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they've got a rookie cooking in Channing Tindall.
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2025 Miami Dolphins - Week 2; Time to burn it down? (13 Viewers)
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TripleThreat
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Kareem Hunt Tyreek Hill miss you bro love fest currently ongoing on insta...
Todem
Footballguy
I don’t get Chubb. Not an elite player. Not worth the draft capital or contract. Just looked up his numbers. Ho hum after a great rookie campaign.
I would sit tight. We are not winning a Super Bowl this season. We need to have a strong draft and off-season in 2023 and then we can see where we are at. This is year is about getting into the post season and at least winning a post season game. That was all my expectations were heading into 2022. New coach, new system.
The Jets.....not as close as we are. And when they come down here later this season....they will get thumped if we are healthy and have our full arsenal on offense.
The Giants....not as close as we are.
There are a lot of fraudulent teams this season. Been a strange year so far.
I have never seen this much parity in the NFL.....I mean it is a crap shoot save for a few of the clearcut teams thus far (Bills, Eagles and Chiefs) that can truly separate themselves.
3 clear cuts thus far:
Bills
Eagles
Chiefs
Best of the Rest AFC:
Dolphins
Bengals
Ravens
Titans
Chargers
Best of the Rest NFC:
49ers
Vikings
Cowboys
Giants (crazy)
Crap shoot folks. Some really bad divisions, some huge disappointing teams.....really weird year as far as quality of play.
So we have a legit shot to advance in the post season if we stay healthy from this point on. We need Byron Jones back ASAP. And what has happened to our pass rush specialists this season? They have disappeared.
I am firmly behind Tua now.....I have seen enough this season to know he is our guy. Just keep him healthy!! He has turned a corner. And this team plays for him. Yes he still has some shortcomings and needs to keep working hard.....but he has shown a lot this season thus far. And boy it helps when you have Hill and Waddle. They are fun to watch.
Todem
Footballguy
Kareem Hunt would be a great addition. Now there is a dynamic RB who would elevate the offense instantly.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
this has been super frustrating but at least we'll have an answer in the coming weeks.
In the secondary, it's star players Holland and Howard, and a bunch of cheap guys who played well in the 2nd half: 7th rounder Crossen, Kahou, and McKinley. Assuming Brandon Jones comes back next year, and we get another CB, the secondary could become good. We can cut Byron with this impact per Barry Jackson:
>>If he doesn’t play this season — or returns and plays poorly — keep in mind that his $13.5 million salary is nonguaranteed in 2023. He has a big 2023 cap hit ($18.9 million), and that cap hit drops only to $14.8 million if he’s cut before June 1 but $4.8 million if he’s cut after June 1. So if the Dolphins want to release him after this season, waiting until after June 1 makes the most sense. The Dolphins also could try to restructure with him for the purpose of keeping him. The Dolphins have already revised Jones’ contract to have $5.3 million dead money hit in 2025, and a $2.7 million hit in 2026, per two cap websites, even though he can become a free agent after 2024.<<
>>If he doesn’t play this season — or returns and plays poorly — keep in mind that his $13.5 million salary is nonguaranteed in 2023. He has a big 2023 cap hit ($18.9 million), and that cap hit drops only to $14.8 million if he’s cut before June 1 but $4.8 million if he’s cut after June 1. So if the Dolphins want to release him after this season, waiting until after June 1 makes the most sense. The Dolphins also could try to restructure with him for the purpose of keeping him. The Dolphins have already revised Jones’ contract to have $5.3 million dead money hit in 2025, and a $2.7 million hit in 2026, per two cap websites, even though he can become a free agent after 2024.<<
Todem
Footballguy
Byron Jones will either restructure or be waived after June 1st. I don’t see any other way that plays out. And that’s if the Dolphins are even interested in keeping him.
Bottom line is.....he is valuable to us. He is a lock down CB. Think about it. Xavien get’s all the glory but why are they throwing to his side when Byron is in the lineup? Yep...Byron is a lockdown guy. But this injury has been a real monkey wrench. He obviously had a big setback in his rehab. I really hope he makes it back to full strength this season because it changes things and allows us to start blitzing again. We have basically shutdown the cover ) scheme due to a ton of injuries. We have been really lackluster on defense too many times. The offense has bailed us out. Which is nice to see.....but we need both sides playing well to have a shot at advancing in the post season.....let alone making the post season.
Bottom line is.....he is valuable to us. He is a lock down CB. Think about it. Xavien get’s all the glory but why are they throwing to his side when Byron is in the lineup? Yep...Byron is a lockdown guy. But this injury has been a real monkey wrench. He obviously had a big setback in his rehab. I really hope he makes it back to full strength this season because it changes things and allows us to start blitzing again. We have basically shutdown the cover ) scheme due to a ton of injuries. We have been really lackluster on defense too many times. The offense has bailed us out. Which is nice to see.....but we need both sides playing well to have a shot at advancing in the post season.....let alone making the post season.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
@Todem
"I am firmly behind Tua now.....I have seen enough this season to know he is our guy. Just keep him healthy!! He has turned a corner. And this team plays for him. Yes he still has some shortcomings and needs to keep working hard.....but he has shown a lot this season thus far. And boy it helps when you have Hill and Waddle. They are fun to watch."
-Let it be noted, date and time stamped so there is no going back to the Dark Side.
-I never thought I would be reading this from you.
-I've been pretty quiet and reserved in making any proclamations about Tua
Hand me back that red lightsaber I loaned you and take this blue one so you can join your Jedi friends in the shipping container
"I am firmly behind Tua now.....I have seen enough this season to know he is our guy. Just keep him healthy!! He has turned a corner. And this team plays for him. Yes he still has some shortcomings and needs to keep working hard.....but he has shown a lot this season thus far. And boy it helps when you have Hill and Waddle. They are fun to watch."
-Let it be noted, date and time stamped so there is no going back to the Dark Side.
-I never thought I would be reading this from you.
-I've been pretty quiet and reserved in making any proclamations about Tua
Hand me back that red lightsaber I loaned you and take this blue one so you can join your Jedi friends in the shipping container
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
THIS THIS THIS
THIS THIS THIS
THIS THIS THIS
We need a Thurman Thomas level RB which is what i see him as if he were given the opp to see a lot of touches and I think easing Mostert's load so we have him for the Playoffs would be wise.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
In 27 games with the Kansas City Chiefs...
Hunt produced almost 3,000 total yds rushing and receiving and had 25 TDs including almost 80 receptions
He was insanely productive
I don't recall him sustaining a major injury like an ACL tear or achilles tear but I could be wrong.
We all know he was caught on video misbehaving(it's worse than that) and he was never allowed to be a starter again
1,145 and 11 part time one season in Cleveland and then up and down the other 2 years. Chub is a stud and he needs his own team
Hunt produced almost 3,000 total yds rushing and receiving and had 25 TDs including almost 80 receptions
He was insanely productive
I don't recall him sustaining a major injury like an ACL tear or achilles tear but I could be wrong.
We all know he was caught on video misbehaving(it's worse than that) and he was never allowed to be a starter again
1,145 and 11 part time one season in Cleveland and then up and down the other 2 years. Chub is a stud and he needs his own team
Gatorman
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I'm a huge believer in this coach, but penalties always bother me, bc they are always related to coaching. tony sporano was a decent coach (and a good man) and more importantly his teams were the least penalized. Same with Shula (but I think the refs were afraid of the Don). Mike M needs to tighten the dumb stuff up.
Tua upright is the best QB we've had since Marino, and Likely #3 all time for Miami if he keeps this up. It's nice to see the Bills with one loss knowing we gave it to them.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
got duped.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Billy Jackson III-Commanders DB, originally drafted by Cinci in 2016
-He's requested a trade
-$5M salary in '22, Eric Rowe a healthy scratch this past week is costing Miami $5M and is owed maybe $500k if they just cut him.
Sidney Jones IV-Seattle DB, Seattle doesn't use him, on 1 yr $3.5M deal and it's halfway thru the season, not a lot of money involved. Think Nickelback here for Needham
Johnathan Abraham-LVRaiders Safety, We need a safety and the cold reality of their '22 season hit them like a freight train in New Orleans this past weekend. This guy can be a hot head and also can daw a few dumb penalties but he's a thumper and would have Holland to team up with for the Playoff run, I like it and it would make sense for this team. Last year of his rookie deal and Raiders have made all the moves to indicate he isn't likely being brought back or beyond his rookie deal.
These 3 names plus Kareem hunt should be the ones they are investigating along with 8-10 other teams wanting to make their playoff push.
-He's requested a trade
-$5M salary in '22, Eric Rowe a healthy scratch this past week is costing Miami $5M and is owed maybe $500k if they just cut him.
Sidney Jones IV-Seattle DB, Seattle doesn't use him, on 1 yr $3.5M deal and it's halfway thru the season, not a lot of money involved. Think Nickelback here for Needham
Johnathan Abraham-LVRaiders Safety, We need a safety and the cold reality of their '22 season hit them like a freight train in New Orleans this past weekend. This guy can be a hot head and also can daw a few dumb penalties but he's a thumper and would have Holland to team up with for the Playoff run, I like it and it would make sense for this team. Last year of his rookie deal and Raiders have made all the moves to indicate he isn't likely being brought back or beyond his rookie deal.
These 3 names plus Kareem hunt should be the ones they are investigating along with 8-10 other teams wanting to make their playoff push.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
got duped.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'd like to point out when the team was healthy at the start of the season, they were the least penalized until Tua was not there under Center. Lately that has changed or gotten a lot worse, hoping they trend back in the opposite direction where they started.
This defense has a lot of warts right now.
Ogbah missed the Steelers game but had his lowest snap count of the season. Linebackers, Pass rush, Secondary gaffes, they can point the finger in any direction because this is a group effort to be this bad.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Miami is "married to the DL thru 2023 season" according to Barry Jackson so the only flex they have is at LB and DB/S
Sieler Ogbah, Wilkins, Davis-NT, that's the bulk of the DL
Sieler Ogbah, Wilkins, Davis-NT, that's the bulk of the DL
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Well I hope you're happy. Now Aubrey Pleasant can't send his kids to private school because our DBs couldn't jam Hill/Waddle at the line.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Hunt price tag is a 4th according to rumors, let's assume a 3rd is what they really want and are holding out until tomorrow morning to see if they can start a bidding war.
-Cleveland is $34M OTC and Miami hovers between $6M-$7M and they have some guys that could come off the books. It's possible they see a way for both sides to trade some talent that might be leaving and clear some cap space in the process.
I don't see Miami parting with SF 1st Rd pick just yet, they'll need it to try and maneuver in the Draft in April. And we're down a 3rd I think as well, maybe that is in '24.
-Cleveland is $34M OTC and Miami hovers between $6M-$7M and they have some guys that could come off the books. It's possible they see a way for both sides to trade some talent that might be leaving and clear some cap space in the process.
I don't see Miami parting with SF 1st Rd pick just yet, they'll need it to try and maneuver in the Draft in April. And we're down a 3rd I think as well, maybe that is in '24.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
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-Miami is the best on 3rd and long in the NFL
-69/960...Hill is on pace for about 150 catches and 2,000 yds receiving, ridiculous.
-Waddle is on pace for 85/1,500/10TDs
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Cold takes about Hill going to regret the move to Miami being unearthed everywhere. Including Pete Prisco who taped a mea culpa
TripleThreat
Footballguy
MCL for Liam Eichenburg per Tom Pelissero.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Hunt and Chubb sound sexy and all, but I would prefer to see us grab an OL can can start. Shell looked good but it was one game and we could upgrade at guard. I have heard talk about a guy in Carolina named Mouton and Denver has a guard as well as Atlanta that could be in play. We need to protect our franchise. When Tua has time he is as deadly as anyone in the NFL. We can also improve the run game with some upgrades there.
Liam seems overmatched and takes way too many penalties aside from the fact that he is out for a bit. AJ looks like a mediocre backup who may not even play again this year if he isn't activated this week. Armstread is great but misses games every year. It wont make the splash everyone wants, but I think that's our most pressing need...still.
Liam seems overmatched and takes way too many penalties aside from the fact that he is out for a bit. AJ looks like a mediocre backup who may not even play again this year if he isn't activated this week. Armstread is great but misses games every year. It wont make the splash everyone wants, but I think that's our most pressing need...still.
Todem
Footballguy
I don’t disagree with this....but a chance to grab Hunt to me will make a big difference in this offense too. We have not had a dynamic back since Ricky Williams. This will really give us a great 1-2 punch of Hunt and Mostert.
If a legit tackle or guard could be had.....I am all for it too. I just don’t think they are out there for us. We gotta draft draft draft in that department and hit on a few.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
I hear you. I also think that signing and paying RBs big contracts almost never works out. They take too much of a beating early in their careers and by the time they get their new contract, their bodies are starting to break down. LeVeon, Gurley, Zeke come to mind. Even Melvin Gordon and Davonta Freeman to an extent. I cannot think of too many that worked out in the past decade or so on their second deals. Granted, Hunt has not had his body abused as much as those guys did, but I kind of like the idea of drafting one and getting 4-5 relatively inexpensive years out of them and letting another team pay them their next salary.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I think that's better news than gone for the year, we might have him back healthy by the Playoffs and it gives him time to look at things without being immediately in the trenches, could be a plus for him.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Brandon Shell has been our RT now for several games i guess, didn't know that. Tua's blind side you know.
Austin Jackson was rolled up on from behind, I watched a few times. I barely understood why he needed to go on IR for a month but he hasn't returned. This guy is useless and we're 5-3, he is in no way contributing to that. Trade him now for a 3rd-4th-5th whatever but get him out of here, he's taking up space.
I would like to see Miami go out and trade for an OL that could help us.
Austin Jackson was rolled up on from behind, I watched a few times. I barely understood why he needed to go on IR for a month but he hasn't returned. This guy is useless and we're 5-3, he is in no way contributing to that. Trade him now for a 3rd-4th-5th whatever but get him out of here, he's taking up space.
I would like to see Miami go out and trade for an OL that could help us.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Terron Armstead 10th/79-PFF
Robert Hunt 9th/79 PFF
Connor Williams 2nd/38th
That's 3 out of 5, that's pretty strong. Williams is directly related to this coaching staff and Mike McDaniel believing they could turn him into a starter at Center, he's been a lot more than just a. starter, he's having the best season of anyone at the position since Pouncey and before that Tim Ruddy.
Robert Hunt 9th/79 PFF
Connor Williams 2nd/38th
That's 3 out of 5, that's pretty strong. Williams is directly related to this coaching staff and Mike McDaniel believing they could turn him into a starter at Center, he's been a lot more than just a. starter, he's having the best season of anyone at the position since Pouncey and before that Tim Ruddy.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I see @Gatorman not to be outdone by @Todem at proclaiming his rightful seat at the head of the Tua Club, already proclaiming 3rd best QB in Miami History
So along those lines, I'm making Connor Williams the 4th best Center we've ever had after HoF-Dwight Stephenson and Tim Ruddy, Pouncey has more Pro Bowls, I never liked Mike.
It's an easy slide after that for No 4 all time for me.
Hill and Waddle blow away Duper and Clayton, yes/no? Uh oh, sacred ground we're starting to step on here.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
As long as we’re recalling old heads I sure do miss Reggie Roby and his CasioI see @Gatorman not to be outdone by @Todem at proclaiming his rightful seat at the head of the Tua Club, already proclaiming 3rd best QB in Miami History
So along those lines, I'm making Connor Williams the 4th best Center we've ever had after HoF-Dwight Stephenson and Tim Ruddy, Pouncey has more Pro Bowls, I never liked Mike.
It's an easy slide after that for No 4 all time for me.
Hill and Waddle blow away Duper and Clayton, yes/no? Uh oh, sacred ground we're starting to step on here.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
also gotta take into account the fact that MMcD comes from a system that makes late rounders and undrafted guys look really stinking good
Todem
Footballguy
Not so fast….longevity needs to happen!!!I see @Gatorman not to be outdone by @Todem at proclaiming his rightful seat at the head of the Tua Club, already proclaiming 3rd best QB in Miami History
So along those lines, I'm making Connor Williams the 4th best Center we've ever had after HoF-Dwight Stephenson and Tim Ruddy, Pouncey has more Pro Bowls, I never liked Mike.
It's an easy slide after that for No 4 all time for me.
Hill and Waddle blow away Duper and Clayton, yes/no? Uh oh, sacred ground we're starting to step on here.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Excellent thoughts, would love to see them upgrade with 1 more strong OL but they are getting quality starts 3 of the 5 positions
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Take a lot of pressure off Tua and as the weather changes, what happens when we hit the road in the WIldcard trying to win @ Balt or Cinci or even KC might be playing with Buffalo looking like a strong No 1 seed. We need to be a team that can generate 125-150 yds rushing when we need to.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I see a few problems with making a big trade for Miami:
- Already missing draft capital from the tampering/tanking allegations
- One big hit to Tua and this team is massively worse
- Miami doesn't become a clear contender with Bradley Chubb or Kareem Hunt. Not even the division favorite.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Well, Chubb (the LB, not the RB) would make our non existent pass rush better: Miami brings pressure having 2 of the best rushing safeties and one of the best rushing middle linebackers in the game. The problem is we do not have the corners at this moment to run cover zero. We need to be a 3/4 or 4/3 for the time being until we get healthy in the defensive backfield. For that we need another pass rusher. RB is not a need, as Mosert is the man, and if "drive killer" doesn't pan out then we have other decent options at RB. Corners we certainly can use and as for O line help, well I think we address that (again) in the draft.
As for the 1st round compensation: Chubb was a high first rounder who has played up to his draft pedigree. He can rush the passer well, and the only downside to getting him is the cap hit on his extension. Considering where our cap savings will be coming from next year (Bye to Gesecki, Jones, Rowe, and some other cap monsters) we can fit him under the cap and go from there.]
The one thing this rash of injuries at CB has done has given us the ability to really develop some young guys at CB. There are 4 guys that can flat out ball there to man the other side of X, and that is without taking Needham into account.
As for the 1st round compensation: Chubb was a high first rounder who has played up to his draft pedigree. He can rush the passer well, and the only downside to getting him is the cap hit on his extension. Considering where our cap savings will be coming from next year (Bye to Gesecki, Jones, Rowe, and some other cap monsters) we can fit him under the cap and go from there.]
The one thing this rash of injuries at CB has done has given us the ability to really develop some young guys at CB. There are 4 guys that can flat out ball there to man the other side of X, and that is without taking Needham into account.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not worried about the cap. If there is one thing Ross has been good at as an owner, it is sinking his own cash into the bonuses to manage the cap.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
This. Never hesitates to open the check book, including self funding improving the stadium with that glorious canopy.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Here are the biggest contracts we have on the books heading into 2023, not much we can do about all these.
Tyreek Hill $31M cap hit
T. Armstead $20M
Byron Jones $19M
E. Ogbah $17M
And Miami at present is only about $10M UTC when they get to the '23 off Season in Feb/Mar, not trying to paint any doom n gloom, just reporting the facts.
A couple of folks said "We aren't winning the Super Bowl" this year and that's probably right but the parity is ripe around the league, you are going to have to go thru Buffalo and KC but we have one of the few explosive teams that can do crazy things when pushed to their limits.
I would not want to put all my eggs in the Mostert basket, Miami would be wise to just let Edmonds go, sunken cost, nothing to release him in Jan/Feb anyways, would like to see someone better team up with Raheem and lighten his load, increase our chance in cold weather to run the football...think January Playoffs
I don't want to trade our 1st for Chubb and I'm sure that's just the start of things, would rather Miami passed on him and look for LB/DBs, someone in the media, Barry Jackson i think it was said they can't really do anything on the DL and have to commit money to Wilkins very soon.
Cheers
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
For those who have not experienced this canopy...it's not like it spits out cold air or provides a light breeze. It's still insanely hot, especially up there because a lot of the hot air is trapped inside, only thing it does is provide a little shade from the sun but it's not in any way a comfy relief to be in the upper deck.
The canopy stadium is our 12th man in September. Ask the Bills. It's beautiful from the turnpike, especially at night. I wouldn't change a thing.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
On a hot AF day just being out of the sun is glorious...
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Wise with his history ... (ETA notable he's a UFA after this season)
Have y'all watched his interview on Pivot? Channing Crowder, Fred Taylor and Ryan Clark's deal.
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TripleThreat
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Only Chase is under contract after this season.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
42 carries for 120 yds 2.9 yds per attempt and 10/96/Td catching, wish he could get more involved in the passing game as the 3rd or 4th guy.
Mostert 100 carries for 450 yds, workmanlike each and every week but not a lot of chunk plays. Think Edmonds was supposed to be a guy that could see 5-10 touches a gem and make some razzle dazzle but that has not happened at all and it seems he doesn't pick up the play book well. Mostert is pretty good at pass protection as the cherry on top as to why he gets all the snaps or the lion's share.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
CB William Jackson III is expected to be released, plays man. His salary and back injury are trade prohibitive... wouldn't surprise me if he gets released and his back immediately gets better.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
per sportrac. https://www.spotrac.com/spots/early-nfl-trade-candidates-1622/
The Commanders take on dead cap hits of $10.8M in 2022 ($3M saved), & $9M in 2023 ($6.75M saved). New team acquires cap & cash hits of $3M for 2022, $12.75M for 2023 ($2.5M roster bonus due March 17th).
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Eichenberg placed on Injured Reserve
Austin Jackson activated from Injured Reserve, likely can roll to his old spot at LG if they want him to alongside Armstead and he can learn how to play OL. As I recall he wasn't bad as a LG, just terrible at LT.
Austin Jackson activated from Injured Reserve, likely can roll to his old spot at LG if they want him to alongside Armstead and he can learn how to play OL. As I recall he wasn't bad as a LG, just terrible at LT.
TripleThreat
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