A 4th women sexually assualted by Roethlisberger? (1 Viewer)

[theglorydays]

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Posted by Mike Florio on April 16, 2010 9:03 AM ET The 572 pages of documents released on Thursday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation likely contain plenty of useless and irrelevant stuff. But, apparently, the materials contain some interesting information that could make things even more difficult for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Buried in an item in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution regarding the newly-available materials appears reference to an "unsubstantiated allegation" that a "drunken Roethlisberger" made an "unwanted advance" at another Milledgeville-area woman on an unspecified date during a party at Roethlisberger's house in the area.

Per the GBI information, Roethlisberger allegedly

and told the woman she could "do whatever she wants." A week later, he allegedly forced his hand up the same woman's skirt.The woman was able to get away, and her father advised her not to file a formal criminal complaint. (Her father also may have asked her why in the hell she went back to his house a week after he "showed her who he was.")

If this stuff keeps coming out, Ben is going to get the Pacman treatment. As you may recall, Mr. Jones' one-year suspension was based largely on a string of arrests and police incidents; despite a couple of eventual guilty pleas, he never once spent a night in jail.

 

[scratcher]

This is getting ridiculous

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Maybe Ben should change professions and become a Therapist

 

[5-ish Finkle]

FWIW, they flat out state that's an unsubstantiated allegation in that article.

That said, this is well beyond ridiculous even without it.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

seinfeld episode:

elaine: "and then he took it out"

jerry:"took what out?"

elaine: "it!"

jerry: 'it?'

elaine :' He took it out!'

 

[CrossEyed]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

 

[theglorydays]

FWIW, they flat out state that's an unsubstantiated allegation in that article.That said, this is well beyond ridiculous even without it.

He has now been accused of sexual assault by four different women. They haven't brought charges against him in any of the cases so i don't want to pass judgment, but you're right, this is beyond ridiculous at this point.

 

[Hang 10]

seinfeld episode:elaine: "and then he took it out"jerry:"took what out?"elaine: "it!"jerry: 'it?'elaine :' He took it out!'

Perfect reference here.

 

[yellowdog]

Lookin' like a FOOL with his pants on the ground.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

It is becoming apparent that Big Ben's off season workout program consists of hopping from bar to bar with nothing on but a double barrel beer helmet and a fanny pack full of roofies.

 

[beavers]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

Tiger was a rapist?

 

[The_Man]

If this stuff keeps coming out, Ben is going to get the Pacman treatment.

I've never heard it called that before, but I think that's exactly the treatment Ben's hoping to get when his stuff keeps coming out.

 

[CrossEyed]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

Tiger was a rapist?

Did I say, or even imply, that was the case?

 

[No Way Jose]

Is "pulling it out" a common practice? Obviously he has done this numerous times and it has worked. I've never found myself wanting to do this, but maybe I am missing something.

 

[gianmarco]

Is "pulling it out" a common practice? Obviously he has done this numerous times and it has worked. I've never found myself wanting to do this, but maybe I am missing something.

No Way Jose.

 

[beavers]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

Tiger was a rapist?

Did I say, or even imply, that was the case?

Just trying to figure out why Ben would be checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment center ...Rapist < > sex addict.Not one mistress of Tiger's claimed he raped them. In fact, they had nothing but positive things to say about Tiger. Ben on the other hand, forces himself onto women and it's more about asserting control and dominance vs. Tiger's addiction to sex.

 

[heidbrink]

drip, drip, drip. This is getting beyond ridiculous.

 

[Jeremy]

And before anyone says it, no this is not common practice for everyone, EVEN in our college days.

 

[beavers]

Is "pulling it out" a common practice? Obviously he has done this numerous times and it has worked. I've never found myself wanting to do this, but maybe I am missing something.

One would think even if he pulled out, there would be enough DNA to convict. I wonder why the DNA sample isn't talked about more ... I always thought DNA was identifiable DNA, no matter the size. I could be wrong, but I thought Cyril Wecht discussed this and stated he was puzzled by the statement that the DNA sample was too small.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

Tiger was a rapist?

Did I say, or even imply, that was the case?

When you say Ben is taking Tiger's bed soon...Tiger did a lot of things but I have to draw the line at anything remotely criminal, Tiger is a far cry from that. I's bad when Tiger looks like an angel standing next to Ben Roethisberger.

 

[Steeler]

This situation just keeps getting worse for the Steelers

 

[heidbrink]

If there is in fact anything to allegations 3 and 4 I don't see how the Steelers don't just cut Ben loose.

 

[ctdub]

Maybe Ben should change professions and become a Therapist

Yes. And he could be a football analyst on the weekends. What do you call yourself when you're both an analyst and a therapist?

 

[Workhorse]

If there is in fact anything to allegations 3 and 4 I don't see how the Steelers don't just cut Ben loose.

It's getting more difficult to defend this sociopath with every passing day unless you think there's a vast conspiracy out there among young women who he comes across.

 

[treat88]

If there is in fact anything to allegations 3 and 4 I don't see how the Steelers don't just cut Ben loose.

Don't think they can just cut him loose and take that kind of $$$ hit, but if further legitimate allegations continue to surface they have to part ways somehow.

 

[Reaper]

Is "pulling it out" a common practice? Obviously he has done this numerous times and it has worked. I've never found myself wanting to do this, but maybe I am missing something.

Yeah, like another 6 inches...

 

[werdnoynek]

 

[unckeyherb]

Is "pulling it out" a common practice? Obviously he has done this numerous times and it has worked. I've never found myself wanting to do this, but maybe I am missing something.

Yeah, like another 6 inches...

zing.

 

[CrossEyed]

When you see smoke pouring out of a building, the reasonable conclusion is that there is a fire. The smoke of Ben's actions and attitude have been billowing for quite a while. In the past it's primarily just been stories from people who have encountered him around town. OK, the guy's a jerk, most people can overlook that. But when it starts crossing over to him being, at the very least, a sexual predator, it confirms the previous accusations that Ben is a self-indulgent, immature punk who cares about nothing but himself. He's not the kind of guy that you want as the face of your franchise. It's highly unlikely that all of these women are falsely accusing him. I think you have to have this as a regular part of your behavior to have so many accusations come out.

The guy needs help. He should probably take a year off and go get his life straightened out. Football just isn't that important in the big scheme of things. Ben Roethlisberger, the person, needs help. He should go get it.

 

[Ghost of Bill Walsh]

The Steelers are talking to the Rams about the possibility of trading Big Ben to the Rams for the #1 pick in which the Steelers would take Sam Bradford. The Steelers are NOT going to continue putting up with Roethlisberger's shenanigans. Now would be the time to work out a deal for him. Not sure the Rams wanna take on Ben and his off field problems. The Steelers are truly in a quandry with Roethlisberger and they need to cut ties with him.

 

[gorf]

Is "pulling it out" a common practice? Obviously he has done this numerous times and it has worked. I've never found myself wanting to do this, but maybe I am missing something.

One would think even if he pulled out, there would be enough DNA to convict. I wonder why the DNA sample isn't talked about more ... I always thought DNA was identifiable DNA, no matter the size. I could be wrong, but I thought Cyril Wecht discussed this and stated he was puzzled by the statement that the DNA sample was too small.

you two are not talking about the same thing -- pulling it out (exposing himself) vs. pulling it out (before finishing)

 

[blend]

Maybe Ben should change professions and become a Therapist

Yes. And he could be a football analyst on the weekends. What do you call yourself when you're both an analyst and a therapist?

Awesome Arrested Development reference. well done.

 

[Comer]

The Steelers are talking to the Rams about the possibility of trading Big Ben to the Rams for the #1 pick in which the Steelers would take Sam Bradford. The Steelers are NOT going to continue putting up with Roethlisberger's shenanigans. Now would be the time to work out a deal for him. Not sure the Rams wanna take on Ben and his off field problems. The Steelers are truly in a quandry with Roethlisberger and they need to cut ties with him.

I would like to see a link on that. I would not be sure the Rams would do that.

 

[perry147]

No freaking way.

 

[heidbrink]

The Steelers are talking to the Rams about the possibility of trading Big Ben to the Rams for the #1 pick in which the Steelers would take Sam Bradford. The Steelers are NOT going to continue putting up with Roethlisberger's shenanigans. Now would be the time to work out a deal for him. Not sure the Rams wanna take on Ben and his off field problems. The Steelers are truly in a quandry with Roethlisberger and they need to cut ties with him.

I keep seeing this talk about swapping for the Rams 1.1. Serious question...Don't you think the Rams agree with you that Bradford is much preferable to Ben?I think there's a .000001 % chance or less that the Rams would trade out of 1.1. The talk around St Louis is abuzz with "best since Manning" etc. wrt Bradford. We are getting stoked about him as fans here.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

All I wanted was for no more ####### sexual misconduct rumors to start swirling until AFTER we ditched this clod. Jesus. He's got to be bordering on untradable by now. Please bite, Rams. Please?

 

[Arch Stanton]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

Tiger was a rapist?

Ben is?

 

[BigJim®]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

Tiger was a rapist?

Did I say, or even imply, that was the case?

When you say Ben is taking Tiger's bed soon...Tiger did a lot of things but I have to draw the line at anything remotely criminal, Tiger is a far cry from that. I's bad when Tiger looks like an angel standing next to Ben Roethisberger.

I think the OP was clearly implying Ben might be a sexual addict based on these repeated sexual occurences, and it was tongue in cheek at that. Personally I can't connect the dots to a suggestion only rapists go to a sexual addiction facility.

 

[Tom Vu]

Maybe Ben should change professions and become a Therapist

I laughed.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

Tiger was a rapist?

Ben is?

At this point, I have no problem saying, yes, he is. It's just a matter of how many times.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

Tiger was a rapist?

Ben is?

At this point, I have no problem saying, yes, he is. It's just a matter of how many times.

Would you mind pointing to some evidence of it?

 

[Fire the Fat Man]

If there is in fact anything to allegations 3 and 4 I don't see how the Steelers don't just cut Ben loose.

Don't think they can just cut him loose and take that kind of $$$ hit, but if further legitimate allegations continue to surface they have to part ways somehow.

There is no cap hit this season since there is no cap. Also, they would be able to go after a portion of his signing bonus.

 

[treat88]

The Steelers are talking to the Rams about the possibility of trading Big Ben to the Rams for the #1 pick in which the Steelers would take Sam Bradford. The Steelers are NOT going to continue putting up with Roethlisberger's shenanigans. Now would be the time to work out a deal for him. Not sure the Rams wanna take on Ben and his off field problems. The Steelers are truly in a quandry with Roethlisberger and they need to cut ties with him.

I keep seeing this talk about swapping for the Rams 1.1. Serious question...Don't you think the Rams agree with you that Bradford is much preferable to Ben?I think there's a .000001 % chance or less that the Rams would trade out of 1.1. The talk around St Louis is abuzz with "best since Manning" etc. wrt Bradford. We are getting stoked about him as fans here.

Agreed.Why would the Rams want Roeth at this point?

 

[BeTheMatch]

Countdown to Ben being checked into Tiger's old room at the sexual addiction treatment facility.

Tiger was a rapist?

Ben is?

At this point, I have no problem saying, yes, he is. It's just a matter of how many times.

Would you mind pointing to some evidence of it?

Luckily for Roethlisberger, there is no evidence that will hold up in a court of law. That doesn't mean it's not true. And this message board isn't a court of law. This many women aren't just all making it up. He's guilty. It's just a matter of how many times.

 

[CrossEyed]

The Steelers are talking to the Rams about the possibility of trading Big Ben to the Rams for the #1 pick in which the Steelers would take Sam Bradford. The Steelers are NOT going to continue putting up with Roethlisberger's shenanigans. Now would be the time to work out a deal for him. Not sure the Rams wanna take on Ben and his off field problems. The Steelers are truly in a quandry with Roethlisberger and they need to cut ties with him.

I keep seeing this talk about swapping for the Rams 1.1. Serious question...Don't you think the Rams agree with you that Bradford is much preferable to Ben?I think there's a .000001 % chance or less that the Rams would trade out of 1.1. The talk around St Louis is abuzz with "best since Manning" etc. wrt Bradford. We are getting stoked about him as fans here.

Agreed.Why would the Rams want Roeth at this point?

He's a proven NFL QB with 2 rings. They may feel he can be rehabilitated.

 

[Abrantes]

The Rams trade rumor seemed hilarious when I first heard about it. It's even funnier that it's being discussed. This trade would make absolutely no sense for the Rams given their present condition and Ben's current image, so it's hard for me to believe a shred of it.

Edit: I see I'm mostly echoing what's already been said.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Maybe Ben should change professions and become a Therapist

Yes. And he could be a football analyst on the weekends. What do you call yourself when you're both an analyst and a therapist?

Awesome Arrested Development reference. well done.

Was about to say the same thing.One question that should be asked is the degree to which the Steelers org knew this sort of behavior was going on. Obviously there is only so much that can be done in terms of keeping an eye on what your players are doing - they are entitled to their private lives. But the idea that this is a complete surprise to them is a bit hard to fathom at this point. Beyond just parting ways with him (should they choose to do that), the question has to be asked what concrete steps within the organization can be taken to prevent this sort of thing from happening again? Obviously I come at it from a different direction as a Bengals fan whose team got pummeled over and over again back in '06 (and is still living with that stigma) but the culture around my team has greatly improved, even when taking on supposed problem players (Benson, Tank, Frostee are three that come to mind - none of whom have had troubles coming in here). Anyhow, my ultimate point at the time ('06) was that this could happen to any team. The Steelers are showing the proof of that. But now they are stuck biting a bullet either way - they either eat millions of dollars and get nothing back or they tarnish their image more by keeping him.-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

The Rams trade rumor seemed hilarious when I first heard about it. It's even funnier that it's being discussed. This trade would make absolutely no sense for the Rams given their present condition and Ben's current image, so it's hard for me to believe a shred of it.Edit: I see I'm mostly echoing what's already been said.

But you put a special Rams fan spin on it -QG

 

[TommyGilmore]

Maybe Ben should change professions and become a Therapist

He already is.P.S. Might want to get your spacebar fixed.

 

[Jeremy]

The Steelers are talking to the Rams about the possibility of trading Big Ben to the Rams for the #1 pick in which the Steelers would take Sam Bradford. The Steelers are NOT going to continue putting up with Roethlisberger's shenanigans. Now would be the time to work out a deal for him. Not sure the Rams wanna take on Ben and his off field problems. The Steelers are truly in a quandry with Roethlisberger and they need to cut ties with him.

I keep seeing this talk about swapping for the Rams 1.1. Serious question...Don't you think the Rams agree with you that Bradford is much preferable to Ben?I think there's a .000001 % chance or less that the Rams would trade out of 1.1. The talk around St Louis is abuzz with "best since Manning" etc. wrt Bradford. We are getting stoked about him as fans here.

Agreed.Why would the Rams want Roeth at this point?

Well, if you can ignore all the baggage that comes with Ben, I think you'd prefer the proven commodity over an unknown rookie. Even top 10 drafted QBs bust a good percentage of the time. But of course, you can't ignore the baggage.