2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (4 Viewers)

[Ramblin Wreck]

They (Indiana) didn't lose to an Arkansas like Tennessee. They didn't lose to an Oklahoma like Alabama.

No they did not.

But outside of Ohio State, they also didn't play any team as good as Arkansas (32) and Oklahoma (23).

You are really nitpicking if you think there is a serious difference between those teams and Michigan/Washington. None of the 4 are anyone you should be losing to and making the playoffs.

I see a difference between a group that has the 45th and 34th best teams (Washington and Michigan) vs a group that has the 32nd and 23rd best teams (Arkansas and Oklahoma). https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi

Oklahoma has wins against Temple, Maine, Houston (barely), Tulane and Alabama. If something ranks them #23 then that something should be heavily questioned. They just haven't been very good especially before Venables fired his OC.

 

[General Malaise]

Well....we are getting 12 teams in this year. I have this feeling SEC honks are sharpening their claws to claim they still deserve 5 spots because they play the hardest schedule of all, even though 3 of their top dogs played against kindergarten teams this past week.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Well....we are getting 12 teams in this year. I have this feeling SEC honks are sharpening their claws to claim they still deserve 5 spots because they play the hardest schedule of all, even though 3 of their top dogs played against kindergarten teams this past week.

Wait for the Alabama deserves a spot over Indiana because Vegas would favor Alabama on a neutral field discussion point.

 

[General Malaise]

Well....we are getting 12 teams in this year. I have this feeling SEC honks are sharpening their claws to claim they still deserve 5 spots because they play the hardest schedule of all, even though 3 of their top dogs played against kindergarten teams this past week.

Wait for the Alabama deserves a spot over Indiana because Vegas would favor Alabama on a neutral field discussion point.

Q: What do Alabama and Temple have in common?



A: Neither could score a touchdown against Oklahoma.



Something Maine did twice!

 

[FairWarning]

SEC teams playing Wofford, UMAS and UTEP the last week of November needs to stop. I don't want to hear another bleeping word about strength of schedule when those are the teams on the schedule when we're all shopping for turkeys. It is insanity for that league to thump their chest about being the best in breed when they play doormats when other schools are playing other real schools.

To be fair, the SEC starts their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else. Most play their final non conference game the week before their big rival.

 

[FairWarning]

Obviously Michigan isn’t going anywhere, but they did play an insane schedule. If Illinois beats NW and wins their bowl, Michigan would have played five teams with 10+ wins - Oregon, Texas, Ind, Ill, and Ohio State- four of them probable playoff teams.

 

[Moe.]

They (Indiana) didn't lose to an Arkansas like Tennessee. They didn't lose to an Oklahoma like Alabama.

No they did not.

But outside of Ohio State, they also didn't play any team as good as Arkansas (32) and Oklahoma (23).

You are really nitpicking if you think there is a serious difference between those teams and Michigan/Washington. None of the 4 are anyone you should be losing to and making the playoffs.

I see a difference between a group that has the 45th and 34th best teams (Washington and Michigan) vs a group that has the 32nd and 23rd best teams (Arkansas and Oklahoma). https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi

Oklahoma has wins against Temple, Maine, Houston (barely), Tulane and Alabama. If something ranks them #23 then that something should be heavily questioned. They just haven't been very good especially before Venables fired his OC.

You forgot Auburn. Tulane is somehow ranked in the top 25 now. Basically if OU beats LSU this weekend we should be in the playoff.

 

[FairWarning]

Just make it a 16-team playoff - the entire SEC and Ohio State.

Fun fact of the day - Kentucky’s trip to Texas Saturday was the farthest west UK ever traveled for a game.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I’m going to love hearing all the people/SEC coaches that spent the last week arguing a conference championship game loss shouldn’t penalize a team for playoff purposes all of a sudden explaining how a previously 1-loss SMU/Mia ACC loser should get passed up by a 3-loss SEC team who didn’t even make their conference championship.

SEC or not, SMU is going to have a tough argument for being included if they finish the season 0-2 against ranked teams.

In their defense, SMU defeated a few teams while they were ranked but those teams couldn't keep it together after getting stomped by the Mustangs.

Well Georgia Tech beat FSU when they were ranked in the top 10, but that doesn't really mean much because we now know FSU was not a top 10 quality opponent, even if we mistakenly thought they were at the time.

I doubt the committee cares at all about what a team was ranked when they were beaten compared to what we know them to be in the end. The reality is if SMU loses the ACC championship they will have played two top 25 quality opponents and lost both, which I think will bite them when the time comes to pick those last couple teams. But to their credit, most of the other 2-3 loss teams in contention don't have many ranked wins either. But I think a 3-loss team that is 2-2 against ranked opponents has a better case than a 2-loss team that is 0-2 against ranked opponents.

Yeah, does the SOS component not use ELO or some other method to try to sort out which teams are actually the best to that point in the season based on who else they have beaten and their statistical resume, etc etc?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I know some people love it but the beauty pageant subjectiveness of it makes me not care that much. The dismissal of strength of schedule is wild. I've no doubt I'm in the minority there.

Okay, you're in charge of college football now. What would you do to remedy all of this subjectiveness?

Easy.

I think I'm back to where I started: Nobody really knows.

The current system is a subjective beauty pageant that feels massively flawed and unfair in rewarding the best teams. And by “best teams”, I actually mean best teams.

And of course, that’s the real question here. In this current setup, defining “Best” is a challenge.

I feel certain the NCAA as a whole is not smart enough or organized enough to have intentionally orchestrated this, but it feels like they’ve locked in to system that attracts attention.

And in 2024, attention is the gold standard and primary metric.

So it seems like it’s working for them.

And I don’t see it changing anytime soon.

But if you let me be in charge: A 32 or 48-team superconference for just college football can make sense. Mike Leach talked about that and I think Chip Kelly did as well. I would put some sort of NIL salary cap factor in place and organize into two Conferences with Divisions of four teams.

Seems like we’ve seen that work pretty well…

But that’s too radical for most. It solves a problem that I may have with fairness, but it seems clear the current way gets loads of attention.

And as we said, attention is what wins.

I’m always ready to crap on the ncaa, but we’re still sitting here having the same arguments that people have going through for 50years and you don’t think that the ncaa knows what it’s doing?

 

[General Malaise]

SEC teams playing Wofford, UMAS and UTEP the last week of November needs to stop. I don't want to hear another bleeping word about strength of schedule when those are the teams on the schedule when we're all shopping for turkeys. It is insanity for that league to thump their chest about being the best in breed when they play doormats when other schools are playing other real schools.

To be fair, the SEC starts their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else. Most play their final non conference game the week before their big rival.

Huh....

Alabama went Western Kentucky, South Florida and Wisconsin to start off 2024. They did have to survive Mercer on Nov. 16. Strength of Schedule indeed.

 

[belljr]

I know some people love it but the beauty pageant subjectiveness of it makes me not care that much. The dismissal of strength of schedule is wild. I've no doubt I'm in the minority there.

Okay, you're in charge of college football now. What would you do to remedy all of this subjectiveness?

Easy.

I think I'm back to where I started: Nobody really knows.

The current system is a subjective beauty pageant that feels massively flawed and unfair in rewarding the best teams. And by “best teams”, I actually mean best teams.

And of course, that’s the real question here. In this current setup, defining “Best” is a challenge.

I feel certain the NCAA as a whole is not smart enough or organized enough to have intentionally orchestrated this, but it feels like they’ve locked in to system that attracts attention.

And in 2024, attention is the gold standard and primary metric.

So it seems like it’s working for them.

And I don’t see it changing anytime soon.

But if you let me be in charge: A 32 or 48-team superconference for just college football can make sense. Mike Leach talked about that and I think Chip Kelly did as well. I would put some sort of NIL salary cap factor in place and organize into two Conferences with Divisions of four teams.

Seems like we’ve seen that work pretty well…

But that’s too radical for most. It solves a problem that I may have with fairness, but it seems clear the current way gets loads of attention.

And as we said, attention is what wins.

I’m always ready to crap on the ncaa, but we’re still sitting here having the same arguments that people have going through for 50years and you don’t think that the ncaa knows what it’s doing?

Good point.. at least we are past split national champions...

Don't know how to break it to people but the same attention was happening the old ways just differently.....this is not new to 2024

35 million people watched the 2006 Rose Bowl

When tv rights became decentralized around 1985. It was estimated that games were pulling 22 shares

National Championship Game Numbers Game

Ratings for college football's national championship game dating back to the 1985-86 season, with viewership dating back to the 1998-99 season.Since the

www.sportsmediawatch.com

 

[FairWarning]

SEC teams playing Wofford, UMAS and UTEP the last week of November needs to stop. I don't want to hear another bleeping word about strength of schedule when those are the teams on the schedule when we're all shopping for turkeys. It is insanity for that league to thump their chest about being the best in breed when they play doormats when other schools are playing other real schools.

To be fair, the SEC starts their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else. Most play their final non conference game the week before their big rival.

Huh....

Alabama went Western Kentucky, South Florida and Wisconsin to start off 2024. They did have to survive Mercer on Nov. 16. Strength of Schedule indeed.

Few SEC teams are playing good non conference teams. ND does have a SEC team on their schedule for the next decade, play TAMU and Arky in 25.

The Bama spin about Mercer was great schict.

 

[Beef Ravioli Part 2]

Fun fact of the day - Kentucky’s trip to Texas Saturday was the farthest west UK ever traveled for a game.

Forreal?! That seems impossible. Not saying I don’t believe you, just surprised.

 

[General Malaise]

SEC teams playing Wofford, UMAS and UTEP the last week of November needs to stop. I don't want to hear another bleeping word about strength of schedule when those are the teams on the schedule when we're all shopping for turkeys. It is insanity for that league to thump their chest about being the best in breed when they play doormats when other schools are playing other real schools.

To be fair, the SEC starts their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else. Most play their final non conference game the week before their big rival.

Huh....

Alabama went Western Kentucky, South Florida and Wisconsin to start off 2024. They did have to survive Mercer on Nov. 16. Strength of Schedule indeed.

Few SEC teams are playing good non conference teams. ND does have a SEC team on their schedule for the next decade, play TAMU and Arky in 25.

The Bama spin about Mercer was great schict.

That wasn't even close to a rebuttal. You said "SEC teams start their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else" and I proved you wrong. You come back with Notre Dame and 'schict'? Go get your shoe shine box.

 

[dickey moe]

I'd like to see uniformity in all conferences.

I think you'd need some sort of overarching athletic association, ideally one that included all colleges and operated on a national level.

I just LOL'd.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

Anecdotal, but I haven't run into a single person that actual has said they feel a 3 loss Alabama should be in over 1 loss Indiana. Not one. Pretty glum around here to be honest.

Eta: honest fans understand 3 losses means you're out of consideration. There's chatter on sports talk radio but that's about it.

 

[culdeus]

SEC teams playing Wofford, UMAS and UTEP the last week of November needs to stop. I don't want to hear another bleeping word about strength of schedule when those are the teams on the schedule when we're all shopping for turkeys. It is insanity for that league to thump their chest about being the best in breed when they play doormats when other schools are playing other real schools.

To be fair, the SEC starts their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else. Most play their final non conference game the week before their big rival.

Huh....

Alabama went Western Kentucky, South Florida and Wisconsin to start off 2024. They did have to survive Mercer on Nov. 16. Strength of Schedule indeed.

Few SEC teams are playing good non conference teams. ND does have a SEC team on their schedule for the next decade, play TAMU and Arky in 25.

The Bama spin about Mercer was great schict.

That wasn't even close to a rebuttal. You said "SEC teams start their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else" and I proved you wrong. You come back with Notre Dame and 'schict'? Go get your shoe shine box.

The other reason they do this is more or less for charity. These games fund whole athletic department budgets.

 

[Instinctive]

They (Indiana) didn't lose to an Arkansas like Tennessee. They didn't lose to an Oklahoma like Alabama.

No they did not.

But outside of Ohio State, they also didn't play any team as good as Arkansas (32) and Oklahoma (23).

An Oklahoma team that quite frankly has blown like 3-4 very winnable games in spite of being without their top 6 WRs and 2-3 out of their top 5 OL for every game of conference play. FWIW.

 

[Instinctive]

They (Indiana) didn't lose to an Arkansas like Tennessee. They didn't lose to an Oklahoma like Alabama.

No they did not.

But outside of Ohio State, they also didn't play any team as good as Arkansas (32) and Oklahoma (23).

You are really nitpicking if you think there is a serious difference between those teams and Michigan/Washington. None of the 4 are anyone you should be losing to and making the playoffs.

I see a difference between a group that has the 45th and 34th best teams (Washington and Michigan) vs a group that has the 32nd and 23rd best teams (Arkansas and Oklahoma). https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi

Oklahoma has wins against Temple, Maine, Houston (barely), Tulane and Alabama. If something ranks them #23 then that something should be heavily questioned. They just haven't been very good especially before Venables fired his OC.

Man Littrell was so bad.

Although also they are possibly the most injured offense in all of college football.

 

[Manster]

Huge Boise fan the rest of the way.

Coworker's son got an invite to watch the BSU/NEV game last weekend - a few of his teammates joined him. I'd love it if BSU offered him (he's a junior, but plays with the Oregon Offensive Player of the Year at LO who DOES have an offer from BSU among other schools) so I'm rooting for 'em too (well, not when they play Oregon, but I know why you root for them. )

Yea, I'm a Beaver, but I have ton of family in Boise area. My mom grew up there. So I know a lot of Boise fans. I always root for em unless they're playing the Beavs. Also, Nike U is the evil empire as far as I'm concerned......in the Willamette valley all the sudden everyone is a duck fan! Lol

Evil empire lol, jealousy is strong in this one

Nah.....I used to be a little jealous of the quacks, and all their Nike money. But as time has gone on, I'm just kind of turned off by all of it. The NIL/portal, along with universities bowing down to the almighty tv execs.......college football is literally about who can spend the most money to buy a team now. Traditions, and rivalries don't mean anything unless the tv execs deem it so. My hope is that within 5 years we have real, regional college football, separate from the SEC/big 10. They can go be a minor league of the NFL, or whatever the goal is. I'd also like to see NIL/Portal reeled in. It's the wild west. And I'd like to see the other sports re-align regionally. For instance, no reason to not have the Pac 12 back together for sports like baseball/softball.

 

[Nugget]

When do they institute the salary cap?

 

[jamny]

Go Broncos!
#Hei2man

 

[swabs]

Obviously Michigan isn’t going anywhere, but they did play an insane schedule. If Illinois beats NW and wins their bowl, Michigan would have played five teams with 10+ wins - Oregon, Texas, Ind, Ill, and Ohio State- four of them probable playoff teams.

Then there's Penn St.

 

[Tin Cup]

Obviously Michigan isn’t going anywhere, but they did play an insane schedule. If Illinois beats NW and wins their bowl, Michigan would have played five teams with 10+ wins - Oregon, Texas, Ind, Ill, and Ohio State- four of them probable playoff teams.

Then there's Penn St.

What about Penn State? They’ve beaten more P4 bowl-eligible teams than Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, or Oregon. And as many or more total bowl-eligible teams as anyone other that Texas.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

If the committee really wants to troll tonight, they will put both Boise and Tulane ahead of Arizona St, Iowa St, Alabama, South Carolina, Clemson, Ole Miss and Texas A&M.

 

[FairWarning]

Obviously Michigan isn’t going anywhere, but they did play an insane schedule. If Illinois beats NW and wins their bowl, Michigan would have played five teams with 10+ wins - Oregon, Texas, Ind, Ill, and Ohio State- four of them probable playoff teams.

Then there's Penn St.

What about Penn State? They’ve beaten more P4 bowl-eligible teams than Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, or Oregon. And as many or more total bowl-eligible teams as anyone other that Texas.

None of the teams they beat will get a sniff of the playoffs.

 

[FairWarning]

SEC teams playing Wofford, UMAS and UTEP the last week of November needs to stop. I don't want to hear another bleeping word about strength of schedule when those are the teams on the schedule when we're all shopping for turkeys. It is insanity for that league to thump their chest about being the best in breed when they play doormats when other schools are playing other real schools.

To be fair, the SEC starts their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else. Most play their final non conference game the week before their big rival.

Huh....

Alabama went Western Kentucky, South Florida and Wisconsin to start off 2024. They did have to survive Mercer on Nov. 16. Strength of Schedule indeed.

Actually what I should have said was the SEC plays 8 conference games while others play 9, thus they play that last OOC game right before their big rival. There was talk about going to a 9 game schedule when Texas and OU was added, the conference decided 8 is enough for now. Arky was to play at ND and cancelled because they thought it would go to 9. The game will be made up in a couple of years

 

[Tin Cup]

Obviously Michigan isn’t going anywhere, but they did play an insane schedule. If Illinois beats NW and wins their bowl, Michigan would have played five teams with 10+ wins - Oregon, Texas, Ind, Ill, and Ohio State- four of them probable playoff teams.

Then there's Penn St.

What about Penn State? They’ve beaten more P4 bowl-eligible teams than Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, or Oregon. And as many or more total bowl-eligible teams as anyone other that Texas.

None of the teams they beat will get a sniff of the playoffs.

When did they move the goalposts way over there? 11 of the teams that make the playoffs will lose sometime during them, too.

 

[FairWarning]

Obviously Michigan isn’t going anywhere, but they did play an insane schedule. If Illinois beats NW and wins their bowl, Michigan would have played five teams with 10+ wins - Oregon, Texas, Ind, Ill, and Ohio State- four of them probable playoff teams.

Then there's Penn St.

What about Penn State? They’ve beaten more P4 bowl-eligible teams than Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, or Oregon. And as many or more total bowl-eligible teams as anyone other that Texas.

None of the teams they beat will get a sniff of the playoffs.

When did they move the goalposts way over there? 11 of the teams that make the playoffs will lose sometime during them, too.

No one knows how good Penn St is. ND and Texas are in the same boat.

 

[General Malaise]

SEC teams playing Wofford, UMAS and UTEP the last week of November needs to stop. I don't want to hear another bleeping word about strength of schedule when those are the teams on the schedule when we're all shopping for turkeys. It is insanity for that league to thump their chest about being the best in breed when they play doormats when other schools are playing other real schools.

To be fair, the SEC starts their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else. Most play their final non conference game the week before their big rival.

Huh....

Alabama went Western Kentucky, South Florida and Wisconsin to start off 2024. They did have to survive Mercer on Nov. 16. Strength of Schedule indeed.

Actually what I should have said was the SEC plays 8 conference games while others play 9, thus they play that last OOC game right before their big rival. There was talk about going to a 9 game schedule when Texas and OU was added, the conference decided 8 is enough for now. Arky was to play at ND and cancelled because they thought it would go to 9. The game will be made up in a couple of years

I would like to see the SEC play 9 conference games if the other conferences are doing that as well. Not sure if it ever happens, but I'd sure rather the Ducks were playing Hawaii or Mercer or UMASS this week and not UW.

 

[SWC]

wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans

 

[FairWarning]

SEC teams playing Wofford, UMAS and UTEP the last week of November needs to stop. I don't want to hear another bleeping word about strength of schedule when those are the teams on the schedule when we're all shopping for turkeys. It is insanity for that league to thump their chest about being the best in breed when they play doormats when other schools are playing other real schools.

To be fair, the SEC starts their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else. Most play their final non conference game the week before their big rival.

Huh....

Alabama went Western Kentucky, South Florida and Wisconsin to start off 2024. They did have to survive Mercer on Nov. 16. Strength of Schedule indeed.

Actually what I should have said was the SEC plays 8 conference games while others play 9, thus they play that last OOC game right before their big rival. There was talk about going to a 9 game schedule when Texas and OU was added, the conference decided 8 is enough for now. Arky was to play at ND and cancelled because they thought it would go to 9. The game will be made up in a couple of years

I would like to see the SEC play 9 conference games if the other conferences are doing that as well. Not sure if it ever happens, but I'd sure rather the Ducks were playing Hawaii or Mercer or UMASS this week and not UW.

I agree, but college football never agrees on anything.

 

[FairWarning]

wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans

It’s a pretty stale program at this point.

 

[General Malaise]

wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans

My man! Your Badgers put a real scare into me, GB and that was about as worried as I've been in weeks about the Ducks but survive and advance, just like you 'Ol SWCer, just keep on keeping on and that's what we're going to do!

 

[General Malaise]

SEC teams playing Wofford, UMAS and UTEP the last week of November needs to stop. I don't want to hear another bleeping word about strength of schedule when those are the teams on the schedule when we're all shopping for turkeys. It is insanity for that league to thump their chest about being the best in breed when they play doormats when other schools are playing other real schools.

To be fair, the SEC starts their conference schedule a week ahead of everyone else. Most play their final non conference game the week before their big rival.

Huh....

Alabama went Western Kentucky, South Florida and Wisconsin to start off 2024. They did have to survive Mercer on Nov. 16. Strength of Schedule indeed.

Actually what I should have said was the SEC plays 8 conference games while others play 9, thus they play that last OOC game right before their big rival. There was talk about going to a 9 game schedule when Texas and OU was added, the conference decided 8 is enough for now. Arky was to play at ND and cancelled because they thought it would go to 9. The game will be made up in a couple of years

I would like to see the SEC play 9 conference games if the other conferences are doing that as well. Not sure if it ever happens, but I'd sure rather the Ducks were playing Hawaii or Mercer or UMASS this week and not UW.

I agree, but college football never agrees on anything.

It's maddening. But yet, here I am.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Computers should decide. Determine a formula. Add something to the formula about playing good at year end and losing in the conference championship game not being a big penalty. Get the humans out of it.

 

[General Malaise]

Computers should decide. Determine a formula. Add something to the formula about playing good at year end and losing in the conference championship game not being a big penalty. Get the humans out of it.

Might I interest you in the BCS era?

 

[FairWarning]

Computers should decide. Determine a formula. Add something to the formula about playing good at year end and losing in the conference championship game not being a big penalty. Get the humans out of it.

What they really need to do is have the 2divisions in the big conferences again., then have your championship be the division winners.

 

[General Malaise]

Computers should decide. Determine a formula. Add something to the formula about playing good at year end and losing in the conference championship game not being a big penalty. Get the humans out of it.

What they really need to do is have the 2divisions in the big conferences again., then have your championship be the division winners.

The problem there was the inequity of the divisions. Not just the Big10 but the SEC West seemed to rule the roost before Georgia hired Kirby. In theory, this is how it should play out, but there has to be a way to balance out the competitiveness that was a major problem in the Big10.....

 

[Capella]

Computers should decide. Determine a formula. Add something to the formula about playing good at year end and losing in the conference championship game not being a big penalty. Get the humans out of it.

Might I interest you in the BCS era?

I mean…..in hindsight it kinda ruled

 

[FairWarning]

Computers should decide. Determine a formula. Add something to the formula about playing good at year end and losing in the conference championship game not being a big penalty. Get the humans out of it.

What they really need to do is have the 2divisions in the big conferences again., then have your championship be the division winners.

The problem there was the inequity of the divisions. Not just the Big10 but the SEC West seemed to rule the roost before Georgia hired Kirby. In theory, this is how it should play out, but there has to be a way to balance out the competitiveness that was a major problem in the Big10.....

With the conference added teams, it was the perfect time to realign the conferences.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans

I'm pretty certain they will lose to Minnesota at home on Friday and hopefully not make a bowl game. But who knows? It seems like any team with a pulse gets a bowl game these days and I guess more power to them.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans

My man! Your Badgers put a real scare into me, GB and that was about as worried as I've been in weeks about the Ducks but survive and advance, just like you 'Ol SWCer, just keep on keeping on and that's what we're going to do!

There is a small slice of good news from that game as new recruit 4 star QB Carter Smith reportedly committed to WI after experiencing the atmosphere at Camp Randal that night. Its a great story of modern college football. Smith had been committed to Michigan for over a year but decomitted when he learned Michigan were pursuing Bryce Underwood. Smith had committed to Jim Harbaugh, so likely didn't feel much loyalty. He got the Underwood news last month while in Michigan for a visit. He sat at the Big House watching the Michigan State game with the knowledge that he was no longer going to be the only QB of the Michigan 2025 class and would be competing with Underwood, poached from LSU with an NIL package reportedly in excess of $10m. Smith had a visit scheduled at Florida State but then learned FSU had just flipped Kevin Sperry from Oklahoma so that was no longer an option for him. Hours after Smith and his dad had met with the Wisconsin coaches, still giddy with excitement from the game, he learned that WI had just fired Offensive Coordinator Phil Longo mid-season. Now that Smith is committed to Wisconsin, there will be several other dominoes as the new OC, whoever it will be, has a shiny new toy and the guys who've been there a year or two will be portal-bound. There's no guarantee something else won't come up in the next few months, or years, that will have him on the move again. Luke Fickell might not survive into the new year. Its hard to feel sympathy for any of these guys but it must really suck to be a coach or recruit or player in these circumstances.

 

[ChiefD]

wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans

listen here @SWC er jump on the bandwagon and root for my sons team 'ol Concordia University in Mequon who won the Cheese Bowl again this year against their big rival Lakeland by kicking a 54 yard field goal as time expired and no it wasn't my son kicking as he is just a freshman but that kid who did it beat the school record by 3 yards and let me tell you he destroyed that ball by 10 yards and for NCAA D3 that's one hell of a kick and you can deposit that Cheese into the Bank of Concordia bronacho.....

 

[Moe.]

Computers should decide. Determine a formula. Add something to the formula about playing good at year end and losing in the conference championship game not being a big penalty. Get the humans out of it.

What they really need to do is have the 2divisions in the big conferences again., then have your championship be the division winners.

The problem there was the inequity of the divisions. Not just the Big10 but the SEC West seemed to rule the roost before Georgia hired Kirby. In theory, this is how it should play out, but there has to be a way to balance out the competitiveness that was a major problem in the Big10.....

With the conference added teams, it was the perfect time to realign the conferences.

I think it’s coming. My understanding is that this year and next year (next year’s SEC schedule is the exact same as this year they just flip locations) were thrown together and they’ll figure it out for real in 2026. I’m hoping for 4 pods of 4 teams - there are some really creative proposals out there. I would assume something similar will happen with the other giant conferences, just takes a little bit of time

 

[pollardsvision]

I absolutely hated the Mack Brown re-hiring at the time.
Not because of him, he's a good football coach, but what it said about the program that we don't want to admit (any coach we get will either fail or get poached).

Among my UNC buddies, I'm considered a Mack hater.
But the timing of the is firing really pisses me off.

Maybe Mack gave them the Stringer Bell "do it or don't, motherfu---", but barring that, this is no way to treat him.

He had to be gone. Yeah, it was over. But you give him the dignity of finishing out the season. Give him the State game. Whatever about a bull **** bowl game.

He had more victories than Frank Beamer. Yeah, a lot of them weren't with us. I'll always be pissed about that. I didn't want him back. But he came back and gave us Sammy, Javonte, Drake, Dyami, Carter, Omarrion, etc. Probably some of the best memories we'll see in our UNC fan lifetime.

You fire that man with the same dignity you would somebody like Beamer.

Unless Bubba Cunningham has a real ace up his sleeve. I'm old enough to know that Bubba Cunningham does not have that ace up his sleeve.

Maybe, just maybe, in a dream world, he hires somebody with as a good a resume as Larry Fedora. Of course, we know how that ends.

Anyway, this is my ode to Mack. Heels did him dirty and I'm not okay with that.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I absolutely hated the Mack Brown re-hiring at the time.
Not because of him, he's a good football coach, but what it said about the program that we don't want to admit (any coach we get will either fail or get poached).

Among my UNC buddies, I'm considered a Mack hater.
But the timing of the is firing really pisses me off.

Maybe Mack gave them the Stringer Bell "do it or don't, motherfu---", but barring that, this is no way to treat him.

He had to be gone. Yeah, it was over. But you give him the dignity of finishing out the season. Give him the State game. Whatever about a bull **** bowl game.

He had more victories than Frank Beamer. Yeah, a lot of them weren't with us. I'll always be pissed about that. I didn't want him back. But he came back and gave us Sammy, Javonte, Drake, Dyami, Carter, Omarrion, etc. Probably some of the best memories we'll see in our UNC fan lifetime.

You fire that man with the same dignity you would somebody like Beamer.

Unless Bubba Cunningham has a real ace up his sleeve. I'm old enough to know that Bubba Cunningham does not have that ace up his sleeve.

Maybe, just maybe, in a dream world, he hires somebody with as a good a resume as Larry Fedora. Of course, we know how that ends.

Anyway, this is my ode to Mack. Heels did him dirty and I'm not okay with that.

They are letting him coach Saturday. You have to stay ahead of recruiting with signing day in mid-December so this is them letting the candidates know they are open for business and want to get ahead of others.

 

[whoknew]

wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans

Wisconsin is rightly being punished by the football gods for abandoning their identity and running some kind of passing spread offense.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Rankings are

1. Oregon
2. Ohio St
3. Texas
4. Penn St
5. ND
6. Miami
7. Georgia
8. Tennessee
9. SMU
10. Indiana
11. Boise
16. Arizona St

Next Out:
12. Clemson
13. Alabama
14. Ole Miss
15. South Carolina