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2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (2 Viewers)

The real problem with this playoff is the Big Ten championship game loser has a way easier playoff than the Champ. The loser would go Arizona St and Boise in some order and the winner would get a bye but then be playing someone like UGA or Tennessee. The quarterfinals should be reseeded after the first round.
 
The real problem with this playoff is the Big Ten championship game loser has a way easier playoff than the Champ. The loser would go Arizona St and Boise in some order and the winner would get a bye but then be playing someone like UGA or Tennessee. The quarterfinals should be reseeded after the first round.
Been saying this for a couple months. Since so many folks think Ohio State is so much better than Oregon, I’m done with taking 2nd in the conference ;)


And it’s amazing to me how ‘ho hum’ Oregon being No. 1 for 6 weeks has been. Literal no conversations about it. Don’t get me wrong I get the drama 5-12, but it crazy to me just how lack of hype it’s been. I trust Lanning to find a way to turn that into motivation for the Ducks.
 
I absolutely hated the Mack Brown re-hiring at the time.
Not because of him, he's a good football coach, but what it said about the program that we don't want to admit (any coach we get will either fail or get poached).

Among my UNC buddies, I'm considered a Mack hater.
But the timing of the is firing really pisses me off.

Maybe Mack gave them the Stringer Bell "do it or don't, motherfu---", but barring that, this is no way to treat him.

He had to be gone. Yeah, it was over. But you give him the dignity of finishing out the season. Give him the State game. Whatever about a bull **** bowl game.

He had more victories than Frank Beamer. Yeah, a lot of them weren't with us. I'll always be pissed about that. I didn't want him back. But he came back and gave us Sammy, Javonte, Drake, Dyami, Carter, Omarrion, etc. Probably some of the best memories we'll see in our UNC fan lifetime.

You fire that man with the same dignity you would somebody like Beamer.

Unless Bubba Cunningham has a real ace up his sleeve. I'm old enough to know that Bubba Cunningham does not have that ace up his sleeve.

Maybe, just maybe, in a dream world, he hires somebody with as a good a resume as Larry Fedora. Of course, we know how that ends.

Anyway, this is my ode to Mack. Heels did him dirty and I'm not okay with that.
They are letting him coach Saturday. You have to stay ahead of recruiting with signing day in mid-December so this is them letting the candidates know they are open for business and want to get ahead of others.

I just don't think the older coaches have the stamina to hang with current recruiting processes and what's needed to stay current. There is no off-season for college coaches anymore. There's no taking January off.

Coaching college football is a young man's game now. Hats off to Mack for making things hum for as long as he did but the next coach of UNC will likely have a birthday after 1985.
 
The real problem with this playoff is the Big Ten championship game loser has a way easier playoff than the Champ. The loser would go Arizona St and Boise in some order and the winner would get a bye but then be playing someone like UGA or Tennessee. The quarterfinals should be reseeded after the first round.
Been saying this for a couple months. Since so many folks think Ohio State is so much better than Oregon, I’m done with taking 2nd in the conference ;)


And it’s amazing to me how ‘ho hum’ Oregon being No. 1 for 6 weeks has been. Literal no conversations about it. Don’t get me wrong I get the drama 5-12, but it crazy to me just how lack of hype it’s been. I trust Lanning to find a way to turn that into motivation for the Ducks.
Yep. Another thing is in years like this where the two best teams are in the same conference and they end up #1 and #5, they will meet again in the Semi's in stead of the Natty. That doesn't feel right either.
 
The real problem with this playoff is the Big Ten championship game loser has a way easier playoff than the Champ. The loser would go Arizona St and Boise in some order and the winner would get a bye but then be playing someone like UGA or Tennessee. The quarterfinals should be reseeded after the first round.
Been saying this for a couple months. Since so many folks think Ohio State is so much better than Oregon, I’m done with taking 2nd in the conference ;)


And it’s amazing to me how ‘ho hum’ Oregon being No. 1 for 6 weeks has been. Literal no conversations about it. Don’t get me wrong I get the drama 5-12, but it crazy to me just how lack of hype it’s been. I trust Lanning to find a way to turn that into motivation for the Ducks.

Oregon has been anything but assertive. That game against Wisconsin was telling. And they should have lost to Boise State.

Happy it is where it is but this isn't 2019 LSU.
 
The real problem with this playoff is the Big Ten championship game loser has a way easier playoff than the Champ. The loser would go Arizona St and Boise in some order and the winner would get a bye but then be playing someone like UGA or Tennessee. The quarterfinals should be reseeded after the first round.
Been saying this for a couple months. Since so many folks think Ohio State is so much better than Oregon, I’m done with taking 2nd in the conference ;)


And it’s amazing to me how ‘ho hum’ Oregon being No. 1 for 6 weeks has been. Literal no conversations about it. Don’t get me wrong I get the drama 5-12, but it crazy to me just how lack of hype it’s been. I trust Lanning to find a way to turn that into motivation for the Ducks.

Oregon has been anything but assertive. That game against Wisconsin was telling. And they should have lost to Boise State.

Happy it is where it is but this isn't 2019 LSU.
The last couple of weeks, top teams on the road just have to win. Easier said than done.
 
And it’s amazing to me how ‘ho hum’ Oregon being No. 1 for 6 weeks has been. Literal no conversations about it. Don’t get me wrong I get the drama 5-12, but it crazy to me just how lack of hype it’s been. I trust Lanning to find a way to turn that into motivation for the Ducks.

It's different than in year's past though. Impressive but that #1 ranking doesn't mean nearly as much as it used to with a 12 team playoff lurking around the corner and some big tests coming up for Oregon. Also the team doesn't give me a lot of confidence. I think they'd probably have 2 or 3 losses in the SEC.
 
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The real problem with this playoff is the Big Ten championship game loser has a way easier playoff than the Champ. The loser would go Arizona St and Boise in some order and the winner would get a bye but then be playing someone like UGA or Tennessee. The quarterfinals should be reseeded after the first round.
Been saying this for a couple months. Since so many folks think Ohio State is so much better than Oregon, I’m done with taking 2nd in the conference ;)


And it’s amazing to me how ‘ho hum’ Oregon being No. 1 for 6 weeks has been. Literal no conversations about it. Don’t get me wrong I get the drama 5-12, but it crazy to me just how lack of hype it’s been. I trust Lanning to find a way to turn that into motivation for the Ducks.
I'm not sure what one is expecting with Oregon honestly. They went to the fourth quarter with three point leads against the likes of Idaho and Boise. They are an OSU brain fart away from a loss to OSU at home and then had to figure out how to squeak by Wisconsin. It'd likely be slightly different if they were in control from start to finish, but they've been in "survive and advance" mode this year. Now it's 12 teams, so the focus isn't on the top anymore.
 
The real problem with this playoff is the Big Ten championship game loser has a way easier playoff than the Champ. The loser would go Arizona St and Boise in some order and the winner would get a bye but then be playing someone like UGA or Tennessee. The quarterfinals should be reseeded after the first round.
Been saying this for a couple months. Since so many folks think Ohio State is so much better than Oregon, I’m done with taking 2nd in the conference ;)


And it’s amazing to me how ‘ho hum’ Oregon being No. 1 for 6 weeks has been. Literal no conversations about it. Don’t get me wrong I get the drama 5-12, but it crazy to me just how lack of hype it’s been. I trust Lanning to find a way to turn that into motivation for the Ducks.

Who cares? They are #1. Even if they lose to Ohio State, they are making the playoff. Win the National Championship and people will talk a lot about them.
 
Is it not weird that we can mostly all agree that, say, the Bengals are clearly one of the 14 best NFL teams in spite of record, but we aren't going to put them into the playoffs, but for some reason we're fine with just deciding the third or fourth best team in a conference "is good" and only taking one Big 12 team and stuff like that?

This almost certainly needs to end with the big league, divisions winners, your record is your record proposal. Even better when there's a salary cap.
 
wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans

Wisconsin is rightly being punished by the football gods for abandoning their identity and running some kind of passing spread offense.

If you guys want to send Fickell back to UC you won't hear any complaints here.
 
The SEC late-season money game for the small schools is fine with me.....as long as they stop complaining Notre Dame doesn't have to play a conference championship game. It's never been about who ND does or doesn't play, it's always been that an SEC school might have to play one more game than ND. You cannot convince me games against Mercer, Wofford, Nicholls State, South Alabama, or Samford should be treated the same as other FBS games.

People give ND grief for playing the academies but both Army and Navy would demolish those schools most years and especially so this year. Yes, yes, I know....Northern Illinois. I'm not excusing that loss and the crap that our scheduled turned into this year, but we don't routinely schedule bye weeks into non-bye weeks.
 
Josh Pate was on our local radio this morning and had a mind blowing stat.....

6 FBS teams have led in every 4th quarter this season. USC is one of them...USC has 5 losses.
The other five teams have 5 losses combined.
 
The SEC late-season money game for the small schools is fine with me.....as long as they stop complaining Notre Dame doesn't have to play a conference championship game. It's never been about who ND does or doesn't play, it's always been that an SEC school might have to play one more game than ND. You cannot convince me games against Mercer, Wofford, Nicholls State, South Alabama, or Samford should be treated the same as other FBS games.

People give ND grief for playing the academies but both Army and Navy would demolish those schools most years and especially so this year. Yes, yes, I know....Northern Illinois. I'm not excusing that loss and the crap that our scheduled turned into this year, but we don't routinely schedule bye weeks into non-bye weeks.
And the SEC only can blame themselves. They were greedy and wanted to get better bowls, forcing the other conferences to follow.
 
The SEC late-season money game for the small schools is fine with me.....as long as they stop complaining Notre Dame doesn't have to play a conference championship game. It's never been about who ND does or doesn't play, it's always been that an SEC school might have to play one more game than ND. You cannot convince me games against Mercer, Wofford, Nicholls State, South Alabama, or Samford should be treated the same as other FBS games.

People give ND grief for playing the academies but both Army and Navy would demolish those schools most years and especially so this year. Yes, yes, I know....Northern Illinois. I'm not excusing that loss and the crap that our scheduled turned into this year, but we don't routinely schedule bye weeks into non-bye weeks.
And the SEC only can blame themselves. They were greedy and wanted to get better bowls, forcing the other conferences to follow.
It's not happening but it would be so much fun if GT beat UGA and Clemson beat SC and the ACC got 3 teams and the SEC 2 teams. The rules for the playoff would change immediately if that happens.
 
In terms of changes to the rules for the playoffs, what would everyone like to see moving forward? I like that 5 conference champs get in, but I think guaranteeing 4 of them a top 4 seed was a mistake. That’s creating this weird thing where lower seeds are actually more desirable. I’d like for them to just seed the 12 teams that make it with no regard for conference championships.
 
wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans

Wisconsin is rightly being punished by the football gods for abandoning their identity and running some kind of passing spread offense.

If you guys want to send Fickell back to UC you won't hear any complaints here.
oh i like fick i just think the air raid was never going to work with our personnel they look the best when they establish the running game but then when that was going they would say hey lets get cute and bam interception or missed receiver and it was just brutal so we will keep fick but you can have the air raid take that to the bank bromigo
 
wisconsin is so bad at football that i hope they stay at 5 wins and dont even get a bowl i guess i am rooting for oregon out of respect for my good buddy forest thats just how it is this year take that to the bank brohans
listen here @SWC er jump on the bandwagon and root for my sons team 'ol Concordia University in Mequon who won the Cheese Bowl again this year against their big rival Lakeland by kicking a 54 yard field goal as time expired and no it wasn't my son kicking as he is just a freshman but that kid who did it beat the school record by 3 yards and let me tell you he destroyed that ball by 10 yards and for NCAA D3 that's one hell of a kick and you can deposit that Cheese into the Bank of Concordia bronacho.....
they play on the tomasini field i believe and he is a guy that the old swcer knew that campus being on the lake is gorgeous and that is also where the chinooks play minor league ball and they have a great baseball stadium as well take that to the bank brochacho
 
In terms of changes to the rules for the playoffs, what would everyone like to see moving forward? I like that 5 conference champs get in, but I think guaranteeing 4 of them a top 4 seed was a mistake. That’s creating this weird thing where lower seeds are actually more desirable. I’d like for them to just seed the 12 teams that make it with no regard for conference championships.
Naturally we ND fans would like that if we have a good year.

But counterpoint is the conference championship is greatly diminished if so. Of you do that, a champ could still get seeded 12th. I’m ok with them getting at least a guaranteed home game or something.
 
In terms of changes to the rules for the playoffs, what would everyone like to see moving forward? I like that 5 conference champs get in, but I think guaranteeing 4 of them a top 4 seed was a mistake. That’s creating this weird thing where lower seeds are actually more desirable. I’d like for them to just seed the 12 teams that make it with no regard for conference championships.
Naturally we ND fans would like that if we have a good year.

But counterpoint is the conference championship is greatly diminished if so. Of you do that, a champ could still get seeded 12th. I’m ok with them getting at least a guaranteed home game or something.
The Big 12 Champ is likely gonna be the 12 seed this year
 
Josh Pate was on our local radio this morning and had a mind blowing stat.....

6 FBS teams have led in every 4th quarter this season. USC is one of them...USC has 5 losses.
The other five teams have 5 losses combined.

Lincoln Riley has forgotten how to close out games.
I’m not sure he ever knew. I promise I’m not one of those OU fans who is bitter about Riley, I still like him and have been rooting for USC because of him. I also like Kevin Durant a ton, no grudges over sports for me. Riley is good at beating the breaks off people. He was always not so great at in-game adjustments, changing up his pace to fit the game situation, etc. He wins games because he is great at prepping during the week, not because of what he does on gameday
 
Josh Pate was on our local radio this morning and had a mind blowing stat.....

6 FBS teams have led in every 4th quarter this season. USC is one of them...USC has 5 losses.
The other five teams have 5 losses combined.

Lincoln Riley has forgotten how to close out games.
I’m not sure he ever knew. I promise I’m not one of those OU fans who is bitter about Riley, I still like him and have been rooting for USC because of him. I also like Kevin Durant a ton, no grudges over sports for me. Riley is good at beating the breaks off people. He was always not so great at in-game adjustments, changing up his pace to fit the game situation, etc. He wins games because he is great at prepping during the week, not because of what he does on gameday

This all makes a lot of sense. His clock and game management is lackluster at best and horrible at worst. He needs to hire an OC so he can focus on managing the game.
 
Josh Pate was on our local radio this morning and had a mind blowing stat.....

6 FBS teams have led in every 4th quarter this season. USC is one of them...USC has 5 losses.
The other five teams have 5 losses combined.

Lincoln Riley has forgotten how to close out games.
I’m not sure he ever knew. I promise I’m not one of those OU fans who is bitter about Riley, I still like him and have been rooting for USC because of him. I also like Kevin Durant a ton, no grudges over sports for me. Riley is good at beating the breaks off people. He was always not so great at in-game adjustments, changing up his pace to fit the game situation, etc. He wins games because he is great at prepping during the week, not because of what he does on gameday
Lol beat me to it

There were two great complaints once he became head coach:
1. Horrible game management
2. His playcalling was worse than when he was OC
 
Josh Pate was on our local radio this morning and had a mind blowing stat.....

6 FBS teams have led in every 4th quarter this season. USC is one of them...USC has 5 losses.
The other five teams have 5 losses combined.

Lincoln Riley has forgotten how to close out games.
I’m not sure he ever knew. I promise I’m not one of those OU fans who is bitter about Riley, I still like him and have been rooting for USC because of him. I also like Kevin Durant a ton, no grudges over sports for me. Riley is good at beating the breaks off people. He was always not so great at in-game adjustments, changing up his pace to fit the game situation, etc. He wins games because he is great at prepping during the week, not because of what he does on gameday

This all makes a lot of sense. His clock and game management is lackluster at best and horrible at worst. He needs to hire an OC so he can focus on managing the game.

Seems like his defense is much improved; couldn't have gotten any worse than the Alex Grinch disaster. I know things haven't been all peaches and scones for USC this year, but you lose a Heisman QB, bring in some new pieces, have to deal with a new travel way of life....and despite it all, USC was leading in the 4th quarter of every game they played in this season. Silver linings and all.
 
Things to improve the playoff:

- Expand to 14 teams.
- Top 2 get byes
- Top 4 conf. Champs (not on byes) & other top 2 get home game.
- Second rd, bye teams get a home game, all others the major bowl sites (or first two rounds at higher seed home, then just semis and final at big bowl sites)
- Reseed each round

This keeps regular season important, Conf. Champ. Important and doesn’t screw the higher ranked seeds. If anything, reinforces the regular season as only 2 get a bye and home games in the playoff.

What am I missing here?
 
Josh Pate was on our local radio this morning and had a mind blowing stat.....

6 FBS teams have led in every 4th quarter this season. USC is one of them...USC has 5 losses.
The other five teams have 5 losses combined.

Lincoln Riley has forgotten how to close out games.
I’m not sure he ever knew. I promise I’m not one of those OU fans who is bitter about Riley, I still like him and have been rooting for USC because of him. I also like Kevin Durant a ton, no grudges over sports for me. Riley is good at beating the breaks off people. He was always not so great at in-game adjustments, changing up his pace to fit the game situation, etc. He wins games because he is great at prepping during the week, not because of what he does on gameday

This all makes a lot of sense. His clock and game management is lackluster at best and horrible at worst. He needs to hire an OC so he can focus on managing the game.

Seems like his defense is much improved; couldn't have gotten any worse than the Alex Grinch disaster. I know things haven't been all peaches and scones for USC this year, but you lose a Heisman QB, bring in some new pieces, have to deal with a new travel way of life....and despite it all, USC was leading in the 4th quarter of every game they played in this season. Silver linings and all.
I think they have a legit shot this weekend.
 
Here’s my dream setup for college football that would also make things better for the rest of college sports. It’ll never happen because of money, power, and old conferences that no longer exist, but Yo Mama can dream.

- Regional 10-team conferences (like the original PAC-10, Big-10, etc.). I could get creative with the other conferences to get them all to 10. Put me in charge, I’ll get everything sorted out.

- Everyone plays 9 conference games. You play everyone to determine a true conference champion, so no conference championship games are needed. You can make up some of the lost $ with the expanded playoffs noted below.

- 16-team playoff. Top 5 or 6 ranked conference champions automatically qualify. Those rankings and the remaining at-large teams determined by a selection committee. All seeds determined by committee (no guaranteed seeds for conference champions). Similar to March madness process but fewer automatic bids.

- First round at lower seed home stadiums. Remaining games at traditional bowl locations. Semi-finals on New Year’s Day.

Wa La - everybody is happy and makes a gazillion dollars and you don’t have mid-week Oregon-Rutgers conference softball games.
 
Things to improve the playoff:

- Expand to 14 teams.
- Top 2 get byes
- Top 4 conf. Champs (not on byes) & other top 2 get home game.
- Second rd, bye teams get a home game, all others the major bowl sites (or first two rounds at higher seed home, then just semis and final at big bowl sites)
- Reseed each round

This keeps regular season important, Conf. Champ. Important and doesn’t screw the higher ranked seeds. If anything, reinforces the regular season as only 2 get a bye and home games in the playoff.

What am I missing here?
Why do we need 14 teams. We don’t even need 12.
 
Josh Pate was on our local radio this morning and had a mind blowing stat.....

6 FBS teams have led in every 4th quarter this season. USC is one of them...USC has 5 losses.
The other five teams have 5 losses combined.

Lincoln Riley has forgotten how to close out games.
I’m not sure he ever knew. I promise I’m not one of those OU fans who is bitter about Riley, I still like him and have been rooting for USC because of him. I also like Kevin Durant a ton, no grudges over sports for me. Riley is good at beating the breaks off people. He was always not so great at in-game adjustments, changing up his pace to fit the game situation, etc. He wins games because he is great at prepping during the week, not because of what he does on gameday

This all makes a lot of sense. His clock and game management is lackluster at best and horrible at worst. He needs to hire an OC so he can focus on managing the game.

Seems like his defense is much improved; couldn't have gotten any worse than the Alex Grinch disaster. I know things haven't been all peaches and scones for USC this year, but you lose a Heisman QB, bring in some new pieces, have to deal with a new travel way of life....and despite it all, USC was leading in the 4th quarter of every game they played in this season. Silver linings and all.

USC has made HUGE strides on defense, and it’s all due to the incredible hires that Riley made - Lynn, Henderson, Entz, Belk all amazing hires. Even with the injuries and defections on the defensive side of the ball, they went from allowing over 34 points per game last year to 21 points per game this season. Unfortunately, his offense has taken a massive step back. That and his play calling/game management shortcomings have cratered their season.
 
Things to improve the playoff:

- Expand to 14 teams.
- Top 2 get byes
- Top 4 conf. Champs (not on byes) & other top 2 get home game.
- Second rd, bye teams get a home game, all others the major bowl sites (or first two rounds at higher seed home, then just semis and final at big bowl sites)
- Reseed each round

This keeps regular season important, Conf. Champ. Important and doesn’t screw the higher ranked seeds. If anything, reinforces the regular season as only 2 get a bye and home games in the playoff.

What am I missing here?
Why do we need 14 teams. We don’t even need 12.
4 was fine if they could have reworked the CCG week given the fact that nobody gives a **** about the winner.
 

He's not wrong and college in a nutshell is sort of ****ed because.

1) If you play a game, someone has to lose
2) Playing more games means more losses
3) Teams with fewer losses are more likely to get in the playoffs than one with more losses

If the SEC keeps playing 8 and the XII plays 9, the only way they can realistically keep up is to schedule OOC vs. the SEC schools, but that is rare because the SEC has cupcakes on the menu.
 
Wisconsin's streak of 22 straight bowl games has come to an end today. It was the third longest current streak in the nation behind Georgia at 27 and Oklahoma at 25. The Badgers had won 8 of the last 10 bowls. Luke Fickell will be on the hot seat heading into his third season next year with a brutal Big Ten schedule.
 

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