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5 ROUND MOCK DRAFT W/ COMP PICKS (1 Viewer)
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Kleck.
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#48 Cincinnati, Robert McCune, LB, Louisville
At #17 Cincy took Shaun Cody to help out on the run defense. With this pick Cincy will take another smash mouth player in McCune. Listed as a ILB or MLB, but has 4.5 speed and can cover most of the field. Will probably drop a bit because of his height (5'11"), but has all the other skills needed to be a solid starter in the NFL. I've seen him going anywhere from early/mid 2nd to mid/late 3rd so this could be a reach according to some. Quite a few LB's have already gone and Cincy could use some help there so I'll take one now before the pickings get too slim.
At #17 Cincy took Shaun Cody to help out on the run defense. With this pick Cincy will take another smash mouth player in McCune. Listed as a ILB or MLB, but has 4.5 speed and can cover most of the field. Will probably drop a bit because of his height (5'11"), but has all the other skills needed to be a solid starter in the NFL. I've seen him going anywhere from early/mid 2nd to mid/late 3rd so this could be a reach according to some. Quite a few LB's have already gone and Cincy could use some help there so I'll take one now before the pickings get too slim.
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With the 49th overall Pick the Vikings take: Mike Nugent K Ohio St
Mike Tice quote as saying "As much as we pride or selfs on not picking up kickers in the early rounds. We can not ingore the fact that with real kicker he might have won 2 or 3 more games. "
Strengths: Very experienced having started four seasons for the Buckeyes...Has a strong leg for attempts 50+ yards and beyond...Has the nerves to make big, clutch kicks...Consistent and will go on long streaks without missing...Can also kickoff.
Weaknesses: Doesn't have great size but there have been many kickers with slight frames...Can still fine tune and improve his mechanics and technique.
Elite kicking prospect with day one potential...Actually a better prospect than Nate Kaeding, who was an early 3rd round pick in 2004...Was amazing as a senior and really improved his draft stock.
My take is: I too hate to take Nugent at 49. But I have Kicker as the Vikings Number one need! Plus Nugent will not be there at 80. This will give the Vikings a kicking game that is solid. And open a roster spot because they will not carry 2 kickers one for kickoffs and one for place kicking.
We are now expecting all offers for O. Smith, Cambell, K. Mixon and M. Robinson.
Mike Tice quote as saying "As much as we pride or selfs on not picking up kickers in the early rounds. We can not ingore the fact that with real kicker he might have won 2 or 3 more games. "
Strengths: Very experienced having started four seasons for the Buckeyes...Has a strong leg for attempts 50+ yards and beyond...Has the nerves to make big, clutch kicks...Consistent and will go on long streaks without missing...Can also kickoff.
Weaknesses: Doesn't have great size but there have been many kickers with slight frames...Can still fine tune and improve his mechanics and technique.
Elite kicking prospect with day one potential...Actually a better prospect than Nate Kaeding, who was an early 3rd round pick in 2004...Was amazing as a senior and really improved his draft stock.
My take is: I too hate to take Nugent at 49. But I have Kicker as the Vikings Number one need! Plus Nugent will not be there at 80. This will give the Vikings a kicking game that is solid. And open a roster spot because they will not carry 2 kickers one for kickoffs and one for place kicking.
We are now expecting all offers for O. Smith, Cambell, K. Mixon and M. Robinson.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
STL is here and will have their pick in shortly
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
At 2.18 (#50 Overall) The St. Louis Rams select Fabian Washington CB Nebraska
Couldnt believe he slipped to us....this is one our biggest areas of need, as Travis Fisher & Jeremetrius Butler were not world-beaters last year, to say the least. We like Butler as the #2, and this allows us to move Fisher to NB.
Look at some of Washington's combine stats
5'11 (good size)
4.29 in the 40 (best among CBs, 2nd best in the entire NFL Draft)
2.41 in the 20 (best among CB's)
41 1/2 Vertical (Tied for 4th among CBs)
25 WOnderlic (Tied for 4th among CB's)
10'9 Broad Jump (Tied for 4th among CB's)
Needless to say STL just got a steal.
Couldnt believe he slipped to us....this is one our biggest areas of need, as Travis Fisher & Jeremetrius Butler were not world-beaters last year, to say the least. We like Butler as the #2, and this allows us to move Fisher to NB.
Look at some of Washington's combine stats
5'11 (good size)
4.29 in the 40 (best among CBs, 2nd best in the entire NFL Draft)
2.41 in the 20 (best among CB's)
41 1/2 Vertical (Tied for 4th among CBs)
25 WOnderlic (Tied for 4th among CB's)
10'9 Broad Jump (Tied for 4th among CB's)
Needless to say STL just got a steal.
Kleck.
Footballguy
5th round would be the steal of all steals. I've seen him go early/mid 2nd and sometimes late 3rd depending on what draft site it is. Some love him and others don't seem to have paid enough attention to him. His biggest weakness is his 5'11" height. Other than that he is well built and very strong (34 reps), has 4.5 speed and can cover most of the field, is quick to make tackles and great at run coverage, and just plays tough and hits hard. If he were 2 inches taller, He'd be a top 5 LB IMO.
Kleck.
Footballguy
It was a bit of a reach for me to take him at #48, I won't argue that. The age is an issue and he's just not getting the hype that some others are by draft gurus. I'll be keeping a close eye on him as well and would love to see Green Bay take a chance on him with one of their two 2nd rounders. I think he has the talent though and there were already 7 LB's gone at that spot (which is more than I think will be gone by #48) and I also just wanted to grab one before too many were off the board by Cincy's next pick. I had an offer to trade down, but I was away all morning and didn't want to hold the draft up more than what I had already.
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Diablo
Footballguy
Green Bay has options and need here at this pick. A few of the things we are taking into consideration are as follows:
1. Farve is on a year to year basis. He has come back this year but after this who knows.
2. We have needs at LB though I do consider them to soon be addressed by Anthony Simmons for this year which will fill gaps for now while we develop some young talent to be added. LB outside of MLB is not widely important in the new system so adding Simmons should be ok.
3. We need to address the DL a little further and was hoping a prospect or two would have fallen in this deep class but they did not. There are no DEs at this value and some later prospects that should committee well in pass rush situations when added.
4. Safety is a need but once again no one of good value here to take.
With all that said the Packers select the most athletic QB in the draft who will develop behind Farve and become the future and someone who can fill the stands for the next 10 yrs hopefully.
The Packers select Adrian McPherson, QB, FSU
1. Farve is on a year to year basis. He has come back this year but after this who knows.
2. We have needs at LB though I do consider them to soon be addressed by Anthony Simmons for this year which will fill gaps for now while we develop some young talent to be added. LB outside of MLB is not widely important in the new system so adding Simmons should be ok.
3. We need to address the DL a little further and was hoping a prospect or two would have fallen in this deep class but they did not. There are no DEs at this value and some later prospects that should committee well in pass rush situations when added.
4. Safety is a need but once again no one of good value here to take.
With all that said the Packers select the most athletic QB in the draft who will develop behind Farve and become the future and someone who can fill the stands for the next 10 yrs hopefully.
The Packers select Adrian McPherson, QB, FSU
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2.20 (52) Brandon Browner DC 6'3" 221 Oregon State
I'm going with need here, I thought Browner would actually go in the early part of the 2nd, and Washington or Webster would be my pick here. I don't mind too much as I'm getting the potential for a true shut-down corner with massive size. In the AFC South, he should be able to match up well with Andre Johnson, Drew Bennett, and Wayne right out of the gate. Compares favorably to other large CB's like Bobby Taylor. Scouted as possibly moving to safety, which he very well might be our SS after some development time.
Other spots I was looking at here were filling my need for OT and depth at OLB. The value is still not there at OT, as I've got my eye on a few guys that should fall into the 3rd/4th range. OLB is only a need for depth, so DE is a need position, but has been thoroughly picked over thus far, and I just can't justify the big gap in ability between the DE's that are left and starter-level players that I can use.
Note:
Jacksonville is possibly shopping D. Darius for the next few picks. It might take a bit more than a late 2nd rounder, but not much (like a trade up a few spots in later rounds). PM me.
I'm going with need here, I thought Browner would actually go in the early part of the 2nd, and Washington or Webster would be my pick here. I don't mind too much as I'm getting the potential for a true shut-down corner with massive size. In the AFC South, he should be able to match up well with Andre Johnson, Drew Bennett, and Wayne right out of the gate. Compares favorably to other large CB's like Bobby Taylor. Scouted as possibly moving to safety, which he very well might be our SS after some development time.
Other spots I was looking at here were filling my need for OT and depth at OLB. The value is still not there at OT, as I've got my eye on a few guys that should fall into the 3rd/4th range. OLB is only a need for depth, so DE is a need position, but has been thoroughly picked over thus far, and I just can't justify the big gap in ability between the DE's that are left and starter-level players that I can use.
Note:
Jacksonville is possibly shopping D. Darius for the next few picks. It might take a bit more than a late 2nd rounder, but not much (like a trade up a few spots in later rounds). PM me.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Casey Rabach is gone and the top center is an excellent choice right here. The Baltimore Ravens select:
Chris Spencer, Center, Ole Miss
Strengths: Has good size...A very good athlete...Excellent quickness...Is extremely strong...Versatile and has experience at both guard spots as well as center...Smart and makes all the line calls...Still improving and has a lot of upside.
Weaknesses: Doesn't have a ton of starting experience...Has only played center for one full season with the Rebels...Will need to coaching and development to work on mastering the nuances of the position.
Notes: Was a top prospect coming out of the prep ranks...Should rank among the top centers available due to his size, athleticism and potential.
Chris Spencer, Center, Ole Miss
Strengths: Has good size...A very good athlete...Excellent quickness...Is extremely strong...Versatile and has experience at both guard spots as well as center...Smart and makes all the line calls...Still improving and has a lot of upside.
Weaknesses: Doesn't have a ton of starting experience...Has only played center for one full season with the Rebels...Will need to coaching and development to work on mastering the nuances of the position.
Notes: Was a top prospect coming out of the prep ranks...Should rank among the top centers available due to his size, athleticism and potential.
This is jgb95 Mock Draft. But yet to see him today and well over 2 hour threshold for this pick.
Seattle Picks Eric Green CB VT
Strengths: Great natural athletic ability...Good speed with a burst...Has a lot of experience...Has some playmaking ability in terms of interceptions...Should be an good fit in just about any defensive scheme.
Weaknesses: Not very physical...Needs to work on his technique and takes a lot of bad angles...Tore his ACL in 2002 so durability may be a concern...There may be some concern about his attitude and character.
Notes: Has the physical tools you look for and most of his weaknesses can be corrected...May get a look earlier than you would expect due to his athleticism and measurables.
Seen him ranked anywhere from the 6th best corner to the 10th. I also seen him in the top 50 prospects list. So at 54 with no Ken lucas he makes perfect sense.
55 Buffalo Aaron Rudnicki
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Seattle Picks Eric Green CB VT
Strengths: Great natural athletic ability...Good speed with a burst...Has a lot of experience...Has some playmaking ability in terms of interceptions...Should be an good fit in just about any defensive scheme.
Weaknesses: Not very physical...Needs to work on his technique and takes a lot of bad angles...Tore his ACL in 2002 so durability may be a concern...There may be some concern about his attitude and character.
Notes: Has the physical tools you look for and most of his weaknesses can be corrected...May get a look earlier than you would expect due to his athleticism and measurables.
Seen him ranked anywhere from the 6th best corner to the 10th. I also seen him in the top 50 prospects list. So at 54 with no Ken lucas he makes perfect sense.
55 Buffalo Aaron Rudnicki
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Buffalo Bills select CJ Mosley, DT, Missouri
With the loss of Pat Williams to the Vikings, and the advancing age of Sam Adams, DT is a clear need for this team. They are high on their 3rd round pick from last year, Tim Anderson, and Ron Edwards has shown flashes of dominance when given an opportunity. But, Mosley has the potential to be better than either of thos guys. He's got a combination of size, strength, and quickness that NFL teams look for, and he dominated against strong competition the past couple years. He should be able to contribute as part of the DT rotation right away and compete for a starting spot in 2006, if not earlier.
With the loss of Pat Williams to the Vikings, and the advancing age of Sam Adams, DT is a clear need for this team. They are high on their 3rd round pick from last year, Tim Anderson, and Ron Edwards has shown flashes of dominance when given an opportunity. But, Mosley has the potential to be better than either of thos guys. He's got a combination of size, strength, and quickness that NFL teams look for, and he dominated against strong competition the past couple years. He should be able to contribute as part of the DT rotation right away and compete for a starting spot in 2006, if not earlier.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Seahawks here.Sorry about the delay. Am I allowed to take Ciatrick Fason, RB, instead of the pick given to me by some random guy?
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I vote Alex Smith TE STAN I do not see this as reach. He his 2nd round prospect and we are in the middle - late part of the 2nd round.Strengths: Has good size and a big frame...Is very smart and has all the intangibles...Is a good athlete...Solid route runner...A playmaker in the passing game...Has excellent hands and can make the difficult catch...Still improving and getting better. Weaknesses: Not a dominating blocker and needs to get stronger...Has only average speed and isn't very quick...May not be able to get as open downfield in the pros as he has been able to at the college level...Does everything well but nothing great. Notes: Really came on as a senior after Brett Pierce moved on...Brings intriguing size, athleticism and hands to the table and should be one of the top rated tight ends in the draft.
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beef
Footballguy
1. It throws a little twist into this draft and for other teams that may be in need of a RB.2. Bell, Griffin, Dayne, and the injured pot smoking Anderson are not exactly what I call a deep RB group. And shanny will have to take a RB somewhere.
3. Arrington will be a great 3rd down and receiving back for them.
4. I'm still not 100% sold on Tatum Bell being a stud.
5. It would raise all kinds of hell in fantasy discussion throughout the whole year.
Good deal. I definitely like the 3rd down / pass catching idea. I can definitely see that as something panning out. I'll still be shocked if the Broncos go RB before 4th round. But, nuttty things happen. Personally I think all our mocks are way off, and you'll see an alarming # of DE's and NT's go in the first 15 picks.
I concur. Their pursuit of Jeb Putzier shows they are interested in upgrading the position, Alex Smith IMO would be their likely selection if he's around at this point.
Diablo
Footballguy
Currently, Green Bay still has some needs of which DE, LB and Safety are most important.With new QB in the fold the Packers need another weapon on defense yet won't be reaching for a DE here as there isn't a prospect that sticks out ahead of the others. With that said, Anthony Simmons probably ends up signing sooner rather than later as soon as he accepts that he isn't getting a big payday. This means the Pack is looking for a solid SS that can get in the box and tackle or has game speed enough to fall back in coverage.
The Packers select Ernest Shazor, S, Michigan
The Falcons are still looking for that TOP receiver to partner with Mike Vick. They have Peerless Price who has been a dissapointment and Michael Jenkins who developed slowly.
I am adding Chris Henry WR West Virginia
Report is that he could have a potential attitude problem but Atlanta can afford to throw a dart here.
I would have looked for OLine help but none of my 1st round rated guys dropped.
I am adding Chris Henry WR West Virginia
Report is that he could have a potential attitude problem but Atlanta can afford to throw a dart here.
I would have looked for OLine help but none of my 1st round rated guys dropped.
ColtsFreak
Footballguy
Indianapolis is estatic to draft Marion Barber III
Many consider him the 4th best RB in the draft and after trading Edge away he could become the starter this year if he performs well in Training camp!
Many consider him the 4th best RB in the draft and after trading Edge away he could become the starter this year if he performs well in Training camp!
ColtsFreak
Footballguy
And a 4th for good measure!
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Gotta mix it up again.
I looked hard at two guys I feel represent tremendous value here in Bryant McFadden and Mike Patterson, both of whom may be late first-early second round talents, but in the end, I had to go with upside and a position that will be the biggest need shortly.
Chris Canty, DE Virginia
Patterson has the better pedigree, but is projected as a one-gap tackle, while the Steelers are going to have a need for a DE shortly. Kimo von Oelhoffen is still solid, but isn't likely to play more than another year or two, and Canty is a great fit here. The Steelers like tall, athletic DEs who can play the run, and at 6' 7", the big man certainly fits the former portion of the profile. He is projected by some as potentially the top run-stuffing DE in this draft - he is a sure tackler when he stays low, has a great nose for the ball carrier, and great athleticism. Where he needs some help is in pass rushing, but the Steelers generate a large portion of their pass rush from the OLB spots, so this isn't as crucial here as it would be with some other teams. Canty will have the luxury of spending a year behind von Oelhoffen learning the NFL game, and could form a formidable front three with Aaron Smith and Casey Hampton going forward. The major concern with Canty is his rawness and injuries. He suffered a season-ending knee injury in the fourth game of the season, but is expected to be ready for training camp. He also suffered an eye injury when he was hit with a bottle in a Scottsdale nightclub a few months ago, but this injury is not serious. My main hope is that he can be coached. he needs to learn better technique, particularly in the pass rush, in order to realize his enormous talent. He needs to be coached out of making arm tackles and must develop more moves to get around large tackles to get into the backfield. A year of coaching would do him a world of good, and at his size (6 '7" and will play around 290-300) - he could potentially be a gem.
I looked hard at two guys I feel represent tremendous value here in Bryant McFadden and Mike Patterson, both of whom may be late first-early second round talents, but in the end, I had to go with upside and a position that will be the biggest need shortly.
Chris Canty, DE Virginia
Patterson has the better pedigree, but is projected as a one-gap tackle, while the Steelers are going to have a need for a DE shortly. Kimo von Oelhoffen is still solid, but isn't likely to play more than another year or two, and Canty is a great fit here. The Steelers like tall, athletic DEs who can play the run, and at 6' 7", the big man certainly fits the former portion of the profile. He is projected by some as potentially the top run-stuffing DE in this draft - he is a sure tackler when he stays low, has a great nose for the ball carrier, and great athleticism. Where he needs some help is in pass rushing, but the Steelers generate a large portion of their pass rush from the OLB spots, so this isn't as crucial here as it would be with some other teams. Canty will have the luxury of spending a year behind von Oelhoffen learning the NFL game, and could form a formidable front three with Aaron Smith and Casey Hampton going forward. The major concern with Canty is his rawness and injuries. He suffered a season-ending knee injury in the fourth game of the season, but is expected to be ready for training camp. He also suffered an eye injury when he was hit with a bottle in a Scottsdale nightclub a few months ago, but this injury is not serious. My main hope is that he can be coached. he needs to learn better technique, particularly in the pass rush, in order to realize his enormous talent. He needs to be coached out of making arm tackles and must develop more moves to get around large tackles to get into the backfield. A year of coaching would do him a world of good, and at his size (6 '7" and will play around 290-300) - he could potentially be a gem.
Chaos
Footballguy
PHI selects Mike Patterson, DT USC
DT is actually a need for the Eagles, especially if they are shopping Simon as is rumored. It is unlikely that he falls this far in the real draft but I'm happy to get him.
His only real knock is his size but in this defense he should thrive.
DT is actually a need for the Eagles, especially if they are shopping Simon as is rumored. It is unlikely that he falls this far in the real draft but I'm happy to get him.
His only real knock is his size but in this defense he should thrive.
jgb95
Footballguy
The New England Patriots select:
Bryant McFadden
Cornerback
Florida State
Senior
6'0 | 182 | 4.51*
HOME TOWN: Hollywood, FL
HIGH SCHOOL: McArthur
*unofficial 40 time, AP Photo
QUICK STRENGTHS: technique, athleticism, tackling
QUICK WEAKNESSES: pure speed, consistency
NFL COMPARISONS: Nice sized CB with good technique but is plagued by some inconsistency much like Buffalo's Nate Clements.
Bryant McFadden was widely regarded as the finest prep cornerback in the nation in 1999. He came in with a lot of hype, but redshirted his first season at Florida State. He saw the field as a nickel corner early on, but didn't really start to live up to expectations until his senior season when he finally got his chance to be a full time starter and he responded and garnered all conference honors.
McFadden has the tools to be a very good corner. He has decent size and speed numbers and has shown improvement over the course of his career. He isn't a big play corner who will make a lot of gamechanging, flashy plays, but he is very reliable and solid. His technique is very good, he shows fluidity in coming out of his backpedal and has good change of direction skills. His ability to plant and break on the ball is good. McFadden also shows good on-field awareness, he recognizes routes well and gets the jump on them. When the ball is the air, he shows good athletic ability and ball skills. He doesn't have top flight closing speed and acceleration, so he doesn't make a lot of big interceptions, but he is usually in good position and can make the grab when the ball is there. In run support, McFadden struggles a little more than in pass coverage. He doesn't support the run aggressively and doesn't show the strength to take on blockers and shed. McFadden is excellent in run support and has proven to be a good tackler. At times, he also seems a little too relaxed on the field, and doesn't always appear to be playing the game full throttle. He's had some minor injuries throughout his career, a back injury as a freshman and a groin injury as a junior, but overall, injuries aren't a huge concern.
Bryant McFadden
Cornerback
Florida State
Senior
6'0 | 182 | 4.51*
HOME TOWN: Hollywood, FL
HIGH SCHOOL: McArthur
*unofficial 40 time, AP Photo
QUICK STRENGTHS: technique, athleticism, tackling
QUICK WEAKNESSES: pure speed, consistency
NFL COMPARISONS: Nice sized CB with good technique but is plagued by some inconsistency much like Buffalo's Nate Clements.
Bryant McFadden was widely regarded as the finest prep cornerback in the nation in 1999. He came in with a lot of hype, but redshirted his first season at Florida State. He saw the field as a nickel corner early on, but didn't really start to live up to expectations until his senior season when he finally got his chance to be a full time starter and he responded and garnered all conference honors.
McFadden has the tools to be a very good corner. He has decent size and speed numbers and has shown improvement over the course of his career. He isn't a big play corner who will make a lot of gamechanging, flashy plays, but he is very reliable and solid. His technique is very good, he shows fluidity in coming out of his backpedal and has good change of direction skills. His ability to plant and break on the ball is good. McFadden also shows good on-field awareness, he recognizes routes well and gets the jump on them. When the ball is the air, he shows good athletic ability and ball skills. He doesn't have top flight closing speed and acceleration, so he doesn't make a lot of big interceptions, but he is usually in good position and can make the grab when the ball is there. In run support, McFadden struggles a little more than in pass coverage. He doesn't support the run aggressively and doesn't show the strength to take on blockers and shed. McFadden is excellent in run support and has proven to be a good tackler. At times, he also seems a little too relaxed on the field, and doesn't always appear to be playing the game full throttle. He's had some minor injuries throughout his career, a back injury as a freshman and a groin injury as a junior, but overall, injuries aren't a huge concern.
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