2025 Las Vegas Raiders thread - ☠ Mork and Brady - wait what is this weird feeling that doesn't hurt my heart after a draft is complete? ☠ (46 Viewers)

[Chaka]

And Mike Green to the friggin' Ravens with the next pick ...

Kidding aside. The Raiders defense couldn't stop Kyler Murray to save their lives. He scrambled behind the LoS for 20 seconds on that 2 point conversion. TWENTY!

Yes, Renfrow 's fumble six was the last play of that game but it was a team loss all the way. Renfrow took a vicious hit on that play and ended up in the protocol because of it. He wasn't the same player when he came back.

Two seasons removed I think he deserves a chance to show if he is all the way back.

 

[LawFitz]

And Mike Green to the friggin' Ravens with the next pick ...

In fairness, Ravens are much better equipped to handle questionable character right now than the Raiders. Need to establish the right culture and depth and then it's a different equation with these situations.

Otherwise totally agree with you that Green looks like a steal in terms of onfield talent.

 

[LawFitz]

6'3"195 lbs Iowa State​

Porter is an excellent special teams player who blocked four punts and one field goal attempt at Iowa State. He moved from receiver to corner in 2022 and didn't start at cornerback until 2024, but he has rare upside. He had the third-fastest 40-yard dash regardless of position at the combine (4.30). Porter has outstanding arm length and recovery speed to develop into an elite press corner. He reads the quarterback and tracks the ball well in zone coverage, and he plucks the ball out of the air. He has the frame, length and strength to prevent receivers from coming down with 50-50 balls. -- Steve Muench

Reminds me of Riq Woolen. Prototypical Pete Carroll traits CB pick. Should have seen this one coming.

 

[LawFitz]

And Mike Green to the friggin' Ravens with the next pick ...

Kidding aside. The Raiders defense couldn't stop Kyler Murray to save their lives. He scrambled behind the LoS for 20 seconds on that 2 point conversion. TWENTY!

Yes, Renfrow 's fumble six was the last play of that game but it was a team loss all the way. Renfrow took a vicious hit on that play and ended up in the protocol because of it. He wasn't the same player when he came back.

Two seasons removed I think he deserves a chance to show if he is all the way back.

How much of this is because you want to wear your Renfrow jerseys (black and white) with pride again?

 

[Hankmoody]

If we want a big corner I'd want Shavon Revel. If we want a safety (which I believe Porter will end up) I'd want Xavier Watts by a mile.

 

[Chadstroma]

6'3"195 lbs Iowa State​

Porter is an excellent special teams player who blocked four punts and one field goal attempt at Iowa State. He moved from receiver to corner in 2022 and didn't start at cornerback until 2024, but he has rare upside. He had the third-fastest 40-yard dash regardless of position at the combine (4.30). Porter has outstanding arm length and recovery speed to develop into an elite press corner. He reads the quarterback and tracks the ball well in zone coverage, and he plucks the ball out of the air. He has the frame, length and strength to prevent receivers from coming down with 50-50 balls. -- Steve Muench

Reminds me of Riq Woolen. Prototypical Pete Carroll traits CB pick. Should have seen this one coming.

Seahawks had a dang good track record of drafting CB's while he was there

 

[ZADO]

Raiders selected Iowa State CB Darien Porter with the No. 68 overall pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.

A former high school track star who won the Iowa state 400-meters championship as a junior, Porter (6'3/195) spent most of his first three of his six collegiate seasons as a receiver who saw sparse playing time before switching sides to play cornerback. Despite only starting seven games, he was extremely productive on a per-play basis, registering three interceptions and two PBU on just 17 targets. His inexperience on the defensive side of the ball was evident in his unsightly 20.8% missed tackle rate. Long and rangy frame helps him stay in phase downfield and rarely gets beat. His .34 yards allowed per coverage snap and 3.7 NFL passer rating allowed are both absurd marks and indicative of Porter’s standout 2024 campaign. Verified his freaky traits with a 9.99 Relative Athletic Score that blew away the rest of the CB group. He does an excellent job turning his head around and locating the ball downfield, as he did on a textbook interception against Texas Tech, showing his wide receiver caliber hands. A long and fleet athlete who ramps up to speed quickly which allows him to catch up when in a trailing position. Demonstrates a good feel for the position, as he smartly peeled off a deep route vs. Miami to deflect a pass into an interception. Although he’s an older prospect who has to adjust to the rigors of the position, Porter has the right tools to work with to become a productive NFL CB2. New Raiders coach Pete Carroll apparently still likes taller corners.

 

[joey]

I haven’t recognized a player’s name in the past 50 picks

 

[LawFitz]

Despite only starting seven games, he was extremely productive on a per-play basis, registering three interceptions and two PBU on just 17 targets. His inexperience on the defensive side of the ball was evident in his unsightly 20.8% missed tackle rate. Long and rangy frame helps him stay in phase downfield and rarely gets beat. His .34 yards allowed per coverage snap and 3.7 NFL passer rating allowed are both absurd marks and indicative of Porter’s standout 2024 campaign. Verified his freaky traits with a 9.99 Relative Athletic Score that blew away the rest of the CB group.

Richard Sherman transitioned from WR to CB in college as well. 3 INTs, 2 PBUs and 3.7 QBR on 17 targets. Interdasting.

 

[Chadstroma]

If Sanders is still there and we pass on him at 98 and 99 that will say a lot considering how much interaction Brady has had with him.

 

[joey]

If Sanders is still there and we pass on him at 98 and 99 that will say a lot considering how much interaction Brady has had with him.

It’s crazy that Pittsburg only have a Kenny Pickett at QB and haven’t taken one. As I type this they’re 5 picks away and have to take a QB, right? Weird.

 

[LawFitz]

I haven’t recognized a player’s name in the past 50 picks

You need to do these next year. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

Lots and lots and lots of these. Your boss and wife (same person or not) won't mind at all.

 

[joey]

I haven’t recognized a player’s name in the past 50 picks

You need to do these next year. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

Lots and lots and lots of these. Your boss and wife (same person or not) won't mind at all.

lol. Truth.


I actually did a couple of those mocks and only picked players whose names I knew. So I went RB, WR, CB or QB, RB, WR.

I leave the scouting to you all. I have the complaining and whining department covered.

 

[LawFitz]

Damn. Stillers got my dude Kaleb Johnson. Luv their first three picks this year, including stud DT Derrick Harmon in rd 1 and a random WR named big DK Metcalf in rd 2. Who needs a Shedeur.

 

[ICON211]

Damn. Stillers got my dude Kaleb Johnson. Luv their first three picks this year, including stud DT Derrick Harmon in rd 1 and a random WR named big DK Metcalf in rd 2. Who needs a Shedeur.

I'm very high on Kaleb as well and will definitely be reaching for him in fantasy drafts.

 

[Chadstroma]

If Sanders is still there and we pass on him at 98 and 99 that will say a lot considering how much interaction Brady has had with him.

It’s crazy that Pittsburg only have a Kenny Pickett at QB and haven’t taken one. As I type this they’re 5 picks away and have to take a QB, right? Weird.

Steelers don't have Pickett. He is in Cleveland now. They have Rudolf and Skyler Thompson and apparently still hoping Rodgers heads there.

 

[LawFitz]

They have Rudolf and Skyler Thompson and apparently still hoping Rodgers heads there.

Nah, they're waiting to start Shede Sanders as an UDFA

 

[SDJohnny]

Damn Seahawks.

 

[Hankmoody]

Man I would really have liked Milroe as a developmental guy here, especially if Kelly whipped up some specialty plays/alignments for him.

 

[LawFitz]

Gimme Jalen Royals and either Skattebo or Dylan Sampson and let's call it a great great night for Raider Nation. Sorry Shede.

ETA: Maxx loves DE Jack Sawyer out of OH St. Excited for back to backs upcoming...

 

[Chadstroma]

I am good with taking Sanders here. Take the swing. Him and Xavier Watts.

 

[ICON211]

Gimme Jalen Royals and either Skattebo or Dylan Sampson and let's call it a great great night for Raider Nation. Sorry Shede.

ETA: Maxx loves DE Jack Sawyer out of OH St. Excited for back to backs upcoming...

Another RB I really like is Jaydon Blue.

 

[WVU Alum]

Please don’t Raider these next two picks.

 

[Chadstroma]

Real close to back to back picks here....

 

[Hankmoody]

I have no words.

 

[Chadstroma]

DAMN YOU FALCONS.

 

[LawFitz]

Raiders have safeties. All good.

 

[Chaka]

If only they had five picks in the top 97 instead of the top 100.

 

[ZADO]

If Sanders is still there and we pass on him at 98 and 99 that will say a lot considering how much interaction Brady has had with him.

Its those damn GIANT chains he wears

 

[WVU Alum]

Guard. Interesting
I expected a linebacker

 

[Chadstroma]

2020: Played in 9 games with starts in the final 3 games at LT.
2021: Started all 13 games at RT.
2022: Started all 13 games at LT.
2023: Honorable Mention All-Big 12 Conference. Started all 13 games at RT.
2024: Honorable Mention All-Big 12. Started all 13 games (2 at LG, 1 at RG, 10 at RT).

Overview

Durable, unselfish guard prospect with broad hips and adequate upper-body power. Rogers is smooth and effective as a pulling blocker but struggles to generate movement as a drive blocker due to his lack of bend. He protects from a wide base with a punch that is direct and forceful. He struggles with foot quickness and balance to stay in front of athletic rushers and crafty counters, though. He offers Day 3 value, but the ceiling appears to be capped.

Strengths

Absolute ironman, logging over 4,200 career snaps, per PFF.Protection at guard is bolstered by experience at tackle.Pass punch is direct and well-aimed.Turns out feet and unlocks hips to create a rush anchor.Good radar when pulling to find and kick out defenders.Climbs to linebackers with steady feet and good balance.Keeps pad level square on his combo blocks.

Weaknesses

Stiffness in his knees limit functional leverage.Needs to keep his feet under him on lateral slides.Lacks quickness and pad level for reach blocks.Below-average foot quickness in his protection mirror.Will struggle with rush counters when isolated on an island.Displays some indecision against twists and blitzes.

 

[WVU Alum]

Two Oline.

 

[SDJohnny]

Caleb Rogers
GUARD

6'5"312 lbsTexas Tech
11POS RK
122OVR RK
66GRADE

Pre-Draft Analysis​

Rogers started 52 college games at both tackle spots and only three games at both guard spots. Still, he'll likely play guard in the NFL. Rogers does a good job of walling off defenders and getting some push in the running game. He can properly seal frontside defenders and cut off backside defenders; he's effective working up to the second level. Rogers gets set quickly, and he can time his punch well as a pass blocker. He performed well at the combine, and he moves his feet fast enough to mirror when his footwork is sound. -- Steve Muench

 

[LawFitz]

If only they had five picks in the top 97 instead of the top 100.

Eh, you would have only been even more mad that they reached for two random OL.

 

[SDJohnny]

Charles Grant
OT

6'5"311 lbsWilliam & Mary
8POS RK
85OVR RK
75GRAD

Pre-Draft Analysis​

Grant started 41 games at left tackle in college. He is quick with long arms, and he changes directions well as a pass blocker. He rides speed rushers past the quarterback and can mirror defenders who try to cross his face. Grant is strong enough to anchor, using his big hands to lock out. He played a zone-heavy scheme in college, and joining a similar system at the next level would lead to an easier transition. There's room for improvement when it comes to his footwork and his angles, but he moves well laterally and has good range. He plays with an edge. -- Steve Muench

 

[Chadstroma]

2020-21: Played in 3 games as a reserve in the team's spring season. School did not play in the fall due to COVID-19 concerns.
2021: Played in all 11 games with 5 starts at LT.
2022: First-team All-Coastal Athletic Association. Started all 13 games at LT.
2023: Second-team Associated Press All-American. First-team All-Coastal Athletic Association. Started all 11 games at LT.
2024: First-team Associated Press FCS All-American. First-team All-Coastal Athletic Association. Started all 12 games at LT.
Donated bone marrow in the spring of 2023 for a 29-year-old with Hodgkin's lymphoma.

Overview

Highly consistent performer with elite length and better technique than many prospects coming from a higher level of competition. Grant played with both urgency and positioning in William & Mary’s zone-heavy approach, but he needs to add bulk and improve his pad level to play with the drive and anchor needed as a pro. The former high school wrestler utilizes a bag of tricks with his protection approach and possesses adequate core strength to absorb a speed-to-power pass rush. He could develop into a solid pro as either a guard or tackle if he cleans up issues with hand usage.

Strengths

Tree branch arm length with legitimate 7-foot wingspan.Operates with good posture and flat back in pass sets.Will clinch and close distance to control pass rushers.Looks to flummox rusher’s rhythm with feints and chops.Good pace off the snap and into lateral landmarks.Finds footwork and positioning before engaging.Uncoils hips to bolster leverage and strength at the point.

Weaknesses

Massive step up in competition could take time to navigate.Inconsistent punch quickness mitigates his length advantage.Average slide quickness to seal off top of the rush.Has a habit of hugging or holding when attempting to sustain cutoff blocks.Needs to improve pad level for drive-blocking duties in pros.

 

[LawFitz]

Caleb Rogers OT Texas Tech
Height: 6 - 4 |Weight: 312 lbs |RAS: 9.03
Caleb Rogers is a five-year starter who has taken over 4300 reps in his college career. He is a very good athlete who moves well in space, which makes him an effective second-level blocker. Rogers is a nimble pass blocker who is light on his feet, has excellent straight-line speed, and can finish plays down the field. He has positional versatility with experience lining up at left tackle, left guard, right tackle, and right guard. A physical blocker who does well at the point of attack. Rogers has been penalized an obscenely high 25 times in his college career and has below-average pass-blocking numbers. He gave up 22 pressures in 2024 on 610 pass-blocking snaps.

Ghost of Al Le Giant lives on in Pete Carroll!

 

[LawFitz]

Charles Grant OT William & Mary
Height: 6 - 4 |Weight: 311 lbs |RAS: 5.77
Charles Grant is an intriguing prospect at offensive tackle with the athleticism and ability to succeed in the NFL. In pass protection, he does an excellent job of keeping defenders at arm's length, allowing him to maximize leverage. In the run game, he is most effective in a zone scheme, and has the speed to get involved down the field. The step-up in competition level is the main concern for Grant and that could expose his sometimes jerky, lumbering footwork. The raw talent is certainly there, and he'll be a versatile depth piece right out of the gate, but he needs more development before he can be a full-time starter.

Al jokes aside, Raiders are clearly drafting for traits over finished products here in the mid rounds. Gotta hope they are good at a. identifying rough diamonds and b. grinding and polishing them.

 

[Hankmoody]

I love back to back OL. Create competition, see who hits, coach them up and see how they develop.

 

[joey]

Don’t know the last 2 dudes but LOVE that they went OLine/Oline at those back to back picks. Solid.

 

[ChiefD]

Raiders having a hell of a draft. New sheriff in town boys.

 

[massraider]

It occurs to me that the top 3 WRs and the top TE, can all line up in the slot, and outside.

 

[ZADO]

Round 2 (No. 58): WR Jack Bech, TCU

Round 3 (No. 68): CB Darien Porter, Iowa State

Round 3 (No. 98): OG Caleb Rogers, Texas Tech

Round 3 (No. 99): OT Charles Grant, William & Mary



Day 1 grade: A+



Analysis:

• GM John Spytek traded down twice in the second round, acquiring two late third-rounders in the process, and still was able to secure Bech -- one of the few remaining physical downfield targets available after Day 1.
• Vegas wisely used its three third-round picks to address some of the team’s biggest needs (CB and OL) and did so without dipping into their bounty of Day 3 picks. They currently hold six selections on Saturday, including two fourth-round picks.
• The Raiders’ Day 2 grade also gets a boost because they were able to parlay the third-rounder they received for Davante Adams into starting quarterback Geno Smith.

 

[ZADO]

Las Vegas Raiders: B+​

Day 2 players drafted: WR Jack Bech, CB Darien Porter, IOL Caleb Rogers, OT Charles Grant.



Breakdown: The Raiders did a nice job of helping give Geno Smith more help around him for 2025 in addition to Ashton Jeanty. Bech adds strength and great hands to the Raiders receiving corps, and Rogers and Grant provide more offensive line depth.



Porter was one of the best pure athletes in this entire draft class.

 

[LawFitz]

Wishlist for today

2 DL + another RB, CB and WR

There are several Aaron Donald body types at 3T DT that look interesting. Dylan Sampson is a stud mighty mite RB. Jaylen Royals would be a really nice add at WR. Dorian Strong and Korie Black fit the Pete CB mold.

 

[massraider]

Thinking all defense. There's LB value, according to the best available lists I have seen.

 

[Chadstroma]

Raiders draft Iowa State CB Darien Porter with pick No. 68. He scored a 9.99 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 5 out of 2752 CB from 1987 to 2025.

BIG 6’3” corner with a 6’8” wingspan, 4.30 40 yard dash, and above average cone/shuttle times.

Insane stats:
- Allowed receptions on just 29% of targets (best in the FBS)
- 4.7 passer rating when targeted (best in the entire draft)
- Targeted just 1 in 11.9 coverage snaps (second best among FBS prospects)

 

[Chaka]

Raiders draft Iowa State CB Darien Porter with pick No. 68. He scored a 9.99 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 5 out of 2752 CB from 1987 to 2025.

Yeah, well he's no Christine Michael.

 

[Chaka]

Did a medium depth dive on Bench clips last night. He may be my new favorite Raider.

After Maxx of course


...and RENFROW!!!!

 

[Chadstroma]

2021 (Oregon): Played in all 14 games with 2 starts (9-175-19.4, 2 TDs).
2022 (Oregon): Played in 11 games with 3 starts (17-366-21.5, TD).
2023: Played in 9 games with 3 starts (13-224-17.2, TD). Missed the end of the season with a lower leg injury.
2024: Led the team with 661 receiving yards (on 26 receptions), 6 receiving TDs. Led the FBS with 25.4 yards per reception. Played in all 13 games with 4 starts.

Overview

Long, linear target whose primary function is to take the top off of defenses. Thornton can play through early contact and works past tight man coverage. He’s talented at stacking cornerbacks and tracking the ball when he finds top positioning. He can strike over the top or with routes allowing him to catch on the move. His route tree is limited, so two-high safety looks could park him in the garage. He’s average after the catch on short throws but plays as big as he measures, winning contested catches on all three levels. Thornton is a low-volume target with erratic production, but teams looking for vertical juice should have him on their boards.

Strengths

Explosive vertically, with a career average of 21.9 yards per catch.Play strength and hand-fighting pull him past physical corners.Able to sink hips and gather quickly for comebacks.Talent to track, adjust and win contested deep throws.True speed to make house calls when catching on the move.Works away from coverage and toward the throw for quarterbacks.

Weaknesses

Runs a three-route tree with slight variations.Value can be snuffed out by deep safety looks.Long strides are gradual and rounded on in-breaking routes.Separation burst from route breaks is average.Lacks decisiveness and wiggle after the catch.