Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Why would they want to run those guys out of town, exactly!
Same reasons Miami fans should hope McDaniel keeps his job until at least the Bye week
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2025 Miami Dolphins - 1-4, Currently hold the #4 pick in the draft. (10 Viewers)
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Same reasons Miami fans should hope McDaniel keeps his job until at least the Bye week
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
If they are going to fire McDaniel, they should fire everyone on the coaching staff the same day
Start taking applications from the people who help park cars out in the parking lot on Sundays, maybe even the concession stands along the walkways around Hard Rock
If you can't throw games behind the scenes Stephen Ross, just do it out in the open and say you want to give an average man a chance in this World
The fans will understand, believe me and Roger Goodell can't come after you for hiring anyone you want to coach the team the rest of the year.
Be Bold!
Start taking applications from the people who help park cars out in the parking lot on Sundays, maybe even the concession stands along the walkways around Hard Rock
If you can't throw games behind the scenes Stephen Ross, just do it out in the open and say you want to give an average man a chance in this World
The fans will understand, believe me and Roger Goodell can't come after you for hiring anyone you want to coach the team the rest of the year.
Be Bold!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Tua Tags can no longer be discussed as the Miami Dolphins' Franchise Quarterback, those days or discussions must be over.
Barry Jackson wrote "7TDs and 7 Interceptions final 5 minutes of football games and Tua sinks to a 70s passer rating"
That's awful and tells more of the story of Tua
We are in Year 1 of the Tua extension so again he's here to stay right now, not a darn thing that can be done
$99.2M in dead cap 2026
After 2026, $32M dead cap spread over a couple years, manageable.
McDaniel will be fired end of the season, Grier who knows?
Barry Jackson wrote "7TDs and 7 Interceptions final 5 minutes of football games and Tua sinks to a 70s passer rating"
That's awful and tells more of the story of Tua
We are in Year 1 of the Tua extension so again he's here to stay right now, not a darn thing that can be done
$99.2M in dead cap 2026
After 2026, $32M dead cap spread over a couple years, manageable.
McDaniel will be fired end of the season, Grier who knows?
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Grier should have been fired for that move alone. Coach lawsuit the hypocrite and whistle blower.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Mike McDaniel vs teams with a losing record
25-12
Mike McDaniel vs teams with a winning record
3-14
He'll cook his own goose, just leave him be right now. We got the right guy to lead us into double digit losses this season, don;'t stop the train
25-12
Mike McDaniel vs teams with a winning record
3-14
He'll cook his own goose, just leave him be right now. We got the right guy to lead us into double digit losses this season, don;'t stop the train
SwampDawg
Footballguy
This is actually ok. Let's say we manage a top 3 pick this year, you fire Grier and McDaniel and bring in a whole new cast. One they identify someone worth taking in the top three as a QB, I personally don't think there is this year but maybe they do. If so i doubt it is anyone you are going to want to start right away so you let Tua roll out there and take the abuse until he breaks or you feel the rookie is ready the back half of the year. Then 2027 you cut Tua and take your lumps but they are manageable. Option two if no QB is worth a top 3 pick in the new groups eyes, you've got two tackles rated in the top 5 if Mauigoa and Procter come out, take one and start the rebuild with a stud OT and let Tua flounder another year and get you a high draft pick for 2027 which I think projects as a better QB draft, especially if Manning develops. Option 3 trade back, accumulate ammo for 2027 draft to go after Manning if you think he projects out that well.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
They played hard yesterday and were maybe one stupid roughing penalty from winning a road game at Buffalo. Not getting embarrassed like week 1 so the firing talk should calm a bit - but it won’t
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Dolphins PFF grades: Best and worst performers vs. Bills
Rookie running back Ollie Gordon II provided a spark Thursday night.
dolphinswire.usatoday.com
Many PFF scores from last night on both sides
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Paul, Savaiiinaea,and Borum had 3 of the worst PFF ratings of the night
Offensive line grades poorly but I feel like Tua had enough time to deliver his throws
The OL seems to be able to keep Achane moving right now
Waddle somehow had one of the higher scores, I hardly saw him do anything after Tyreek Hill left the game
We pay Waddle WR1 money, he should be able to still stretch the field and if he cannot, then we need to get him out of here as well and start over at WR
I hope Waddle is ready to answer the call, Miami needs him to be a leader right now
Offensive line grades poorly but I feel like Tua had enough time to deliver his throws
The OL seems to be able to keep Achane moving right now
Waddle somehow had one of the higher scores, I hardly saw him do anything after Tyreek Hill left the game
We pay Waddle WR1 money, he should be able to still stretch the field and if he cannot, then we need to get him out of here as well and start over at WR
I hope Waddle is ready to answer the call, Miami needs him to be a leader right now
Waddle isn’t going anywhere unless Miami burns it down in the off season. He's 12th in WR salary, his cap # is 8, 11, then 33 mil in 2027, when they would need to restructure. Better to keep him even during a rebuild.
On the TD drive in the 3rd quarter after Hill was injured, Waddle had 3 targets, a DPI, and 16 and 7 yard receptions, 3 first downs. On the last 4 drives, Waddle had no targets. He's not Jefferson or Chase good, but he can stretch the defense opening it up for the run game and the TEs - even Julian Hill has become more involved the last 2 weeks. He's a good separator for getting first downs. I agree, the next 13 games will tell us how good Waddle is - can he be a leader on the field. Tyreek will be gone for good next June.
We may only be favored in 2 of the next 13 games, @CAR this week and home vs NO in 7 weeks. I have mixed feelings about the benefit of losing vs winning. We're not going anywhere this year.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Sometimes even when you win, you lose. We now sit behind the Jets, Titans and Saints in the race for the #1 pick. The good news is we play the Jets in NY yet and we play the Saints. The bad news with Carolina and Cleveland in two of the next three we could get to 3 wins and take ourselves completely out of the hunt for the top pick.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Jets can't rush the passer. Whenever we have a matchup where the D can't bring heat, Miami should have time to operate their offense.
Beating the Jets in a down year is the only thing I care about. If we go 2-15 and our only 2 wins are against NY I'm fine. If we go 1-16 and the only game we won was monday I'm good with that too.
On to the state of the Phins:
Sheesh. What a mess. An O line that cannot block and a D line that for some reason they are being too cute with. With the talent we have on the D line we should be able to get there with 4 and we should never have to blitz with more than one extra person.
McDaniel hitched his wagon to Tua and much like all the other Coaches we have had who hitch their wagons to flawed qbs, they will likely be better the next HC go round. (I could swear Aaron Glenn was telling McDanie post gamel he has a job as the jets OC if the phins fire him).
Weaver is no better. Their scheme makes no sense. You run cover zero vs Wilson TWICE! on that last drive? Once I get, because it was a surprise, but AGAIN?????
So Gatorman's wish list:
1) DO NOT FIRE MCDANIEL UNTIL AT LEAST AFTER THE SEASON: I like him, but he lost the locker room. Moreover, I do not want someone like Weaver becoming HC and then we get to 5-12 bc the players play harder after a coach is fired.
2) Please draft a Jayden Daniels and not a Caleb Williams.
3) I still prefer an Offensive HC.
4) Grier needs to go, but will Ross finally replace both at the same time?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The team is unlikely to tank
I agree with @Gatorman that you might as well let McDaniel coach out most of the season, I don't really want to see him fired and an intern comes in for half a season, no thanks
The team has struggled and went thru a catastrophic injury this week, still managed to win a game, the players need Coach MM right now to try and navigate some of these obstacles
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The Chargers are down both starting OL Tackles right now, we face them after Carolina, might be more competitive than some would think
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Xavien Howard retired from the Colts today
I've got no mixed feelings any longer. Tank job is the way. Are there any good QBs coming out next year?
Yeah, maybe they will win by 10 instead of 30.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Lots of good Qbs, but you have to hope we get a Daniels and not a williams (or for those who like to beat a dead horse a Herbert instead of a Tua).
There are 4-5 good Qbs that come out every year (this year notwithstanding), but, and lets face it, Miami still has Tua on the books as well as not a ton of draft picks this cycle
So then it turns into the two best ways to win:
QB on a cheap contract or
Journeyman QB and load up everywhere else but most importantly get more draft picks.
With Miami's cap issues 2026 is likely a dead year too, unless we decide to get a QB and an O line guru. Lots of good Qbs coming up in this draft and even better in 2026.
With what Tyreek, Armstead, and Ramsey's cap hits are going to be in 2026 with Tua also on the books for a lot of money, this is back to the wilderness for us.
Now, we should not be favored in any remaining games. Tua isn’t the biggest problem, neither is coach McDaniel. It's GM Grier who started focusing on shiny toys, instead of the trenches, a few years ago. And now his recent picks in the trenches, aside from LT Paul last year, have been failures. His tradeups for Liam, Wright, and Jonah Savaiinaea lost us valuable draft picks, Grier acted like we were 1 or 2 picks away from success. Ross tampering also cost us a 1st and a 3rd.
>>Pains me to write, because K. Grant/Jonah S. are nice young men, good college players & trying to improve. But PFF rates them the worst players in the league at their position (118th, 76th). Difficult to overstate how damaging it is for your top 2 picks to be this ineffective.<<
>>Pains me to write, because K. Grant/Jonah S. are nice young men, good college players & trying to improve. But PFF rates them the worst players in the league at their position (118th, 76th). Difficult to overstate how damaging it is for your top 2 picks to be this ineffective.<<
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Might be little too late, but feel like I'm finally seeing McDaniel grow/adapt a bit.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Panthers may have gotten Mike McDaniel fired after latest Dolphins collapse
The Carolina Panthers may have looked dead in the water in the first half of their game against an equally poor Miami Dolphins team, but the way in which Dave C
Mike McDaniel May Have Just Analytics'd Himself out of a Job
The analytics might’ve said punt. But football isn’t played by asking ChatGPT for instructions.
www.miaminewtimes.com
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Omar and Joe Rose were talking this morning, Omar thinks they should stop playing Grant all together, he's allowing something like 5.5-6 yds a rush, teams are running over him
Jonah at Guard is a little different, he fails on 5-7 plays a game but those failures are drive killers.
2025 terrible draft so far for Grier, stunning
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