresh for crunch time. They did this with Singletary in his rookie year, and Moss two years ago. I think it's intentional.Billsguys - all good with James Cook, yes? I have no reason to believe otherwise, and have been scouring as many outlets as I can find to corroborate...my high-stakes partner swears he heard something over the last few days that the Bills were unhappy about something regarding James Cook.
I can't find anything, for the life of me. Any of you mavens know of anything?
I'll admit that I'm pretty surprised to see OJ Howard get cut. I know there was a lot of foreshadowing there and people have been speculating that his roster spot wasn't safe, but I just assumed he would get the nod over a guy like Sweeny (good locker room guy but not a very good football player). It's weird how this franchise is allergic to TEs.
As an out-of-towner, I was surprised by how much pot-stirring the local beat reporters did. Obviously this was a big story, but the national press moved on quickly after the Bills cut Araiza. It's kind of gross that guys like Fairburn feel compelled to keep litigating a case that's already concluded.Any Bills fans listen to the Buffalo Beat podcast? I’ve been a pretty regular listener for a while, but after their latest episode I’m not sure I’ll keep listening.
It was Joe Buscaglia, Matthew Fairburn, and Tim Graham discussing the Araiza thing. They made some good points and a lot of their criticism of how Buffalo handled the situation was fair…BUT there was an incredible amount of condescension towards the fans as well. They remarked several times about how shocked they were that Bills fans pretty unanimously wanted to cut him, and then spent quite a bit of time insinuating that fans wouldn’t have cared and would have ignored it if it was a more important position. It was incredibly condescending and basically an attitude that fans are kind of scummy and don’t care about anything except winning. Maybe they’re right, I don’t know. But it felt incredibly high and mighty and pointed at fans for seemingly no reason.
I’m not sure if these guys just spend too much time dealing with awful people on Twitter or what, but it seemed incredibly obnoxious and off putting. Frankly, I ended up turning it off and will likely deprioritize listening to it. Criticizing the Bills for mishandling it seemed fair game, but ripping Bills fans while straight up admitting that the fans were practically unified in their disgust seemed completely uncalled for and seemed to what what these guys really think of their audience.
Tim Graham is a notorious ****-stirrer, and absolutely insufferable on social media. Ego through the roof. He wanted so, so badly for the Bills to be caught doing something wrong here for the "I told ya so" moment. His long-form pieces are good and he's obviously a veteran reporter who does a fine job when he's actually researching and reporting, but he's a total blowhard otherwise (and not the only one in local media, if we're being honest). My Twitter feed is mostly just local sports writers, and I can't even stand to follow him. He's that bad on Twitter - it's argument after argument with people over nothing.As an out-of-towner, I was surprised by how much pot-stirring the local beat reporters did. Obviously this was a big story, but the national press moved on quickly after the Bills cut Araiza. It's kind of gross that guys like Fairburn feel compelled to keep litigating a case that's already concluded.Any Bills fans listen to the Buffalo Beat podcast? I’ve been a pretty regular listener for a while, but after their latest episode I’m not sure I’ll keep listening.
It was Joe Buscaglia, Matthew Fairburn, and Tim Graham discussing the Araiza thing. They made some good points and a lot of their criticism of how Buffalo handled the situation was fair…BUT there was an incredible amount of condescension towards the fans as well. They remarked several times about how shocked they were that Bills fans pretty unanimously wanted to cut him, and then spent quite a bit of time insinuating that fans wouldn’t have cared and would have ignored it if it was a more important position. It was incredibly condescending and basically an attitude that fans are kind of scummy and don’t care about anything except winning. Maybe they’re right, I don’t know. But it felt incredibly high and mighty and pointed at fans for seemingly no reason.
I’m not sure if these guys just spend too much time dealing with awful people on Twitter or what, but it seemed incredibly obnoxious and off putting. Frankly, I ended up turning it off and will likely deprioritize listening to it. Criticizing the Bills for mishandling it seemed fair game, but ripping Bills fans while straight up admitting that the fans were practically unified in their disgust seemed completely uncalled for and seemed to what what these guys really think of their audience.
As an out-of-towner, I was surprised by how much pot-stirring the local beat reporters did. Obviously this was a big story, but the national press moved on quickly after the Bills cut Araiza. It's kind of gross that guys like Fairburn feel compelled to keep litigating a case that's already concluded.Any Bills fans listen to the Buffalo Beat podcast? I’ve been a pretty regular listener for a while, but after their latest episode I’m not sure I’ll keep listening.
It was Joe Buscaglia, Matthew Fairburn, and Tim Graham discussing the Araiza thing. They made some good points and a lot of their criticism of how Buffalo handled the situation was fair…BUT there was an incredible amount of condescension towards the fans as well. They remarked several times about how shocked they were that Bills fans pretty unanimously wanted to cut him, and then spent quite a bit of time insinuating that fans wouldn’t have cared and would have ignored it if it was a more important position. It was incredibly condescending and basically an attitude that fans are kind of scummy and don’t care about anything except winning. Maybe they’re right, I don’t know. But it felt incredibly high and mighty and pointed at fans for seemingly no reason.
I’m not sure if these guys just spend too much time dealing with awful people on Twitter or what, but it seemed incredibly obnoxious and off putting. Frankly, I ended up turning it off and will likely deprioritize listening to it. Criticizing the Bills for mishandling it seemed fair game, but ripping Bills fans while straight up admitting that the fans were practically unified in their disgust seemed completely uncalled for and seemed to what what these guys really think of their audience.
Dorsey got high praise from Cam Newton, who had his MVP season with Dorsey as QB coach. He also got fired after a couple of down seasons from Newton. I think Allen's slight reduction in efficiency last year, compared to 2020, was due in part to accuracy issues in the games I saw. Dorsey should be fine as coordinator calling plays, but how much better can a QB play than his 2020 season.What does this group think of this take:
The change at O coordinator is just as likely to be a PLUS as a MINUS.
When looking for reasons why the Bills may struggle, a common take is the risk associated with coordinator change. But no one talks about this being a potentially beneficial change.
I get why Daboll is highly regarded. He did a great job as part of the team that developed Allen. But I don’t think he is some guru in play calling or concepts. There are a lot of things to point to where his play calling was poor.
He had no great track record, his success came with Allen’s. I think it is entirely possible that Daboll is an average coordinator and there is potential for a step up with Dorsey.
I have to keep reminding myself that our schedule is absolutely set up for a 3-3 start on the way to a 13-4 season.Rams win tonight by a 1-score margin. Bills play well and it doesn't dampen any enthusiasm overall for the season. Offense looks good for the most part, defense solid. Aaron Donald makes a huge play or two, and the Bills young CBs get beat in a couple of crucial plays. Maybe something like 34-31, something along those lines.
Seems kinda wild seeing everyone picking against the reigning SB champs at home, when the Rams didn't really take much of a step back compared to last year.
I could see either team winning. Both very good teams. Hoping the difference ends up being that the Rams lost Von Miller and the Bills added Von Miller. The Rams were a better defense last year after they added Miller. My biggest worry is Buffalo’s CBs. If Tre were healthy and playing, I’d be way more confident. Should be a fun game either way.Rams win tonight by a 1-score margin. Bills play well and it doesn't dampen any enthusiasm overall for the season. Offense looks good for the most part, defense solid. Aaron Donald makes a huge play or two, and the Bills young CBs get beat in a couple of crucial plays. Maybe something like 34-31, something along those lines.
Seems kinda wild seeing everyone picking against the reigning SB champs at home, when the Rams didn't really take much of a step back compared to last year.