rockaction
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They are. Their defense hasn't looked like its usual self, but that might be due to Detroit and Buffalo on their schedule. Tall orders.
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2025 Detroit Lions: 3-1 Lions roll over Browns (51 Viewers)
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They are. Their defense hasn't looked like its usual self, but that might be due to Detroit and Buffalo on their schedule. Tall orders.
Great offenses in today's league are nearly impossible to stop. I doubt we ever see a 1984 Bears like performance on defense.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Yeah, you could make an easy case for BAL-BUF-DET for being the three most lethal offenses rn.
So 2 out of 3 they faced explosive offensive machines, and the way they structure the rules these days, you’re always gonna wind up in a few shootouts every year. Insane pace of play.
Detroit had a phenomenal defensive game plane. PFF had them down for 34 pressures?? On 37 drop backs. 7 sacks & 25 hurries, couple 3 n outs, 4th down stop, two FF, 6 TFLs…and they still gave up 30.
Baltimore was missing a few defensive starters but no excuses. That’s the league, injuries are always part of the deal when you construct the roster.
Wish we had Davenport, Hassanein, Onwuzurike, Paschal, and Rakestraw but it is what it is. At least we’re getting McNeil, Paschal & Rodrigo back for the second half.
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Major
Footballguy
Baltimore is a very good team.
You guys were awesome out there and look fully on board to avenge that playoff fluke against Washington. I remember after the 2023 season when my Texans were mentioned in the same breath as the Lions - franchises on the up and dark horse Super Bowl contenders. How quickly times have changed
The Washington game was not a fluke. Detroit fielded players on defense who had no business being on the field due to the worst plague of injuries on defense ever. A good QB looks all-world against a pitiful defense. That was not a shocking loss.
Washington was a 10 point underdog. I guess we can agree to disagree but that's a big upset in my book.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
PFF Week 3 Grades:
Baltimore had 11 pressures, 0 sacks. Pressures allowed: Decker 3, Mahogany 2, GG, Tate, Penei, ARSB, Monty, Wright 1 each.
- 98.7 Sewell (99.3 RBLK)
- 91.4 Ratledge (90.2 RBLK)
- 89.5 Montgomery (locker room game ball)
- 86.9 ARSB
- 82.9 Decker
- 81.6 LaPorta
- 71.0 Goff
- 70.4 Gibbs
- 64.0 Mahogany
- 63.8 Glasgow
- 63.2 Williams
- 91.8 Hutchinson
- 90.3 Cunningham (2 snaps but they were both GL stops of Henry)
- 83.0 Reed (led team 78.9 coverage)
- 80.1 Campbell
- 78.2 Nowaske
- 74.5 Muhammad (locker room game ball)
- 63.2 Joseph
- 62.6 Anzalone
Baltimore had 11 pressures, 0 sacks. Pressures allowed: Decker 3, Mahogany 2, GG, Tate, Penei, ARSB, Monty, Wright 1 each.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
After 3 weeks, the Lions OL ranks 3rd in PBLK and 3rd in RBLK.
No doubt this is absolutely the dumbest way to rank offensive lines but here goes nuttin’…
Composite score - PFF Team Blocking Ranks:
No doubt this is absolutely the dumbest way to rank offensive lines but here goes nuttin’…
Composite score - PFF Team Blocking Ranks:
- Lions 6
- Bills 8
- Colts 10
- Jags 10
- 49ers 15
- Vikings 16
- Falcons 17
- Broncos 19
- Bears 24
- Jets 28
- Ravens 28
- Cardinals 32
- Eagles 32
- Panthers 32
- Seahawks 32
- Raiders 34
- Rams 34
- Cowboys 36
- Chargers 37
- Texans 37
- Chiefs 38
- Giants 38
- Steelers 38
- Patriots 39
- Buccaneers 43
- Commanders 44
- Titans 50
- Saints 55
- Browns 56
- Dolphins 56
- Packers 57
- Bengals 58
Hank Fraley is doing an incredible job with this line. Retaining him was the most important move they made on their coaching staff. I would have given him a game ball.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
DC when he was the interim HC for Miami. They hired Adam Gase over DC the next season. Thank you
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Dan Campbell Tuesday afternoon presser
starts with 3 minutes of ticking off like 30 guys & how they contributed - right down to final onside,
“LaPorta caught it, but only because Rock Ya Sun, Jacob Sayers & Terrion Arnold had good blocks in that play…which nobody will ever notice.”
everybody loves that old clip of Dolphins TE Coach screaming “BLOCK FOR HIM. Please.” but misses the comeback later in the game where the same does make a block & MCDC is hyping him up.
love how in his media appearances Coach Campbell actually listens & gives thoughtful answers, is never dismissive - doesn’t matter if it’s Carlos M or whomever, always treats those guys with patience & respect
refreshing
remember 15 days ago when everyone was convinced regression was inevitable & it was gonna be pretty rough with two new coordinators + young IOL?
that was a thing
I’m thinking that culture stuff is stickier than we admit
starts with 3 minutes of ticking off like 30 guys & how they contributed - right down to final onside,
“LaPorta caught it, but only because Rock Ya Sun, Jacob Sayers & Terrion Arnold had good blocks in that play…which nobody will ever notice.”
everybody loves that old clip of Dolphins TE Coach screaming “BLOCK FOR HIM. Please.” but misses the comeback later in the game where the same does make a block & MCDC is hyping him up.
love how in his media appearances Coach Campbell actually listens & gives thoughtful answers, is never dismissive - doesn’t matter if it’s Carlos M or whomever, always treats those guys with patience & respect
refreshing
remember 15 days ago when everyone was convinced regression was inevitable & it was gonna be pretty rough with two new coordinators + young IOL?
that was a thing
I’m thinking that culture stuff is stickier than we admit
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Opening odds for this game have been very reactive to the results as they happened. Last week the spread was Browns +10.5, but quickly dropped to +8.5 after the Packers/Browns game. Then after the Ravens/Lions game it bumped back up to +9.5. Seems like a dangerous game considering Cleveland's solid defense and a possible MNF hangover for Detroit. As usual I'll take any sort of win and let others demand style points.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Browns still spinning wheels at QB, but bringing formidable defense to Detroit in first meeting since brutal 2021 matchup
Allen Park — Despite being the closest city with an NFL team to Detroit, the Lions don’t see a lot of the Cleveland Browns due to the Lake Erie neighbors playing in the AFC.
That statement merits clarity. The foes have been pitted against each other plenty in the preseason, even briefly having a guady, college-rivalry style trophy attached to the “Great Lakes Classic.” But in a game that actually meant something, the Lions last squared off with the Browns in 2021.
That was coach Dan Campbell’s first season, quarterback Jared Goff was out with an oblique injury, and the fanbase could have justifiably landed on the injured list after being compelled to wash their eyes with bleach after watching backup Tim Boyle complete 15-of-23 for 77 yards, zero touchdowns and two interceptions in a 13-10 loss that dropped the team to 0-9-1 on the season.
Before righting the ship under Campbell, the Lions had played a lot of bad football, and through it all, that game was among the toughest to consume.
That matchup aside, those Browns were playing some decent ball. Under the then-reigning coach of the year, Kevin Stefanski, they had advanced to the divisional round of the playoffs the previous season. And with the ugly victory over the hapless Lions, they moved to 7-5
Unfortunately, it’s mostly been downhill from there for the Browns. They lost four of the next five and missed a return to the postseason in 2021. The following offseason, they made the bold, and in hindsight, stupid decision to trade for quarterback Deshaun Watson, who was inactive the entirety of the previous campaign as he faced a slew of sexual misconduct allegations.
The price to add Watson was exorbitant. The Browns sent three first-round picks to the Houston Texans, then awarded the quarterback an unprecedented, fully guaranteed five-year, $230 million deal.
The return on that investment for the Browns? An 11-game suspension to begin Watson’s tenure with the franchise, a 9-10 record in games he’s started, and a less-than-stellar 80.7 passer rating in those contests.
Currently, Watson is out with an Achilles injury, which required a second surgery in January after he re-ruptured it while rehabbing, casting doubt on whether he’ll ever play for the Browns again.
Meanwhile, the man they traded away to make room for Watson, former No. 1 pick Baker Mayfield, has enjoyed a career resurgence in Tampa Bay, where he’s earned Pro Bowl honors while leading the Buccaneers to the playoffs each of the past two seasons.
Since the Browns last played the Lions, they’ve started 11 different quarterbacks. They’re currently running with 40-year-old Joe Flacco, who experienced his own career resurgence filling in for an injured Watson in 2023, helping lead Cleveland to a playoff berth that season. However, he’s unquestionably little more than a placeholder for whoever is next, with rookies Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders waiting in the wings.
Among the 22 starters from that 2021 matchup with Detroit, only seven remain on the roster. That group consists of two guards, Wyatt Teller and Joel Bitonio, tight end David Njoku, and four defensive players, All-Pro edge rusher Myles Garrett and a trio of defensive backs, Denzel Ward, Greg Newsom II and Grant Delpit.
You’ll hardly recognize the roster that comes to Ford Field on Sunday. As noted, Flacco will be taking the snaps. His arsenal is comprised of rookie Quinshon Judkins as the lead back and Jerry Jeudy, Cedric Tillman, Isaiah Bond and Jamari Thrash at receiver. That’s a ton of speed among the pass-catchers.
Additionally, the team has partnered Njoku with versatile rookie tight end Harold Fannin Jr., granting him more than 40 snaps each of the first three games.
Defensively, the returning group in the secondary is rounded out by 2023 undrafted rookie Ronnie Hickman. The linebacker corps has been reworked with rookie Carson Schwesinger leading the way. He’s paired with former University of Michigan standout Devin Bush Jr., who joined the Browns last season.
Up front, Garrett is complemented on the opposite edge by 2023 fourth-round pick Isaiah McGuire, who replaces Za’Darius Smith after he was traded to the Lions at the deadline last year. McGuire is off to a strong start to his third season, tallying 11 pressures and a sack through three games.
On the inside, it’s another former Wolverine. Cleveland used its first-round pick this offseason, No. 5 overall, on Mason Graham. He had a big impact in last Sunday’s win over Green Bay, registering four QB pressures. He works alongside Maliek Collins, a free-agent addition who is a credible interior pass rusher, recording 5.0 sacks each of the past two seasons and already registering 1.5 this year.
The defense, led by former Lions coach Jim Schwartz since 2023, is formidable. Factoring out points scored by opponents on turnovers and special teams, the unit is allowing just 20.3 per through three games. They held the Packers to just 230 yards and 10 points in Sunday’s upset.
“This defense is outstanding for Cleveland, man,” Campbell said on Tuesday. “We’re going to have our hands full here. Short week, but we’ll be ready to go.”
That statement merits clarity. The foes have been pitted against each other plenty in the preseason, even briefly having a guady, college-rivalry style trophy attached to the “Great Lakes Classic.” But in a game that actually meant something, the Lions last squared off with the Browns in 2021.
That was coach Dan Campbell’s first season, quarterback Jared Goff was out with an oblique injury, and the fanbase could have justifiably landed on the injured list after being compelled to wash their eyes with bleach after watching backup Tim Boyle complete 15-of-23 for 77 yards, zero touchdowns and two interceptions in a 13-10 loss that dropped the team to 0-9-1 on the season.
Before righting the ship under Campbell, the Lions had played a lot of bad football, and through it all, that game was among the toughest to consume.
That matchup aside, those Browns were playing some decent ball. Under the then-reigning coach of the year, Kevin Stefanski, they had advanced to the divisional round of the playoffs the previous season. And with the ugly victory over the hapless Lions, they moved to 7-5
Unfortunately, it’s mostly been downhill from there for the Browns. They lost four of the next five and missed a return to the postseason in 2021. The following offseason, they made the bold, and in hindsight, stupid decision to trade for quarterback Deshaun Watson, who was inactive the entirety of the previous campaign as he faced a slew of sexual misconduct allegations.
The price to add Watson was exorbitant. The Browns sent three first-round picks to the Houston Texans, then awarded the quarterback an unprecedented, fully guaranteed five-year, $230 million deal.
The return on that investment for the Browns? An 11-game suspension to begin Watson’s tenure with the franchise, a 9-10 record in games he’s started, and a less-than-stellar 80.7 passer rating in those contests.
Currently, Watson is out with an Achilles injury, which required a second surgery in January after he re-ruptured it while rehabbing, casting doubt on whether he’ll ever play for the Browns again.
Meanwhile, the man they traded away to make room for Watson, former No. 1 pick Baker Mayfield, has enjoyed a career resurgence in Tampa Bay, where he’s earned Pro Bowl honors while leading the Buccaneers to the playoffs each of the past two seasons.
Since the Browns last played the Lions, they’ve started 11 different quarterbacks. They’re currently running with 40-year-old Joe Flacco, who experienced his own career resurgence filling in for an injured Watson in 2023, helping lead Cleveland to a playoff berth that season. However, he’s unquestionably little more than a placeholder for whoever is next, with rookies Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders waiting in the wings.
Among the 22 starters from that 2021 matchup with Detroit, only seven remain on the roster. That group consists of two guards, Wyatt Teller and Joel Bitonio, tight end David Njoku, and four defensive players, All-Pro edge rusher Myles Garrett and a trio of defensive backs, Denzel Ward, Greg Newsom II and Grant Delpit.
You’ll hardly recognize the roster that comes to Ford Field on Sunday. As noted, Flacco will be taking the snaps. His arsenal is comprised of rookie Quinshon Judkins as the lead back and Jerry Jeudy, Cedric Tillman, Isaiah Bond and Jamari Thrash at receiver. That’s a ton of speed among the pass-catchers.
Additionally, the team has partnered Njoku with versatile rookie tight end Harold Fannin Jr., granting him more than 40 snaps each of the first three games.
Defensively, the returning group in the secondary is rounded out by 2023 undrafted rookie Ronnie Hickman. The linebacker corps has been reworked with rookie Carson Schwesinger leading the way. He’s paired with former University of Michigan standout Devin Bush Jr., who joined the Browns last season.
Up front, Garrett is complemented on the opposite edge by 2023 fourth-round pick Isaiah McGuire, who replaces Za’Darius Smith after he was traded to the Lions at the deadline last year. McGuire is off to a strong start to his third season, tallying 11 pressures and a sack through three games.
On the inside, it’s another former Wolverine. Cleveland used its first-round pick this offseason, No. 5 overall, on Mason Graham. He had a big impact in last Sunday’s win over Green Bay, registering four QB pressures. He works alongside Maliek Collins, a free-agent addition who is a credible interior pass rusher, recording 5.0 sacks each of the past two seasons and already registering 1.5 this year.
The defense, led by former Lions coach Jim Schwartz since 2023, is formidable. Factoring out points scored by opponents on turnovers and special teams, the unit is allowing just 20.3 per through three games. They held the Packers to just 230 yards and 10 points in Sunday’s upset.
“This defense is outstanding for Cleveland, man,” Campbell said on Tuesday. “We’re going to have our hands full here. Short week, but we’ll be ready to go.”
Man, that defense can dominate - especially versus the run. Gonna be a stout test for the Resurrection Lions.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Very good.
2025 NFL Defense Rankings
How the O-Lines of the three teams the Browns have played:
11. Ravens
31. Pack
32. Bengals
Browns D is good, but Pack O-line had injuries, and the Bengals O-Line is simply not good.
Browns played both Nati and GB at home so going up against the top O-Line on the road will be a big test. The Ravens got an assist from a blocked punt, an INT, and a fumble recovery against the Browns-D. Score was misleading to how well they played.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Top O-line? Detroit?
Heard 2025 would be a massive regression for them now that Ben Johnson left. The IOL is a catastrophe and nobody can generate pressure besides Hutch (who gets double/triple teamed every down.)
Oh, wait….that was from an obituary dated 11 days ago….hang on, checking for updates…
This post shows a lot about your character.
It's been three games.
Let's not forget they did lose to GB just two weeks ago. And maybe Baltimore isn't who we all thought they were. They sure don't appear to be.
It's a long season. I wouldn't go patting yourself on the back quite yet. The Lions played a near flawless game. Maybe their best under this regime.
Absolutely.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
PFF Offensive Line Rankings ahead of Week 4:
- Philadelphia no change
after ranking 26th in pass blocking grade in Week 3 - Denver (nc)
- Buffalo (nc)
- Indianapolis (nc)
- Los Angeles Chargers (nc)
- Los Angeles Rams (up 1)
- Baltimore (down 1)
34 pressures allowed, 85 yards rushing, totally makes sense to move them down one spot - Minnesota (up 7)
- San Francisco (up 1)
- Detroit (up 6)
0 sacks last 2 weeks, 177 + 225 yards rushing, Ratledge had the 5th highest grade of any G this season, Sewell set a new record for highest grade.....creeps into the Top 10 - Washington
- Arizona
- Kansas City
- Tampa Bay
- Atlanta
- Green Bay (lolololol)
- New England
- Jacksonville
- New York Jets
- Chicago
- Carolina
- Pittsburgh
- Dallas
- Seattle
- Tennessee
- New Orleans
- Miami
- New York Giants
- Las Vegas
- Cleveland
- Cincinnati
- Houston
rockaction
Footballguy
Gotta chime in lest we alienate the part of the American and Canadian land mass that lives in those Central and Pacific time zones.
Did you all see PFF? Check it out. I haven't gotten a chance to read it, but Sewell had the highest-graded OL game they've ever graded.
They're giving that **** away like candy over there. Better get your all-day sucker, my peeps.
Whoops. Here you go:
www.pff.com
Did you all see PFF? Check it out. I haven't gotten a chance to read it, but Sewell had the highest-graded OL game they've ever graded.
They're giving that **** away like candy over there. Better get your all-day sucker, my peeps.
Whoops. Here you go:
Penei Sewell's historic night: The best single-game run-blocking grade in PFF history
Sewell provided the second history outing in Week 3, joining Vikings cornerback Isaiah Rodgers.
www.pff.com
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Baltimore is a very good team.
You guys were awesome out there and look fully on board to avenge that playoff fluke against Washington. I remember after the 2023 season when my Texans were mentioned in the same breath as the Lions - franchises on the up and dark horse Super Bowl contenders. How quickly times have changed
The Washington game was not a fluke. Detroit fielded players on defense who had no business being on the field due to the worst plague of injuries on defense ever. A good QB looks all-world against a pitiful defense. That was not a shocking loss.
Washington was a 10 point underdog. I guess we can agree to disagree but that's a big upset in my book.
I am not one who gives weight into conventional/majority wisdom. As much as a Lions homer as I am, I knew the defense the Lions fielded was not strong enough to win playoff games. The majority of the starting defense was practice squad fodder some of which was picked up off the streets a few weeks before. The loss hurt, but I was not disappointed or surprised.
It was't long ago where everyone viewed Dan Campbell as some Knucklehead. Now people are starting to see the wisdom in his aggressiveness. Dan Campbell is a pioneer who is changing how people view these aggressive decisions. Late game the Lions have total confidence in putting the ball into this offenses hands and letting them win it. And the offense has the confidence to execute any play.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Coach Campbell Weekly call in to 97.1
Dan Campbell On The Lions Win Over The Ravens | Costa and Jansen
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Jared Goff weekly call in to 97.1
Jared Goff On The Lions Monday Night Win Over The Ravens | Karsch and Anderson
We all want the same thing for this team. I don't recall anyone saying there would be a MASSIVE regression. That the interior line was a CATASTROPHE.
Some, including myself, did say nobody can generate pressure outside of Hutch. They've shown they can. Fantastic.
That doesn't change my view about a need for an edge opposite Hutch.
In the end, having a different opinion doesn't warrant this condescending tone.
My view was that this team was better than last years. Never gave a second thought to losing our OC and DC. This team is set up to be a dynasty. Everything about this Lions organization is set up to win and win long term. Best team and organization there is. Their defensive line is stout. The sacks against Lamar Jackson while extremely impressive was not as impressive as the way they contained Lamar and kept Derrick Henry in check. The Lions window to win Super Bowls is as long as Dan stays head coach.
swabs
Footballguy
Major
Footballguy
Baltimore is a very good team.
You guys were awesome out there and look fully on board to avenge that playoff fluke against Washington. I remember after the 2023 season when my Texans were mentioned in the same breath as the Lions - franchises on the up and dark horse Super Bowl contenders. How quickly times have changed
The Washington game was not a fluke. Detroit fielded players on defense who had no business being on the field due to the worst plague of injuries on defense ever. A good QB looks all-world against a pitiful defense. That was not a shocking loss.
Washington was a 10 point underdog. I guess we can agree to disagree but that's a big upset in my book.
I am not one who gives weight into conventional/majority wisdom. As much as a Lions homer as I am, I knew the defense the Lions fielded was not strong enough to win playoff games. The majority of the starting defense was practice squad fodder some of which was picked up off the streets a few weeks before. The loss hurt, but I was not disappointed or surprised.
That's great, you're great. Please let me know when you find more sure things like this. TIA
Moonlight
Footballguy
Agree there is too much tunnel vision in this thread and a lack of tolerance for others thoughts and opinions.
We all want the same thing for this team. I don't recall anyone saying there would be a MASSIVE regression. That the interior line was a CATASTROPHE.
Some, including myself, did say nobody can generate pressure outside of Hutch. They've shown they can. Fantastic.
That doesn't change my view about a need for an edge opposite Hutch.
In the end, having a different opinion doesn't warrant this condescending tone.
Pile that on with a heaping dose of condescension and this
becomes a much less inviting place to post.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yeah I am not betting the side either. If I was going to make a bet, the under 44.5 looks more attractive.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
This feels like a Jamo big play touchdown game. Very good and aggressive defense gets burned on a double move or a reverse.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Apparently the updated odds don't seem to agree with me that this could be a close game. Lions now -10, -535 on the money line.
Lions, Browns initial injury report: Al-Quadin Muhammad has knee injury
Goodness, I hope it's not serious.
Goodness, I hope it's not serious.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
For the last couple of years the Lions have been the most bet on team in the NFL. I am sure it isn't just the spread, but less than 48 hours after their performance on Monday I would except this line to get bigger.
And/or a big Gibbs game. Especially after Monty showed up big Monday night. Can easily see Gibbs busting a few big plays.
kutta
Footballguy
Why do you say things like this? I just moved Jamo to my bench and now I’m thinking about it again…
Kuz
Footballguy
He's on my bench as well. Not sure Goff will have enough time to go deep. I see dump offs to Gibbs or short passes to ARB & LaPorta
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Lol, my fault. It feels like the skill positions take turns going off after ARSB and Gibbs. Montgomery was last week, so this week has to be Laporta or Jamo. Flip a coin.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Excellent news for Lions fans. AQM was obviously a huge contributor to their 7 sack day vs Lamar.
Muhammad looks to be the missing piece in the DL. When McNeil comes back the Lions will have a very formidable DL who will dominate the line of scrimmage and blow up the pocket. The Lions vision when Brad and Dan came in was to build a championship caliber team in 3 years. They delivered. The best offense in the NFL, and I think their defense is coming to the point where they will be a top 10 defense. Detroit defense has studs at every level.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Come on. Muhammad had a great game, but he is a 30 year old journeyman. You said the same thing about James Houston a couple of years ago. Could he be a decent rotation piece? Maybe, but he isn't the missing piece opposite Hutch.
You are also being unfair to McNeil. That was a serious knee injury and it isn't fair to expect him to be Alim. Best case he is 90 of what he was by the playoffs and fully back to his pro bowl/all pro next year.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Injury report, doesn't look like anything new on the Lions.
All I said is he looks like. The difference between Muhammad and Houston is I trusted my eyes more than the coaching staff. The Lions were never high on Houston, so they obviously felt he was not the right fit and did not have the dedication to football they expect. Kelvin Sheppard on the other hand says that he viewed Muhammad as a must-have piece to the defense and made him a top priority to bring back. I live in Indiana and a lot of the Colts fans were not happy Muhammad was let go. He was a much more impactful player than what shows up in the stats. So i am pretty confident that Muhammad will be much more than a 'journeyman'.
As far as Alim, I don't think either of us are doctors and know, but I trust he will work hard and comeback as a great piece to the defensive line. I appologize to all for the optimistic view and the trust in the Lions organization. I know I am being a horrible fan not to share all the negativity.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Gauntlet tossed. It begins.
https://x.com/camijustice
Camryn Justice
@camijustice
·5h
#Browns DE Myles Garrett on Lions OC John Morton saying Cleveland's defense hasn't "seen a run game like ours yet": "He's entitled to his opinion. He hasn't seen a defensive front like ours...we have the privilege to see who's right."
________________________________________________
Be there with bells on, baby.
You guys know I like Detroit. I think they win this game. I doubt they're running the ball well. Only thing that gives me pause is Maliek Collins in the Cleveland DI. He's got a great pass rush grade. Outstanding. But what is their DI like against Detroit's run? Mason Graham, Maliek Collins, Adin Huntington. Holy smoke and oh boy.
These guys are beasts. This is a heavyweight freaking fight coming up,
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Camryn Justice
@camijustice
·5h
#Browns DE Myles Garrett on Lions OC John Morton saying Cleveland's defense hasn't "seen a run game like ours yet": "He's entitled to his opinion. He hasn't seen a defensive front like ours...we have the privilege to see who's right."
________________________________________________
Be there with bells on, baby.
You guys know I like Detroit. I think they win this game. I doubt they're running the ball well. Only thing that gives me pause is Maliek Collins in the Cleveland DI. He's got a great pass rush grade. Outstanding. But what is their DI like against Detroit's run? Mason Graham, Maliek Collins, Adin Huntington. Holy smoke and oh boy.
These guys are beasts. This is a heavyweight freaking fight coming up,
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh schnap. We woke up on Friday ready to go, didn't we? Rook has things to say.
Browns fan UK
@brownsfanuk
·6h
Browns rookie DT Mason Graham in response to Lions OC John Morton’s recent comment:
Morton: “I don’t think they’ve seen a run game like ours yet.”
Graham: “We've stopped the run every week and that's what we're going to continue to do.”
Browns fan UK
@brownsfanuk
·6h
Browns rookie DT Mason Graham in response to Lions OC John Morton’s recent comment:
Morton: “I don’t think they’ve seen a run game like ours yet.”
Graham: “We've stopped the run every week and that's what we're going to continue to do.”
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Love Myles Garrett, I think he is the best defensive end in the league. Going to be a fun matchup if he lines up against Sewell. Best in league against best in league.
rockaction
Footballguy
When your team stinks and always stinks there is the consolation prize of just appreciating the league and getting to maybe check out some real teams, hall of famers, all-pros, and whatever else you want to even if it detracts a bit from your knowledge of your own team and matchup.
As soon as they reported that an entitled, seventeen year-old nepo baby of the owner had our GM saying, "I answer to a teenager" I just freaking quit. I already had anyway, but now I won't even waste three or four hours on it. Not even half an hour, really, unless there's a fantasy football reason.
Not until the owner and his kid die; and I'm not outlasting the kid, most likely, so **** it and **** giving that sack of bones any time or money.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Sorry about the Jets, my only advice is adopt another team or are you saying the Lions are that team?
rockaction
Footballguy
Heh. That would be cool. No, I pull for you guys but the Jets, unless they are defunct, are my team. It's not really a choice for me for some reason. If I could change it I think I would have long ago. No, sometimes we do with the lot we're given.
Thanks for the advice, but I just can't do it.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
You can't change horses mid Jetstream
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